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Rift Scorn Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.22 13:22:00 - [1] Edited by: Rift Scorn on 22/01/2007 13:20:21 Anyone else stay hooked for an hour straight watching this? Great way to kick off Season 3, part deux. I've seen a lot of people loving it in this community, so thought i'd get feed-back. - the Apollo/Starbuck love triangle BRILLIANT! poor Duala - would appear Baltar's back - No.6 on BSG thats going to be potentially interesting - and a full cylon line boxed! - and who the hell ARE the final 5? so close, soooooooooooooooo close! Ok, so some of the basic effects driven content was stunning as usual, although nothing on the Atmosphere drop ; i still don't think we're going to see that beaten in terms of pure rush factor for a little while on any show. Still the character driven content is what gets me the most. Everyone's horrifically flawed in their own way and looks like its getting worse - no sugar coating to be seen anywhere. Grit. Love it! Anyone else lovin' the young and the restless in space as much as i am? Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03
Kelkyen	Posted - 2007.01.22 14:28:00 - [2] I've loved BSG so far. Best scifi tv show ever. Last nights show was a little less than expected. The only thing resolved was Helo/Athena getting the kid back. While the setup for the rest of the season is there, last nights show could have been cut down to 20 minutes and stuck onto next weeks. I would like a bit more scifi in my soap opera next week. A couple of snips of the Galactica hanging with the Basestars doesn't cut it. Starbuck being rescued by Dualla could have been sooo much better.
Xelios Minmatar Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.01.22 15:44:00 - [3] I loved the look back at Starbuck's painting in her apartment, that was brilliant. Baltar's situation is going to be veerrryy interesting About the final 5, it's strange that Dianna said "You! I'm sorry, I didn't know"... it must be someone she or the cylons did something to before, and probably someone we've seen before. Hmmm
Lyzander Caldari Mugen Academy	Posted - 2007.01.22 15:59:00 - [4] One thing that made me groan at the end of the last episode: Baltar's Situation: "Ohnoes, traitor Baltar is back, let's throw him in the brig." Caprica Six's Situation: "Ohnoes, there's a cylon on board, let's throw her in the brig." So what does the future hold? Happy reunion? Anger? Gaius finally getting shaved and losing the Jesus complex? Only time will tell. --- ライザンダー　・　無限学園
Rift Scorn Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.22 16:27:00 - [5] And on a side note Caprica 6 has done a Playboy shoot! ALL HAIL HUGH HEFFNER AND THE CURVY BLONDE DELIGHTS HE BESTOWS ON US ALL!! Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03
Xelios Minmatar Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.01.22 19:37:00 - [6] Sharon did a shoot for Maxim a while ago that's also quite nice
FooB2 Caldari Pre-nerfed Tactics	Posted - 2007.01.22 19:41:00 - [7] I AM POSTING IN A RIFT SCORN THREAD. KISS MY FEET.
Rockhard Trilobite	Posted - 2007.01.22 19:45:00 - [8] Originally by: Rift Scorn - No.6 on BSG thats going to be potentially interesting is this the caprica 6 with the imaginary gaius or just a random one?
Lyzander Caldari Mugen Academy	Posted - 2007.01.22 20:58:00 - [9] Originally by: Rockhard Trilobite Originally by: Rift Scorn - No.6 on BSG thats going to be potentially interesting is this the caprica 6 with the imaginary gaius or just a random one? It's Caprica 6; the original one that was responsible for the genocide of Caprica, who was reintroduced late in season 2 (early in season 3? I forget). --- ライザンダー　・　無限学園
elFarto New Order Industries	Posted - 2007.01.22 21:14:00 - [10] I've just seen it, and I must say, that was a blatant abuse of clone jumping if ever I did see one . Regards elFarto NPC database Mal: This is your captain speaking. We're having some technical difficulties, so we may experience some turbulence, and then explode.
Enders Vaal SniggWaffe Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.01.22 23:13:00 - [11] Edited by: Enders Vaal on 22/01/2007 23:10:02 It's pretty damn awesome, can't wait to see what they pull for the season finale. But I really think they need to put an end to the baby and love triangle side stories soon, as I really find those the most annoying because they deal with really mute points when compared to their overall situation. And I'd really like to see some explaination as to who/what Baltar's Caprica is (the one he keeps seeing). She's obviously disconnected from the real Cylons somehow --- Your signature picture may not be larger than 24000 bytes, 400x120 pixels. - Devil ([email protected]) "You are without doubt the worst pirate I've ever heard of." "...but you have heard of me."
Asimov Andies Gallente Red Blade Industries United Corporations of Eve	Posted - 2007.01.23 02:12:00 - [12] speculation that lemadam president... or former president as you have it, is one of the final 5, or possibly admiral adama. a friend thinks it is starbuck, but I doubt it. I personally love BSG best show ever. -=##=- Why are they shooting at us Captain?
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.01.23 17:10:00 - [13] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 23/01/2007 17:09:01 Now where is that site where you can watch the episodes online? Ah yes; Linkage Ourselves Alone
Rayvynne	Posted - 2007.01.23 18:26:00 - [14] Originally by: Enders Vaal Edited by: Enders Vaal on 22/01/2007 23:10:02 But I really think they need to put an end to the baby and love triangle side stories soon, as I really find those the most annoying because they deal with really mute points when compared to their overall situation. I don't mind the Agathon side story, but boy am I getting sick to death of Kara/Lee/Dee/Sam. My God did the preview for next week have me rolling my eyes! Let's please go back to Apollo doing cool, righteous stuff, instead of playing the role of Starbuck's 'other woman'.
