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Xiaodown
Dragons Of Redemption
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.25 15:53:00 -
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Living in Sansha space, I get a lot of armor plates dropped from salvage. Um... They don't build anything. They're a worthless drop, no blueprint requires them - they are not a material component for any item in the game, and they cannot be reprocessed.
But, they're taking away salvage item percentages from useful items like the nanite fluid and current pumps.
Can we either remove them from game, or replace them in the salvage equations with more useful components?
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Adia Celeris
Finis Lumen
The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2007.01.26 06:54:00 -
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This is a big pain in my side as well. I think I'm upwards of 1000 of these worthless items sitting in a hanger.
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Sarf
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Posted - 2007.01.27 01:37:00 -
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they are for some of the T2 rigs.
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Jiekon
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Posted - 2007.01.28 23:46:00 -
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Hammerhead said there is at least 1 blueprint that requires these items.
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Posted - 2007.01.28 23:46:00 -
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Hammerhead said there is at least 1 blueprint that requires these items.
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Akhtar Leon
Murientor Tribe
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.01.30 10:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Jiekon
Hammerhead said there is at least 1 blueprint that requires these items.
Can you please tell us witch one? I checked all T1 Rig BPO's and none requires them.
And Saref .. for T2 there are Intact Armor Plates
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Lumelame
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Posted - 2007.01.30 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Jiekon
Hammerhead said there is at least 1 blueprint that requires these items.
Humm, sorry but ... no
I think, it's a Dev mistake.
Logicaly, armor plate needs to be a salvage componant for Anti (EM, Explosive, Kinectic and Thermic) Pump Rig, replacing the contaminated nanite compound.
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Tanis Bastar
Caldari
Interstitial Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.01.30 17:21:00 -
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I have seen this question raised many times, and no one has been able to point to a specific BP that uses these things. And still no dev response...
Has anyone bothered to look after the Jan 30 patch to see if they can be used by some kind of BP now?
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Akhtar Leon
Murientor Tribe
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.01.31 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tanis Bastar
I have seen this question raised many times, and no one has been able to point to a specific BP that uses these things. And still no dev response...
Has anyone bothered to look after the Jan 30 patch to see if they can be used by some kind of BP now?
Rised this question on 3 december ... checked after 30 ian as well .. nothing changed .. by the name and faction the should be used for armor rigs, on the other hand considering all the faction relation to modules is strange that cap rigs don't require Amarr/Sansha rig parts.
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Leitari
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.02 07:09:00 -
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Silly devsies. Just keep stacking up them armor plates, they'll find a use for them eventually. Altho I'd love the option of adding extra armor plates to my hurricane... that wouldnt be too bad.  This is probably just a "minor" glitch :)
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Simon Illian
Caldari
Section XIII
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.02.02 09:39:00 -
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Now Angel loot them, fine :D
it's liek "scrap metal" but with another name ?
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Max Kentarii
Nordic Endeavour
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Posted - 2007.02.02 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Simon Illian
Now Angel loot them, fine :D
it's liek "scrap metal" but with another name ?
Scrap metal can be reprocessed with the right skills.. so Armor Plates < Metal Scraps.
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D'onryu Shoqui
Vengeance of the Fallen
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.02 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: Jiekon
Hammerhead said there is at least 1 blueprint that requires these items.
probably just not seeded yet 
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Posted - 2007.02.02 20:10:00 -
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they are now required in one BPO i spotted it ( tech 2 ones folks check them)
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.02.02 20:45:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 02/02/2007 20:41:52
Checked them all, item by item, blueprint by blueprint, item ID by item ID using grismar's showinfo from the latest export.
AT THE MOMENT, no T1 rig available now uses armor plates, no T2 rig inventable uses intact armor plates.
Originally by: Jiekon
Hammerhead said there is at least 1 blueprint that requires these items.
Lies, lies, outright lies ! 
As they say, "proof or sthu" 
Item ID please (for the BP) 
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Kellaen
Gallente
Teeth Of The Hydra
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Posted - 2007.02.04 01:19:00 -
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Even if they are in T2 rig bpo's, the drop rate is so high this trash is more akin to a T1 drop then a T2.
Fix this please.
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Salvis Tallan
Gallente
Team Condor
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Posted - 2007.02.04 04:15:00 -
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I must also agree that according to the datafiles they are not used for anything. If there have been added in, Can we please please get updated datafiles?
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Akhtar Leon
Murientor Tribe
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.04.04 09:15:00 -
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bump ... to Dev's ....
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Umbriele
Gallente
Natural Inventions
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Posted - 2007.04.05 07:08:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Jiekon
Hammerhead said there is at least 1 blueprint that requires these items.
No. Unless you tell us wich is.
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Phillipe d'Rothschild
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Posted - 2007.04.08 14:32:00 -
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Bump.
Anyone know what these are used for? There are buy orders for them, so I assume they make something.
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TheEasterBunny
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Posted - 2007.04.08 23:30:00 -
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I have yet to find a use for them.
I checked roughly 30 BPCs up on auction for T2 rigs, none of them use it either.
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Lars Erlkonig
Caldari
Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2007.04.09 04:34:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Jiekon
Hammerhead said there is at least 1 blueprint that requires these items.
I was guessing you meant CCP Hammer? I checked all his posts I could find since September and no luck there.
Am I looking in the wrong place? Is Hammerhead someone else?
