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Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.29 19:12:00 - [61] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 29/01/2007 19:10:06 Originally by: Nemesor Originally by: Merdaneth Originally by: Nemesor But its certainly going to see the casualties mount when the time comes to punish the Amarri paramilities in PIE corporation for your involvement. Does this mean you are going to attack me for the involvement of a person I don't know and have never heard of before? I thought Star Fraction believed in individual responsibility. You hold me individually responsible for the acts of this man? How do you figure that? Nemesor: either you have gone mad, you don't adhere to SF principles, or you are just trying to confuse the issue. Which is it? Oh I have no desire to confuse the issue at all. I do not hold YOU responsible for the actions of this person. I do however, hold your organization responsible for its actions. Star Fraction has substancial evidence linking the Deathwalkers to Sovereign Enterprises... and from Sovereign Enterprises to PIE. In any conflict involving hired guns, one should strike at the master and not the Cats Paw. This is not about Star Fraction principles. It is about common sense. Although some personnel are involved in both organisations, Sovereign Enterprises is a publicly listed company, and is independent of PIE. As for these Deathwalkers, I hadn't even heard of them before today. So let's see your "substantial evidence". Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori It's great being Amarr, ain't it?
Merdaneth Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.29 19:14:00 - [62] Edited by: Merdaneth on 29/01/2007 19:11:01 Originally by: Nemesor Oh I have no desire to confuse the issue at all. I do not hold YOU responsible for the actions of this person. I do however, hold your organization responsible for its actions. But, will you attack me just for membership of an organization? Will you attack me even though you know I have had no part in anything you want this punish this 'master' for? I am exploring what 'individual responsibility' means to SF. From my understanding of SF principles, I would assume that SF would attack and punish the individuals that are responsible for such acts. Merely attacking anyone sharing a common denominator (such as a corp or a nation) with the responsible individuals would not be a sufficient reason for SF to attack such individuals. I assume this because thinking in terms of group responsibility would be avoided by SF members at all costs, after all, one of the points they are trying to make that for posthumans there is no such thing as 'group responisibility'. Do you understand my confusion now? Constantly SF members seemingly talk in a way that reeks of the 'old, ineffective and corrupt nationalist memes'. It seems SF members are unable to practice (or even grasp) the implication of their own philosophy. Or they are being contradictory on purpose.....
Nemesor Gallente Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.29 19:17:00 - [63] Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 29/01/2007 19:10:06 Originally by: Nemesor Originally by: Merdaneth Originally by: Nemesor But its certainly going to see the casualties mount when the time comes to punish the Amarri paramilities in PIE corporation for your involvement. Does this mean you are going to attack me for the involvement of a person I don't know and have never heard of before? I thought Star Fraction believed in individual responsibility. You hold me individually responsible for the acts of this man? How do you figure that? Nemesor: either you have gone mad, you don't adhere to SF principles, or you are just trying to confuse the issue. Which is it? Oh I have no desire to confuse the issue at all. I do not hold YOU responsible for the actions of this person. I do however, hold your organization responsible for its actions. Star Fraction has substancial evidence linking the Deathwalkers to Sovereign Enterprises... and from Sovereign Enterprises to PIE. In any conflict involving hired guns, one should strike at the master and not the Cats Paw. This is not about Star Fraction principles. It is about common sense. Although some personnel are involved in both organisations, Sovereign Enterprises is a publicly listed company, and is independent of PIE. As for these Deathwalkers, I hadn't even heard of them before today. So let's see your "substantial evidence". So you admit the connection between Sovereign and PIE then. Interesting. Evidence to follow.
Nekumi Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.29 19:19:00 - [64] Merdaneth, you and every member of PIE where on the list long before this happened. Oh and Blake, is that the best you can come up with? If you think we'll just reveal sources of information just because you ask us to, you're deluding yourself even more than usual.
Nemesor Gallente Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.29 19:46:00 - [65] Originally by: Merdaneth But, will you attack me just for membership of an organization? Will you attack me even though you know I have had no part in anything you want this punish this 'master' for? When you aligned yourself with your current organization, you made a choice to proclaim your support for them and their ideology. Unless of course, someone coerced you into it? Quote: I am exploring what 'individual responsibility' means to SF. From my understanding of SF principles, I would assume that SF would attack and punish the individuals that are responsible for such acts. You have placed yourself under the command of leadership that would lead you on a path into conflict with the Star Fraction. If you wish to avoid the consequences of this... you are encouraged to declare your 'individual responsibility' and leave them. Quote: Merely attacking anyone sharing a common denominator (such as a corp or a nation) with the responsible individuals would not be a sufficient reason for SF to attack such individuals. I assume this because thinking in terms of group responsibility would be avoided by SF members at all costs, after all, one of the points they are trying to make that for posthumans there is no such thing as 'group responisibility'. I would like nothing better than to simply purge the individuals responsible specifically. However, the reality is, the individuals will hide behind the meatshields you and your fellow followers provide them.
