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Pix Severus
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Posted - 2016.01.06 19:49:17 -
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MidnightWyvern wrote:Suddenly I feel silly about laughing at that old PS3 reveal joke.
$599 US Dollars
My lord.
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Edward Deegan
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Posted - 2016.01.06 20:57:35 -
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.... and from The WSJ.
The Oculus Rift Virtual-Reality Headset Costs $599
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jason hill
Government
The Explicit Alliance
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Posted - 2016.01.06 22:29:03 -
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oculus bought. bloody rig wont run it though  to GPU intensive on my laptop backup plan found though .... but additional -ú260 from Dell ....not a happy bunny
total outlay thus far .
Alianware laptop -ú2000 quid
Oculus -ú520 with shipping .
dell graphics amplifier (if it bloody works) -ú257 .
good bloody job I don't have kids 
if this game is crap ....im gonna scream !
and I haven't even got my hotas yet FFS ! |
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
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Posted - 2016.01.06 22:32:19 -
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Set my alarm for 3am to preorder, had budgeted AU$900 = USD 640 for the Rift and slightly more for a new computer.
Saw the price, went back to bed.
USD 650 (including GST) in Australia for the headset was bad enough but the extortionate shipping costs - USD 132 - meant it is absolutely, positively not happening.
It's not just going to be a higher price for the hardware either - this is a realignment from Oculus to focus on getting enormous sums from the people with the most disposable income. Expect some developers to carry out the same realignment (and $100+ games) while others abandon the platform and/or go broke.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
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Posted - 2016.01.07 02:39:44 -
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Interestingly, Occulus claim they aren't making any money on the hardware:
http://techcrunch.com/2016/01/06/oculus-co-founder-confirms-the-rift-will-be-sold-at-cost/
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Morgan Wulver
State Protectorate
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.07 02:51:25 -
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I'm sure it's been said before but no one was expecting the Rift to be more than $400. That low selling point of the oculus, other than Valkyrie, was the only cut it had over the HTC Vive and Steam VR. Though the Vive was suppose to be more expensive than the Rift, I doubt that this is still the case with the unexpected price hike. Even if the Vive ends up more expensive than the Rift, I'm sure the price difference will be negligible seeing as most people who can afford a 600 dollar piece of hardware operate under the philosophy of 'what's another hundred dollars?'
Doing the math here only one percent of all PCs currently in use are expected to even be able to handle Valkyrie. Of that one percent, let's assume only a sliver of that fraction will purchase a Rift at launch. So, if you think about it, only a few hundred people globally are likely to actively play Valkyrie from launch. That means those that do will be a part of a small, elite community that can freely look down on those below us and chuckle at the plebeians that only game in two dimensions.
Essentially, VR users are going to be like capsuleers in the gaming world. And I must report with a great degree of self-loathing that I find that fact alone might be worth the price point.
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Netan MalDoran
Last Garrison
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Posted - 2016.01.07 05:16:41 -
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Isn't he $299 Dev version still available?
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
1016
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Posted - 2016.01.07 06:12:12 -
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I don't really understand why people find the price so surprising. A lot of R&D went into this piece of hardware that, for now, is going to remain fairly niche. Of course it's going to be expensive.
I have a Gear VR, and the headset alone (which is literally just the optics, a touchpad, and some electronics to interface with the phone) is $100. And then the phone that provides the screen is, at retail price, is about $575. Of course you use the phone for things other than the VR headset, but still. |
Taunrich Kaufmann
Caldari Executive Mining and Exploration
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Posted - 2016.01.07 07:11:35 -
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$850AUD, gtfo Zuckerberg. Nice work pricing yourselves out of the market though.
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Morgan Wulver
State Protectorate
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.07 07:59:54 -
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So I sat down and did the math and found something that might surprise you.
For context on the current price of the rift, the Commodore 64 was considered a similar technological advancement for its time with a sticker price of 595 usd at launch in 1982. Today, that is equal to $1,486.31 for a 64-bit gaming and programming system compared to the $600 dollar price of the Oculus.
All things being equal, that makes the Rift kit less than half the cost of the Commodore 64. I'm not saying it's cheap, but it puts things in context.
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Solecist Project
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.01.07 08:57:59 -
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Heh... in the eraly 90s my dad bought a 386.
Including cdrom/soundblaster combo, vga card with 1mb vram and upgrade to 8mb ram...
... it was the single most expensive computer ever ...
... summing up to 40k schilling, 3k+ euro.
Are people ovary acting? Yeah.
Do people nowadays have less money than before compared to average living costs? Yeah, that too.
So it's kind of justified to be pissed, otoh prices will drop soon enough.
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Posted - 2016.01.07 14:30:46 -
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Now I wonder what will be the price for the controller... 
