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Altair Taurus Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 32	Posted - 2015.12.30 21:32:33 - [1] - Quote I'd like to know if laptop with i5-5200U or i7-5500U microprocessor and 920M-940M range graphic card can run EVE Online flawlessly at high graphic settings?
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 3892	Posted - 2015.12.30 21:36:20 - [2] - Quote I wouldn't count on it. Oh god.
Altair Taurus Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 32	Posted - 2015.12.30 22:16:01 - [3] - Quote Well, I am not so desperate to purchase laptop for 1000 bucks to be able to play on-line game comfortably.
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 3892	Posted - 2015.12.30 22:28:49 - [4] - Quote It should run the game fine, but I have doubts about the 'flawlessly on high settings' part. Oh god.
Memphis Baas 880	Posted - 2015.12.30 22:45:38 - [5] - Quote Processor is good, video card is crap.
Pix Severus Mew Age Outpaws 1697	Posted - 2015.12.30 23:17:57 - [6] - Quote Laptops and gaming are never the perfect combination, I have found. Even if you do find one capable of running any game flawlessly, it'll probably be the size of a suitcase and run hotter than the sun. My lord.
Paranoid Loyd 7999	Posted - 2015.12.30 23:24:27 - [7] - Quote Pix Severus wrote: Laptops and gaming are never the perfect combination, I have found. Even if you do find one capable of running any game flawlessly, it'll probably be the size of a suitcase and run hotter than the sun. Let's not forget about the relative cost. "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata Fix the Prospect!
Ibutho Inkosi Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2015.12.30 23:36:07 - [8] - Quote Graphics cards that come with pre-built machines can usually show grandma's photos, or watch ball-breaking bike riders on YouTube, but as a rule aren't good enough to game with. It's advisable to always expect to replace that, and with it more than likely the power supply as well, if you plan to use a pre-built machine to game. Otherwise, expect to slog along as best you can. As long as the tale of the hunt is told by the hunter, and not the lion, it will favor the hunter.
Unsuccessful At Everything the troll bridge 23468	Posted - 2015.12.30 23:39:34 - [9] - Quote Define "flawlessly". *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Kinete Jenius Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 108	Posted - 2015.12.30 23:39:45 - [10] - Quote Altair Taurus wrote: I'd like to know if laptop with i5-5200U or i7-5500U microprocessor and 920M-940M range graphic card can run EVE Online flawlessly at high graphic settings? Eve really isn't that hard on graphics cards. My Dell 7520 has an i7 3612qm with a 7730m 2 GB graphics card. Runs eve at 1080p on highest settings with max AA at about 20 FPS when there's a heavy presence of ships and debris (Ice belt with a couple large fleets). Turn off AA and the fps jumps up to 30 FPS. The 920m lags a little behind the 7730m in performance so you will have to turn down some details for a smooth experience at 1080p. Don't listen to the epenis trolls. For whatever reason people get off on calling anything that isn't a GTX 980 crap. Ibutho Inkosi wrote: Graphics cards that come with pre-built machines can usually show grandma's photos, or watch ball-breaking bike riders on YouTube, but as a rule aren't good enough to game with. It's advisable to always expect to replace that, and with it more than likely the power supply as well, if you plan to use a pre-built machine to game. Otherwise, expect to slog along as best you can. He's quite obviously looking at a laptop which are always pre-built. Building your own laptop still uses prebuilt parts which severely limits your choices far more than a desktop.

Pix Severus Mew Age Outpaws 1699	Posted - 2015.12.31 01:00:16 - [11] - Quote Kinete Jenius wrote: Don't listen to the epenis trolls. For whatever reason people get off on calling anything that isn't a GTX 980 crap. I'm using a Radeon R9 270x, the game never drops below 60FPS at 1080p even when I'm running two EVE clients on both monitors. How's that for epeen? Calling laptop GPUs crap for gaming isn't trolling, its just stating the facts. My advice to anyone considering buying a laptop for gaming is to ask yourself "Do I really need the mobility of a laptop?" If the answer is no, be awesome, get a desktop. My lord.
Lykouleon Future Corps Sleeper Social Club 1685	Posted - 2015.12.31 01:25:22 - [12] - Quote Nothing will play anything flawlessly. Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 1072	Posted - 2015.12.31 01:38:35 - [13] - Quote Altair Taurus wrote: Well, I am not so desperate to purchase laptop for 1000 bucks to be able to play on-line game comfortably. In that case you'd better define "flawlessly" more accurately. Remove insurance.
Kinete Jenius Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 108	Posted - 2015.12.31 01:40:00 - [14] - Quote Pix Severus wrote: Kinete Jenius wrote: Don't listen to the epenis trolls. For whatever reason people get off on calling anything that isn't a GTX 980 crap. I'm using a Radeon R9 270x, the game never drops below 60FPS at 1080p even when I'm running two EVE clients on both monitors. How's that for epeen? Calling laptop GPUs crap for gaming isn't trolling, its just stating the facts. My advice to anyone considering buying a laptop for gaming is to ask yourself "Do I really need the mobility of a laptop?" If the answer is no, be awesome, get a desktop. IT is when it has nothing to do with the question asked. He didn't ask to hear your opinions on gaming on a laptop. He wanted to know what the real world performance would be. You have provided nothing positive to the discussion. Your posts could be removed and there would be no loss for the OP.
