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Tulia2
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Posted - 2007.01.21 09:27:00 -
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Yo eve comrades! (sorry for double posting  )
Would like some of your thoughts about advanced torpedoes in PVE.
Have been thinking about buying me a couple of tech2 siege launchers to my raven and since im fairly new to eve it¦s a rahter big investment for me.
To me advanced torps does¦nt seem that good in pve, anti ship torpedoes seems like u can only use them effectivly at really big and slow battleships which I guess could be good a few occations but still not very good.
And then we have long range torpedoes which seems very useful a first sight until your going to actually buy them a find out that they cost 1200 isk a piece!
I mean seriously the price of the firing the torps most be nearly as high as the bounty for killing the npc!
Well that just my impression of it but since I have¦nt tried them for real i thought i might ask some of u guys/girls that have.
Would be grateful for any info/tips!
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Dashriprock
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Posted - 2007.01.21 11:09:00 -
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i use to fly a raven for lvl4's and found t2 cruise missiles alot more effective on targets-the frigs were easy to kill from 90 km without sensor booster and skills
and good damge type against all other ship types-on final lvl of vengeance-cruise are a must for bs kills-hope this helps
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Lrrp
Minmatar
Gallente Mercantile Exchange
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Posted - 2007.01.21 16:50:00 -
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I prefer cruise for missions as like the previous poster said, they are more effective when the npc's start closing in. On a Raven you should be able to up the cruise range to a 170k. At that distance everything will be dead before they can get near you.
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Ashurn
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.01.21 21:34:00 -
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The Tech II Seige Launchers might be a good investment if you have good torpedo skills but I doubt you need to use Tech II Torpedoes to be effective, right?
Since even when using Tech I torpedoes in Tech II Seige Launchers, you still do receive the Torpedo Specialisation bonus to the RoF of the Tech II Seige launchers, no? 
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Lord WarATron
Amarr
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:17:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 21/01/2007 23:13:50
 Originally by: Ashurn
The Tech II Seige Launchers might be a good investment if you have good torpedo skills but I doubt you need to use Tech II Torpedoes to be effective, right?
Since even when using Tech I torpedoes in Tech II Seige Launchers, you still do receive the Torpedo Specialisation bonus to the RoF of the Tech II Seige launchers, no?
If you use t2 launchers or turrets, the bonus applies to any type of ammo you put in. Turret users can be very nasty by using faction ammo for that extra ooomph on their dps.
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries
Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:37:00 -
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Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 21/01/2007 23:34:17
T2 Launchers are nice if you can afford the hefty fitting reqs. T2 ammo is teh suck for PvE though. Jav torps used to be very very good but have been overnerfed in Revelations and are now utterly worthless. Rages never have been useful for PvE and never will be.
So the best thing to do would be to use T1 torps in your T2 launchers. But torps in missions are really only worth it if you can use at least two target painters, which means you need a gist tank, so basically you need to be a little rich.
If you are still poor, you are better off with cruise by far.
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Nikla Uthaan
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.01.22 05:50:00 -
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As a torp user looking to the rigs which reduce explosion radius, i find torps pretty good. People are right, javelin torps have been over nerfed, and cruise missles are *arguably* better (arguably, because i think otherwise).
As for rage torps, for PVE I only found them ever useful in specific scenarios,,, specifically the 2.5mil rat at the end,,, and that was only with my alt in a non-aggroed frig lighting up the BS with 4 TP's.
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries
Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2007.01.22 08:50:00 -
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Originally by: Nikla Uthaan
As a torp user looking to the rigs which reduce explosion radius, i find torps pretty good. People are right, javelin torps have been over nerfed, and cruise missles are *arguably* better (arguably, because i think otherwise).
The problem here being that the exp radius reducing rigs do not work on torps...
I do find torps very good myself and use the missile velocity rigs to greatly enhance their performance, but you still need at least two painters to really make torps better than cruise in PvE. And a 4-slot tank with a non-gist booster is not very likely to survive the harder L4s.
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Lord WarATron
Amarr
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.22 12:07:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 22/01/2007 12:03:26
The fastest way is T1 Cruise in t2 Cruise Launchers.
And if oyu have decent skills, you can do enough damage to bosses with t2 cruise launchers if you take Boss defender spamming into account. You can solo 6/10's in cruise(I have done it myself) and I have heard that you can also solo some 8/10's as well (though I have not verified it)
So train up t2 cruise and cruise spec and warhead upgrades etc etc. And buy yourself a few missile implants as well :)
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Apophiss Incarnate
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Posted - 2007.01.22 12:43:00 -
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I completely diassagree with everyone else, i use my Raven fitted with javelin torps for misssion running. It absolutely pawns and makes L4 missions atleast 4 times faster. Javelin torps have same stats as Tec I cruise missiles but do a shed load more damage so as long as you got half decent skills they will be fine for you.
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries
Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2007.01.22 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Apophiss Incarnate
I completely diassagree with everyone else, i use my Raven fitted with javelin torps for misssion running. It absolutely pawns and makes L4 missions atleast 4 times faster. Javelin torps have same stats as Tec I cruise missiles but do a shed load more damage so as long as you got half decent skills they will be fine for you.
That was what they did before Revelations. Now they only have slightly higher damage than cruise, and WORSE damage and the same sig radius as T1 torps (MUCH worse than cruise missiles). Using them is shooting yourself in the foot since you pay an exorbitant price for worse performance than T1 ammo...
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