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Michael Jay'Faux The Scope Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.01.24 09:44:11 - [1] - Quote Hey besides exploration that makes me go cross eyed, i like high sec and wanna stay there what are some things I can do to make good isk. Right now I mine and a little PI and missions
Taunrich Kaufmann Caldari Executive Mining and Exploration 261	Posted - 2016.01.24 10:32:19 - [2] - Quote Mining & mission running are your best bet early on. Do the career agent missions first, that'll give you an idea of what you'll find enjoyable. You should try to join a newbie-friendly corp as well. Eve is a social game and meant to be played with others :) Caldari Loyalists Facebook page Concept Corax Kaalakiota CEO Skin
Centis Adjani Adjani Corporation 106	Posted - 2016.01.24 11:28:58 - [3] - Quote The best way always is the way - which bring you fun - which earn you ISK while having fun Otherwise you will end to see EvE as a Job and thats not funny. In this 'What to do in EvE' overview you find all the things you can do in EvE. If you click one of the rectangles it opens another site with additional information.
Zduhac Aldent New Jovian Exploration Department A Band Apart. 6	Posted - 2016.01.24 11:31:36 - [4] - Quote Lets do it like this first i will give you my advice then i will help you with question. LEAVE high sec,since day 1 i started playing eve not once did i live in high sec,went to low sec as soon as i got in then nullsec later now im in wh,nice isk a lot of fun,makes you better pvp player and eve player in general,now if you really want to stay in high sec for what ever reason i cant comperhand you can do missions,incursion,mining,if you are going to do pi do it as industry dont exstract any resources by yourself but buy them reporcess them on planets and sell them at higher prices just make some calcuations so you dont end up loosing money instead of making one,you can also do regular industry manufacturing stuff you can do region trading with hauler or station trading in one of hubs,possibltys are endless in this game try everything and see what you enjoy most (sorry for my ****** english not my nativ language)
Zduhac Aldent New Jovian Exploration Department A Band Apart. 6	Posted - 2016.01.24 11:36:07 - [5] - Quote Centis Adjani wrote: The best way always is the way - which bring you fun - which earn you ISK while having fun Otherwise you will end to see EvE as a Job and thats not funny. In this 'What to do in EvE' overview you find all the things you can do in EvE. If you click one of the rectangles it opens another site with additional information. Nice one but why did guy put roaming gangs and gatecamps in piracy? That is not piracy. And i found many more mistakes but its a nice try to simplify things in eve for new guys
Memphis Baas 982	Posted - 2016.01.24 13:46:42 - [6] - Quote High-sec is very crowded, and player corporations can't really give anything that you can't get solo (and thus without paying the corp taxes). As a result, you'll be at the lowest bracket of income in high-sec. Steady, predictable income: - mining (5-20 mil / hr based on progress to bigger mining ships) - agent missions - combat missions, transport missions, or mining missions (10-30 m/h) - exploration (10-30) - incursions (these are like raids, group PVE) (20-40) Income that is proportional to how much money you put in: - trading (either from station to station or in Jita, Dodixie, Amarr, or other trade hub) (2%, 5%, maybe 10% on a good day) - manufacturing and PI (not directly money-making, but you can sell the products via trading to make money) - invention (T2 manufacture) Activities that make you money based on luck: - suicide ganking a clueless loaded transport - corporate theft - corporate war declarations for extortion - various methods of scamming - begging for ISK Pay RL money to get ISK: - buy PLEX from CCP and sell on the market for ISK - (more convoluted) buy items from the NEX store (outfits, ship paint skins) and sell on the market for ISK - building characters for sale on the Character Bazaar (you pay subscription for 1-4 years, then get xx Billion ISK for character)
Taunrich Kaufmann Caldari Executive Mining and Exploration 265	Posted - 2016.01.24 13:52:24 - [7] - Quote Zduhac Aldent wrote: Nice one but why did guy put roaming gangs and gatecamps in piracy? That is not piracy. And i found many more mistakes but its a nice try to simplify things in eve for new guys Lolwut Roaming gangs and gatecamps are textbook piracy mate. Caldari Loyalists Facebook page Concept Corax Kaalakiota CEO Skin
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1112	Posted - 2016.01.24 14:19:44 - [8] - Quote Eve is a PvP game at it's core. The PvE is just there as a way to earn isk to PvP with. This is a game and as such fun should be your number one priority or at least that's how I see it. So in line with that I would ask the question what do you need the isk for? You've stated that you like high sec and want to stay there but in high sec there is not much to spend your isk on aside from more and more expensive modules for your mission boat and eventually it will get expensive enough to be worth ganking. That being said the most isk to be made in game is probably in high sec and that would be in Trading. However trading requires a knowledge of the game to be successful at it and therefore is out of reach for most new players. Don't get me wrong you can make isk trading without knowing the game backwards and forwards it's just to become and Eve Tycoon you'd need to understand a bit about the game so that you can better predict market trends. However maybe someone market savvy enough could do some basic market analysis and figure out how to become an Eve Trillionaire. Some people say that ganking and scamming are good isk. I've never done either of them. Mission running can be very good isk but you have to do some research as to how to run them. Speed running missions is the key. You are looking to make LP. I would stick with level 3's until you can do level 4's efficiently. I have not run missions full time since burners were introduced. I did go back to high sec to try burners when they came out I just did not do enough of them to figure out the best way to run them. However it seemed to me that those are where the isk is. They can be difficult to solo so if you could get a group of guys and churn through regular level 4's to get to the burners and then do them together that might be decent isk. Again I've not run missions in a long long time but have heard more recently of people claiming that they can make 200 million isk per hour running missions. Incursions are also decent isk but IMHO they can be very very grindy and repetitive. I found incursion running to be more boring than solo mission running if you can believe it. Like other's have said you should use your time in high sec to learn the basics of the game and then try out other places in the game. I once created an alt just to try out null sec mission running and not destroy my main's standing with high sec factions. I hope that my perspective was helpful.
