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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.12.15 00:54:00 -
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Sorry if the previous post is a generalization, I mean it is generalization, there should also be a catagory A, aka 'other' the ones that share other view points thats not on the red to blue political spectrograph in america.
This generalization is to the point that you can almost bring up every possible political platform and segerate it and catagorize it into the five available.
Liberals mostly think that Coservatives and Conservative Extremist are one and the same. The same can be said from the flip side.
If you do want my bias however, Extreme Liberals only plan for human extinction. At least the conservatives are trying to figure a way to 'conserve' the species.
As for art direction
I dont think eve would win any US awards, Euro definetly though.
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Selinate
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Posted - 2011.12.15 00:55:00 -
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Lili Lu wrote:Beaches wrote:Also, conservatives can be libertarians or a mix. See: Ron Paul Liberals hate 'liberty' as it were and believe that liberty is a threat to government which is there to make sure people eat, speak and behave properly see: "1984" George Orwell. You know, I don't see crusading leftists on these forums. Why do we see so many crusading right wingers like you? Please, spout this **** somewhere else. The OP was about some dweeb's nominations for art awards in video games. Have you addressed anything about the OP link other than where it came from? No. Why not? Actually, the video and the clips it showed was rather well done. However, it is easy to just look at what was on the market and had mass appeal and then present those for an art award. Eve may some day gain recognition from some program like this. Whether that would be a good thing is debateable.
Because, they've been brainwashed by Fox News and the Conservative Right has gone MUCHO extremo in the past few years, with their politicians bludgeoning the biggest most absolutely nonsensical bullshit I've ever seen. Not all left wingers are awesome, either, and I tend to agree with certain parts of both conservative/republican viewpoints and liberal/democratic viewpoints, but holy ****, Republicans have gone bat **** crazy. Just look at their current candidates for being the one to run against Obama this year. WTF, did they find these people in the looney bin?
Oh, no, wait, it's just the politicians molding their message to fit the right-wing's nutjobs logic this time... |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.12.15 01:32:00 -
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Selinate wrote:
Because, they've been brainwashed by Fox News and the Conservative Right has gone MUCHO extremo in the past few years, with their politicians bludgeoning the biggest most absolutely nonsensical bullshit I've ever seen. Not all left wingers are awesome, either, and I tend to agree with certain parts of both conservative/republican viewpoints and liberal/democratic viewpoints, but holy ****, Republicans have gone bat **** crazy. Just look at their current candidates for being the one to run against Obama this year. WTF, did they find these people in the looney bin?
Oh, no, wait, it's just the politicians molding their message to fit the right-wing's nutjobs logic this time...
If conservatives where everything the extreme liberals think they where, the liberals would all be shot dead by now.
Though there is this nice gem introduced to me not to long ago.
Huxley Vs Orwell
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Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
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Posted - 2011.12.15 01:38:00 -
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holy ****. how the **** did this thread went from bleh thread about a game award to a politics discussion?
you people have too much free time ffs. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.12.15 01:40:00 -
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Grimpak wrote:holy ****. how the **** did this thread went from bleh thread about a game award to a politics discussion?
you people have too much free time ffs.
I know right?
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How2FoldSoup
Hull Tanking Elitists
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Posted - 2011.12.15 01:56:00 -
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Too bad i didn't make any popcorn.
Great read everyone, its quite entertaining. |
Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
292
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Posted - 2011.12.15 02:16:00 -
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The Liberal vs. Conservative is designed to keep the public in eternal strife so that true political and personal economical agendas can be met while keeping the general population confused and fighting over trivial maters. The fact that news is no longer reported and instead the "news networks" design their programming based on what brings in watchers.
MSNBC = Liberal Lefters FOX News = Conservative Right Wingers
Both sets of groups are lied to and told what they want to hear and follow the political agenda that supports their party. Not what is actually the truth or open, objective thought.
The real sad thing is, from both sides they argue that freedom of speech, thought and press are at the core of what makes America so great.
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Dorian Tormak
P0ON
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Posted - 2011.12.15 02:20:00 -
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Guys guys guys,
Games aren't meant for talking about RL politics, guys... that's why we've got in-game politics.
Video games are meant for partying, having fun, they're about sex and violence and drugs and uber-culture.
Talking about poliitics on a game forum is like... starting a moronic argument at a party...
Thereby killing the party.
Which makes you a party-pooper.
So instead of talking about your itty bitty economic science or whatever the **** you're gonna start talking about, do a little bit of philosophy, smoke a jeffrey and stroke the furry wall. And do some pvp.
Otherwise it's gonna be a sausage-fest up in here,
and you'll go to bed alone.
WTF this post doesn't make any sense...
Or does it? ...."and I've been fighting back ever since...." |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.12.15 02:31:00 -
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Well when you start involving politics in the affairs of video games such as bann hamemring and sue fest like it is in austrialia or that one stupid ex floridian laywer.
