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Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.12.08 05:11:00 -
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Signed -
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Crimsonjade
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Posted - 2003.12.08 05:50:00 -
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To all of you clever people out there... it is call "context". 
No pain, no palm; no thorns, no throne; no gall, no glory; no cross, no crown.
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Centuri
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Posted - 2003.12.08 06:46:00 -
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Damn, it's the morning after and i'm still roflmao all over the place about these recordings , I learned more about what illnesses our members had than any "evidence" against us.       
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Valorian
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Posted - 2003.12.08 10:29:00 -
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Redemption Inc,
you might want to prepare for when TAOSP... oops Evolution decide to take you apart for the ex-OC members you have. BTW is the rumour I heard that you ended up with EV's old territory (strip mined) in the re-districting true?
An NPC Corporation is not the pilot of its ships and structures! |

mooman
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Posted - 2003.12.08 12:22:00 -
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TIvian will you plz put them pom poms and cheer leading skirt away? are you forgetting you in a different corp ? :P |

Dreez
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Posted - 2003.12.08 12:53:00 -
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Yes, that is true. Redemtion ended up with the old EV-space and it was completely drained of minerals.
Why they didnt report EV to the SA-Coucil we can only guess, i belive that they tought it was best for the survivial of the Corp - and so they just bent over and took it up the Tail pipe.
'Trying to argue logically with Evol is like trying to teach a pig to dance. It only makes you look foolish and really annoys the pig ' - Duke Droklar [OC]
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Centuri
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Posted - 2003.12.08 13:14:00 -
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Edited by: Centuri on 08/12/2003 13:18:01 Edited by: Centuri on 08/12/2003 13:16:39
Quote: TIvian will you plz put them pom poms and cheer leading skirt away? are you forgetting you in a different corp ? :P
Maybe because he see what bull**** the SA is spurting out? I mean this official post by the SA is supposed to be the nail in the coffin, the last word on the matter, to show the eve public without any doubt that we OC are baaad bad people who plotted against the SA when infact it doen't prove squat.
Rec1- Duke explaining to a member why we are giving into the SA councils demands. That's all I hear, i hear nothing about "OC giving into the demands for now just to wait till later to attack", absolutely nothing.
Rec10- Shows how we were mining OUR own systems before the deadline, omfg kick them out now! null
Rec11- The ONLY line that refers to a shadow corp in this recording is "the shadow corp will kick their asses". Now what does this mean? Maybe OC was planning to make a "shadow corp" against CA yes CA!?!, so that shadow corp could wage war on those CA who operated in sec systems with no sec status loss and no interference from concord or sentry guns? No, but you guys were too supicious of us to think of that one eh?
Personally, I'm extremely disappointed with with the rest of the SA, especially in MASS. I thought they would have the balls not to let EV be the political wolf that it is and stand alongside us. I don't know how any of the alliance members could have deduced all those wild claims from those recordings. The mind boggles.
Oh well, I guess SA will have to learn, through spilled blood, their mistakes. OC will open their eyes. We've had dozens of opportunites to attack SA targets that were not EV/SW so far. I'd suggest anyone wanting to farm mine in SA now not to go ANYWHERE without at least 10 man BS supporting you, for that will be the only occasion when you will really be safe from our wolves. SA members, forget about mining/farming anymore, it aint gonna be worth it.  
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.12.08 13:25:00 -
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Seems like Everlasing Greed finally got what they wanted. Josh gets to mine more bistot, yeah!!!! I bet he nearly messed himself when he learned that.
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2003.12.08 15:22:00 -
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Quote: Signed Stavros Owner of teh lassie
Now that's what this issue's been missing. What ARE lassie's thoughts on this matter?
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |

Iluyen
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Posted - 2003.12.09 10:34:00 -
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Quote: To all of you clever people out there... it is call "context". 
context doesnt matter, duke said so when they released the CA-tapes:)
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Laby
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Posted - 2003.12.09 16:09:00 -
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Nyquil rocks! http://laby.50megs.com/images/signature.jpg |

