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Gaius Athonille
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.01.15 22:21:12 -
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Hello. Im back to eve after 6y break. I joined FW, and I really like it. My tactic is simple, i roam low sec and trying to find 1v1 fight in novices/small plex (i found this is the fastest way to find 1v1 fight, maybe there is a faster/better way??)
I wonder what ships are the best for solo pvp around plexes (attack other ppl doing plex) and What is the best fit type (that gives me the biggest engagment profile) for attack others in plexes when they dictate an initial range.
I played for example MWD+long point tristan, and it was great when I was sitting inside the plex and waited for the enemy. But not so great when I attacked someone in the plex.
I want to apologize for my English, I'm still learning |
Snezz Boscone
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.16 01:57:57 -
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I think you should first determine how you want to engage targets. If you like doing the kiting thing then figure out a good kiting fit. Like the Tristan,.If you wanna brawl at close range then find a fit for that. Every setup is going to have an achilles heel making the concept of a best ship moot. Pick how you want to fighf and then try to approach each engagement with your weaknesses in mind. Don't try to warp in on a plex on top a a brawler that can point you as soon as you land on the beacon. The opposite also applies. I know from experience that engaging everything will usually end in you dying in a fire. But FW plexes have been good to me for finding fights. |
Gaius Athonille
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.01.16 13:54:02 -
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Thanks for answer Snezz.
I know pvp in Eve is more complicated than simply choosing the best ship and fit.
I just need something to start with. So im looking for ship and fit that gives me the biggest engagment profile.
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Kalihira
Ultramar Independent Contracting
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Posted - 2016.01.22 13:07:28 -
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Tristan, lml breacher is very good, rail incursus, beam sllicer, comet... take ur pick ^^ |
Rykker Bow
The Scope
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Posted - 2016.01.22 15:04:41 -
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Biggest engagement profile imo would be any properly fit frigate if you are positioned tactically, ie already setup inside a plex and a fast kitey fit if you're going into an occupied plex as it gives more options to get into range.
Better advice: grab a dozen brawlers or kitey ships and see which type you like to fly then build on that. Once you get proficient you can start branching out into other styles. Remember to take fights your fit us capable of handling and not fights for the lols.
The Mjolnir Bloc - Lowsec PvP for the sophisticated -
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Silverbackyererse
The Church of Awesome
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Posted - 2016.01.24 03:03:47 -
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Gaius Athonille wrote:
I just need something to start with. So im looking for ship and fit that gives me the biggest engagment profile.
Griffin Navy. Good luck finding a fight.  |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1692
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Posted - 2016.01.24 03:12:28 -
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Best ship is friendship. Otherwise spend as much isk on a garmur as possible! |
Sean Parisi
Blackrise Vanguard
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Posted - 2016.01.25 00:17:58 -
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Here are some of the best ships in my opinion for being engaging and still performing.
- Federation Navy Comet - They can sport a massive hull tank with decent dps and active rep. Running either rails or blasters - very powerful ship. In my opinion one of the most well rounded ships to fly.
- Hookbill - Does not have the same raw power as the Comet but it can still be formidable. Has great projection with rockets and light missiles alike - but if you want to fit a tank the same level as a Comet you will have to sacrifice some of your flexibility. Great potential for fitting it in multiple ways and using its E-War slots.
- Republic Firetail - Blend between the previous two - I don't fly it enough to know in which ways it is severely different. But it can still be fit as a solid brawler or a kite ship.
- Breacher - Nice speed, good tank and decent mid slots. Bonus being rockets allowing you to get better range on blaster fits.
- Kestrel - Very flexible ship with decent raw stats and ewar potential.
- Slasher - Fast, low sig and a nice count of mid slots.
- Tristan - Probably the strongest of the Tech 1 frigates. Has the most flexible envelope of engagement, can be fit with Neuts, blasters, rails or anything else. Drones project and track well, applying solid dps with selectable damage types. Can kite effectively or brawl decently.
On principle I wouldn't fly the worm because of how absurdly broken it is.
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Tiberius Mathusia
Gallente Rebels Inc.