Lyzander Caldari Mugen Academy	Posted - 2007.01.23 20:23:00 - [15] Edited by: Lyzander on 23/01/2007 20:20:51 Quote: ... boy am I getting sick to death of Kara/Lee/Dee/Sam. My God did the preview for next week have me rolling my eyes! Let's please go back to Apollo doing cool, righteous stuff, instead of playing the role of Starbuck's 'other woman'. AMEN. Both of them need to have the sense knocked back into them, so they actually get things done like in the first two seasons. I don't mind the Agathon side-story though, because Sharon and Helo happen to be my two favourite characters. ^^ EDIT: Just realized how odd that we can call Sharon "Athena", "Sharon", or "Boomer", yet with Helo "Karl" sounds really weird. --- ライザンダー　・　無限学園

BH Runner ISD BH Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.01.23 22:40:00 - [16] Loving BSG more and more. So looks like the 3 knew the face of one of the final models. Apologised, wonder if that was for the whole cylon race apologising, or something one of her 3's had specifically done to transgress that person. Could be alot of different 'humans' Someone 'childless' Roslyn Lee Kara Geata Col.Ty list continues and continues, should be fun. [Bug Report Here] - [Contact Us]

Tarquin Tarquinius Gallente Etruscan Kings	Posted - 2007.01.23 23:00:00 - [17] Some speculation about Starbuck... Way back in the first season Doral said "Adama is a Cylon," but this is unlikely since all the Adamas have too much backstory whereas most of the Cylons appeared out of thin air. However if Starbuck and Lee get married, and Starbuck becomes Kara Adama.....maybe Leoban was telling the future. ----- Traditional morality is just a clever way for the weak masses to shackle the strong individual. -- Callicles
Menkaure Amarr Vanitas Corp.	Posted - 2007.01.24 04:10:00 - [18] Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius Some speculation about Starbuck... Way back in the first season Doral said "Adama is a Cylon," but this is unlikely since all the Adamas have too much backstory whereas most of the Cylons appeared out of thin air. However if Starbuck and Lee get married, and Starbuck becomes Kara Adama.....maybe Leoban was telling the future. They're definately setting Starbuck up to be a cylon, but i think that might be too obvious. Might be a bluff. But then that might a double bluff aswell. But then that might be a double double bluff... Confusing? Not 'arf...
Captain Hudson Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.24 08:05:00 - [19] Originally by: Menkaure Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius Some speculation about Starbuck... Way back in the first season Doral said "Adama is a Cylon," but this is unlikely since all the Adamas have too much backstory whereas most of the Cylons appeared out of thin air. However if Starbuck and Lee get married, and Starbuck becomes Kara Adama.....maybe Leoban was telling the future. They're definately setting Starbuck up to be a cylon, but i think that might be too obvious. Might be a bluff. But then that might a double bluff aswell. But then that might be a double double bluff... Confusing? Not 'arf... not setting her up to be a cylon, but setting up her death as she finds the way to earth. Originally by: SPQRMocton We would love to have a bunch of teenage pimple boys with no real pvp ability to fil our corpse yards
Nuala Reece Caldari Starlancers	Posted - 2007.01.24 11:25:00 - [20] Originally by: BH Runner So looks like the 3 knew the face of one of the final models. Apologised, wonder if that was for the whole cylon race apologising, or something one of her 3's had specifically done to transgress that person. Except the 6 in Gaius's head told him that she wasn't the chosen one who'd see the final 5, but that he was. So it could all be a bluff. Gaius has to get his way back to the cylon basestar to take her out of the box and find out what she saw - is going to be fun seeing how he gets there. On another note - Sam must die. He's the only thing really in the way of Lee and Kara getting together, since she won't leave him but Lee would leave Duala. Also he's becoming a bit of a whiner this season If Sam dies that'll leave Lee and Kara free to get together, setting Duala in a position for irrational retribution - she's been such a constant professional and loyal figure throughought she'd be ideal for a betrayer later in this season, just like Boomer was in Season 1. Maybe Gaius will manipulate her into helping him escape BSG? Then again, knowing what the show's been like so far, something entirely unexpected and different is likely to happen instead Starlancers
Rayvynne	Posted - 2007.01.24 16:31:00 - [21] Edited by: Rayvynne on 24/01/2007 16:29:33 Originally by: Lyzander Edited by: Lyzander on 23/01/2007 20:20:51 Quote: ... boy am I getting sick to death of Kara/Lee/Dee/Sam. My God did the preview for next week have me rolling my eyes! Let's please go back to Apollo doing cool, righteous stuff, instead of playing the role of Starbuck's 'other woman'. AMEN. Both of them need to have the sense knocked back into them, so they actually get things done like in the first two seasons. I don't mind the Agathon side-story though, because Sharon and Helo happen to be my two favourite characters. ^^ EDIT: Just realized how odd that we can call Sharon "Athena", "Sharon", or "Boomer", yet with Helo "Karl" sounds really weird. About the Karl/Helo thing, I agree with you there...Heck even his wife calls him Helo! He's really become one of my favorite characters this season, because Lee's just sort of devolved into only existing to suit this twisted quadrangle of oh-so-wrong lurve. Blech! Fer cryin out loud, give Apollo a life again already! As for the 'Adama is a cylon' mess... Anyone ever given it a thought that if Dee were to turn out to be a Cylon, Leoben's prediction would be right? After all, she's an Adama now. :D
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.01.24 16:42:00 - [22] Edited by: DarkMatter on 24/01/2007 16:43:03 Edited by: DarkMatter on 24/01/2007 16:39:19 The black chick is cute as hell IMO, her eyes are f'ing awesome, her face is cute and her body is rockin... I don't care who is or is not a Cylon, but I certainly hope she sticks around 'till the end of the show! Yes, the writers have turned Lee into a whiner, I don't like it... Especially when he could not beat up Starbuck in the ring, that was stupid... Building the homestead
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.24 18:09:00 - [23] I just can't wait to see how Baltar escapes from Galactica. Narrative imperative means he can't die, so maybe they chuck him out an airlock, he downloads into a new body, goes "Yay, I'm a cylon! Clonejumping 4tw!" and finally gets to meet the final five (cos he'd be on a different ship than the ordinary seven). Or maybe they torture him for a bit and Caprica Six will break out and rescue him One bit puzzles me though. The cylons knew Athena was loyal to the colonials, why didn't they sever her link to the resurection ship? --------------------------------------------------------------------
Tarquin Tarquinius Gallente Etruscan Kings	Posted - 2007.01.24 18:28:00 - [24] Originally by: Captain Hudson not setting her up to be a cylon, but setting up her death as she finds the way to earth. That's a possibility. Someone at the SciFi channel boards suggested that way back in the first season saying that the "illness" that was killing her was her own self-destructivness. ----- Traditional morality is just a clever way for the weak masses to shackle the strong individual. -- Callicles
kessah Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.01.24 18:41:00 - [25] Commander Adama is the best possible casted member to a sci role i reckon. Really cool show. My favourite on telly by far. -------------------------------------------------------- Forever Pirate 2
Haldane IV Aliastra	Posted - 2007.01.24 19:06:00 - [26] Much as IÆm loving this show to bits and donÆt want it to ever end, my vote would be to use series 4 (assuming the show does get re-commissioned for a 4th series) to properly resolve the tale, however hard that may be given the expectations inherrent in the precept of the story, while itÆs still popular and the writers are brimful of good ideas. I would hate it for the money men to pull the plug before it got finished û like what happened in the original series, and in ôSpace Above and Beyondö, or to see it hastily wrapped up in one episode in some dumb way like ôThe Prisonerö, or even in a ôSpecialö like Farscape (though I didnÆt think that one was so bad actually). Babylon 5 was all the more satisfying because it wound up to a properly executed ending.