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Hainnz
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.15 02:35:00 -
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Holy crap, I wish I could downvote threads on this forum. |
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Selinate
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Posted - 2011.12.15 02:40:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:If conservatives where everything the extreme liberals think they where, the liberals would all be shot dead by now. Though there is this nice gem introduced to me not to long ago. Huxley Vs Orwell
Gay soldier gets booed at a republican debate after asking if they would reverse Don't ask don't tell, even though he's currently serving in Afghanistan. JUST BECAUSE HE'S GAY.
Applause and cheers following an emphatic "YEAH!" from the crowd erupts at a republican debate when the host asked one of the candidates if a person should simply die if they have a curable fatal disease because they don't have health insurance.
I'm sorry, did I miss something? It's disgusting. Again, I'm not really democrat or republican in terms of ideals, but WOW, just wow. All I have to do is turn on a republican debate and just sit in awe of the absolute stupidity of what the candidates say just to please the extremists who sit in the crowd...
Any who, I give up on this, it always ends the same with some right-wing nut job spewing out conspiracy theories about the liberal media and something that sounds a lot like cold war propaganda.
On topic with the thread, Eve's art is terrible for the most part, especially compared to those games, so I agree with leaving it off the list... |
Aggressive Nutmeg
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Posted - 2011.12.15 02:46:00 -
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Ignoring lay person, mainstream characterisations of political issues.
EVE art isn't that fantastic. It's a bit sparse and minimalist, if anything. Why is anyone surprised it's not winning awards? I prefer it this way. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.12.15 02:52:00 -
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Ahem any sexual relations in the military with another person on the job or on military property is a dissimissable offense. Ask all those heterosexual incidents on the job and how long they get to stayed afterwards, not a single one of them.
In an ideal world health insurance wouldnt be needed to pay for bodily repairs. Paying out of pocket would be feasible and sufficent..
Now incarna and dust are likely to win more art awards than eve sadly.
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Nahrud Zirud
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.15 02:53:00 -
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to be fair i hate to tell you but eve isnt the best art in the industry. it is in the top 20 for sure but it isnt the best. sorry about your bubble btw |
First Lieutenant Dan
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2011.12.15 02:54:00 -
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sodrunk.com? |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
298
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Posted - 2011.12.15 02:57:00 -
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Remember:
If you don't take an interest in politics, the politicians will take in interest (in robbing) you.
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Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
416
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Posted - 2011.12.15 04:24:00 -
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Whats MSNBC? I thought that we had stopped calling it MSN and were calling it Windows Live Messenger now. Rated ARG for Pirates. **** you. |
Merovee
Gorthaur Legion Of Mordor
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Posted - 2011.12.15 05:31:00 -
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You all live with your a$$es up your head. The Empire still rules the waves, anyone else who has never been a nation of this Empire are on the outside looking in. Any nation that tries to challenge our supremacy will be squished.
Have a nice day. |
Nullbeard Rager
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2011.12.15 05:39:00 -
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First Lieutenant Dan wrote:Nice try, 4/10. Almost a 6/10, but I caught you early before the bridge tolls could be collected.
It took eve 7-8 years to do what these guys did in less than 2. MOTHERFUCK yourself. Knee arrows and crazy chick > Space dolls.
Give me your candy plz.
I've got ice cream...
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First Lieutenant Dan
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2011.12.15 05:43:00 -
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WHERE D:? |
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First Lieutenant Dan
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2011.12.15 05:50:00 -
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You've gotten me pondering life. Best part of movie? 1:30 to 1:32 Play it over and over again and you will smiles. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
2061
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Posted - 2011.12.15 06:10:00 -
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I'm sorry for going on topic butGǪmkint wrote:+1 for focusing on art instead of graphics -1 for focusing on cutscenes and trailers rather than gameplay
Has CCP really done anything about it's art in the past few years? All I'm seeing is graphics. GǪyes, a lot of the post-trinity model and texturing updates were also art updates.
We've gone from a technicolour universe into one that's more dark and brooding, with a more consistent theme in the looks of the empires, and a sliding scale of GÇ£darknessGÇ¥ to represent how you move away from the civilised areas. Also, some of the model updates have moved (ever so slightly) towards more defined shapes for each faction GÇö Caldari have become more solid bulk and (yes) more symmetrical; Gallente have become even more curved than before; Amarr have become (again, ever so slghtly) more about large, sharply defined surfaces; MinmatarGǪ haven't change much GÇö maybe a tendency to go for more/smaller solar panels and pieces of scaffolding, rather than the big and very obvious bits they had before.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
electrostatus
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.15 06:17:00 -
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So what exactly is the video about? PI Profit Calculator: calculates your profits and taxes of any PI product depending on how you built them! |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
223
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Posted - 2011.12.15 06:37:00 -
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Any amount of eye-candy does not define the playability and longivity of a PC or console game. Sure, it's great to see and say "Wow, that looks awesome!" but seriously now, you play a game like that for what, at most, 6 months if that at all.
Eve may not have the eye-popping eye-candy of modern games, but the interaction, the playability, those are the important success factors.
Long live EvE.
