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Almarez	Posted - 2007.01.23 16:22:00 - [1] Hey guys I have a question. If we ever get T2 battleships, which Tier 1 BS would you like to see turned into a tech II counterpart and what would you like to see as the T2 bonuses. For me, I think I would have to say I would like to see the Apoc, with a tracking and damage bonus. I don't know much about the other races BS's but I think the Scorp with a resist bonus to shields and maybe shield boost amount. I think a better tank is called for now that EW has been nerfed. That also begs the question, should the T2 battleships be based on the same tier T1 battleships or just pick whatever is thought of as the best option?
Kruel Blunt Force Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.23 16:27:00 - [2] Domi with +1 drone bonus per lvl.
Ione Hunt Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.01.23 16:27:00 - [3] Black Dominix: Double drone damage/durability bonus (+20% per BS lvl) Bonus to NOS (+20% cap drain per BS lvl) Bonus to speed (+20% per BS lvl) Yes, three boni. It's such an ugly ship, it deserves uberness!! PS: Imo T2 BS would screw over all smaller ships if they get HAC resists. I hope they'll either be gang-ships or that they never see the light of day. _______________
Twin blade Minmatar The Caldari Confederation	Posted - 2007.01.23 16:31:00 - [4] Typhoon with 7 guns like the navy version. !
Almarez	Posted - 2007.01.23 16:33:00 - [5] One more thing, come up with a cool name for it!!!
Sokratesz Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.01.23 16:37:00 - [6] They should be command ships with about the same DPS but better resists. If you give them both better resists AND better DPS it'll ruin the game. Basilisk Fitting Link
Maruk Ihnati Gallente United Warriors Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.01.23 16:46:00 - [7] Edited by: Maruk Ihnati on 23/01/2007 16:45:57 Edited by: Maruk Ihnati on 23/01/2007 16:43:49 From what I heard, the devs don't want t2 BS's to be like bigger hacs or bigger command ships but rather give them special roles. I personally like what Farjung sujested during the Alliance Tournament to give them the limited ability to create a jump portal similar to the titan's but with limitations so you can't do what the titan is able to do. Maybe can create the portal only one jump away and you have a limited mass (cumulative of the ships masses) that can go through it. So you can have more t1 frigs and less BS's. I would not like to see BS with hac and command ships god like resistances either...
Almarez	Posted - 2007.01.23 16:54:00 - [8] Originally by: Maruk Ihnati Edited by: Maruk Ihnati on 23/01/2007 16:45:57 Edited by: Maruk Ihnati on 23/01/2007 16:43:49 From what I heard, the devs don't want t2 BS's to be like bigger hacs or bigger command ships but rather give them special roles. I personally like what Farjung sujested during the Alliance Tournament to give them the limited ability to create a jump portal similar to the titan's but with limitations so you can't do what the titan is able to do. Maybe can create the portal only one jump away and you have a limited mass (cumulative of the ships masses) that can go through it. So you can have more t1 frigs and less BS's. I would not like to see BS with hac and command ships god like resistances either... Cool idea. But you have to give them a little more Umph...so what would it be. I see this jump portal as a role bonus, like on force recon ships or interdictors, but the ship should still be slightly more powerful. So give me something here ;).
Draahk Chimera Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.01.23 16:55:00 - [9] Oveur said during EVE tv that 1, they wont be big hacs (because that would make them uberpwonmobileshaxxoromfgimfried) and 2, they will probably have limited jump portal capabileties although he didnt specify how or what.
Karash Amerius Amarr O.E.C	Posted - 2007.01.23 16:59:00 - [10] I would like to see flagships with fleet bonuses. But that will probably fall on T2 Carriers. Merc Blog
Twin blade Minmatar The Caldari Confederation	Posted - 2007.01.23 17:02:00 - [11] How about allow them to use XL weapons but have a weak tank to make them anit cap ships but with a tank that will not allow them to take on a POS or other ships with out support. !