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.01.24 19:12:00 - [27] Edited by: DarkMatter on 24/01/2007 19:09:09 Quote: [Babylon 5 was all the more satisfying because it wound up to a properly executed ending. So true... But B5 was set out to be a 5 year saga, not sure BSG had an initial timeframe? Some shows they just keep it going as long as the ratings are there, like SG1... Building the homestead
Anatolius Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.24 19:18:00 - [28] Originally by: DarkMatter So true... But B5 was set out to be a 5 year saga, not sure BSG had an initial timeframe? Some shows they just keep it going as long as the ratings are there, like SG1... They're getting there. B5 went from primetime, to late night Sunday, then effectively cancelled. (See the packing two seasons into Season 4 thing.) Will Ted Turner come to the rescue of Battlestar Galactica? I said, halfway through season one, that if they ever kill off Baltar, the show would tank. They've been doing the next best thing. OMG AM I A CYLON!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Bah I say. "If God be for us, whom can be against us?"
Indra Sebuchiore Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.01.24 21:12:00 - [29] Just watched and loved episode 12. Another fantastic one. I would say it looks like they're setting Starbuck up to be a cylon (the apology from 3 could mean about keeping Kara imprisoned on New Caprica). But personally, I think the writers have never done what you expect, so no doubt they're intentionally leading us down a false alley, only to spring a surprise on us at a later date __________________________________________ "In girum imus nocte, et consumimur igni."
Xelios Minmatar Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.01.24 22:00:00 - [30] With Sci-Fi channel behind the wheel I'd be surprised if Galactica made it past its 4th season. They've made so many stupid decisions over there that it's amazing SG1 is the only casualty so far. Breaking up the 3 sci-fi show lineup on Friday nights? Adding wrestling shows to a sci-fi channel? Moving their flagship show to late Sunday nights? 6 month mid-season hiatus? There's talk of a BSG movie coming up, direct to dvd though. Maybe it'll set the scene for that spinoff series they're gonna do...
Wardog 1 Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.24 22:38:00 - [31] Originally by: BH Runner Loving BSG more and more. So looks like the 3 knew the face of one of the final models. Apologised, wonder if that was for the whole cylon race apologising, or something one of her 3's had specifically done to transgress that person. Could be alot of different 'humans' Someone 'childless' Roslyn Lee Kara Geata Col.Ty list continues and continues, should be fun. One of the final five has to be more unexpected than that. Like, Billy?
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.01.24 23:31:00 - [32] Edited by: DarkMatter on 24/01/2007 23:28:32 Originally by: Wardog 1 Originally by: BH Runner Loving BSG more and more. So looks like the 3 knew the face of one of the final models. Apologised, wonder if that was for the whole cylon race apologising, or something one of her 3's had specifically done to transgress that person. Could be alot of different 'humans' Someone 'childless' Roslyn Lee Kara Geata Col.Ty list continues and continues, should be fun. One of the final five has to be more unexpected than that. Like, Billy? Well, I saw a coommercial on the Sci-Fi channel, it says "one of these people will die, and one will find out they are a cylon" They showed Adama The President Lee Baltar Starbuck So those are the choices. IMO, Starbuck will die as she wants off the show, and the President will be the cylon, as she recognized number six as a cylon before anyone else knew... Building the homestead
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.01.24 23:33:00 - [33] Originally by: Xelios With Sci-Fi channel behind the wheel I'd be surprised if Galactica made it past its 4th season. They've made so many stupid decisions over there that it's amazing SG1 is the only casualty so far. Breaking up the 3 sci-fi show lineup on Friday nights? Adding wrestling shows to a sci-fi channel? Moving their flagship show to late Sunday nights? 6 month mid-season hiatus? There's talk of a BSG movie coming up, direct to dvd though. Maybe it'll set the scene for that spinoff series they're gonna do... The Sci-Fi channel is run by a woman, that's why there are so many stupid decions IMO... Clueless... Building the homestead
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.25 00:21:00 - [34] Baltar can never die. Narrative imperative demands it. Tbh, I'm getting fed up with starbuck and lee. I hope one of them turns out to be the cylon tbh . --------------------------------------------------------------------
Rift Scorn Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.25 00:49:00 - [35] Originally by: Xelios With Sci-Fi channel behind the wheel I'd be surprised if Galactica made it past its 4th season... yeah, i've kinda had my reservations about that as well in the long run not so much because of who's behind it, but more because shows that seem to have something to say for themselves get prematurely axed as a general rule, whilst rampant crap seems to go for a squillion seasons. I hopeful it'll go for the full 7 season run, but i know they're planning 'Caprica', and that usually means a few good seasons to go before le chop. There will be rioting and airbourne toasters out-side of Sci-fi HQ of they do axe it though Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03