Pix Severus Mew Age Outpaws 1700	Posted - 2015.12.31 01:57:40 - [15] - Quote Kinete Jenius wrote: IT is when it has nothing to do with the question asked. He didn't ask to hear your opinions on gaming on a laptop. He wanted to know what the real world performance would be. You have provided nothing positive to the discussion. Your posts could be removed and there would be no loss for the OP. It is related to the discussion that the OP has started, therefore on-topic. If he (or you, acting on his behalf) didn't want the discussion to branch out, then it shouldn't have been put in General Discussion in the first place. Kinete Jenius wrote: EDIT : On top of that you're completely wrong about the performance potential or the size of a gaming laptop. An ASUS ROG GL551JW-DS71 can be bought for around $1000. Is a 15.6 inch laptop that easily fits inside a small suitcase. Has an i7-4720HQ CPU with 16 GB of ddr3. Graphics is handled by gtx 960m with 2 GB of gddr5. Storage includes a 1 TB hard drive with a 128 GB SSD for the OS/games. Display resolution is 1920x1080 TN panel. Has features such as a backlit keyboard 720p webcam and the other standard laptop stuff. I also bet it comes with a free dose of burn cream as it turns your legs into ash, and requires a small forklift truck to take it anywhere. Also, TN panels and backlit keyboards are disgusting. My lord.
Kinete Jenius Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 108	Posted - 2015.12.31 02:01:02 - [16] - Quote Pix Severus wrote: Kinete Jenius wrote: IT is when it has nothing to do with the question asked. He didn't ask to hear your opinions on gaming on a laptop. He wanted to know what the real world performance would be. You have provided nothing positive to the discussion. Your posts could be removed and there would be no loss for the OP. It is related to the discussion that the OP has started, therefore on-topic. If he (or you, acting on his behalf) didn't want the discussion to branch out, then it shouldn't have been put in General Discussion in the first place. Kinete Jenius wrote: EDIT : On top of that you're completely wrong about the performance potential or the size of a gaming laptop. An ASUS ROG GL551JW-DS71 can be bought for around $1000. Is a 15.6 inch laptop that easily fits inside a small suitcase. Has an i7-4720HQ CPU with 16 GB of ddr3. Graphics is handled by gtx 960m with 2 GB of gddr5. Storage includes a 1 TB hard drive with a 128 GB SSD for the OS/games. Display resolution is 1920x1080 TN panel. Has features such as a backlit keyboard 720p webcam and the other standard laptop stuff. I also bet it comes with a free dose of burn cream as it turns your legs into ash, and requires a small forklift truck to take it anywhere. Also, TN panels and backlit keyboards are disgusting. Now you're just trying to argue because you know you're wrong. He doesn't care about your OMG LAPTOPS ARE CRAP!!!. He cares about what can run eve according to a somewhat vague term. The only part of your post that was remotely relevant to the OP's question was the usage of the word "laptop". You're providing nothing helpful or even remotely useful to this discussion. Please go take your trolling somewhere else where someone might be impressed by your running of two screens and two clients.
Pix Severus Mew Age Outpaws 1700	Posted - 2015.12.31 02:04:44 - [17] - Quote Kinete Jenius wrote: You're providing nothing helpful or even remotely useful to this discussion. Please go take your trolling somewhere else where someone might be impressed by your running of two screens and two clients. The rest of us are having a perfectly valid conversation about the differences between laptops and desktops, based on the OP's original post. What's the problem? Also running 2 screens is impressive these days, in a world where seemingly everyone else is using tablets and craptops. My lord.
Primary This Rifter 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 996	Posted - 2015.12.31 02:30:16 - [18] - Quote Paranoid Loyd wrote: Pix Severus wrote: Laptops and gaming are never the perfect combination, I have found. Even if you do find one capable of running any game flawlessly, it'll probably be the size of a suitcase and run hotter than the sun. Let's not forget about the relative cost. If you need a laptop anyway it's typically more cost effective to buy a gaming laptop instead of a decent productive laptop and a gaming desktop. And they can usually run EVE quite well.
Primary This Rifter 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 996	Posted - 2015.12.31 02:32:11 - [19] - Quote Pix Severus wrote: Kinete Jenius wrote: Don't listen to the epenis trolls. For whatever reason people get off on calling anything that isn't a GTX 980 crap. I'm using a Radeon R9 270x, the game never drops below 60FPS at 1080p even when I'm running two EVE clients on both monitors. How's that for epeen? Calling laptop GPUs crap for gaming isn't trolling, its just stating the facts. My advice to anyone considering buying a laptop for gaming is to ask yourself "Do I really need the mobility of a laptop?" If the answer is no, be awesome, get a desktop. He's not trying to play Crysis 3, for ****'s sake...
Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 7264	Posted - 2015.12.31 02:48:20 - [20] - Quote Altair Taurus wrote: I'd like to know if laptop with i5-5200U or i7-5500U microprocessor and 920M-940M range graphic card can run EVE Online flawlessly at high graphic settings? Your CPU will make little to no difference to how well it runs depending on graphics settings. I run EVE on highest settings with an i3. AFAIK, the primary determining factor will be RAM and your graphics capability, and I use a 660ti with 16. I used to have only 8, and I've never run EVE on anything less than its very best (with only engine trails unchecked cuz I'm not a huge fan, but I used to have that checked too). I run it with dual-monitor, and have no framerate issues ever. The worst problems I get are lag problems, which are network related and nothing to do with my hardware. EVE doesn't require the top-end gear to get the best experience from it. And to play it at all, on lower settings, it won't even need any of the modern low-end gear. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 7264	Posted - 2015.12.31 02:50:07 - [21] - Quote Pix Severus wrote: Kinete Jenius wrote: You're providing nothing helpful or even remotely useful to this discussion. Please go take your trolling somewhere else where someone might be impressed by your running of two screens and two clients. The rest of us are having a perfectly valid conversation about the differences between laptops and desktops, based on the OP's original post. What's the problem? Also running 2 screens is impressive these days, in a world where seemingly everyone else is using tablets and craptops. I will say something in regards to this as well. A 'gaming laptop' is good for one thing: if you need to travel. That's it. If you don't need to travel, it's just a glorified console. You can build a PC that will run EVE at highest settings for a lot cheaper than a decent 'gaming laptop'. I build mine for $854, and EVE isn't the only thing that it'll run at full settings. What you see in that image, by the way, is just the initial build. Even with that, it was running EVE at full. Since then, it's been upgraded a bit, but not much. It does everything I need it to as is with no problems. Which is the other disadvantage of the vast majority of laptops, and why I call them glorified consoles - they cannot be upgraded and tailored to your needs as much as a PC you build yourself can. Even if you hire some labour to build it for you (most places you can buy parts from will charge a bit extra to do this), it's still cheaper than a laptop because in order to upgrade, you have to buy a whole new one, instead of just one or two components. EDIT: I will add also that my build as linked ran EVE great at full settings with multi-monitor as well. You can see I splashed out on the graphics card, and to be honest, if it's not the most expensive thing on the list of components for your build too, you're probably doing something wrong. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Pix Severus Mew Age Outpaws 1701	Posted - 2015.12.31 02:55:00 - [22] - Quote Primary This Rifter wrote: He's not trying to play Crysis 3, for **'s sake... I know, but if he wants to run EVE flawlessly**, he's going to need a desktop, that's all I'm saying. My lord.
Kinete Jenius Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 110	Posted - 2015.12.31 03:39:25 - [23] - Quote Pix Severus wrote: Primary This Rifter wrote: He's not trying to play Crysis 3, for **'s sake... I know, but if he wants to run EVE flawlessly**, he's going to need a desktop, that's all I'm saying. Frankly even a desktop won't run eve flawlessly as it's not an achievable concept with current tech. Remiel Pollard : You paid way too much for that setup if you live in the USA.
Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 7265	Posted - 2015.12.31 03:41:40 - [24] - Quote Kinete Jenius wrote: Pix Severus wrote: Primary This Rifter wrote: He's not trying to play Crysis 3, for **'s sake... I know, but if he wants to run EVE flawlessly*, he's going to need a desktop, that's all I'm saying. Frankly even a desktop won't run eve flawlessly as it's not an achievable concept with current tech. Remiel Pollard : You paid way too much for that setup if you live in the USA. Good thing I live in Australia then, where cost of living is balanced by much higher salaries and wages than in the USA ^_^ I have edited the post to clarify though. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104*
Kinete Jenius Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 111	Posted - 2015.12.31 03:52:04 - [25] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Kinete Jenius wrote: Pix Severus wrote: Primary This Rifter wrote: He's not trying to play Crysis 3, for **'s sake... I know, but if he wants to run EVE flawlessly**, he's going to need a desktop, that's all I'm saying. Frankly even a desktop won't run eve flawlessly as it's not an achievable concept with current tech. Remiel Pollard : You paid way too much for that setup if you live in the USA. Good thing I live in Australia then, where cost of living is balanced by much higher salaries and wages than in the USA ^_^ I have edited the post to clarify though. Thanks for clarifying your post. I run up to 12 clients on 3 different screens so my usage of system resources differs from the average player. I have no real reason to run all those clients at high so I hit my CPU and RAM harder than the GPUs.
Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 7267	Posted - 2015.12.31 04:18:57 - [26] - Quote Kinete Jenius wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Kinete Jenius wrote: Pix Severus wrote: Primary This Rifter wrote: He's not trying to play Crysis 3, for **'s sake... I know, but if he wants to run EVE flawlessly*, he's going to need a desktop, that's all I'm saying. Frankly even a desktop won't run eve flawlessly as it's not an achievable concept with current tech. Remiel Pollard : You paid way too much for that setup if you live in the USA. Good thing I live in Australia then, where cost of living is balanced by much higher salaries and wages than in the USA ^_^ I have edited the post to clarify though. Thanks for clarifying your post. I run up to 16 clients on 3 different screens so my usage of system resources differs from the average player. I have no real reason to run all those clients at high so I hit my CPU and RAM harder than the GPUs. Again, build it to tailor to your needs. I was speaking generally when referring to the cost of the GPU vs CPU so I could have clarified that better as well, but building a PC is the only way to really cater to your specific needs. Me, I only run one client, and that's all I've ever needed, and all I'll ever need. Don't see a point to more than one, even for PVP, and I've done just fine with only one. That being said, if you want more than one, you'll have to make sure your hardware can do that, and my primary point remains: a laptop doesn't give you the flexibility you might need for that, nor does it give you the same efficient cost/performance ratio that you can get by tailoring a PC to your specific needs. And my brother just reminded me of an important point: more power =/= better. Usually, you'll just wind up with a lot of excess power you're not using. And electricity bills are a thing. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104*
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 3893	Posted - 2015.12.31 05:44:09 - [27] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Usually, you'll just wind up with a lot of excess power you're not using. And electricity bills are a thing. If you're talking about PSUs, you only use as much power as you draw. I mean, if you have a 1200w PSU in a system that only requires 500w, you'll only draw 500w. Oh god.
Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 7269	Posted - 2015.12.31 07:37:03 - [28] - Quote Riot Girl wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Usually, you'll just wind up with a lot of excess power you're not using. And electricity bills are a thing. If you're talking about PSUs, you only use as much power as you draw. I mean, if you have a 1200w PSU in a system that only requires 500w, you'll only draw 500w. The newer ones do. Some of the older and cheaper ones don't. In any case, not just the PCU. It's a warning about unneeded excess and frills. I've been trying to find this. It's an old story about the tech he's using, but the moral remains the same: excess can have repercussions. Build what you need, especially if you don't understand exactly what's going on. It was my brother's advice to me when I built my first PC with my own bare hands, and it's advice I'll pass on to anyone else. All too often do I see 'veterans' telling the rookies in EVE that 'here's a cheap fit' offering them something that they forget a rookie won't be able to afford. It's cheap to them, not to the rookie. It's the same with building a PC, lots of people with excessively-powerful machines they understand expecting first-timers to understand as well. When it's just not necessary. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 925	Posted - 2015.12.31 08:10:25 - [29] - Quote A GTX900+ M will run Eve (and Crysis 3) just fine. Yes, I'm aware that this is gaming laptop GPU. Eve Online, which is never that much of a graphically intensive game, will average 60 FPS with everything on high, for as long as you aren't getting into a one thousand ships fleet fight. Solo roams and small gangs? No problem. If anything bigger than that just tune down the settings and everything will be okay. Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 29389	Posted - 2015.12.31 08:58:45 - [30] - Quote I have a gtx765m in my notebook, accompanied by an i7. 1920x1080, highest settings, flawless. Desktops... meh. Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: The game has changed little from my point of view ... yet here I am, playing again with 3 accounts...

Celthric Kanerian Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation 583	Posted - 2015.12.31 10:57:52 - [31] - Quote It will most likely not play at highest settings, but should do okey at lowest / medium. (20-30 fps perhaps)
Benny Ohu Chaotic Tranquility Snuffed Out 4511	Posted - 2015.12.31 11:42:20 - [32] - Quote hello my laptop has a Geforce GT 650M, 8GB RAM and i7 2.4 Ghz processor it's a couple of years old it runs eve fine on high
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 9937	Posted - 2015.12.31 13:29:44 - [33] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Good thing I live in Australia then, where cost of living is balanced by much higher salaries and wages than in the USA ^_^ That, though, is balanced in turn by the distinct disadvantage of having to live in Australia OP, I'm just going to go ahead and say loosen your purse strings, and get a Razer Blade. Yes, I know what your general budget is, but get a second mortgage if necessary. You'll thank me later! Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log
Mina Sebiestar Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate 1018	Posted - 2015.12.31 13:42:14 - [34] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Pix Severus wrote: Kinete Jenius wrote: You're providing nothing helpful or even remotely useful to this discussion. Please go take your trolling somewhere else where someone might be impressed by your running of two screens and two clients. The rest of us are having a perfectly valid conversation about the differences between laptops and desktops, based on the OP's original post. What's the problem? Also running 2 screens is impressive these days, in a world where seemingly everyone else is using tablets and craptops. I will say something in regards to this as well. A 'gaming laptop' is good for one thing: if you need to travel. That's it. If you don't need to travel, it's just a glorified console. You can build a PC that will run EVE at highest settings for a lot cheaper than a decent 'gaming laptop'. I build mine for $854, and EVE isn't the only thing that it'll run at full settings. NB: prices in that image are in Australian dollars, not American. At current flat exchange rates, that comes to 623.38, but flat exchange rates don't account for different taxes, duties, and salaries. In Australia, this is a very cheap build for what it is. What you see in that image, by the way, is just the initial build. Even with that, it was running EVE at full. Since then, it's been upgraded a bit, but not much. It does everything I need it to as is with no problems. Which is the other disadvantage of the vast majority of laptops, and why I call them glorified consoles - they cannot be upgraded and tailored to your needs as much as a PC you build yourself can. Even if you hire some labour to build it for you (most places you can buy parts from will charge a bit extra to do this), it's still cheaper than a laptop because in order to upgrade, you have to buy a whole new one, instead of just one or two components. EDIT: I will add also that my build as linked ran EVE great at full settings with multi-monitor as well. You can see I splashed out on the graphics card, and to be honest, if it's not the most expensive thing on the list of components for your build too, you're probably doing something wrong. I own laptop w mid range GTX 870m that is on par with your desktop GPU while being able to have gaming experience wherever i turn up to be. Current glorified console with mid range GTX 970m will delete your desktop any day all day long without any bias i am saying if i had option to choose single item your desktop or mine gtx870m console i would pick laptop due to similar performance while being mobile. If we are talking gaming laptops those can be upgraded with ram,hard disks,solid state drives CPUs as well as GPUs market is puny due to ppl buying garbage that is mass produced but it is there. One can start with ease and all components are there to be swapped difference between 870m and 970m or 980m are well...nothing slot it in PCIe close it play it.
Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 7270	Posted - 2015.12.31 14:06:55 - [35] - Quote Mina Sebiestar wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Pix Severus wrote: Kinete Jenius wrote: You're providing nothing helpful or even remotely useful to this discussion. Please go take your trolling somewhere else where someone might be impressed by your running of two screens and two clients. The rest of us are having a perfectly valid conversation about the differences between laptops and desktops, based on the OP's original post. What's the problem? Also running 2 screens is impressive these days, in a world where seemingly everyone else is using tablets and craptops. I will say something in regards to this as well. A 'gaming laptop' is good for one thing: if you need to travel. That's it. If you don't need to travel, it's just a glorified console. You can build a PC that will run EVE at highest settings for a lot cheaper than a decent 'gaming laptop'. I build mine for $854, and EVE isn't the only thing that it'll run at full settings. NB: prices in that image are in Australian dollars, not American. At current flat exchange rates, that comes to 623.38, but flat exchange rates don't account for different taxes, duties, and salaries. In Australia, this is a very cheap build for what it is. What you see in that image, by the way, is just the initial build. Even with that, it was running EVE at full. Since then, it's been upgraded a bit, but not much. It does everything I need it to as is with no problems. Which is the other disadvantage of the vast majority of laptops, and why I call them glorified consoles - they cannot be upgraded and tailored to your needs as much as a PC you build yourself can. Even if you hire some labour to build it for you (most places you can buy parts from will charge a bit extra to do this), it's still cheaper than a laptop because in order to upgrade, you have to buy a whole new one, instead of just one or two components. EDIT: I will add also that my build as linked ran EVE great at full settings with multi-monitor as well. You can see I splashed out on the graphics card, and to be honest, if it's not the most expensive thing on the list of components for your build too, you're probably doing something wrong. I own laptop w mid range GTX 870m that is on par with your desktop GPU while being able to have gaming experience wherever i turn up to be. Current glorified console with mid range GTX 970m will delete your desktop any day all day long without any bias i am saying if i had option to choose single item your desktop or mine gtx870m console i would pick laptop due to similar performance while being mobile. If we are talking gaming laptops those can be upgraded with ram,hard disks,solid state drives CPUs as well as GPUs market is puny due to ppl buying garbage that is mass produced but it is there. One can start with ease and all components are there to be swapped difference between 870m and 970m or 980m are well...nothing slot it in PCIe close it play it. That's all well and good, but at any point that I want to upgrade my GPU, I can do so without having to get a whole new PC. I would be interested in what you actually paid for that performance, and what it will cost to make it better. And then, of course, laptops being laptops, you'll simply never have the same ventilation a PC has, even with watercooling (which I can do too, much more easily with a nice large case). What I posted is my tailored self-built PC. It is tailored for specific needs and interests, and can be upgraded as those needs and interests evolve with a wide range of compatible options. And you know what? I didn't have to take out a loan or chop off an arm to buy it. If it's a pissing contest you want, I suggest you try a bar, but this isn't about superiority, this isn't about competing with fellow gamers - you leave that for the game itself. This is about practicality. And the best OBJECTIVE advice you can give is, laptops are for travelling, build your own PC for home (or at least pick a part set tailor made for what you need/want and pay someone to build it for you, but I guarantee the building it yourself experience is one worth having, at least once) and only pay for what you need, a specific build that suits your actually needs that can be adjusted later if needed. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Mina Sebiestar Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate 1018	Posted - 2015.12.31 14:41:42 - [36] - Quote I only pointed out that you to have glorified console as well only difference is your is restrained to your mom basement while laptops aren't. Gaming laptops are good for mobility and gaming i want both while not chopin' arms..... on other hand(lol) (in my specific case ofc) buying 3 generation behind desktop would be considered waste of money regardless of cost.
Jacen Visari Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.12.31 14:49:32 - [37] - Quote Build a gaming PC. Until then just run it on medium/low. Do not simply buy a more expensive laptop because you'll just need to upgrade again soon enough anyway. With a PC you can upgrade individual parts whenever the need arises.
King Aires Chicks on Speed Mordus Angels 70	Posted - 2015.12.31 14:55:36 - [38] - Quote In my kitchen when my kids need direct supervision I use our family laptop to play eve. i5 with HD4000 and I get a solid 60fps on relatively modest settings even in fleet or missions. Don't listen to people who say that you need a gaming PC, and don't listen to people who say that you can do it on a Tandy or Commodore64.
Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 7273	Posted - 2015.12.31 14:59:05 - [39] - Quote Mina Sebiestar wrote: I only pointed out that you to have glorified console as well only difference is your is restrained to your mom basement while laptops aren't. Gaming laptops are good for mobility and gaming i want both while not chopin' arms..... on other hand(lol) (in my specific case ofc) buying 3 generation behind desktop would be considered waste of money regardless of cost. This was unnecessarily childish and offensive. If you're going to get salty like this, then again, you want to find a public bar and pick a fight there. You want to argue the merits of building your own PC? Then argue with merits. So far, you've demonstrated none, not even a basic understanding of why I call laptops glorified consoles to begin with. That being said, reading material for people that don't think they already know everything, are willing to learn something new, and don't have massive quantities of salt perpetually flowing through their veins. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Pix Severus Mew Age Outpaws 1725	Posted - 2015.12.31 15:03:24 - [40] - Quote Buyer's remorse makes people say the most terrible things. My lord.

Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 7273	Posted - 2015.12.31 15:05:30 - [41] - Quote Pix Severus wrote: Buyer's remorse makes people say the most terrible things. Studies show, buyer's remorse is the cause of at least 100% of console fanboyism. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Mina Sebiestar Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate 1018	Posted - 2015.12.31 15:09:55 - [42] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Mina Sebiestar wrote: I only pointed out that you to have glorified console as well only difference is your is restrained to your mom basement while laptops aren't. Gaming laptops are good for mobility and gaming i want both while not chopin' arms..... on other hand(lol) (in my specific case ofc) buying 3 generation behind desktop would be considered waste of money regardless of cost. This was unnecessarily childish and offensive. If you're going to get salty like this, then again, you want to find a public bar and pick a fight there. You want to argue the merits of building your own PC? Then argue with merits. So far, you've demonstrated none, not even a basic understanding of why I call laptops glorified consoles to begin with. That being said, reading material for people that don't think they already know everything, are willing to learn something new, and don't have massive quantities of salt perpetually flowing through their veins. Alright Pollard enjoy your fine crafted PC. To the OP go for 940m and on single client you should be able to push some setting(probably most) to high enough for EVE to look pretty hopefully single person will show up in here say it have that card and provide answer instead of lot of noise....
Kinete Jenius Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 112	Posted - 2015.12.31 15:21:41 - [43] - Quote Mina Sebiestar wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Mina Sebiestar wrote: I only pointed out that you to have glorified console as well only difference is your is restrained to your mom basement while laptops aren't. Gaming laptops are good for mobility and gaming i want both while not chopin' arms..... on other hand(lol) (in my specific case ofc) buying 3 generation behind desktop would be considered waste of money regardless of cost. This was unnecessarily childish and offensive. If you're going to get salty like this, then again, you want to find a public bar and pick a fight there. You want to argue the merits of building your own PC? Then argue with merits. So far, you've demonstrated none, not even a basic understanding of why I call laptops glorified consoles to begin with. That being said, reading material for people that don't think they already know everything, are willing to learn something new, and don't have massive quantities of salt perpetually flowing through their veins. Alright Pollard enjoy your fine crafted PC. To the OP go for 940m and on single client you should be able to push some setting(probably most) to high enough for EVE to look pretty hopefully single person will show up in here say it have that card and provide answer instead of lot of noise.... I already said that I have the 7730m which is between the 920m and 940m in performance (being much closer to the 940m). At 1080p with everything maxed in an ice field with 19 ships on screen mining the 940m will probably have a few more FPS (5 or so).
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 3895	Posted - 2015.12.31 15:30:15 - [44] - Quote So it doesn't run flawlessly at high settings. What was the point of this whole argument you started then? Oh god.
Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 7275	Posted - 2015.12.31 15:35:28 - [45] - Quote Mina Sebiestar wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Mina Sebiestar wrote: I only pointed out that you to have glorified console as well only difference is your is restrained to your mom basement while laptops aren't. Gaming laptops are good for mobility and gaming i want both while not chopin' arms..... on other hand(lol) (in my specific case ofc) buying 3 generation behind desktop would be considered waste of money regardless of cost. This was unnecessarily childish and offensive. If you're going to get salty like this, then again, you want to find a public bar and pick a fight there. You want to argue the merits of building your own PC? Then argue with merits. So far, you've demonstrated none, not even a basic understanding of why I call laptops glorified consoles to begin with. That being said, reading material for people that don't think they already know everything, are willing to learn something new, and don't have massive quantities of salt perpetually flowing through their veins. Alright Pollard enjoy your fine crafted PC. To the OP go for 940m and on single client you should be able to push some setting(probably most) to high enough for EVE to look pretty hopefully single person will show up in here say it have that card and provide answer instead of lot of noise.... Most? I run at full, all of them, except engine trails only because I don't like them. It works fine with them on, and all settings set to max, full, no exceptions. It has no framerate issues even with a few thousand ships on grid with my hardware. I can even record with Action! and have no drama, all on dual monitor at 3840x1080. That video is cropped because all my intel is on my right monitor - makes making videos much easier than having to put patchy black things all over the place. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Mina Sebiestar Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate 1018	Posted - 2015.12.31 16:10:44 - [46] - Quote ^ i was referring to laptop 920-940m GPU and in my best guesstimate what hi can expect. Never questioned your desktop performance.
Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 7278	Posted - 2015.12.31 16:13:23 - [47] - Quote The point is, it's about more than just performance. It's performance vs costs vs needs. If you need to travel a lot, a laptop is ideal. Otherwise, your cost/performance ratio is always going to go to a tailor-made PC based on your needs. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
King Aires Chicks on Speed Mordus Angels 71	Posted - 2015.12.31 16:16:52 - [48] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: The point is, it's about more than just performance. It's performance vs costs vs needs. If you need to travel a lot, a laptop is ideal. Otherwise, your cost/performance ratio is always going to go to a tailor-made PC based on your needs. For those who can only afford one computer period... Laptop is always preferable because if can serve the purpose of travel, home and portability inside the home. I would suggest that if you are getting one and only one computer, a mid-range gaming laptop such as an MSI Apache would be perfect and cost effective.
Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 7280	Posted - 2015.12.31 16:26:43 - [49] - Quote King Aires wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: The point is, it's about more than just performance. It's performance vs costs vs needs. If you need to travel a lot, a laptop is ideal. Otherwise, your cost/performance ratio is always going to go to a tailor-made PC based on your needs. For those who can only afford one computer period... Laptop is always preferable because if can serve the purpose of travel, home and portability inside the home. I would suggest that if you are getting one and only one computer, a mid-range gaming laptop such as an MSI Apache would be perfect and cost effective. And again, if you don't NEED portability, you don't need a laptop. Y U NO LISTEN? Is someone who can only afford one computer going to be living in a mansion or something? GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Altair Taurus Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 32	Posted - 2015.12.31 17:39:29 - [50] - Quote Woow! Heat discussion here and while I did not want to continue it I think you deserve my clarifications: 1. I do not want to purchase gaming laptop or desktop because to run most demanding games I own PS4 console. 2. Unfortunately laptop is my only viable choice because I have to be mobile. 3. For these two reasons I am limited to not so expensive multipurpose laptop (Intel i5/i7 "U"ltra low power CPUs, low to mid range nVidia graphic card). 4. Well, having written flawlessly I meant run EVE at constant 60 fps during every possible activity excluding mass fleet battles excluded with graphic settings at medium-high level. A asked because desktop hardware is very different performance wise than laptop hardware.

ISD Decoy ISD Community Communications Liaisons 1555	Posted - 2015.12.31 17:54:32 - [51] - Quote I have removed an off-topic reply. Quote: 27. Off-topic posting is prohibited. Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued to the off-topic poster. ISD Decoy Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
King Aires Chicks on Speed Mordus Angels 72	Posted - 2015.12.31 18:08:03 - [52] - Quote Altair Taurus wrote: Woow! Heat discussion here and while I did not want to continue it I think you deserve my clarifications: 1. I do not want to purchase gaming laptop or desktop because to run most demanding games I own PS4 console. I assume computer MMO games typically have lower system requirements. 2. Unfortunately laptop is my only viable choice because I have to be mobile. 3. For these two reasons I am limited to not so expensive multipurpose laptop (Intel i5/i7 "U"-ltra low power CPUs, low to mid range nVidia graphic card). 4. Well, having written flawlessly I meant running EVE at constant 60 FPS during every possible in-game activity excluding mass fleet battles with graphic settings at medium-high level. A asked because desktop hardware is very different performance-wise than laptop hardware. http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-1080P-Gaming-Laptop-Computer/dp/B00NTNFUPA/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1451585179&sr=8-11&keywords=14%22+gaming+laptop This would be more than enough to stable 60fps at high settings with low post-processing in Eve and its very mobile and affordable. If you are talking about a low-powered tablet version of the i-series... no, low settings and 60fps in non-demanding parts of eve only.
Altair Taurus Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 33	Posted - 2015.12.31 18:13:42 - [53] - Quote Nope. I talked about exactly the same CPU as is present in above laptop - only a generation newer (i5/i7-5xxx instead of i5/i7-4xxx). However I am not knowledgeable enough about Radeon GPUs. Could you tell me what is closest nVidia alternative to R9 M275?
Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 7281	Posted - 2015.12.31 18:13:46 - [54] - Quote Altair Taurus wrote: Woow! Heat discussion here and while I did not want to continue it I think you deserve my clarifications: 1. I do not want to purchase gaming laptop or desktop because to run most demanding games I own PS4 console. I assume computer MMO games typically have lower system requirements. 2. Unfortunately laptop is my only viable choice because I have to be mobile. 3. For these two reasons I am limited to not so expensive multipurpose laptop (Intel i5/i7 "U"-ltra low power CPUs, low to mid range nVidia graphic card). 4. Well, having written flawlessly I meant running EVE at constant 60 FPS during every possible in-game activity excluding mass fleet battles with graphic settings at medium-high level. A asked because desktop hardware is very different performance-wise than laptop hardware. Well, before I built my PC, I was running EVE at mid-level settings on a Compaq Presario CQ57 with a crappy surplus intel chip and intel HD integrated graphics. In layman's terms, INCREDIBLY low-end hardware. It ran EVE at 60fps in all the time I was running it on that laptop. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Altair Taurus Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 33	Posted - 2015.12.31 18:21:45 - [55] - Quote Yet it was four years ago and EVE sys-reqs were lower than today.