(As for the political discussion in this thread, Holy Mother of God!!)
o/ The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |
Geoscape
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2011.12.15 06:39:00 -
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What's this thread about? |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
298
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Posted - 2011.12.15 07:27:00 -
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My theory is that this game nods to that scene from Soilent Green where the old dude is in that big room looking at nice videos and hearing that nice music while he dies.
You got good graphics, nice space music - and you get ganked to it.
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knobber Jobbler
United Highsec Front The 99 Percent
12
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Posted - 2011.12.15 09:56:00 -
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Riedle wrote:Buzzmong wrote:Beaches wrote:MSNBC? Thank your lucky stars they haven't. Those liberal idiots would have this game shut down. Do you know how I know you're an American? For some reason you chaps have a very weird idea about liberal people, probably the fault of your mass media or schools, but you seem to think they're out to get you. In short, anyone who is actually properly liberal wouldn't bat an eyelid about Eve, infact they'd probably encourage it. Do you know how I know your European? Because you fail to understand the difference between today's statist, victimhood, life owes me a living 'liberals' and yesterdays more libertarian bent true liberal that was in favour of everything pretty much as long as it didn't hurt anyone else. In America when they mention the word 'liberal' they are talking about the former NOT the latter as you seem to refer them to. Read up and keep up and you will be able to determine these nuances yourself and not embarass yourself in public with gross stereotyping a nation of 320 million people purely because of your arrongance on the subject. Riedle
They sound like arch conservatives than liberals. The only people who ever want to ban anything are either far right or far left because it conflicts with there view of the world; usually those on the right more than the left.
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Gealbhan
Celestial Horizon Corp. Flatline.
94
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Posted - 2011.12.15 10:09:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:For all you non americans there are 5 political flavors to be found and a mix of each.
1 Extreme Conservatives - These mostly made up americans are the imagination of most liberals as people who would like to keep things like they where in 1800s. Liberals often label them as Rascist bigots and rich money bags and just more recently labeled them as domestic terrorists. Popular Example: Westburrow Baptist Church
2 Conservatives - People who generally dont like idea of suffering at the expense of less deserving people. Would rather make everyone work for what they earn. They also know that mankind will never learn its 'lesson' and always prepare for the time it fails its lesson in a very horrible manner, also recently labeled as domestic terrorist. Popular Examples: Glen Beck, Donald Trump.
3 IDGFs - Or independents that lost all faith in the government. Doesn't belive in its policies and definetly cant rely on it to solve thier own problems. Popular Examples: The average American telling Wallstreet Protestors to occupy a desk.
4 Liberals - People who belive mankind needs to learn its lesson and has a chance that could do so and belive in equality however knowing that not everyone is onboard for this they force this idea onto others via taxes and programs. Popular Examples: Wallstreet Protestors (mostly)
5 Extreme Liberals - People who belive in what liberals do to the point that they weave this intricate fantasy of world peace thats unshatterable up and beyond the point of getting killed by the very people that cannot share thier vision. They are also intolerant of anyone but an extreme Liberal. Popular Examples: Chris Mathews (though he may be breaking out of it depends how much more obama disspoints him)
And according to last breakdown from a liberal college in california. 10% in catagory 5 10% in catagory 4.5-4 20% in catagory 2 15% in catagory 1.5-2 5% in catagory 1 and 40% in IDGFs
In reality, most americans unless previewed as total idiots do not sterotypically fall entirely in any of the catagories. Expect most to be a mix between 2-4 leaning to any of the three catagories between.
To note MSNBC is a catagory 5 channel and should not be taken seriously Fox is 1-3 be careful they like to jump the gun on this channel. CNN is 3-2 they at least do some homework. ABC is oddly 3-2 they used to be 2 solely is probably the most american news channel there is. AP is very much a 3 and it should be high on the consideration list. BBC is a mixed bag depending on the topics. Sadder still to get more american news (as in different stories) out of BBC news than all the other american channels.
I'm gonna copy/paste this into a word doc and save it on my hd before it gets nuked by mods. +1 to you. |
Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum KUGUTSUMEN.
316
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Posted - 2011.12.15 10:15:00 -
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American politics are **** and are all the same. They are all ran by what ever special interest groups/lobbyist that contributes "campaign funding". |
Schnoo
The Schnoo
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Posted - 2011.12.15 10:16:00 -
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Regarding art and graphics, EVE's is rather dull tbh, it's got hundreds of systems that only differ in static background pictures. If you've ever watched any sci-fiction series/movies (or even just science fact documentaries) you would've known there's a lot more out there: black holes, multiple star systems, comets, _moving_ asteroids, planetoids, asteroid rings, planet rings, different star classes (not just color), space events (ok, i know some of those are rare, but they sure are fun: black hole gobbling stuff, super novas, gamma ray bursts, comet/asteroid/meteor/planet <-> planet/moon collision), gravitational pull (wouldn't slingshots be fun?), planets that are more than just mini-games (PI) or even worse Sony games (DUST). |
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