Kollgorholl Gallente Dragons United Pure.	Posted - 2007.01.25 03:35:00 - [36] Edited by: Kollgorholl on 25/01/2007 03:33:09 Well i'm still convinced Gaeta is a Cylon. I know he isn't one of the really central characters, but it's little things throughout the various seasons that really make me think he's one of the five: D'anna would have plenty of opportunity to do something during the occupation of New Caprica that requires an apology when she realises that Gaeta is one of the five. He was the personal aide to the president and as such was on Colonial 1 throughout the occupation being discarded by the Cylons who were making the decisions. He also plays very small but Vital roles throughout the show in helping to push the story along: He was the only other person working on the Cylon detector which put him in a position to manipulate the tests and switch his own blood sample if necesary. He plots the Jumps for the Galactica and recon missions and so those events where raptors jump and "accidentally" discover new worlds like New Caprica or Kobol.. Is it really an accident or is that Gaeta playing his part. He also passes along all the information the resistance need to help them get off the planet and thus continue the search for Earth. He is responsible for the Cylon virus that infiltrated the Galactica thus givingh Sharon a chance to prove her loyalty by saving the ship. Sharon has plenty of opportunities to attack Adama, why does she do so at the end of series 1? Gaeta shakes hands with her moments before Sharon shoots Adama, the camera specifically moves down and focuses on their hand shake, she's unarmed. It seems Cylons can communicate through touch, it's how they control their ships with their goo interface systems. Does Gaeta make her fire or even hand her another sidearm? He also uncovers the fact that the photo of Baltar with a bomb prior to the attack was a fake, but not until after Baltar repents and prays to god and then is in a position where he can rise to even greater fame than before. Gaeta said "after the resolution was complete it was almost too easy to see it was a fake" So why is there such a space of time between Gaeta finishing the resolution of the image and stating it was fake. Gaeta also uncovers the plot to steal the election and is instrumental in making Baltar President. Some of the things he does seem to contradict other things, like making Baltar president so they establish a colony and then helping the resistance to fight back and ultimately escape New Caprica. But you have to keep in mind that the 5 are not like the other Cylons, Gaeta seems to be playing a vital role in making a story play out exactly as it should. Like a self fulfilling prophecy almost. Now that the President has been cured I wouldn't be surprised if Gaeta plays some small part in something which contaminates Kara and makes her terminally ill. One of the Viper Pilots (Led by Serpents numbering 2 and 10 (Prophecy of Pythia) who is instrumental in finding Earth but who dies of a wasting disease before seeing it. Now that Gaius has interfered in the original plan for the Prophecy to be fullfilled a new dieing leader is needed. If the five are trying to make sure the prophecy plays out then they may take steps to ensure that this happens.
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.01.25 11:54:00 - [37] Originally by: Kollgorholl Edited by: Kollgorholl on 25/01/2007 03:33:09 Well i'm still convinced Gaeta is a Cylon. I know he isn't one of the really central characters, but it's little things throughout the various seasons that really make me think he's one of the five: D'anna would have plenty of opportunity to do something during the occupation of New Caprica that requires an apology when she realises that Gaeta is one of the five. He was the personal aide to the president and as such was on Colonial 1 throughout the occupation being discarded by the Cylons who were making the decisions. He also plays very small but Vital roles throughout the show in helping to push the story along: He was the only other person working on the Cylon detector which put him in a position to manipulate the tests and switch his own blood sample if necesary. He plots the Jumps for the Galactica and recon missions and so those events where raptors jump and "accidentally" discover new worlds like New Caprica or Kobol.. Is it really an accident or is that Gaeta playing his part. He also passes along all the information the resistance need to help them get off the planet and thus continue the search for Earth. He is responsible for the Cylon virus that infiltrated the Galactica thus givingh Sharon a chance to prove her loyalty by saving the ship. Sharon has plenty of opportunities to attack Adama, why does she do so at the end of series 1? Gaeta shakes hands with her moments before Sharon shoots Adama, the camera specifically moves down and focuses on their hand shake, she's unarmed. It seems Cylons can communicate through touch, it's how they control their ships with their goo interface systems. Does Gaeta make her fire or even hand her another sidearm? He also uncovers the fact that the photo of Baltar with a bomb prior to the attack was a fake, but not until after Baltar repents and prays to god and then is in a position where he can rise to even greater fame than before. Gaeta said "after the resolution was complete it was almost too easy to see it was a fake" So why is there such a space of time between Gaeta finishing the resolution of the image and stating it was fake. Gaeta also uncovers the plot to steal the election and is instrumental in making Baltar President. Some of the things he does seem to contradict other things, like making Baltar president so they establish a colony and then helping the resistance to fight back and ultimately escape New Caprica. But you have to keep in mind that the 5 are not like the other Cylons, Gaeta seems to be playing a vital role in making a story play out exactly as it should. Like a self fulfilling prophecy almost. Now that the President has been cured I wouldn't be surprised if Gaeta plays some small part in something which contaminates Kara and makes her terminally ill. One of the Viper Pilots (Led by Serpents numbering 2 and 10 (Prophecy of Pythia) who is instrumental in finding Earth but who dies of a wasting disease before seeing it. Now that Gaius has interfered in the original plan for the Prophecy to be fullfilled a new dieing leader is needed. If the five are trying to make sure the prophecy plays out then they may take steps to ensure that this happens. Sheesh, and I thought I was a geek for being really into this show... Building the homestead