Merdaneth Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.29 20:52:00 - [66] Originally by: Nemesor When you aligned yourself with your current organization, you made a choice to proclaim your support for them and their ideology. Unless of course, someone coerced you into it? You are simply side-stepping the issue now. You can of course attack me for spreading an ideology that you oppose. That is well within the SF charter. That was not my question though, it was: would you attack me solely because I am a member of an organization that harbors an individual that you have an issue with? Originally by: Nemesor You have placed yourself under the command of leadership that would lead you on a path into conflict with the Star Fraction. If you wish to avoid the consequences of this... you are encouraged to declare your 'individual responsibility' and leave them. You are sidestepping again. If I don't take any action against SF, will you 'punish' me simply because my commander takes action against SF? Are that the 'consquences' of which you speak? If I 'choose' not to obey my commanders when he tells me to attack you, will you still punish me? Originally by: Nemesor I would like nothing better than to simply purge the individuals responsible specifically. However, the reality is, the individuals will hide behind the meatshields you and your fellow followers provide them. So you adapt your ideology to suit reality, a most sensible decision indeed! Who 'a meatshield' is simply doesn't matter to you, he might be a perfect freespacer (note that being a freespacer carries no obligation to attack those who oppose freespace), just the fact that he is 'in the way' is more than sufficient reason for you to kill him. The means are subservient to the goals. Also, note that being a member to an organization is not the same as proclaiming support for them. You believe all slaves I own have proclaimed support for my cause and ideology simply because they are part of my organization? Of course you do not. If you do, however, you believe less in 'individual responisibility' than I do.
Nekumi Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.29 20:55:00 - [67] Originally by: Merdaneth Originally by: Nemesor When you aligned yourself with your current organization, you made a choice to proclaim your support for them and their ideology. Unless of course, someone coerced you into it? You are simply side-stepping the issue now. You can of course attack me for spreading an ideology that you oppose. That is well within the SF charter. That was not my question though, it was: would you attack me solely because I am a member of an organization that harbors an individual that you have an issue with? Originally by: Nemesor You have placed yourself under the command of leadership that would lead you on a path into conflict with the Star Fraction. If you wish to avoid the consequences of this... you are encouraged to declare your 'individual responsibility' and leave them. You are sidestepping again. If I don't take any action against SF, will you 'punish' me simply because my commander takes action against SF? Are that the 'consquences' of which you speak? If I 'choose' not to obey my commanders when he tells me to attack you, will you still punish me? Originally by: Nemesor I would like nothing better than to simply purge the individuals responsible specifically. However, the reality is, the individuals will hide behind the meatshields you and your fellow followers provide them. So you adapt your ideology to suit reality, a most sensible decision indeed! Who 'a meatshield' is simply doesn't matter to you, he might be a perfect freespacer (note that being a freespacer carries no obligation to attack those who oppose freespace), just the fact that he is 'in the way' is more than sufficient reason for you to kill him. The means are subservient to the goals. Also, note that being a member to an organization is not the same as proclaiming support for them. You believe all slaves I own have proclaimed support for my cause and ideology simply because they are part of my organization? Of course you do not. If you do, however, you believe less in 'individual responisibility' than I do. Words are pointless at this juncture Merdaneth. You've been given all the information you need by various members of Star Fraction. We've tried and tried to explain to you again and again but you're blind to it and that's not something further debate will change.
Merdaneth Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.29 20:56:00 - [68] Originally by: Nekumi Merdaneth, you and every member of PIE where on the list long before this happened. You haven't answered my question. You can of course put me on the list for different reasons (such as opposing you here, or spreading a different ideology), but I was wondering if you would put me on the list for the reason you mentioned. Especially since I have been in PIE for less than two weeks. Obviously I have got nothing to do with any of the machinations of which you speak. So, please, answer my question.
