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Captain Campion Amarr Dark Horizons	Posted - 2007.01.25 21:41:00 - [1] When using a smartbomb for the first time a player receives a warning message, indicating that using a smartbomb could cause concord to attack. Presumably this is because the smartbomb also damages non-target objects. My question is, WHAT EXACTLY should not be hit with a smartbomb?
Maeltstome	Posted - 2007.01.25 21:44:00 - [2] anything that normally would get you concord'd through normal fire.
Sector Merchant	Posted - 2007.01.25 21:51:00 - [3] Go fire a smartbomb in empire at a gate. See what happens.
Bardi MecAuldnis Amarr Pirates of Destruction Union	Posted - 2007.01.25 21:52:00 - [4] Edited by: Bardi MecAuldnis on 25/01/2007 21:49:41 Ships, cans, stations, gates, sentry guns, your neighbor's dog, drones, EVERYTHING. Edit: I can't remember if I received an aggression flag or a global criminal flag for firing at an asteroid. --- Hey hey let's go kenka suru! Taisetsuna mono protect my balls! Boku ga warui so lets fighting! LET'S FIGHTING LOVE!!!
Captain Campion Amarr Dark Horizons	Posted - 2007.01.26 21:22:00 - [5] who's ships and cans?
Jaerl Caldari	Posted - 2007.01.26 21:24:00 - [6] Smartbombing something = attacking it, whether intended or not, it'll get hit if it's within the blast radius. ANYTHING that you would get CONCORDed for shoving a heavy missile (or other) at, same rules apply with smartbomb. Basically, don't smartbomb at gates, stations, next to players, etc... Accepting forum sigs and other graphics requests! Contact me!
ArtemisEntreri Turbulent	Posted - 2007.01.26 21:39:00 - [7] Anything that doesn't belong to you or the corp, you can smartbomb your corpmates and their drones.
Christopher Dalran	Posted - 2007.01.26 21:56:00 - [8] Don't use smartbombs in empire space, there are just too many opportunities to accidentally hit someone who will get you concorded.
Jarjar exscape corporation	Posted - 2007.01.26 22:41:00 - [9] Originally by: Christopher Dalran Don't use smartbombs in empire space, there are just too many opportunities to accidentally hit someone who will get you concorded. Agreed. Or, to be precise, don't use them in 0.5+ and don't use them at gates/stations in lowsec. I think that even hitting a gangmates wreck (from a mission, etc) will get CONCORD on your ass. If not, then that only applied after the gangmate docked.
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.01.26 22:57:00 - [10] Originally by: Bardi MecAuldnis Edited by: Bardi MecAuldnis on 25/01/2007 21:49:41 Ships, cans, stations, gates, sentry guns, your neighbor's dog, drones, EVERYTHING. Edit: I can't remember if I received an aggression flag or a global criminal flag for firing at an asteroid. no flags for firing at asteroids. ---------------------------------------- Thou Shalt "Pew Pew"
Devon Ashur	Posted - 2007.01.26 23:07:00 - [11] I should take the opportunity to point out that hitting a Corp Mate can get you nailed. When helping out a fellow Corp Member on a mission, I followed him through the Warp Gate, and dropped out right in the middle of one of his Smart Bomb explosions. While I only took a tiny amount of shield damage, the next thing we knew, CONCORD appeared and blew my friend to radar chaff.
Admiral Keyes Minmatar Ooops Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.26 23:08:00 - [12] Can anyone confirm if you get killed by concord if you hit a beacon in a mission with a smartbomb. I use SB's in empire often but i've never known if hitting a beacon gets you killed or not. ----------------------------------- Minmatar Republic ~ "In Rust we Trust"
William McCracken	Posted - 2007.01.26 23:08:00 - [13] Are there any problems using one in a mission? I'm working up a load-out for my howitzer armed Thrasher where I've got a smart-bomb fitted for dealing with close-in orbiting Serps. William McC racken
Max Hardcase Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.01.26 23:17:00 - [14] Also if you have a T2 fitted hyperion with 3 rigs, never ever ever move the smartbomb to a new hotkey on the UI, while in Empire. Buddy did this.