Ilya Murametz Caldari Hybonashi Industries Kith of Venal	Posted - 2007.01.25 17:11:00 - [38] Edited by: Ilya Murametz on 25/01/2007 17:08:51 Originally by: Kollgorholl Edited by: Kollgorholl on 25/01/2007 03:33:09 Well i'm still convinced Gaeta is a Cylon. I know he isn't one of the really central characters, but it's little things throughout the various seasons that really make me think he's one of the five: D'anna would have plenty of opportunity to do something during the occupation of New Caprica that requires an apology when she realises that Gaeta is one of the five. He was the personal aide to the president and as such was on Colonial 1 throughout the occupation being discarded by the Cylons who were making the decisions. He also plays very small but Vital roles throughout the show in helping to push the story along: He was the only other person working on the Cylon detector which put him in a position to manipulate the tests and switch his own blood sample if necesary. He plots the Jumps for the Galactica and recon missions and so those events where raptors jump and "accidentally" discover new worlds like New Caprica or Kobol.. Is it really an accident or is that Gaeta playing his part. He also passes along all the information the resistance need to help them get off the planet and thus continue the search for Earth. He is responsible for the Cylon virus that infiltrated the Galactica thus givingh Sharon a chance to prove her loyalty by saving the ship. Sharon has plenty of opportunities to attack Adama, why does she do so at the end of series 1? Gaeta shakes hands with her moments before Sharon shoots Adama, the camera specifically moves down and focuses on their hand shake, she's unarmed. It seems Cylons can communicate through touch, it's how they control their ships with their goo interface systems. Does Gaeta make her fire or even hand her another sidearm? He also uncovers the fact that the photo of Baltar with a bomb prior to the attack was a fake, but not until after Baltar repents and prays to god and then is in a position where he can rise to even greater fame than before. Gaeta said "after the resolution was complete it was almost too easy to see it was a fake" So why is there such a space of time between Gaeta finishing the resolution of the image and stating it was fake. Gaeta also uncovers the plot to steal the election and is instrumental in making Baltar President. Some of the things he does seem to contradict other things, like making Baltar president so they establish a colony and then helping the resistance to fight back and ultimately escape New Caprica. But you have to keep in mind that the 5 are not like the other Cylons, Gaeta seems to be playing a vital role in making a story play out exactly as it should. Like a self fulfilling prophecy almost. Now that the President has been cured I wouldn't be surprised if Gaeta plays some small part in something which contaminates Kara and makes her terminally ill. One of the Viper Pilots (Led by Serpents numbering 2 and 10 (Prophecy of Pythia) who is instrumental in finding Earth but who dies of a wasting disease before seeing it. Now that Gaius has interfered in the original plan for the Prophecy to be fullfilled a new dieing leader is needed. If the five are trying to make sure the prophecy plays out then they may take steps to ensure that this happens. Some very good points, also I can see a little "oh shoot, we flooked up... we almost sent him out the dock and stopped this all" later on when they realize it's him... if it's him, cause it might not me him.... or it can. Ok time for pills, be back later. You gotta be ****ting me...

BH Runner ISD BH Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.01.25 18:10:00 - [39] I have had the same thoughts about Gaeta. Afterall Baltar called him 'an idealist - and there's no sin in that' He's too good to be human :) The humans are all twisted evil freaks with too many closets and character flaws. [Bug Report Here] - [Contact Us]

Tarquin Tarquinius Gallente Etruscan Kings	Posted - 2007.01.25 19:28:00 - [40] Edited by: Tarquin Tarquinius on 25/01/2007 19:26:26 Originally by: Kollgorholl Well i'm still convinced Gaeta is a Cylon. You forgot about the Olympic Harrier. The ship that dissappeared then reappeard but was blown up by Galactica. Gaeta is responsible for giving jump coordinates to other ships, so he is responsible for the Harrier getting left behind/going to the wrong place. That ship getting lost also protected Baltar. A guy was on the ship who was going to expose Baltar's role in opening the door for the Cylons. ----- Traditional morality is just a clever way for the weak masses to shackle the strong individual. -- Callicles
Serielle Reign Technologies Solaris Consortium	Posted - 2007.01.26 02:47:00 - [41] A BSG thread on the EVE-O forums! Awesomeness :) Boy do I have something for you guys. Found this on Monday morning, and I'm not quite sure what to make of it. Of course, they turned up the white in post production, but it's still interesting to be able to see without the effects. One of them looks like Anders, another like Cally, and I would swear that the guy on the far right is producer David Eick, the one that D'Anna spoke to. I wouldn't be surprised if they just used stand-ins, knowing it would be altered in post-production, in order to not give anything away. We'll just have to wait and see I guess. RTN is now recruiting!
Lyzander Caldari Mugen Academy	Posted - 2007.01.26 04:19:00 - [42] Originally by: Serielle A BSG thread on the EVE-O forums! Awesomeness :) Boy do I have something for you guys. Found this on Monday morning, and I'm not quite sure what to make of it. Of course, they turned up the white in post production, but it's still interesting to be able to see without the effects. One of them looks like Anders, another like Cally, and I would swear that the guy on the far right is producer David Eick, the one that D'Anna spoke to. I wouldn't be surprised if they just used stand-ins, knowing it would be altered in post-production, in order to not give anything away. We'll just have to wait and see I guess. Woo! Nice find there, Serielle. You're probably right about them being stand-ins though, unfortunately. Guess we still have a ways to go before we find out!
Rachel Mansour Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2007.01.26 10:47:00 - [43] Cally's a cylon? Poor old Chief Tyrrel. He always seems to end up with the mechanical ones doesn't he. ------------------------------ Eve is the only reason I wake up in the afternoons.
