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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
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Posted - 2016.01.04 03:50:24 -
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People also suicide gank for the Lols. Or one of the Alliances might be holding an event, like Burn Jita where tears are the currency of choice.
So yea, just adding more emphasis on Highsec is NOT safe, just generally less likely.
My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
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gravytrader
Little Red X
2
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Posted - 2016.01.05 09:04:13 -
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Jeremy 929 wrote:so... having a bounty does NOT give people attack rights against you? how would someone go about claiming a bounty placed on someone?
is it different than seeing "wanted" on a character?
I can put a bounty on you in real life. Doesn't make it legal for someone to take you out...but you still may get taken out.
Same difference. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
1074
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Posted - 2016.01.05 12:27:44 -
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gravytrader wrote:Jeremy 929 wrote:so... having a bounty does NOT give people attack rights against you? how would someone go about claiming a bounty placed on someone?
is it different than seeing "wanted" on a character? I can put a bounty on you in real life. Doesn't make it legal for someone to take you out...but you still may get taken out. Same difference.
In real life that would be a crime. Unless you were a governmental organization. Even then it would be however since they run their respective court systems it becomes complicated to hold them accountable. Back to your comparison here, in real life hiring someone to kill another person ( which a bounty is just a publicly available contract ) is a crime. You are considered just as guilty as the person pulling the trigger.
In this game there are no consequences inherent to game mechanics for a person placing a bounty on other person.
This is a game and a Sci Fi one at that, you'd probably be better off trying to avoid real life comparison to game mechanic rules as much as possible. Obviously you can do as you wish, I'm just saying we come to this game to live a fantasy not mimic real life, or at least that's why I come here. |
Solecist Project
The Scope
Gallente Federation
30346
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Posted - 2016.01.05 13:41:45 -
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Avvy wrote:Solecist Project wrote:There is no abuse and you're just a faceless alt anyway.
Look up what abuse means.
Throwing bounty at new players changes nothing for them, but the pic.
I use them as personality test.
You're just trolling.
In case you're not ...
There is no abuse. It's fun, nothing more. Any new player who rages about the bounty
does not even understand what it means or does. For a new played it changes nothing.
I bounty new players a lot. It shows me the attitude and intellect the player has.
Ofc not everyone cares about that, understandably, but it changes nothing.
What matters is that the bounties create social content ...
... and they do that really well. There is abuse of the system as it is a failed system. Some people just place bounties on new characters just for the sake of it (some specifically target characters that don't have a bounty and are in an NPC corp.) because they can and they also know it annoys some new players as even those new players can see it's a broken system. Just goes to show how bad the system is when more seasoned players tell others that they shouldn't worry about the bounty as it doesn't mean anything.
Doesn't make it a bad system at all, actually. You just for some weird reason believe that it matters and believe everyone is a sad being needed to be protected from anything they might, eventually, not like.
Maybe we should all drop a few million bounty on you. :)
RoAnnon wrote:
O Bob, wonGÇÖt you buy a new Svipul for me
I just scanned for sites and I found a C3
The fleet is now forming, FC wants T3s
O Bob, wonGÇÖt you buy a new Svipul for me
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Avvy
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
269
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Posted - 2016.01.06 04:03:06 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Avvy wrote:Solecist Project wrote:There is no abuse and you're just a faceless alt anyway.
Look up what abuse means.
Throwing bounty at new players changes nothing for them, but the pic.
I use them as personality test.
You're just trolling.
In case you're not ...
There is no abuse. It's fun, nothing more. Any new player who rages about the bounty
does not even understand what it means or does. For a new played it changes nothing.
I bounty new players a lot. It shows me the attitude and intellect the player has.
Ofc not everyone cares about that, understandably, but it changes nothing.
What matters is that the bounties create social content ...
... and they do that really well. There is abuse of the system as it is a failed system. Some people just place bounties on new characters just for the sake of it (some specifically target characters that don't have a bounty and are in an NPC corp.) because they can and they also know it annoys some new players as even those new players can see it's a broken system. Just goes to show how bad the system is when more seasoned players tell others that they shouldn't worry about the bounty as it doesn't mean anything. Doesn't make it a bad system at all, actually. You just for some weird reason believe that it matters and believe everyone is a sad being needed to be protected from anything they might, eventually, not like.
Maybe we should all drop a few million bounty on you. :)
Not at all, don't believe that for one second (highlighted and underlined bit).
But the system from an RP perspective is complete and utter BS.
I know if I was going to place a bounty on a character, it wouldn't be using the bounty system.
As for dropping a few million bounty on Avvy, I wouldn't waste your isk. Just under a month of my sub. left and it's starting to look like I won't be bothering to even log in. |
SetSail ForEpicFail
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2016.01.06 07:23:44 -
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a bounty means nothing unless you are in a very expensive ship and have a very high bounty, bu that time you should be long gone from highsec allready and people will blow you up bounty or not |
Solecist Project
The Scope
Gallente Federation
30441
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Posted - 2016.01.06 08:17:53 -
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Avvy wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Avvy wrote:Solecist Project wrote:There is no abuse and you're just a faceless alt anyway.
Look up what abuse means.
Throwing bounty at new players changes nothing for them, but the pic.
I use them as personality test.
You're just trolling.
In case you're not ...