Calladen Nimitz Caldari Sovereign Labs	Posted - 2007.01.29 21:06:00 - [69] I was informed my name was mentioned in this thread. While I do not partake in "RP" I will respond to some accusations and assertions made here in my own defense. I will also invite those who claim to have "evidence" against me to present that evidence so as to bolster their case. As there is none I am very confident. I have read the thread here and find it very disturbing. I have no stake in the Amarrian wars and while I live in Amarr space I am a Caldari Capitalist at heart. Profit and opportunity define my every action. I am an individual not a drone of an Empire. To correct some misconceptions presented: Quote: As an aside we've been offered intelligence from our sources that the unnamed businessman referenced in the Deathstalkers vs DarkSeraph declaration above was none other than ex Taggart Transdimensional director Calladen Nimitz who is now the leading shareholder in a corporation called Sovereign Labs which is itself a wholey-owned subsidary of Sovereign Enterprises The reality is we sell our ships on the open market, most in Jita where we make daily trade runs, and not direct to any one customer on a regular basis. We have once sold T2 components to a couple of Amarrian corporations and likewise have sold bulk to corporations in FIX and LV. As our business is open market oriented we have no real "regular" customers. If you buy ships in Jita or Tash-Murkon you may buy a Sovereign ship. If you do you buy quality. I am not the leading shareholder in Sovereign Enterprises (I am #3 actually). Also I am not familiar with the Deathstalker Corporation and haven't used mercenaries in a conflict in several years. While I was a former TTI Director I left TTI before Venal went crazy and Ragnar drove the Corporation into oblivion. Since that time I have traveled south and was a CFS Senator, Vice-President and President. Following that and a prolonged absence for health issues (RL) I returned and with a few friends started Libertas Enterprises. Libertas was a low-level mining and trading corporation and while we didn't make alot of money we had good times. After this I was contacted by an old friend (Zolcan) about running a lab operation for him. I had met Zolcan and his uncle Archbishop at a fundraiser for orphaned children several months earlier and have become a good friend of Zolcan. While I do not see Archbishop much my experiences with him have been positive as well. Quote: There seems to be a direct connection here that leads us to conclude that your threats of infiltration and sabotage are no simple coincidence and that this posting of yours has been authorised by Calladen Nimitz and Sovereign Enterprises operating as a deniable dirty-tricks arm of PIE corporation. As I stated I have no need to "authorize dirty tricks" against anyone. Sovereign is a peaceful public corporation traded on the Eve RT Stock Exchange. We operate under a corporate charter that requires neutrality in issues, we have a no-slave policy and provide good living conditions and wages for all our employees. We have no military arm as we are purely industrial. Quote: Star Fraction has substancial evidence linking the Deathwalkers to Sovereign Enterprises... and from Sovereign Enterprises to PIE. Sovereign Enteprises is publically traded, has held an open IPO and has held an open freighter bond issue. We have several dozen shareholders some of whom are in PIE (not a majority) as well as several other alliances. No PIE member sits on our Board of Directors and we operate with the concept of delivering quality service and products to our customers. SOVEREIGN ENTERPRISES WEBPAGE AND FORUMS
Calladen Nimitz Caldari Sovereign Labs	Posted - 2007.01.29 21:06:00 - [70] Quote: So you admit the connection between Sovereign and PIE then. Interesting. The source of our intelligence would be burned by any overt revelation, currently. We are not prepared to turn out our loyal agents for your pleasure. The only "connection" is that some PIE members hold Sovereign stock as do members of approximately 16 other corporations and alliances. We are a public corporation after all traded on the Eve RT Stock Exchange. If you visit the Market Forum here you will see our long history of posts and be able to download our charter in .pdf format for review. Likewise you can always click the link below my sig to visit our website. As for turning over loyal agents you dont need to. Just present the evidence without revealing who they are. That should be sufficient to satisfy everyone who is as puzzled by this as I am. Certainly you can have no objection to that as long as your "agents" are not compromised? Certainly this looks like an accusation and an implied threat. As a peaceful industrial company we are completely unable to defend ourselves against the likes of the Star Fraction. They've already stated they target weaker corporations and this would certainly be the case here. Targeting a helpless industrial corporation would be a walk in the park for such a wealth T2 funded alliance with billions a week in passive income. We would be helpless. So I invite the Star Fraction to reveal their evidence WITHOUT revealing the source. Let us all see what you claim is there and allow me a chance to defend myself. In the true concept of "freedom" for the individual and the philosophy we all hold dear condemning someone without offering "proof" makes one as much an oppressor of truth as one he would fight. Calladen Nimitz Research Director Sovereign Labs SOVEREIGN ENTERPRISES WEBPAGE AND FORUMS
Merdaneth Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.29 21:11:00 - [71] Originally by: Nekumi Words are pointless at this juncture Merdaneth. You've been given all the information you need by various members of Star Fraction. We've tried and tried to explain to you again and again but you're blind to it and that's not something further debate will change. If you point out why my questions are unreasonable, why the issues I bring forth are nonsensical, I'll be happy to let it go. Obviously I am still blind to what you are trying to show me. Perhaps you are trying to show me something that cannot be seen through the eyes of logic? Individual responsibility is an SF core value. My questions about it are not complicated. They are relevant for many people. The implications of your answers might be far-reaching though. They might show the breakdown of SF principles in the face of such simple dilemma's. That is of course what I am trying to show you. SF philosophy has no good answers for such simple dilemma's. You could free yourself from the burden SF philosophy imposes on you now by simply stating SF members are not bound by their own philosophy, and do not need to live by it's principles. You could state that you are simply a tools to achieve the ultimate posthuman universe, and that the goals are subservient to the means. It does make you every bit as imperialist as many other organizations of course, but I understand that sometimes a personal sacrifice is needed to achieve a greater goal. Just let go, you are only deluding yourself anyway.