Menkaure Amarr Vanitas Corp.	Posted - 2007.01.26 11:20:00 - [44] Originally by: Rachel Mansour Cally's a cylon? Poor old Chief Tyrrel. He always seems to end up with the mechanical ones doesn't he. Impossible. They have a son. Unless we're talking a second hybrid, but that screws up the prophecy, doesn't it?
Menkaure Amarr Vanitas Corp.	Posted - 2007.01.26 11:22:00 - [45] Originally by: Menkaure Originally by: Rachel Mansour Cally's a cylon? Poor old Chief Tyrrel. He always seems to end up with the mechanical ones doesn't he. Impossible. They have a son. Unless we're talking a second hybrid, but that screws up the prophecy, doesn't it? That said, its possible that Cally AND Tyrol are cylons; Tyrols entire epiphany about where the temple was was a bit too....convienient. (That'd also make them babysnatchers or somesuch)
Dei	Posted - 2007.01.26 11:32:00 - [46] Kara's painting of the Eye of Jupiter totally sets her up to be a cylon or die in the next few episodes. Tbh I don't really care which, I'm getting sick of her atm. Going back to season 1 where one of the cylons said (who, which I might add, I haven't seen for ages) said Adama was a cylon, Lee will be a cylon, Kara finds out and then goes on to die. Kat also got on my nerves, I hated that episode about her, no reason in it at all unless it plays a bigger role, but I still hate her character. Balter is my fav. character (anyone notice he looked like Jesus last episode?), and next episode hopefully should be awesome. At the end of the episode, they pull the line on the Australian cyclon who saw the final 5. At that point I was screaming at my screen shouting, "TELL US WHO THEY ARE!". Unfortunately, my random outburst didn't help.
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.26 14:10:00 - [47] Just because that cylon said Adama is a cylon doesn't make it true. He was probably lying. Besides, he was one of the lowly seven. How would he know if adama is a cylon or not? I'm personally convinced Baltar is not in fact one of the final 5, but perhaps a 13th model created after the original Baltar was killed in his house on Caprica. And he doesn't get to resurrect when he dies. --------------------------------------------------------------------
Dei	Posted - 2007.01.26 18:32:00 - [48] The story behind that model was that it mixed truth with lies. Whilst it was originally perceived to be the Admiral, may actually be Lee. Also, just because he said it doesn't mean it's not not true either.
Tarquin Tarquinius Gallente Etruscan Kings	Posted - 2007.01.26 20:18:00 - [49] Originally by: Dei The story behind that model was that it mixed truth with lies. Whilst it was originally perceived to be the Admiral, may actually be Lee. Also, just because he said it doesn't mean it's not not true either. Or it could be the younger son. The one who died. It might also be Dee since she married into the Adama family. If Lee marries Starbuck it could refer to her even. ----- Traditional morality is just a clever way for the weak masses to shackle the strong individual. -- Callicles
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.26 23:24:00 - [50] Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius Originally by: Dei The story behind that model was that it mixed truth with lies. Whilst it was originally perceived to be the Admiral, may actually be Lee. Also, just because he said it doesn't mean it's not not true either. Or it could be the younger son. The one who died. It might also be Dee since she married into the Adama family. If Lee marries Starbuck it could refer to her even. Yes but Dee married into the Adama family a long time AFTER he said Adama is a cylon. The cylon are capable of many things, but seeing into the future is not one of them. --------------------------------------------------------------------
Dei Amarr	Posted - 2007.01.27 00:21:00 - [51] This is true, if what the cylon said was true, it would mean that either Zack, Lee or the Admiral were cylons, and not anyone else. With Zack dead, and the spin off series, it may lead up to Zack returning from the grave. But who knows, next episode out in a couple of days.
Norvys Kerens Gallente Terror Knights	Posted - 2007.01.27 00:29:00 - [52] I don't think there's any truth to the whole "Adama is a cylon" thing, and if there is it'll be a surprise to even the Cylon who said it. If he knew Adama was a Cylon then he would have to know who at least 1 of the final five is. Why would he know and none of the other 7 do? As far as I understand it the final five are a mystery to even the other 7 Cylons.
Elliot Reid Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.01.27 01:18:00 - [53] Just watched it, torrents 4tw and all that, and have to say it was excellent. First Helo shooting Sharon and all between leading up to us not seeing who the new Cylon D'Anna shakes hands with is. Only Heroes is better atm. __________________________________ Sig nerf'd by CCP
superscarface 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.01.27 01:38:00 - [54] Alright, this show messes with my mind. Explain something to me... A pre-evolved-cylon built temple with clues to the five in it, wtf? Is this trail to the 13th tribe intended for the cylons (since one would assume that Earth also has a singular god), or humans to follow? Or both? I have to say, that last episode was epic, though I'm not sure about hanging around during a supernova. Incidentally, the second cowled figure from the left looks alot like Helo. God I hope they give us a definitive, solid finalT to the entire show. Don't let it get milked
Elliot Reid Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.01.27 01:50:00 - [55] The way it's going I am more and more sure when/if they reach Earth it's going to be a Cylon colony. __________________________________ Sig nerf'd by CCP
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.27 10:58:00 - [56] Originally by: Elliot Reid The way it's going I am more and more sure when/if they reach Earth it's going to be a Cylon colony. Either that, or the humans living there will be even worse than the cylons. Maybe some brutal futuristic police state or a devolved state of barbarism. --------------------------------------------------------------------
shakaZ XIV Caldari True Salvation	Posted - 2007.01.27 19:11:00 - [57] Quote: Balter is my fav. character (anyone notice he looked like Jesus last episode?) Does he ever not look like Jesus? Baltar is my fav character too, seeing him desperately try to save his ass the whole time is so funny. ;p This last episode has set him up with a reason to get back onto a cylon ship and gain access to De'anna's boxed memories... interesting. Wonder what Sharon and 6 are gonna do on galactica, besides getting the baby looked at by the doc. Sharon and 6 backstab humanity, part deux? I thought the supernova SFX looked pretty crude though, not really BSG-worthy. But the drama was good, as always. \o/
