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          Xiaodown 
          Dragons Of Redemption Southern Cross Alliance
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.01.25 15:53:00 -
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           Living in Sansha space, I get a lot of armor plates dropped from salvage. Um... They don't build anything. They're a worthless drop, no blueprint requires them - they are not a material component for any item in the game, and they cannot be reprocessed.
  But, they're taking away salvage item percentages from useful items like the nanite fluid and current pumps.
  Can we either remove them from game, or replace them in the salvage equations with more useful components?
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          Adia Celeris 
          Finis Lumen The SUdden Death Squad
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.01.26 06:54:00 -
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          This is a big pain in my side as well. I think I'm upwards of 1000 of these worthless items sitting in a hanger.
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          Sarf 
           
          
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        Posted - 2007.01.27 01:37:00 -
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          they are for some of the T2 rigs.
 
 
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          Jiekon 
           
           
  
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        Posted - 2007.01.28 23:46:00 -
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          Hammerhead said there is at least 1 blueprint that requires these items. _____________________________ ~Jiekon ~CCP QA Known Issues The LogServer Bug Reporting Guides for new Revelations Features
 
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          CCP Jiekon 
           
           
  
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        Posted - 2007.01.28 23:46:00 -
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          Hammerhead said there is at least 1 blueprint that requires these items. ________________________________ ~Jiekon ~CCP QA
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          Akhtar Leon 
          Murientor Tribe Ushra'Khan
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.01.30 10:19:00 -
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            Originally by: Jiekon Hammerhead said there is at least 1 blueprint that requires these items.
 
 
  Can you please tell us witch one? I checked all T1 Rig BPO's and none requires them. 
  And Saref .. for T2 there are Intact Armor Plates
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          Lumelame 
           
          
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        Posted - 2007.01.30 15:42:00 -
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            Originally by: Jiekon Hammerhead said there is at least 1 blueprint that requires these items.
 
  Humm, sorry but ... no I think, it's a Dev mistake. Logicaly, armor plate needs to be a salvage componant for Anti (EM, Explosive, Kinectic and Thermic) Pump Rig, replacing the contaminated nanite compound.
 
  
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          Tanis Bastar 
          Caldari Interstitial Incorporated
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.01.30 17:21:00 -
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          I have seen this question raised many times, and no one has been able to point to a specific BP that uses these things. And still no dev response...
  Has anyone bothered to look after the Jan 30 patch to see if they can be used by some kind of BP now?
 
 
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          Akhtar Leon 
          Murientor Tribe Ushra'Khan
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.01.31 16:22:00 -
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            Originally by: Tanis Bastar I have seen this question raised many times, and no one has been able to point to a specific BP that uses these things. And still no dev response...
  Has anyone bothered to look after the Jan 30 patch to see if they can be used by some kind of BP now?
 
 
 
 
  Rised this question on 3 december ... checked after 30 ian as well .. nothing changed .. by the name and faction the should be used for armor rigs, on the other hand considering all the faction relation to modules is strange that cap rigs don't require Amarr/Sansha rig parts.
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          Leitari 
          Evolution Band of Brothers
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.02 07:09:00 -
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          Silly devsies. Just keep stacking up them armor plates, they'll find a use for them eventually. Altho I'd love the option of adding extra armor plates to my hurricane... that wouldnt be too bad.   This is probably just a "minor" glitch :)
 
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          Simon Illian 
          Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.02 09:39:00 -
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          Now Angel loot them, fine :D
  it's liek "scrap metal" but with another name ? ____________________________________________ For all you'r Map & Data madness : http://eve.galop-spatial.com | 
      
      
      
          
          Max Kentarii 
          Nordic Endeavour
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.02 11:52:00 -
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            Originally by: Simon Illian Now Angel loot them, fine :D
  it's liek "scrap metal" but with another name ?
 
  Scrap metal can be reprocessed with the right skills.. so Armor Plates < Metal Scraps. -----
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          D'onryu Shoqui 
          Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.02 12:13:00 -
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            Originally by: Jiekon Hammerhead said there is at least 1 blueprint that requires these items.
  probably just not seeded yet  
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          hotgirl933 
           
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.02 20:10:00 -
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          they are now required in one BPO i spotted it ( tech 2 ones folks check them)
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          Akita T 
          Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.02 20:45:00 -
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          Edited by: Akita T on 02/02/2007 20:41:52
  Checked them all, item by item, blueprint by blueprint, item ID by item ID using grismar's showinfo from the latest export. AT THE MOMENT, no T1 rig available now uses armor plates, no T2 rig inventable uses intact armor plates.
 
   Originally by: Jiekon Hammerhead said there is at least 1 blueprint that requires these items.
 