N'Fran D'Larn
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Posted - 2003.12.10 02:41:00 -
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I'm still laughing at Stavros, at least he sometime he's sometime funny . You need to ass "Grand Pooh-Bah" in there somewhere.
All the rest, I got no negatives to add here, but the next few weeks are going to be lots of fun!
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PoXiE
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Posted - 2003.12.10 03:21:00 -
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red corsairs sign and agree to all terms above.
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Duke Droklar
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Posted - 2003.12.10 04:14:00 -
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Quote: EV signs and will protect stain from this threat. -[EV]Civ
I would like to point out that OC has been very selective in its attacks. As many in the SA now have witnessed, OC forces passed them by without attacking although we had the forces to easily have done so.
So please don't try and say "you're protecting them" as EV was nowhere to be able to help them. It was OC who left them in peace by our choice. It is still difficult for us to target many that we have considered friends and still hold out hope that they will see the truth.
Those that have actively fielded troops against us OR are operating within our RPS-OK border will be considered hostile and valid targets. There may come a time when we lose that hope and must begin striking at the "support" corps within the SA.
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Ardanwen
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Posted - 2003.12.10 10:04:00 -
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Quote:
Those that have actively fielded troops against us OR are operating within our RPS-OK border will be considered hostile and valid targets. There may come a time when we lose that hope and must begin striking at the "support" corps within the SA.
So basically you are saying that you'll only attack part of stain but that later when that part is weakened enough you'll attack the rest anyway even if you leave them alone now. Sounds to me that it would be better if the whole of stain did a full assault on you now in stead of letting you pick them off one at a time.
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Methos
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Posted - 2003.12.10 11:31:00 -
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I think Duke's got the right idea. The last bit about support corps is easy to figure out. If they stay on the fences and dont push this injustice then they will be fine but, if they are activly helping fight them then its a fair game. Personaly, I wouldnt wait to strike at the "support" corps of the SA. I would take them out early, fast, with prejudice and with no warning. This is after all a war not a tea party. I am sure OC could do some dmg to most of the corps in SA but they have not as of yet. That alone should show the character of the OC unlike the treacherous actions of some others who I dont really need to name. Those in the SA should read my Quote it has been around and true for a couple thousand years. 
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." ARISTOTLE |

Duke Droklar
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Posted - 2003.12.10 13:43:00 -
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Ardanwen: You could read it that way but to clarify: OC NEVER wanted to or intended to attack anyone but SW and EV for their use of shadow corps against us which they did BEFORE their were issues between OC and the SA. Therefore we are attempting to limit our hostilities in a final attempt to PROVE to the SA corps that it was in fact EV and SW that have betrayed the alliance and not OC. EV has been plotting and using underhanded tactics against OC since the day they arrived in Stain and SW began doing so in the recent past.
Methos: We fully understand that this puts us at a disadvantage and so does EV. We have noticed lately that EV is not to be found in Stain unless they are in large SW/EV fleets. They have obviously moved most of their operations out of Stain realizing our reluctance to attack the other SA corps.
We will not be able to hold back our attacks forever in light of this fact. We do not want to attack these other SA corps but we may be forced to weaken their infrastructure and PROVE to them that EV and SW cannot protect them as he claimed. It was OC that through offensive presure helped preserved the overall peace they enjoyed within stain for the past couple months. Not to say that defenses did not as well with MASS spearheading that front.
Everyone knows that we could have destroyed many more BS's that were caught by suprise by OC forces but we chose not to. Everyone knows that this would have caused greater presure within the SA council but we chose not to utilize that advantage.
Btw, that was a great quote... =S=
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Azure Skyclad
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Posted - 2003.12.10 14:59:00 -
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Pseudo legal bollox incoming. These are my opinions. Not official BSC policy/stance...Zaphod does that cack"
From what i've read here it seems like a load of ****z to me.
If you signed up to this then you've not really looked into what you're signing up for or you stand to gain something from the betrayal.
Don't know much about any of you but from whats been presented here...this agreement to protect Stain against the "enemy" is a nice big cack sandwich and you've queued up for a morsel.
My business? No Why did i post? A) Public forum squire! B) Think of a better rebuttal than "What business is it of yours?"
Best of luck OC
"....wonder if he means old Stavros Kenobi........lives out in Stain. Kind of a strange old hermit. They say he's ginger"
La Maison de tous Les Plaisirs Star Fraction http://www.voodoorockers.co.uk/ |

Centuri
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Posted - 2003.12.10 15:14:00 -
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Edited by: Centuri on 10/12/2003 15:18:40 Exactly Azure. Logical reasoning like yours seems to be in short supply within the SA at the moment. Infact no I retract that, SA has leadership that can look at information objectively and figure out if it's bull or legitimate intel on which to base their decisions, but choose not to use it.
It "seems" that the SA council decided to base their extremely serious decisions of the Alliance upon intel which proves absolutely NOTHING! I say "seems" because no other reasons have been given. I can only assume that there are other motives,
Now I fail to believe that an alliance can choose intel of as poor a quality and reliability as these recordings and base their policy upon them.
Would the alliance like to state the real reason why these accusations were brought upon OC. Is it because EV is the politcal wolf that we say and none of council are willing to risk loosing their nice mining territories standing up to them maybe?
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