Dei Amarr	Posted - 2007.01.28 02:35:00 - [58] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Elliot Reid The way it's going I am more and more sure when/if they reach Earth it's going to be a Cylon colony. Either that, or the humans living there will be even worse than the cylons. Maybe some brutal futuristic police state or a devolved state of barbarism. I always thought that Earth will be like the Jove with the cylons getting there first, and a few scenes of 'pew pew pew' kills off the cylons. Galactica jumps in - Earth fleet messages in "Welcome home Galactica, we've been waiting for you". THE END
Tarquin Tarquinius Gallente Etruscan Kings	Posted - 2007.01.28 05:08:00 - [59] I always kinda though they'd find Earth, and it would be as it is today. About 4000 years behind the other colonies. ----- Traditional morality is just a clever way for the weak masses to shackle the strong individual. -- Callicles

Karl Chroimcer Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.01.28 11:45:00 - [60] Im defiantly enjoying BSG also. However i must say i enjoy the Cylon politics and stories much more than the human ones. The Cylons keep surprising us where as the human side is just same old. The Aussie Mod

SoulBlythe KVA Noble Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.28 17:35:00 - [61] I can;t wait for tonight's episode. I'm hoping they drop a huge bomb/plot twist/ craziness on us. As for BSG being dropped... i doubt it. They did mess-up the friday line-up but BSG will hold it's own. If anything I think NBC (sci-fi's mother company) will put it on after Heros on NBC before it drops it off. The fanbase will keep it alive like they did for SG1. Look at how long syndicated sci-fi and fantasy shows lasted like Xena, Hercules, and Andromeda (sp?) lasted. I personally feel it should have a midweek major network timeslot or move to a network like HBO where it can truely gritty ala Sopranos.
Pestachi0	Posted - 2007.01.28 18:11:00 - [62] You rock! Had no idea this was out.
elFarto New Order Industries	Posted - 2007.01.29 20:46:00 - [63] Originally by: DarkMatter Well, I saw a coommercial on the Sci-Fi channel, it says "one of these people will die, and one will find out they are a cylon" They showed Adama, The President, Lee, Baltar, Starbuck I was thinking about this, they say, "one will die, and one will be a cyclon", that could still be just one person. They die, then wake up in 'the tub' . Regards elFarto NPC database Mal: This is your captain speaking. We're having some technical difficulties, so we may experience some turbulence, and then explode.
Rift Scorn Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.30 00:59:00 - [64] Last nights epsiode was awesome! Good to see them fleshing out Duala's character somewhat, although i think they can still do more. The fact that she's a slamming hottie also helps some - looks like they're bringing the love triangle thing to an end, good to see, it was a nice idea, but got a bit old a bit quickly. But what did Baltar say to Geata? Damn them ...... Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03
SoulBlythe KVA Noble Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.30 01:35:00 - [65] Originally by: Rift Scorn But what did Baltar say to Geata? Damn them ...... I know.. it's gonna kill me waiting 2 weeks to see what's gonna happen next. Did anyone watch the scene they had on the website after the show with Caprica 6 and Roslin??
Tarquin Tarquinius Gallente Etruscan Kings	Posted - 2007.01.30 03:11:00 - [66] Originally by: SoulBlythe Did anyone watch the scene they had on the website after the show with Caprica 6 and Roslin?? Here's the reader's digest version -Roslin asked 6 for info about what the Cylons know about Earth -6 told her she needed to know they won't put her out an airlock -Roslin promised not to put her out an airlock -Six says, "like you promised Leoban?" or something like that. -Roslin smiles Gaeta is either a Cylon or he did something really bad on New Caprica. I can't wait to find out. ----- Traditional morality is just a clever way for the weak masses to shackle the strong individual. -- Callicles
SoulBlythe KVA Noble Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.30 06:11:00 - [67] Oh I watched it twice, was just wondering who else saw it.. didn't want to spoil it for the others
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.30 09:44:00 - [68] Dammit, I want to know why Gaeta went ballistic at Baltar. It can't be that he's a cylon because Baltar hasn't seen the faces of the final five yet. Oh and as for this stupid love triangle thing, how could Lee cheat on Dee with Kara ffs? Dee is sooooo much more of a hottie --------------------------------------------------------------------
Dei Amarr	Posted - 2007.01.30 13:39:00 - [69] Edited by: Dei on 30/01/2007 13:36:11 Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius Originally by: SoulBlythe Did anyone watch the scene they had on the website after the show with Caprica 6 and Roslin?? Here's the reader's digest version -Roslin asked 6 for info about what the Cylons know about Earth -6 told her she needed to know they won't put her out an airlock -Roslin promised not to put her out an airlock -Six says, "like you promised Leoban?" or something like that. -Roslin smiles Gaeta is either a Cylon or he did something really bad on New Caprica. I can't wait to find out. There's a bit more to that, it got cut short - the rest can be found on a galactica fan site. Roslin then goes on to say how Caprica can save Baltar, and Caprica says that she'll tell Roslin 'everything' if they give Baltar a fair trial, plus Caprica will be chief witness.
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.30 16:24:00 - [70] Originally by: Dei Edited by: Dei on 30/01/2007 13:36:11 Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius Originally by: SoulBlythe Did anyone watch the scene they had on the website after the show with Caprica 6 and Roslin?? Here's the reader's digest version -Roslin asked 6 for info about what the Cylons know about Earth -6 told her she needed to know they won't put her out an airlock -Roslin promised not to put her out an airlock -Six says, "like you promised Leoban?" or something like that. -Roslin smiles Gaeta is either a Cylon or he did something really bad on New Caprica. I can't wait to find out. There's a bit more to that, it got cut short - the rest can be found on a galactica fan site. Roslin then goes on to say how Caprica can save Baltar, and Caprica says that she'll tell Roslin 'everything' if they give Baltar a fair trial, plus Caprica will be chief witness. I found that site but the video wouldn't load --------------------------------------------------------------------
SoulBlythe KVA Noble Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.30 20:47:00 - [71] Link to the full scene as on the BSG offical site
Saka Mizuno The Graduates Ivy League	Posted - 2007.01.31 05:50:00 - [72] The episode needed more scenes of Sharon. Sharon is hot.