There is no abuse. It's fun, nothing more. Any new player who rages about the bounty
does not even understand what it means or does. For a new played it changes nothing.
I bounty new players a lot. It shows me the attitude and intellect the player has.
Ofc not everyone cares about that, understandably, but it changes nothing.
What matters is that the bounties create social content ...
... and they do that really well. There is abuse of the system as it is a failed system. Some people just place bounties on new characters just for the sake of it (some specifically target characters that don't have a bounty and are in an NPC corp.) because they can and they also know it annoys some new players as even those new players can see it's a broken system. Just goes to show how bad the system is when more seasoned players tell others that they shouldn't worry about the bounty as it doesn't mean anything. Doesn't make it a bad system at all, actually. You just for some weird reason believe that it matters and believe everyone is a sad being needed to be protected from anything they might, eventually, not like.
Maybe we should all drop a few million bounty on you. :) Not at all, don't believe that for one second (bolded and underlined bit). But the system from an RP perspective is complete and utter BS. I know if I was going to place a bounty on a character, it wouldn't be using the bounty system. As for dropping a few million bounty on Avvy, I wouldn't waste your isk. Just under a month of my sub. left and it's starting to look like I won't be bothering to even log in.
Suddenly it's about RP, which had no mention in your initial post.
Suddenly it's a completely different context.
Suddenly it's not just about old players being mean to young players.
Do you even realize that you can't be taken seriously now?
I fully agree that you shouldn't bother...
RoAnnon wrote:
O Bob, wonGÇÖt you buy a new Svipul for me
I just scanned for sites and I found a C3
The fleet is now forming, FC wants T3s
O Bob, wonGÇÖt you buy a new Svipul for me
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Avvy
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
269
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Posted - 2016.01.06 16:27:36 -
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Solecist Project wrote:[
Suddenly it's about RP, which had no mention in your initial post.
Suddenly it's a completely different context.
Suddenly it's not just about old players being mean to young players.
Do you even realize that you can't be taken seriously now?
I fully agree that you shouldn't bother...
Nothing suddenly about it.
Sadly a lot of MMOs have moved away from RP in favour of a theme park style, with achievements not helping as players seem just to treat them like a list of things to do. Probably because most players don't RP in any real sense anymore.
The bounty system doesn't work properly in this game and is unlikely to be fixed as I don't think CCP know how to fix it.
But some players do abuse the system by just giving bounties to NPC corp. players. Just because they're NPC corp. new players. Most will be new as the older ones will already have a small bounty. Which is all part of the them and us mentality that exists in this game between some of the PvPers and PvEers.
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Keno Skir
766
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Posted - 2016.01.06 17:40:01 -
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I re-activated my acct yesterday after a 2 month break. It took approx 40 seconds before the first bounty :) Some people just aren't trying hard enough..
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Centis Adjani
Adjani Corporation
100
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Posted - 2016.01.06 18:02:09 -
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Avvy wrote:The bounty system doesn't work properly in this game and is unlikely to be fixed as I don't think CCP know how to fix it. What is much to fix there?
1) Remove these ugly and just only disturbing "Wanted" signs from the Profile Pictures.
2) Remove the complete bounty system programming.
3) Done.
What is complete senseless and useless, should not stay in game and should not cost server side resources,
which better should be given to other game objectives.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
1832
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Posted - 2016.01.06 23:09:11 -
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There is not much to be done about the bounty system.
Currently it is pretty much ignored. It would require a massive bounty before people went out of their way to kill you for it.
If you gave it "more teeth" people would just game it killing themselves with alts to get the bounty.
You could introduce NPC sentinel type bounty hunters to hunt down people with bounties. This would giv ebounties some "teeth" making it risky for a high bounty player to undock in a freughter for example but (in addition to introducing a non sandbox element) this would make placing bounties a serious source of griefing especially against new players. |
Sitting Bull Lakota
Careless Bears LLC
53
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Posted - 2016.01.07 06:32:52 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:There is not much to be done about the bounty system.
Currently it is pretty much ignored. It would require a massive bounty before people went out of their way to kill you for it.
If you gave it "more teeth" people would just game it killing themselves with alts to get the bounty.
You could introduce NPC sentinel type bounty hunters to hunt down people with bounties. This would giv ebounties some "teeth" making it risky for a high bounty player to undock in a freughter for example but (in addition to introducing a non sandbox element) this would make placing bounties a serious source of griefing especially against new players.
I hear you about it being toothless. You're right about how npc hunters would make it an extreme griefing tool.
Some would say that it should only be tied to criminal acts and killmails. I think this would be a mistake. Ninja looting missions isn't a crime. Bumping isn't a crime. Extrotion using wardecs or aggression mechanics aren't crimes. Ripping people off and going back on deals and running cons in the ship trading channel should be some of the most dangerous things you can do in EvE.
There has got to be a way to give bounties teeth without severly limiting who can be bountied or giving bounties glaring exploit/griefing options.
Anyway, there is no cause for alarm or variation in one's playstyle whether he has 0 bounty or 100 billion bounty. There is no economical way to collect it in highsec, and you'd get shot at no matter what your bounty is in low, null, or wh. At present, the alarm from getting bountied as a new player simply encourages them to start searching out more info on EvE. This is a positive effect. |
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