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.27 00:01:00 - [15] Smartbombs, aren't. Damage anything, anything at all that's not a 'valid target' in empire (e.g. because of war, being a 'shootable' or whatever) and Concord will be giving you a brand new shiny salvage resource.
Neothas	Posted - 2007.01.27 01:41:00 - [16] Originally by: Devon Ashur I should take the opportunity to point out that hitting a Corp Mate can get you nailed. When helping out a fellow Corp Member on a mission, I followed him through the Warp Gate, and dropped out right in the middle of one of his Smart Bomb explosions. While I only took a tiny amount of shield damage, the next thing we knew, CONCORD appeared and blew my friend to radar chaff. Very odd, because I've hit corp mates using smart bombs before while doing lvl 4's and didn't have anything happen. Where you also grouped at the time, or ungrouped flying together?
TresheR Fire Mandrill Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.27 13:32:00 - [17] You probably hit a structure or something then. There is no way concord will come in for shooting a corpmate, not even with a smartbomb.
Captain Campion Amarr Dark Horizons	Posted - 2007.01.27 18:16:00 - [18] there's definitely some uncertainty on this point. could someone post a definitive guide to smartbombs?
Jas Dor Minmatar	Posted - 2007.01.27 20:06:00 - [19] Originally by: Max Hardcase Also if you have a T2 fitted hyperion with 3 rigs, never ever ever move the smartbomb to a new hotkey on the UI, while in Empire. Buddy did this. You do know you can offline mods while in space right. Names, Dates, Times, Engagements, Losses, Op-Tempo or STFU!
Majin82 Caldari g guild	Posted - 2007.01.27 20:14:00 - [20] Edited by: Majin82 on 27/01/2007 20:12:43 Originally by: Captain Campion there's definitely some uncertainty on this point. could someone post a definitive guide to smartbombs? Smartbombing the following will get you Concored In Empire - Players not in your Corp who are in your gang - Stargates - Stations - Cans not belonging to you or your corp - Anyone who is not in your corp - Abandoned Ships not claimed by you (inculding Ibis, shuttles, ect.) Smartbombing the Following is Okay in Empire - Corp Mates - Anything in a Deadspace mission, inculding beacons, acceleration gates, and NPC structures that would give you the warning message if you wanted to shoot them. - Asteroids in a Belt - The Systems Star I have first hand knowledge of Smartbomb dos and don'ts ------------------------------------- The difference between a Pirate and an Anti-Pirate is that an Anti-Pirate fights ships fitted with guns! Passive Drake For The Win
Kyreax Gallente Deepspace Exploration Biscuit Repair Associates	Posted - 2007.01.27 20:46:00 - [21] Saw a couple corpmates (not My corp, tho) testing smartbomb setups on each other in battleships by a planet in .9 sec. decided just to flt close to them. pop pop concord provided me with a couple of shiny wrecks Smartbombs+empire=bad
Admiral Keyes Minmatar Ooops Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.27 20:55:00 - [22] Originally by: Majin82 Smartbombing the following will get you Concored In Empire - Players not in your Corp who are in your gang - Stargates - Stations - Cans not belonging to you or your corp - Anyone who is not in your corp - Abandoned Ships not claimed by you (inculding Ibis, shuttles, ect.) Smartbombing the Following is Okay in Empire - Corp Mates - Anything in a Deadspace mission, inculding beacons, acceleration gates, and NPC structures that would give you the warning message if you wanted to shoot them. - Asteroids in a Belt - The Systems Star I have first hand knowledge of Smartbomb dos and don'ts Your sir. Are a star! Now i dont have to panic about "argh must get at least 6751m away from that beacon before the swarm of amarr navy webs me" ----------------------------------- Minmatar Republic ~ "In Rust we Trust"
Captain Campion Amarr Dark Horizons	Posted - 2007.01.27 21:15:00 - [23] that's very helpful, and answers my original question. there seems to be some disagreement on whether smartbombing corpmates is ok or not?

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