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Crellion
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.02 15:24:00 -
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1. Its funny how people come crying here to force others to explain to them how to counter Nanoships to avoid nerfage. You ll get nothing from me. Yes its uber when you see one eject pls.
2. Nanobs is not as good in many combat situations as a normal BS. (a) 2 ceptors / Rapier / stabber + say 2 BCs kill it. Try to kill a Gank Mega with that and you ll get splattered all over the grid. (b) They become useless when numbers grow. If your team had 1-3 people NanoBSs are usefull. If there is 20 of you they are probably useless. If you want to attack a mixed gang they are the worst BS to have often.
3. They are however good at one thing. Behind enemy line disruption of little 0.0 blobacarebears. 2000 people alliances who think they can bubble the chokepoint with 100 people and have the other 1900 mine with lows filled with cargo expanders or rat with ravens sporting torps 1 salvager 1 tractor beam and 3 Heavy drones. Well boohoo very much...
If you know what you are doing you can kill a nanoship with a huge combination of 2 man teams in most of which a Rapier doesnt figure. But then you do have to know how to pvp... survival of the fittest and all that.
4. Soemeone posted how he trained billions of skills to train for a race that has no nano BS. It takes 10-12 days to train Domi lvl4 or Phoon lvl4 (I know it does cause I did it recently). If you dont have any missle skills or any drone skills or any navigation skills that not a problem with your race but a problem with your training program...
5. Ceptors can fit a small nos. Keeps your web and scram running long enough. You are not webbed so he needs 1 min+ to kill you.
There is only 1 points I sympathise with:
Heavy missles and their precision variant should in my opinion so some reasonable damage to BS sized objects going at 3-5 km/s. Target navigation prediction needs a tweak. In every other respect... keep on whining and ejecting.
See you in space.
PS (I wont post replies to replies you can say nanoBS can outank and outank a Hyperion and I wont reply so it must be true o/) Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim. |
Crellion
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.03 05:34:00 -
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Originally by: Angelic Resolution Here's a little fact.
I just fought a nanophoon that went 4.8k's.
This nanophoon managed to pop a raven and a megathron without losing his shields completely.
My t2 cruise missiles did all on 0.1 dmg on him when he was going full speed. The only reason he got to within 3/4's of shields was because he turned wrong.
Care to tell me how this is balanced. Anyone? oh that's right.. It's not. Put it any way you want the tactic used although sound, is so far unbalanced it isn't funny. We had a gang of 13 ships after this one nanophoon and all of us could deal damage to a normal ship. But these nanoships, you'd be lucky if you even hit them with a small rail let alone a decent hit with missiles.
This post has changed my views. I see the light. Nanophoons must be nerfed. NPC#s suffer torture inhuman and degrading behaviour daily.
What is the government doing? When will they tell us the truth? Elvis is alive and performs at Jita 4-4 on Fridays Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim. |
Crellion
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.04 12:33:00 -
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The heart of the matter is that the same person who would poon you in a normal BS anyway does it in a nanoBS... and the one who would make a mistake and lose his BS will make same mistake and lose his nanoBS... but this thread at least gives an alternative shaft for people to vent their anguish... so it is a good thing in a way...
Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim. |
Crellion
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.03.19 16:08:00 -
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Prima facie looks reasonable.
However what is more important at the moment: to nerf the anti blob tactics or to nerf the blobs themselves?
I guess its democratic measure ... power to the masses etc
Dont think however it will change much in the pvp balances... Nanophoon wont be as good but the Raven and blaster ships will pown again so I am happy the only really benefitted party is the Vagabond pilots who again have the single "behind enemy lines" ship in the EvE universe...
all in all: "meh"
Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim. |
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