Horza Otho Minmatar Infortunatus Eventus	Posted - 2007.01.23 17:27:00 - [12] typhoon with enuff grid to actually fit something. --- Eris Discordia is miiiiiine
Durethia Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.23 17:32:00 - [13] Edited by: Durethia on 23/01/2007 17:29:17 The Megathron T2 Variant dubbed 'MegaOMGWTF!' Elite Battleship Skill Bonus 7.5% bonus to Large Hybrid Damage per level 15% bonus to Large Hybrid Falloff per level 8 lows 5 mids 8 highs P.S. Training Multiplier on 'Elite OMGWTF Skill' should be x1
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.23 17:49:00 - [14] I want to a few 'T2 BS' variants. Capital escort Like a normal BS, but with a jumpdrive. No, not buffed, no shinies, that's about it. Mobile shield projector. BS with 'POS shield' feature. (Special module perhaps?) Something with fairly small radius, 5-10km maybe. Uses a huge amount of cap to keep running, of the kind of quantity that it'll go down in about 20-30 seconds without cap transfers. A useful amount of hp, maybe 100k unhardened, and with a rubbish base recharge rate. (Like, 100,000s). Bit like siege mode maybe, you can't move whilst the shield is up. Or maybe you get it to 'bolt on' to your main shield, so you can harden up, and boost, but ... well, when it's gone, so's your shield and then you die. Flagships? Command bonuses, no better than normal BS, and perhaps a bonus to 'fleet command effectiveness' or something? Heavy interdictor. AOE web effect, bit like warp bubble. Or maybe just a cross between huginn and lachesis. I really think that making a T2 BS that's 'better' would be a really bad mistake to make. It'd become 'must have' in short order. (even today, in this EVE world of T2, the battleship is still a key part of a fleet). Other ideas? Logistics battleship maybe? Halfway between a Logistics cruiser and an 'actual' battleship - tanks well, does the logistics thing well, and with good range, but no real firepower.
Mush Room Svea Rike Tre Kroner	Posted - 2007.01.23 17:52:00 - [15] Edited by: Mush Room on 23/01/2007 17:51:50 Name: Hydra Hull: Rokh Class Role: Heavy Logistics Ship Commissioned in response to a perceived gap in the Caldari Navy arsenal, the Hydra was well received even by critics of the proposal. A formidable ship in its own right, the Hydra instantly solidified its role at the front line of the battlefield. Capable of single-handedly turning the tide of a battle, the Hydra is not to be taken lightly by any opponent. Developer: Lai Dai Taking from what they had learned developing the Basilisk and improving upon this, La Dai created a unique ship class previously unheard of. Competitors are still struggling to match its state-of-the-art electronic systems. The Hydra has truly become the standard by which all other are judged. Caldari Battleship Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to shield resistances and 25% smaller Signature Radius per level. Logistics Skill Bonus: 100% Scan Resolution bonus toward gang members and 200% bonus to Shield Transfer Array range per level. 99% reduction in the CPU need of Warfare Link modules. --------- Highslots: 8 Medslots: 7 Lowslots: 3 Launcher Hardpoints: 4 Turret Hardpoints: 0 Scan Resolution: 125 mm Signature Radius: 500 m Max Locked Targets: 10 Maximum Targeting Range: 110km Drone Capacity: 0m3 Max Velocity: 133 m/s Shield EM Resistance: 0% Shield Thermal Resistance: 60% Shield Kinetic Resistance: 50% Shield Explosive Resistance: 60% (Rest of the attribs are unchanged since Rokh..can't be bothered to add t2 armor resists) In addition to this Extra-Large Shield & Energy Emission modules would be added to the game. Edit: I liked Farjung's idea of mini-jump portals too..maybe the Hydra could have a sister class "Fleet Logistics Ship" or something to that end. Variety ftw.
meh meh	Posted - 2007.01.23 18:07:00 - [16] T2 APOC 5% SMARTBOMB DAMAGE 5% SMARTBOMB CAP USAGE (or range) \o/
Mastin Dragonfly Amarr	Posted - 2007.01.23 18:08:00 - [17] Whatever they are, if the follow the prices of the other t2 ships, they will be too expensive to fly into PvP for most ppl. /shrug
Almarez	Posted - 2007.01.23 18:10:00 - [18] Originally by: Mush Room Edited by: Mush Room on 23/01/2007 17:51:50 Name: Hydra Hull: Rokh Class Role: Heavy Logistics Ship Commissioned in response to a perceived gap in the Caldari Navy arsenal, the Hydra was well received even by critics of the proposal. A formidable ship in its own right, the Hydra instantly solidified its role at the front line of the battlefield. Capable of single-handedly turning the tide of a battle, the Hydra is not to be taken lightly by any opponent. Developer: Lai Dai Taking from what they had learned developing the Basilisk and improving upon this, La Dai created a unique ship class previously unheard of. Competitors are still struggling to match its state-of-the-art electronic systems. The Hydra has truly become the standard by which all other are judged. Caldari Battleship Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to shield resistances and 25% smaller Signature Radius per level. Logistics Skill Bonus: 100% Scan Resolution bonus toward gang members and 200% bonus to Shield Transfer Array range per level. 99% reduction in the CPU need of Warfare Link modules. --------- Highslots: 8 Medslots: 7 Lowslots: 3 Launcher Hardpoints: 4 Turret Hardpoints: 0 Scan Resolution: 125 mm Signature Radius: 500 m Max Locked Targets: 10 Maximum Targeting Range: 110km Drone Capacity: 0m3 Max Velocity: 133 m/s Shield EM Resistance: 0% Shield Thermal Resistance: 60% Shield Kinetic Resistance: 50% Shield Explosive Resistance: 60% (Rest of the attribs are unchanged since Rokh..can't be bothered to add t2 armor resists) In addition to this Extra-Large Shield & Energy Emission modules would be added to the game. Edit: I liked Farjung's idea of mini-jump portals too..maybe the Hydra could have a sister class "Fleet Logistics Ship" or something to that end. Variety ftw. This is what I was looking for in terms of responses (although not necessarily as detailed) but thanks Mush. Any more ideas?