Memphis Baas 983	Posted - 2016.01.24 14:21:58 - [9] - Quote Maybe he's defining piracy as whether you do it for the loot, or whether you don't even bother to loot and just PVP for the kicks of it. Though even in RL, an attack by an armed civilian boat of another civilian boat that results in just destruction and death and no looting, would still be classified as piracy.
Donnachadh United Allegiance of Undesirables 733	Posted - 2016.01.24 14:47:55 - [10] - Quote Market is without a doubt the best way to make ISK in EvE. As others mentioned the EvE markets can be as complex and difficult to understand as markets in real life. So enter with caution and do not risk everything you have on any one transaction. Before I go on a short detour to define an oft heard term. LP conversion, or LP to ISK. LP being loyalty points gained from many activities in the game, faction warfare, missions and Incursions are some of the best sources of LP. This is a process of buying items from the LP stores with a combination of LP and ISK and then selling them for ISK on contracts or in the markets. With a good fleet Incursions can bring 100 top 150 million per hour and even higher is possible but to some degree that is dependent on the LP conversion. Blitzing level 4 missions can bring you 80 to 100 million per hour reliably and across all regions of the EvE universe. Higher levels of income are indeed possible but a lot of that depends on your LP conversion. Blitzing level 3 missions can bring you 40-60 million per hour reliably across all areas of space, again higher is possible depending on LP conversion. Running level 4 missions non-blitz can bring 40-80 million per hour, again more is possible depending on K LP conversion. In the end this is a game and having fun doing what you like to do is more important than anything else.

Solomar Espersei Quality Assurance 575	Posted - 2016.01.24 16:22:26 - [11] - Quote I see no harm in focusing on missioning your way up to Lv 4s since along the way you'll get solid tanking/weapon skills that will serve you well in many other areas. Personally, as a young pilot, I made loads of money as a ninja salvager. But hey, that's what I found to be fun. You steal a lot of stuff and occasionally blow up some blingy mission boats. Ergherhdfgh's advice above is gold. Find something that you enjoy doing for ISKies and don't let your EVE experience turn into an "endless grind for gold". Have a go at a variety of things and find the one you're good at. Currently, I have a trade alt that I made ages ago and she sits in a hub selling PVP stuff. I simply buy it, contract it over to Red Frog and ship it to her. This takes very little in game effort, but is steady ISK for the casual player. In my experience trading in high sec has the highest ceiling of profits, followed by various criminal enterprises outlined above. Remember, fun is far more important than ISKies. Quality Assurance
Zduhac Aldent New Jovian Exploration Department A Band Apart. 6	Posted - 2016.01.24 17:19:05 - [12] - Quote Taunrich Kaufmann wrote: Zduhac Aldent wrote: Nice one but why did guy put roaming gangs and gatecamps in piracy? That is not piracy. And i found many more mistakes but its a nice try to simplify things in eve for new guys Lolwut Roaming gangs and gatecamps are textbook piracy mate. Define piracy then we can talk and have you ever lived in null? if roaming gangs are piracy all null sec alliances are Pirates
Thorian Baalnorn Bad Influence I N G L O R I O U S 32	Posted - 2016.01.24 18:01:19 - [13] - Quote First dont assume because you dont dislike highsec that you will dislike every other sec space in eve. You may find you like lowsec, null or WH space more. Also unless your playing the market your high sec isk/hr is very limited. You also have to deal with war decs and gankers. And in high sec war decs will nearly cripple you. You should get out and explore eve. See what low sec, null, and WH space has to offer. The lower the sec the easier it is to make isk. For example i make 200 mil isk in a 2-3 hours in null without trying. In high sec running l4s in a deadspace fitted rattlesnake i would have to really grind to make the same isk in 4-5 hours. Each sec has its pros and cons. Typically though the lower the sec the more isk/hr. But high sec isnt always the safest. I feel safer in null than i do in high. In null you are either friend or foe. In high there is a big shady area. In null wardecs are irrelevant, in high they can be crippling.