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Perkin Warbeck
Higher Than Everest
The-Culture
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Posted - 2016.01.07 20:21:26 -
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Please remain calm. It's new to the market. The price will come down. Facebook will eventually want this device to be a ubiquitous as the mobile phone or the Playstation/Xbox. It's a very, very smart move for CCP to be tied to the Rift from its earliest stages and I think it will ensure their future survival (which is good news for EvE players). |
ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2016.01.07 21:21:16 -
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Does anyone remember Virtual Boy? I spent a whole whack of money on it a long time ago.
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Perkin Warbeck
Higher Than Everest
The-Culture
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Posted - 2016.01.07 22:56:44 -
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ISD Decoy wrote:Does anyone remember Virtual Boy? I spent a whole whack of money on it a long time ago.
I used to analyse media markets as part of my job and I think the Occulus Rift is much more important than that. I posted this on Reddit the other day but I'll post a slightly edited version here for well-informed folk to digest because I honestly believe that CCP tying themselves to VR and Occulus is probably the best decision they will ever make.
Ever wondered why Facebook sank two billion dollars into Occulus? It's because the Occulus Rift is not a games platform. I'm afraid Facebook do not give a flying **** about spaceships games. Period. The Occulus is a 'digital media' platform. It's potentially the way many people will access and consume digital media in the future.
Now you may say I should stop sipping the Kool-Aid and not believe the Zuckerburg hype but think about how you consume digital media at the moment. My guess is that everyone will be using one of four or five ways to access it. You may be using Android (Google), iOS (Apple), Microsoft (Windows/Xbox) or maybe, to a lesser extent, Sony (Playstation). In some cases you will be using their propriety hardware as well (an iPhone or a PS4 for example). Selling a consumer digital content using your propriety hardware and/or using your own propriety operating system is the pinnacle of the digital media market. Only a few have achieved it and no other companies hold the keys to accessing digital media at the moment. Sure, plenty of media companies 'produce' digital content, CCP and Facebook among them, but the majority of us access that content through those four of five mechanisms.
The barrier to entry into that select market is huge and its very, very expensive. Very few companies even have the resources or capabilities to attempt it (look at where Nokia and Blackberry were and see where they are now - they missed the digital media train and now they will never get back on). But that's what Facebook is trying to do. It is trying to create an new hardware/operating system environment through which consumers access digital content. Google and others are trying to do the same even if it is to maintain thier market position. If Occulus fails then Facebook risks becoming a company that produced a social media platform that people used to use once (hello Myspace). But if it succeeds...
This move by Facebook is ground breaking and CCP are at the forefront of it. If it takes off then the sky is the limit, both for Facebook and the companies that are attached to it. That's why its potentially the best thing CCP have done. The price of the Rift will come down. All new hardware sells at a premium. I don't think it will put people off once they see its capabilities and its potential as a digital media platform.
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2016.01.07 23:03:34 -
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I hear first time something about such machine.
Watching a review of it on You Tube.... it seems that was a complete failure...
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Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
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Posted - 2016.01.08 02:02:07 -
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jason hill wrote:oculus bought. bloody rig wont run it though to GPU intensive on my laptop backup plan found though .... but additional -ú260 from Dell ....not a happy bunny total outlay thus far . Alianware laptop -ú2000 quid Oculus -ú520 with shipping . dell graphics amplifier (if it bloody works) -ú257 . good bloody job I don't have kids if this game is crap ....im gonna scream ! and I haven't even got my hotas yet FFS !
You still need to slot GPU in it you gave 257 for a box.
I will buy it if it turns out to be that I am missing on a best thing ever invented....kinda doubt it. |
Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2016.01.08 11:53:29 -
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I have some doubts if sales will really get off. They sold everything, but I dont know how many there was.
I have doubts because people need a good machine to use it, to run games smoothly, else it will completely destroy your eyes and feelings about the games.
And there is game industry and other entertaining mediums. How bold producers are to risk going into that market, how they will react on making games of specific design (that take advantage of 3d fully) that need more resources to develop and more computing power because they must run smoothly.
How the market will react to this new (but in fact old) concept of having screens right before your eyes to achieve a slightly different sensory effect.
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Taunrich Kaufmann
Caldari Executive Mining and Exploration
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Posted - 2016.01.08 12:18:13 -
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jason hill wrote:oculus bought. bloody rig wont run it though to GPU intensive on my laptop backup plan found though .... but additional -ú260 from Dell ....not a happy bunny total outlay thus far . Alianware laptop -ú2000 quid Oculus -ú520 with shipping . dell graphics amplifier (if it bloody works) -ú257 . good bloody job I don't have kids if this game is crap ....im gonna scream ! and I haven't even got my hotas yet FFS !
Build a desktop. Seriously, laptops are locked-down and you cannot upgrade many parts, not to mention that Alienware is massively overpriced anyway. You could build a better system for far less money that could run Oculus.