Villore Accords
15
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Posted - 2016.01.28 12:09:30 -
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Scram kite Comet is pretty solid though you get less fights than if you fly something like a scram kite Rifter or another T1 frigate. |
Jarsoom Blade
Blade's Legion
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Posted - 2016.01.30 18:13:21 -
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My Merlin fit:
[Merlin]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
1MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 50
Light Ion Blaster II, Void S
Light Ion Blaster II, Void S
Light Ion Blaster II, Void S
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Navy Cap Booster 50 x18
Void S x480
Null S x360
220 DPS cold, which is great on a T1 frig. With lower gunnery skills still around 200 DPS
3526 EHP, resists EM 51/ Therm 60,8/ KIN 58/ EXPLO 65 (two EM rigs gets thermal at 44% resist, so one EM, one therm)
996 m/s cold which isn't bad, scram has no effect on your speed at least.
Cheap price tag at around 5mil for ship+fit
This is EVE
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Morathi II
Operation Meatshield
Plexodus
4
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Posted - 2016.02.01 03:48:20 -
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hookbIll :p dual web rockets wIth TD & armor tank or wIth shIeld and armor ancIllary for both rep XD, kIte hook are really good too due to Is hIgh alpha, good speed and good EHP |
Borodin
Caldari State Regulars
Heiian Conglomerate
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Posted - 2016.02.01 06:30:45 -
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Hello OP,
I'm in a somewhat similar situation to you. Recently came back to the game and decided to try FW PVP.
I prefer to fly kitey fits to avoid or outpilot blobs. I haven't been at it long but I've been flying a lot of kite Condors and so far I love them. I've learned a lot so far in this little ship.
Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher
Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher
Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor
5mn Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Warp Disruptor II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Ballistic Control System II
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Bay Loading Accelerator I
With my below average skills I get 3.8km/sec, 1k EHP, 65 dps (520 dps volley) and a 36km light missile range.
Obviously fit T2 LM's when you have the skills but you will need CPU Upgrades to V, otherwise you'll have to use implants to make it all fit.
You will die to anything that looks at you the wrong way so pick your fights carefully.
Costs about 6 mil fully fit. |
Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
783
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Posted - 2016.02.05 06:59:33 -
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Comet. |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
FETID
2382
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Posted - 2016.02.05 13:08:33 -
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My 2 favourite holiday ships for when i visit solo pvp:
BRAWLING:
[Jaguar, Lan Wang's Jaguar]
Co-Processor II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
1MN Afterburner II
Medium Shield Extender II
Warp Scrambler II
Balmer Series Compact Tracking Disruptor I,Optimal Range Disruption Script
Small Energy Neutralizer II
200mm AutoCannon II,Republic Fleet EMP S
200mm AutoCannon II,Republic Fleet EMP S
200mm AutoCannon II,Republic Fleet EMP S
Small Ancillary Current Router II
Small Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
KITING:
[Harpy, Lan Wang's Harpy]
Co-Processor II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
150mm Railgun II,Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II,Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II,Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II,Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
"Yeah. Put your tears in a jet can and leave them on your undock for your assailants to pick up. If they're camping you, I'm sure they're going to get thirsty." - Darth Squeemus
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Angel Cartel || Serpentis
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SeaSaw
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.02.06 15:13:51 -
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an empty rifter for defensive plexing. If you are going to keep an eye on your ship then put 3 wcs on it. |
Burtakus
Justified Chaos
Spaceship Bebop
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Posted - 2016.03.07 17:28:21 -
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Fed Navy Comet.
MWD with 150 rails and active armor tank. |
Abannan
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
115
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Posted - 2016.03.09 09:12:28 -
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anything that can hit out to about 10km and has 3 mids. |
Shelom Severasse
The Blueprint Co.
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Posted - 2016.03.23 20:33:33 -
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there is no "best" ship. iv killed tons of things with a punisher which is regarded as the worst ship in the game. its all relative man |
Biff Parker
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.03.29 11:22:36 -
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Borodin wrote:Hello OP,
I'm in a somewhat similar situation to you. Recently came back to the game and decided to try FW PVP.
I prefer to fly kitey fits to avoid or outpilot blobs. I haven't been at it long but I've been flying a lot of kite Condors and so far I love them. I've learned a lot so far in this little ship.
Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher
Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher
Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor
5mn Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Warp Disruptor II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Ballistic Control System II
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Bay Loading Accelerator I
With my below average skills I get 3.8km/sec, 1k EHP, 65 dps (520 dps volley) and a 36km light missile range.
Obviously fit T2 LM's when you have the skills but you will need CPU Upgrades to V, otherwise you'll have to use implants to make it all fit.
You will die to anything that looks at you the wrong way so pick your fights carefully.
Costs about 6 mil fully fit.
Edit:
Since you're Gallente, I figured i'd post one of the fits i'm working towards...
Kite Tristan
Medium Azeotropic Restrained Shield Extender
5mn Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Warp Disruptor II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
8x Light Drones
Can't tell you the details off the top of my head because I haven't flown it (yet) but I hear good things.
Only thing that bothers me about this fit is that drones can be killed, and they're commonly targetted when you're fighting other kitey ships such as the Condor fit I posted above or Navy Slicers.
Also about 6 mil to fit.
Hey there,
I'm also a new player getting into Fw solo pvp.
I have injected 27 million SP into relevant frig pvp skills, specifically into missikes/rockets. I've been following a modified version of Suitonias kestrel build: it's basically extended shield, ballistic, override, single Web etc etc.. all tech2. .. however I've lost about 20 kestrels and earning only 2 kills. I'm absolutely gutted and becoming discouraged. As far as my piloting skills go, I'm OK, managing to stay out of brawler range when appropriate, or staying close during beam or rail gun fights... I always lose.
Keeping in mind all my SP in missiles/rockets.... what's an alternative frigate that I could use for faction warfare solo pvp that will be successful? I've seen the condor fit above and will look into this, but are there any other options also? Hook bill maybe?
Or should I persevere with the Kestrel and work through my mistakes?
Thanks! |
Syrias Bizniz
Zebra Corp
Goonswarm Federation
419
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Posted - 2016.03.30 23:13:30 -
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firetail.
Fitted: 280mms, 2 webs, scram, AB, armor tank.
Cargo: 200mms, shield extender, mwd, mobile depot.
How to fly: You see a brawler? Scramkite him. You see a scramkiter? Brawl him, you have the double webs, you win. You see a kiter? MWD brawl him.
Definately the most versatile frigate out there and allows you to learn everything in it and has the ability to fight pretty much any other frigate and come out on top. Even Daredevils, if you do your homework well. |
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Andrew Urbina
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
4
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Posted - 2016.04.08 09:26:22 -
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Brawling comet |
Lexiana Del'Amore
Nouvelle Rouvenor
Spaceship Bebop
189
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Posted - 2016.04.08 11:48:19 -
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rock/paper/shotgun...
there is no best...
Some ships do great Vs some and Terrible Vs others...
that's the beauty of Eve PeeVeePee... |
Sequester Risalo
Semiki Minerals and Missiles Company Ltd.
191
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Posted - 2016.04.08 15:25:07 -
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Biff Parker wrote:
Hey there,
I'm also a new player getting into Fw solo pvp.
I have injected 27 million SP into relevant frig pvp skills, specifically into missikes/rockets. I've been following a modified version of Suitonias kestrel build: it's basically extended shield, ballistic, override, single Web etc etc.. all tech2. .. however I've lost about 20 kestrels and earning only 2 kills. I'm absolutely gutted and becoming discouraged. As far as my piloting skills go, I'm OK, managing to stay out of brawler range when appropriate, or staying close during beam or rail gun fights... I always lose.
Keeping in mind all my SP in missiles/rockets.... what's an alternative frigate that I could use for faction warfare solo pvp that will be successful? I've seen the condor fit above and will look into this, but are there any other options also? Hook bill maybe?
Or should I persevere with the Kestrel and work through my mistakes?
Thanks!
I have highlighted your mistakes.
In spite of all the crying on the forums EVE still is not pay to win. Player skill tops injected SP. You seem eager to learn. So acquire knowledge in the way most appropriate to you. Watch some videos, read some blogs, buy some ships and try different fittings. But don't make this experience unnecessary expensive in using the "best" stuff. T1 hulls and equipment are sufficient to learn how to avoid mistakes.
Maybe your definition of "relevant" skills is also a little off. The mastery stuff is just a rough guideline as to what might be needed. |
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