Zduhac Aldent New Jovian Exploration Department A Band Apart. 6	Posted - 2016.01.24 18:31:18 - [14] - Quote Thorian Baalnorn wrote: First dont assume because you dont dislike highsec that you will dislike every other sec space in eve. You may find you like lowsec, null or WH space more. Also unless your playing the market your high sec isk/hr is very limited. You also have to deal with war decs and gankers. And in high sec war decs will nearly cripple you. You should get out and explore eve. See what low sec, null, and WH space has to offer. The lower the sec the easier it is to make isk. For example i make 200 mil isk in a 2-3 hours in null without trying. In high sec running l4s in a deadspace fitted rattlesnake i would have to really grind to make the same isk in 4-5 hours. Each sec has its pros and cons. Typically though the lower the sec the more isk/hr. But high sec isnt always the safest. I feel safer in null than i do in high. In null you are either friend or foe. In high there is a big shady area. In null wardecs are irrelevant, in high they can be crippling. Dude i so like your answer I also always say null sec is defenatly safest space to live in you eather get ganked (which you do rarely just watch bloody local) or you dont you are not entering jita with 2 bil in cargo hold with 2000 enemies in it
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6252	Posted - 2016.01.24 20:51:17 - [15] - Quote Really, guys, why all the long replies. What is the best way to make money in high-sec? By doing that one activity that you find FUN to do Just that and nothing more. It is THAT simple. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
Sabriz Adoudel Move along there is nothing here 5650	Posted - 2016.01.24 23:59:26 - [16] - Quote Firstly, avoid mining. It's terrible even if you manage to avoid getting ganked by the likes of me. Miners have to compete with both actual bots and massive multibox operations, and basically they cannot. There's two fundamental approaches you can take to making ISK. You can make it from your own effort, or by creaming a bit from the effort of others. From your own effort, tech 2 module production is the best approach. It does cost a hundred million ISK or so to get started (and a quarter billion helps), but the market for Light Neutron Blaster IIs is huge, and every supplier involved in making them is making a profit. (Tech 1 production has lower margins, which actually means you need more skills to do it - you need very good trade skills, and expensive well-researched BPOs. Tech 2 is more newbie friendly). Missions and incursions quickly get boring. There's also a pretty hard cap you hit as to how much you can make this way. But the real ISK comes from taking it from the effort of others. Most trillionaires in EVE got there by trading. And large numbers of people worth a significant fraction of a trillion got there by scamming. It's better to take 5% of the results of the effort of 100 people (the trader's approach) or 50% of the results of the effort of 5 people (the scammer's approach) than to just take 100% of the fruits of your own labour. I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".
Vortexo VonBrenner Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord 2250	Posted - 2016.01.25 01:52:32 - [17] - Quote Hisec exploring isn't all that great at all. Not all that great of rewards and so much competition. Get a basic cloak setup and go out to low sec space to do exploration. Better rewards, less competition, more interesting avoiding the folks trying to blow you up. Wormholes and 0.0 security space are even better, but risk goes up too. Mining is ok at first, but you might get tired of it quickly if you're doing it for the isk. Mine with others. "chatrooms with lasers" In Hisec space you could do salvaging for mission runners. decent isk for a new player. ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
Pix Severus Empty You 2451	Posted - 2016.01.25 04:02:48 - [18] - Quote Get in a ship suitable for scanning, scan down drones in system, scoop all the drones. Find an abandoned MTU? Pop it, scoop the loot. My lord.
Alaric Faelen Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes 362	Posted - 2016.01.28 18:43:57 - [19] - Quote Best way to make isk in high sec is to be an alt of someone that lives in null sec.
Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic 1868	Posted - 2016.01.28 22:32:45 - [20] - Quote Best way to make ISK in hisec ? As stated the one you enjoy doing. Longterm most effective way to make ISK in hisec .... Income in the billions per hour - scamming or trading. Income over 100 mill per hour - incursions or blitzing level IV burners. Income reliably over 50 mill per hour - Level IV missions generally. Semi AFK income - hauling, mining and PI

Tiddle Jr Brutor tribe Minmatar Republic 757	Posted - 2016.01.29 05:24:42 - [21] - Quote I hope soon we could cover all those with SP farming bots, no need to undock ewah aghein!
Zduhac Aldent New Jovian Exploration Department A Band Apart. 8	Posted - 2016.01.29 19:54:56 - [22] - Quote Hasikan Miallok wrote: Best way to make ISK in hisec ? As stated the one you enjoy doing. Longterm most effective way to make ISK in hisec .... Income in the billions per hour - scamming or trading. Income over 100 mill per hour - incursions or blitzing level IV burners. Income reliably over 50 mill per hour - Level IV missions generally. Semi AFK income - hauling, mining and PI Im not saying you are wrong,no you are right but please also write requirements for that because this is new player,to earn on trading you need investment for exsample 5-10% is earning per item so to earn 100mil you need to invest 1 bil i think this guy doesnt have,as for making more then 150mil per hr on missioning you also need to tell him its high sp and higj time requirement to get to that point as is doing l4 regulary and getting more then 50mil,soo what you said is true but if he is able to earn 150mil missioning he will not be in HS with that skill and sp


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