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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2016.01.10 19:33:20 -
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Quote:But it's the only right thing to do, Playing with plex price to make Trilions on jacking up the prices and using the items as investment is not healthy for the game at all.
Why do you think making broad sweeping statements with no evidence, or even a vague attempt to support those statements, makes for a compelling argument?
Why should your post not be ignored, or even ridiculed, as the unhinged ravings of someone who failed econ 101?
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2016.01.11 16:10:46 -
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Hairpins Blueprint wrote:Daichi Yamato wrote:people are buying more plex than ever before, BECAUSE they get so much isk for it. No, they buy less, because they get much more isk for it now. they by few insted of dozen to get same results.
So you're saying people buy more of something when they're getting a poor value for their money, and buy less of something when they're getting a good value for their money?
Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound?
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2016.01.11 17:42:06 -
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Quote:And plex beeing traded on market only once seems to be the best way to deal with the problem.
You haven't made a substantive argument that a problem even exists, let alone one that needs to be dealt with.
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SurrenderMonkey
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Posted - 2016.01.11 22:05:58 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:Hairpins Blueprint wrote:SurrenderMonkey wrote:Hairpins Blueprint wrote:Daichi Yamato wrote:people are buying more plex than ever before, BECAUSE they get so much isk for it. No, they buy less, because they get much more isk for it now. they by few insted of dozen to get same results. So you're saying people buy more of something when they're getting a poor value for their money, and buy less of something when they're getting a good value for their money? Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound? no it does not, when plex was for 300m people had to buy 3x plex now just one. what is ridiculous here? OMG.... Look, the thing you are missing is that people have budget constraints in real life. That is, suppose a player needs 1.2 billion ISK, back when PLEX were 300 million a player would have to drop $80. Now, he drops $20. In which situation would people be more willing to buy 1.2 billion worth of ISK? Many people would consider $80 too much, but $20...okay. In other words, the higher price in game translates into increased demand in the out of game market.
Yep. It's called "price elasticity of demand", though in this case, it's slightly removed from the standard description as the price itself for the plex item is a fixed feature, but the translated price for ISK is not.
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2016.01.11 23:30:20 -
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Rek Seven wrote:PLEXing your account used to be a goal attainable by anyone. It kept the player count up and increased active in space... Now it is just for the super rich, incursion runners or the pay to win crowd to enjoy 
The "pay to win" crowd? You mean the people who are buying plex with cash and selling them for ISK?
That... doesn't make sense. They're not only likely paying for their accounts with cash (in the US, at least, a regular sub is cheaper than a plex, so it doesn't make much sense otherwise), they're also paying additional for PLEX to sell, so how, precisely, do they fall among the group of people who are likely to PLEX their account? 
If there's a problem with PLEX it's that they have apparently given people the false belief that they have some sort of right to play for "free".
Every subscription needs to be paid for by someone. If you can't afford the IG scratch to get someone else to pay for your subscription, that's not CCP's problem to fix.
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2016.01.19 23:35:58 -
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Hairpins Blueprint wrote:Let's end vicious cycle of plex price .....
You do understand that, when your argument has been thoroughly and systematically disassembled by pretty much everyone else in the thread, merely repeating yourself like you're a cheerleader spelling out "VICTORY" at a JV sporting event isn't exactly compelling stuff, right?
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2016.01.21 15:42:00 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:All this economy hoo haw is just that - hoo haw.
If CCP wants to fix the price of plex at some max value, then they just put NPC sell orders. If CONCORD is selling plex at their stations for 800 mil isk and they have an infinite supply - the price just got capped at 800 mil. If a pilot wants to buy plex for cash and put it on the market for isk, then they either put it up for less than 800 mil or sell it deep in esoteria for 1 bil.
This is the simple and direct solution to PLEX scamipulation. (my word, you can use it, but you have to send me a PLEX first).
Anything else on this matter is pretty much hoo haw. Capping it is easy enough if CCP wants to do it. There will still be opportunities in remote areas to profit.
What it really comes down to is CCP's will on this. Are they OK w/ a few rich pilots manipulating the price? Would they prefer to listen to the poor poor masses and act justly? It's their call.
(I took some poetic liberty here, but in the end it's a simple solution if CCP sees or comes to see it as an actual problem)
As awful as the OP's idea is, that is actually even less usable. The one thing that is definitely not going to happen is divorcing plex from real currency.
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2016.02.17 19:34:00 -
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Hairpins Blueprint wrote:Nafensoriel wrote:Ok. You want regulation. Do you realize this can possibly lead to an event where plex is not worth buying? Yes its a thing. Smaller MMOs suffer from the issue where that 19 bucks isnt worth spending since the in game currency gains are not a significant time saving.
Additionally just a big old smack of realism to idealistic thoughts here...
Begging for regulation is basically admiting you cant handle your own crap. It's asking a government(CCP in this case) to think for you. No government has ever f*cked this up have they?
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Actually I will expand this..
You want 300m plex. That's 3hrs. You want to spend 19 bucks to save 3hrs of in game time which is worth 30 days of game time.
Sounds really stupid when put into perspective doesn't it? it's more about insane market, and how few traders have total control over a meta game item.
They really need to add tinfoil hats to the NES.
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2016.02.17 23:27:27 -
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Hairpins Blueprint wrote:
CCP is losing money on this ... the more plex cost the less people buy.
Your claims regarding this have been thoroughly debunked in the thread already. You don't lend any credibility to yourself as something other than a whacky conspiracy theorist by merely repeating them ad nauseum.
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