King Aires Chicks on Speed Mordus Angels 72	Posted - 2015.12.31 18:32:06 - [56] - Quote Altair Taurus wrote: Nope. I talked about exactly the same CPU as is present in above laptop - only a generation newer (i5/i7-5xxx instead of i5/i7-4xxx). However I am not knowledgeable enough about Radeon GPUs. Could you tell me what is closest nVidia alternative to R9 M275? 860M GTX would be the same level, with each being better at certain things than the other. For 800 bucks you have a computer right there, at 14"(150mm) and under 6lbs or 3kg whatever your localization measurements are.
Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 7281	Posted - 2015.12.31 18:37:58 - [57] - Quote Altair Taurus wrote: Yet it was four years ago and EVE sys-reqs were lower than today. Funny you should mention that. I got EVE running on it again a few moments ago through WINE to test it out of curiosity, because I thought about this myself. Lowered the settings a bit and undocked and did some basic stuff, no drama. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
King Aires Chicks on Speed Mordus Angels 72	Posted - 2015.12.31 18:46:40 - [58] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Altair Taurus wrote: Yet it was four years ago and EVE sys-reqs were lower than today. Funny you should mention that. I got EVE running on it again a few moments ago through WINE to test it out of curiosity, because I thought about this myself. Lowered the settings a bit and undocked and did some basic stuff, no drama. Yeah, I got eve running on a C-50 1ghz single core cpu with 1gb of ram. 15fps in station :D But any of the 4th gen or better intel or any of the A6 or better APU or newer AMDs will run eve at medium perfect if you turn of dumb things like asteroid particles and light rays.
Altair Taurus Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 33	Posted - 2015.12.31 20:11:03 - [59] - Quote Yes. EVE has rather large set of graphical settings. I have to look at them carefully. BTW - Does EVE support multi-core CPUs?
Mina Sebiestar Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate 1018	Posted - 2015.12.31 21:41:27 - [60] - Quote ^ nope

Aradrox Jinn Legio X Latro Villore Accords 0	Posted - 2016.01.04 18:13:50 - [61] - Quote I believe OP mentioned said laptop was around $1000 here is a link to a review of laptops under that price range wich should all run eve quite well... I run eve maxed out over 100 fps on a desktop with a G3258 over clocked to 3.8 Gjz and gtx 760. All of these laptops should out perform my desktop in most games and applications unless they are single or double threaded and cpu intensive. Desktop took 500 to build
Yeng Constantine Entropic Platoon 14	Posted - 2016.01.05 10:41:49 - [62] - Quote I'm playing Eve with my Acer Aspire Switch 12 with minimum graphics. It could run in medium settings too but FPS will drop during huge fleet fight. So i have to turn off things like missile effects etc.
Algarion Getz Aideron Corp 93	Posted - 2016.01.05 20:31:44 - [63] - Quote Pix Severus wrote: Laptops and gaming are never the perfect combination, I have found. Even if you do find one capable of running any game flawlessly, it'll probably be the size of a suitcase and run hotter than the sun. We are not talking about the newest VR tech demo, we talk about EVE. Even my 4 year old middle class (800Gé¼) laptop can run 1 EVE client with max. settings or 4 clients with min. settings.
Aralieus Shadowbane Syndicate 294	Posted - 2016.01.06 05:12:13 - [64] - Quote I can run Eve with max settings on a 770m (3gb) and never drop below 50 fps. So yes its doable...I never understand all the hate towards laptops. Granted they may not be as powerful as their desktop counterparts but they're not slouches either. They're even starting to come out with desktop graphics cards in them. Linkage Oderint Dum Metuant
Mina Sebiestar Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate 1021	Posted - 2016.01.06 05:27:58 - [65] - Quote Aye new clevo sager models use desktop is and desktop GTX980 without throtling.....LinusTechTips did test one of first to come out against desktop configuration with same GPU they are basically same.
Aralieus Shadowbane Syndicate 294	Posted - 2016.01.06 08:18:31 - [66] - Quote Also upgrading RAM and graphics cards is very doable now in most newer laptops. I will at some point be swapping from 770m to a 980m in the very near future. My point is laptops are not as inflexible and cumbersome as desktop fanbois make them out to be. At some point the components and hardware will be just as easy to switch out as a desktop. Oderint Dum Metuant
Algarion Getz Aideron Corp 94	Posted - 2016.01.06 09:46:07 - [67] - Quote Aralieus wrote: Also upgrading RAM and graphics cards is very doable now in most newer laptops. I will at some point be swapping from 770m to a 980m in the very near future. My point is laptops are not as inflexible and cumbersome as desktop fanbois make them out to be. At some point the components and hardware will be just as easy to switch out as a desktop. Components were easy to switch out in older laptops, but they were pretty big. Modern laptops tend to be very flat so no space for sockets. Most components like graphics cards are soldered to the mainboard nowadays and you need to replace the entire mainboard if you want to fix/change graphics card. If you want all components replaceable like on a desktop you need one of the thick, expensive gaming laptops.
Bringer of BadNews Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2016.01.06 13:42:37 - [68] - Quote Altair Taurus wrote: I'd like to know if laptop with i5-5200U or i7-5500U microprocessor and 920M-940M range graphic card can run EVE Online flawlessly at high graphic settings? The laptop might, the end-user however might be a whole nother story.
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 10023	Posted - 2016.01.06 14:59:37 - [69] - Quote Bringer of BadNews wrote: a whole nother story. *other Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log


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