Tacitus Krekt	Posted - 2007.01.31 07:06:00 - [73] Edited by: Tacitus Krekt on 31/01/2007 07:03:55 Spoiler alert! Here is what happens (maybe). Quote: One of them, will die. Baltar Quote: One of them will find out that they are a cylon. Baltar (it goes without saying that he would get resurrected) Quote: One of them, will find earth. Again, Baltar. The cylons make it there first with his assistance, and newfound anger of humans. Assuming the trailers to be predicting what is to come, I find it impossible for the galactica coming into contact with earth; as that would negate the whole "one of them finds earth" clause. So who knows.
Dei Amarr	Posted - 2007.01.31 10:23:00 - [74] Goes without saying that it's not a spoiler at all really, since Baltar said under the interrogation that he wasn't a cylon, and if he dies then the show tanks like zyd prices. That doesn't mean of course they won't kill him off, just that about one million people are hoping he doesn't die.
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.31 10:36:00 - [75] They're going to give Baltar a fair trial. So who knows - maybe they find him innocent --------------------------------------------------------------------
Haldane IV Einstein's Dreams	Posted - 2007.01.31 17:58:00 - [76] Originally by: ReaperOfSly They're going to give Baltar a fair trial. So who knows - maybe they find him innocent In Episode 4 (I think it was), Roslins' first act when re-elected President was to grant a general pardon. If there is a Trial Baltar might argue that includes him - his problem is Roslin said that was a pardon to everyone in the fleet and at the time Baltar was on the Cylon ship, so does that count him? Then what evidence is there he aided the Cylons in any way (i.e. to find the algae planet)?
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.31 19:28:00 - [77] Originally by: Haldane IV Originally by: ReaperOfSly They're going to give Baltar a fair trial. So who knows - maybe they find him innocent In Episode 4 (I think it was), Roslins' first act when re-elected President was to grant a general pardon. If there is a Trial Baltar might argue that includes him - his problem is Roslin said that was a pardon to everyone in the fleet and at the time Baltar was on the Cylon ship, so does that count him? Then what evidence is there he aided the Cylons in any way (i.e. to find the algae planet)? Ooh well remembered! Even if he does get himself off the hook though, he'll probably get lynched by some angry mob or other. No, he needs to escape from galactica somehow and return to the cylon fleet. --------------------------------------------------------------------
SoulBlythe KVA Noble Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.31 23:09:00 - [78] *POSSIBLE SPOILERS* you know they are going to milk the trial out like the love triangle. Next episode is just probably trying to find people willing to be part of the trial as jury or the tribunal and escorting/protecting baltar on his way there. They'll show protests, riots, civil breakdown... pretty much a repeat of when Zerik took over the prison ship. There is alot of resentment torward him. Let's not forget to mention that Caprice 6 is willing to be a possible witness for the procecution. Caprica 6 also probably knows about him giving the nuke to the other Caprica when they found New Caprica which in turn brought the cylons. Baltar said in the last episode he memorized some of the cylon navigation algorithm when he was talking with Gaeta in his cell. He said this before he found the camara spying into his cell. This only shows he still has some value. I'm wondering how Baltar is having the visions of Caprica anyway. We are led to believe she is part of his anxiety, but she stated way back in the beginning she is planted within his head. he never found a device, but the human brain is just a giant computer anyway so what if the cylons found a wait to imbed a cylon's consciousness within the unused portion of the human brain. Also this could be part of his awakening as part of the final 5. They never say what they are able to do and maybe they can communicate with or hold the consciousness of all the other models... guess we'll find out sooner or later :)
Sura Novi	Posted - 2007.02.01 19:36:00 - [79] I just looked at the deleted scene from ôTaking a Breakö, where Roslin visits Caprica 6. It struck me that this is a really great scene. I wonder why it was not included. It moves the storyline along with the promise of Caprica adding to the dramatic tension of a Baltar Trial by giving evidence and maybe giving out some juicy bit of info on what the Cylons are all about. On another (sub) level, here we have one of the machines that exhibits the most human-like qualities (Sharon does not really plumb the depths of emotion and inner conflicts as Six does, IMHO), verbally jousting with Roslin, who is the human most notorious for her views that Cylons are nothing more than ôthingsö. What I get is that at the start of the scene Roslin is trying to manipulate the Cylon, as a computer program to be played. When she says Six wonÆt be spaced we know damn well she thinks she is just talking to a machine and does not consider herself bound by any promises to it, then Six takes over control of the conversation and calls her out over that, questions whether the humans have lost sight of their sense of Justice (a fundamental feature of ôhumanityö) and starts ôplayingö Roslin by making her offer to give evidence if Baltar gets a Trial. I think that is fascinating û have the Cylons progressed to the point where they are no longer machines but are true (albeit artificial) intelligences)? Are they actually ômore goodö than humans? Come to that, is human intelligence in essence no more than just a very highly evolved biological computer making decisions according to Darwinian principles of experience, and if that is so, how are humans any different to Cylons?
Lyzander Caldari Mugen Academy	Posted - 2007.02.01 19:44:00 - [80] Originally by: Saka Mizuno The episode needed more scenes of Sharon. Sharon is hot. Seconded! That said, I can't wait to see how last week's developments will play out with this week's... I need to get around to watching the bit with Roslin and Caprica Six too.

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