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Pestilen Ratte
Artimus Ratte
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Posted - 2016.01.10 01:26:42 -
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I think it is way to early to talk about the price and the market.
That issue will sort itself within hours of release. The market is amazingly dependable.
The way it will happen is that some excitable folks will buy the rift, and their curious friends will try it out. Their curious friends will make a very quick decision about how good the experience was, and whether it is worth the price. If it is, they will buy it for themselves. If it isn't, they wont.
Nobody knows, at the current time, how that will go down. We do know that it will be a massive swing one way or the other. Very few folks will buy it, or huge numbers will buy it.
The great difficulty I see for the rift is that so little content exists for it. Unless people really love Valkyrie, it might just seem like a single issue curiosity.
I know that if I got to experience Valkyrie once, on a friends VR set, that would probably do me. I could tick that box, and spend the 600 bucks on something sensible, like a coffee machine or a graphics card.
The other thing that unnerves me about the Rift is that CCP went to private equity markets to raise cash to promote the game. Why didn't they go to mr moneybags, at Facebook?
If your principle business partner, who sits on the same side of the deal table as you do, can't or wont lend you money for the joint project...... what is that about?
Still, I hope for the best. Facebook could be the next apple, and Zuckerberg could show Sony, Microsoft and all the rest how it should be done in their industry. There will be blood all over the walls in those companies if it does become a huge success! |
TheDamned
Galactic Relic Hunters Unity
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Posted - 2016.01.10 20:18:54 -
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I remember when flat panel monitors came out. $10,000 for a small one back in the day.
Now the same monitor is better, bigger and $149
Give things time. |
B0RG 0VERLORD
Viziam
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2016.01.12 16:44:47 -
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Bumblefck wrote:What on earth does this have to do with EVE?
it was eve players that paid for it. the thanks we get for it is to suffer all this bull that is eve now.
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B0RG 0VERLORD
Viziam
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2016.01.12 16:52:26 -
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Perkin Warbeck wrote:ISD Decoy wrote:Does anyone remember Virtual Boy? I spent a whole whack of money on it a long time ago. I used to analyse media markets as part of my job and I think the Occulus Rift is much more important than that. I posted this on Reddit the other day but I'll post a slightly edited version here for well-informed folk to digest because I honestly believe that CCP tying themselves to VR and Occulus is probably the best decision they will ever make. .
a bit like cross platform gaming,look how that went !!
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2016.01.12 21:46:23 -
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Sooner or later they will be $19.95 at your local Wal-Mart.
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Perkin Warbeck
Higher Than Everest
The-Culture
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Posted - 2016.01.12 22:00:13 -
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B0RG 0VERLORD wrote:Perkin Warbeck wrote:ISD Decoy wrote:Does anyone remember Virtual Boy? I spent a whole whack of money on it a long time ago. I used to analyse media markets as part of my job and I think the Occulus Rift is much more important than that. I posted this on Reddit the other day but I'll post a slightly edited version here for well-informed folk to digest because I honestly believe that CCP tying themselves to VR and Occulus is probably the best decision they will ever make. . a bit like cross platform gaming,look how that went !!
Except no company is developing VR headsets for gaming. Why do you think Google and HTC are developing their own versions? Gaming is just one application for the technology. I mean you could use your smartphone and tablet for gaming and nothing else but that would be a waste of their potential. Game consoles such as the PS4 and Xbox are connected multimedia platforms. Why would VR headsets develop any differently? |
Xtreem
Knockaround Guys Inc.
Sin City Coalition
401
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Posted - 2016.01.12 22:02:46 -
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I'll be quite honest, if I had the spare money I would be buying the unit, but I don't, so won't be, I feel this will be an issue for the company in general |
MidnightWyvern
Night Theifs
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Posted - 2016.01.13 01:52:38 -
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Xtreem wrote:I'll be quite honest, if I had the spare money I would be buying the unit, but I don't, so won't be, I feel this will be an issue for the company in general
Hardly. They sold out every single one of the pre-order headsets within 24 hours. I think it's highly unlikely that they're going to take any kind of financial hit from this.
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2016.01.13 08:50:26 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Sooner or later they will be $19.95 at your local Wal-Mart.
Hmmmm, only if you buy a 1700$ Computer with it, but maybe it will even come free with that computer.
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Zeko Rena
ENCOM Industries
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Posted - 2016.01.13 21:59:52 -
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Well they seem to be selling, shipment dates on orders are now apparently showing in May, so March and April's stock has all be sold out, of course no idea what that actual number is.
$599 USD will be about $900 NZD and that is before tax and shipping, at least the more the date gets pushed back the longer I have to save  |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
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Posted - 2016.01.21 09:51:50 -
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Extra Credits has some well thought out comments on VR in general:
http://youtu.be/QBaOpfSL2YQ
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