Private Iron Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.23 18:30:00 - [19] Pink Roden Shipyards Dominix with 8/4/7 slots. 6 missile hardpoints 10% drone damage/hitpoints bonus per level +5 km bonus to Scout and Heavy Drone operation range per level 5% siege and cruise missiles rof bonus per level 5% thermal missile damage bonus per level 300 m3 drone bay + uber resists -----
Mush Room Svea Rike Tre Kroner	Posted - 2007.01.23 18:34:00 - [20] I have too much spare time.
Almarez	Posted - 2007.01.23 20:06:00 - [21] Originally by: Mush Room I have too much spare time. You must be at work too huh?
Derrys Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2007.01.23 20:20:00 - [22] Originally by: Mush Room Caldari Battleship Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to shield resistances and 25% smaller Signature Radius per level. So, at level 5, it would have a negative sig radius?
Borasao	Posted - 2007.01.23 20:24:00 - [23] Originally by: Derrys Originally by: Mush Room Caldari Battleship Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to shield resistances and 25% smaller Signature Radius per level. So, at level 5, it would have a negative sig radius? Yeah, and firing weapons at it heals it!
Tiuwaz Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.01.23 20:26:00 - [24] maelstrom with t2 minni shield resists ___________________________________
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2007.01.23 20:34:00 - [25] Name: Asmodeus Hull: Armageddon Role: Heavy Field Command Ship Amarr BS Bonus: 10% Laser Cap Use and 5% Large Laser RoF per level Heavy Command Ship Skill Bonus: 7.5% Large Laser Tracking and 10% Large Laser Optimal Range per level Role Bonus: -99% Gang Warfare Module CPU need Slots: 8/5/8 [7 Turrets/0 Launchers] Resists inline with Field Command Ships, and 60% of total HP emphasized in armor. ~Thor Xian, Material Defender "For all your Material Needs, Vertigo One." Corp/Alliance Services
nabort Total Mayhem. Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.23 20:35:00 - [26] Originally by: Tiuwaz maelstrom with t2 minni shield resists oh, that's just too evil
Gabriel Karade Nulli-Secundus	Posted - 2007.01.23 20:55:00 - [27] The idea of a Duvolle-skinned, jump drive capable blasterthron makes me happy in the pants... ---------- Video - 'War-Machine'
Shandling Minmatar Disband Phoenix Supremacy	Posted - 2007.01.23 21:08:00 - [28] A Maelsnipestrom! 9 Highs (9 Projectile Slots) 7 Mids 7 Lows 2 Rigs +5% Projectile Damage/Speed per BS Level +5% Targeting Range/Signature Analysis per BS level +10% Projectile Falloff per BS II Level +10% Cargo Hold per BS II Level (Gonna need a lot of ammo!)
000Hunter000 Gallente Infinite Style Incorporated Chorus of Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.23 21:21:00 - [29] Raven with 8 launcherslots, Vulture resists and 125m3 dronebay 2 boni to missiles, 1 to shield resists and 1 for drones. Yes i'm crazy and know it wil never happen but this would be my dream BS Resized tag... again... hope this pleases the tag ninjas from ccp... again :p
Dilsnik Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2007.01.23 21:22:00 - [30] Caldari Tech 2 Battleship Rokh hull - black/silver/camo hull pattern 7/8/6 6 launcher, 1 turret. 200 m3 drone bay, 600 m3 cargo bay. First bonus - 15% missile precision and explosion velocity per lvl. Second bonus 15% velocity/agility per lvl.

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