  Lies, lies, outright lies !    As they say, "proof or sthu"   Item ID please (for the BP)   _ MySkills | Module/Rig stacknerfing explained | 
      
      
      
          
          Kellaen 
          Gallente Teeth Of The Hydra
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.04 01:19:00 -
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          Even if they are in T2 rig bpo's, the drop rate is so high this trash is more akin to a T1 drop then a T2.
  Fix this please.
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          Salvis Tallan 
          Gallente Team Condor
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.04 04:15:00 -
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          I must also agree that according to the datafiles they are not used for anything. If there have been added in, Can we please please get updated datafiles? ------
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          Akhtar Leon 
          Murientor Tribe Ushra'Khan
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.04.04 09:15:00 -
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          bump ... to Dev's ....
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          Umbriele 
          Gallente Natural Inventions
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.04.05 07:08:00 -
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            Originally by: CCP Jiekon Hammerhead said there is at least 1 blueprint that requires these items.
 
 
  No. Unless you tell us wich is.
 
 
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          Phillipe d'Rothschild 
           
          
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        Posted - 2007.04.08 14:32:00 -
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          Bump.
  Anyone know what these are used for? There are buy orders for them, so I assume they make something.
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          TheEasterBunny 
           
          
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        Posted - 2007.04.08 23:30:00 -
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          I have yet to find a use for them.
 
  I checked roughly 30 BPCs up on auction for T2 rigs, none of them use it either.
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          Lars Erlkonig 
          Caldari Free Trade Zone.
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.04.09 04:34:00 -
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            Originally by: CCP Jiekon Hammerhead said there is at least 1 blueprint that requires these items.
 
 
  I was guessing you meant CCP Hammer? I checked all his posts I could find since September and no luck there.
  Am I looking in the wrong place? Is Hammerhead someone else?
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          Tek'a Rain 
          Gallente Isis Technologies
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.04.10 10:51:00 -
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          bumpity
  and these things are stacking up!
 
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          Pinky Denmark 
          The Cursed Navy
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.04.10 13:01:00 -
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          It is mentioned by another Dev that CCP Hammer had them listed as component for at least 1 type of rig... He hasn't written it himself. - I'm a nice guy!! and OMG I love Team Tuxford for the speedbalancing... | 
      
      
      
          
          Lukas Rox 
          Torchwood Industries
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.04.10 22:18:00 -
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            Quote: MySQL found one result (Query was executed in 0.0007 second(s)) typeID: 25605 groupID: 754 typeName: Armor Plates
  SQL Query: SELECT * FROM `invtypes` WHERE `typeID` = 25605;
 
 
 
   Quote: MySQL returned empty recordset (zero records). (Query was executed in 0.0242 second(s)) SQL Query:  SELECT * FROM `tl2materialsfortypewithactivity` WHERE `requiredTypeID` = 25605;
 
  executed on SQL dump made on 2007 01 16.
  Sorry Hammerhead, no BPO uses this component :) --- http://eve.interkam.pl/eveships
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          Commoner 
          Caldari Emergent Chaos The Core Collective
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.04.11 11:22:00 -
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          You can build a very strong tinfoil hat using armorplates. 
  Seriously fix this... :P
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          Sacul 
          Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.04.11 11:58:00 -
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          Oh thats why i have allmost a thousand of them still; i never use them when building rigs.....I c. makes sense... 
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          CCP Chronotis 
           
           
  
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        Posted - 2007.04.11 19:20:00 -
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          this is a bug, they are not a part of any rig manufacture requirement, I will work through some solutions with Hammerhead as soon as we can which might include converting them to more useful components which is a nice fix for now.
 
 
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          Goumindong 
          Amarr Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.04.12 00:54:00 -
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            Originally by: CCP Chronotis this is a bug, they are not a part of any rig manufacture requirement, I will work through some solutions with Hammerhead as soon as we can which might include converting them to more useful components which is a nice fix for now.
 
 
 
 
  Some things you can do which might be a bit easier than converting them.
  1. Place NPC buy orders for them at a reasonable price
  2. Place NPC item exchange contracts for them with various amounts of salvage as the exchange.[possibly even small amounts of tech 2 salvage]
 
  Number 1 is an isk sink, which is bad, but number 2 will have a more evened effect on economy as there will be no sudden influx of a singular good but a more steady influx of whatever the market needs.
  Solution 1 and Solution 2 both do not require any changing of the loot tables either, so long as the NPC buy orders stay updated and the NPC contracts refresh. ---------------------------------------- Thou Shalt "Pew Pew" | 
      
      
      
          
          TheEasterBunny 
           
          
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        Posted - 2007.04.12 07:33:00 -
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          As they are fairly common salvage, they could potentially be used as another component in T1 rigs, but this complicates things and inflates rig prices a bit.
  Converting them into another existing item would just make that item crash, and removing them all together is right out.
 
  There are some, mostly armor rigs, whose descriptions lend themselves well to a solution involving their use, but they are very prevalent and should be used fairly extensively (in my opinion) or their value won't climb from where they are now.
 
  Though I'm sure there was an initial intention for them, as they were added, seeded, and created..... so I guess I'll just wait and see.
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