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Tek'a Rain
Gallente
Isis Technologies
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Posted - 2007.04.10 10:51:00 -
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bumpity
and these things are stacking up!
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Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy
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Posted - 2007.04.10 13:01:00 -
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It is mentioned by another Dev that CCP Hammer had them listed as component for at least 1 type of rig... He hasn't written it himself.
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Lukas Rox
Torchwood Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.10 22:18:00 -
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Quote:
MySQL found one result (Query was executed in 0.0007 second(s))
typeID: 25605 groupID: 754 typeName: Armor Plates
SQL Query:
SELECT * FROM `invtypes` WHERE `typeID` = 25605;
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MySQL returned empty recordset (zero records). (Query was executed in 0.0242 second(s))
SQL Query:
SELECT * FROM `tl2materialsfortypewithactivity` WHERE `requiredTypeID` = 25605;
executed on SQL dump made on 2007 01 16.
Sorry Hammerhead, no BPO uses this component :)
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Commoner
Caldari
Emergent Chaos
The Core Collective
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Posted - 2007.04.11 11:22:00 -
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You can build a very strong tinfoil hat using armorplates.
Seriously fix this... :P
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Sacul
Wreckless Abandon
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.11 11:58:00 -
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Oh thats why i have allmost a thousand of them still; i never use them when building rigs.....I c. makes sense...
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CCP Chronotis
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Posted - 2007.04.11 19:20:00 -
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this is a bug, they are not a part of any rig manufacture requirement, I will work through some solutions with Hammerhead as soon as we can which might include converting them to more useful components which is a nice fix for now.
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Goumindong
Amarr
Merch Industrial
We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.04.12 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Chronotis
this is a bug, they are not a part of any rig manufacture requirement, I will work through some solutions with Hammerhead as soon as we can which might include converting them to more useful components which is a nice fix for now.
Some things you can do which might be a bit easier than converting them.
1. Place NPC buy orders for them at a reasonable price
2. Place NPC item exchange contracts for them with various amounts of salvage as the exchange.[possibly even small amounts of tech 2 salvage]
Number 1 is an isk sink, which is bad, but number 2 will have a more evened effect on economy as there will be no sudden influx of a singular good but a more steady influx of whatever the market needs.
Solution 1 and Solution 2 both do not require any changing of the loot tables either, so long as the NPC buy orders stay updated and the NPC contracts refresh.
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TheEasterBunny
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Posted - 2007.04.12 07:33:00 -
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As they are fairly common salvage, they could potentially be used as another component in T1 rigs, but this complicates things and inflates rig prices a bit.
Converting them into another existing item would just make that item crash, and removing them all together is right out.
There are some, mostly armor rigs, whose descriptions lend themselves well to a solution involving their use, but they are very prevalent and should be used fairly extensively (in my opinion) or their value won't climb from where they are now.
Though I'm sure there was an initial intention for them, as they were added, seeded, and created..... so I guess I'll just wait and see.
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Lars Erlkonig
Caldari
Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2007.04.12 12:24:00 -
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Odd as this may sound, how about a set of rigs to make structure tanking viable. massively reduced cycle time on hull reps, bonus to total hull HP, hull rep bonus, etc. That way you're not artificially effecting the current rig market. Also gives people another area to experiment with.
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Auron Shadowbane
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Posted - 2007.04.19 07:50:00 -
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what about a new rig that adds a lowslot and takes 100-200 calibation?
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Jayne Doe
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Posted - 2007.05.14 13:43:00 -
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I have *****ed it.....
Shield rigs use ward consoles or emitters
Armor only uses nanite.
I think the devs screwed up and just forgot to implement them on armor rigs as the alternate parts for half the bp's
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Jayne Doe
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Posted - 2007.05.14 13:44:00 -
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and c-r-a-c-k-e-d is not a swearword but blanking it out makes it look like i wrote something worse... sort it out lol
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Ikkajo
Minmatar
Illudium Space Products
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Posted - 2007.05.14 15:32:00 -
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I'll add my support to the suggestion that the Nanite compound gets removed from armour pump rigs and replaced with the armour plates. That's the most logical and the drop rates match about the shield emitter drop rate, so that would make the rig rarity about the same.
If you are going to do this, give everyone a lot of notice beforehand so that we can either stockpile or pull our existing rigs off the manufacturing.
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CCP Chronotis
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Posted - 2007.05.14 19:26:00 -
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Edited by: CCP Chronotis on 14/05/2007 19:24:11
the charred micro circuits / micro circuits manufacture requirement on armor rigs was swapped for armor plates / intact armor plates in kali 2.
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr
The Littlest Hobos
Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.05.14 20:14:00 -
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Can we also get deadspace officer wreaks fixed along with player battelcuiser wreaks, geting a "you dont have 160 cargo open" masage every time you whant to salvage is anoying
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Bermag
Point-Zero
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Posted - 2007.05.15 11:15:00 -
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Edited by: Bermag on 15/05/2007 11:13:59
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
Edited by: CCP Chronotis on 14/05/2007 19:24:11
the charred micro circuits / micro circuits manufacture requirement on armor rigs was swapped for armor plates / intact armor plates in kali 2.
That is good, but how about swapping them for Fried Interface Circuits rather than Charred Micro circuits?
CMCs is worth a lot less than other circuit salvage because the rigs they are used in are usually not that popular. CMC are worth 1/10 of Fried Interface circuits. If Armor plates replace CMCs then CMCs will be worth even less than they are today.
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