Merdaneth Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.29 21:19:00 - [72] Originally by: Calladen Nimitz Certainly this looks like an accusation and an implied threat. As a peaceful industrial company we are completely unable to defend ourselves against the likes of the Star Fraction. They've already stated they target weaker corporations and this would certainly be the case here. Targeting a helpless industrial corporation would be a walk in the park for such a wealth T2 funded alliance with billions a week in passive income. We would be helpless. Calladen, while I feel for your dilemma, I'm afraid such statements will make you only a more likely target for the Star Fraction, since it signals dependency to them, please consider the way you phrase your requests. Star Fraction simply doesn't operate in a way you are used too. I must warn you that facts do not help here, a strong projection of self-reliance and acknowledgement of individual responsibility, and a clear rejection of any organization that has nationalist or territorial goals will. Lie if you must, SF will only praise your ingenuity and self-reliance for it.
Nemesor Gallente Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.29 21:22:00 - [73] Originally by: Merdaneth Originally by: Nekumi Merdaneth, you and every member of PIE where on the list long before this happened. You haven't answered my question. You can of course put me on the list for different reasons (such as opposing you here, or spreading a different ideology), but I was wondering if you would put me on the list for the reason you mentioned. Especially since I have been in PIE for less than two weeks. Obviously I have got nothing to do with any of the machinations of which you speak. So, please, answer my question. You would be a valid target of war... because you made your choice when you signed your soul over to the vile worms you work for. Because you added your voice to the regressive principles for which they stand, I would shoot you as soon as look at you.
Nekumi Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.29 21:37:00 - [74] Originally by: Merdaneth Originally by: Nekumi Words are pointless at this juncture Merdaneth. You've been given all the information you need by various members of Star Fraction. We've tried and tried to explain to you again and again but you're blind to it and that's not something further debate will change. If you point out why my questions are unreasonable, why the issues I bring forth are nonsensical, I'll be happy to let it go. Obviously I am still blind to what you are trying to show me. Perhaps you are trying to show me something that cannot be seen through the eyes of logic? Individual responsibility is an SF core value. My questions about it are not complicated. They are relevant for many people. The implications of your answers might be far-reaching though. They might show the breakdown of SF principles in the face of such simple dilemma's. That is of course what I am trying to show you. SF philosophy has no good answers for such simple dilemma's. You could free yourself from the burden SF philosophy imposes on you now by simply stating SF members are not bound by their own philosophy, and do not need to live by it's principles. You could state that you are simply a tools to achieve the ultimate posthuman universe, and that the goals are subservient to the means. It does make you every bit as imperialist as many other organizations of course, but I understand that sometimes a personal sacrifice is needed to achieve a greater goal. Just let go, you are only deluding yourself anyway. Your questions are unreasonable because they are repetitions of things that have already been answered on numerous occasions but you fail to either read or comprehend the answers. I will not debate you further until such a time as you come up with something new or indeed relevant.
Nemesor Gallente Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.29 22:10:00 - [75] Edited by: Nemesor on 29/01/2007 22:07:04 Quote: Certainly this looks like an accusation and an implied threat. As a peaceful industrial company we are completely unable to defend ourselves against the likes of the Star Fraction. They've already stated they target weaker corporations and this would certainly be the case here. I do not think we have ever stated that we target weaker corporations. Taking a play directly out of Archbishops playbook I see? Hoping we wouldn't notice that jab amidst all the drivel you and he seem to relish spouting. Quote: As for turning over loyal agents you dont need to. Just present the evidence without revealing who they are. That should be sufficient to satisfy everyone who is as puzzled by this as I am. Certainly you can have no objection to that as long as your "agents" are not compromised? We have no need to expose the information at this point, moreover, it cannot be shared without exposing our operatives. Just be aware that the link in known. Originally by: Calladen Nimitz I had met Zolcan and his uncle Archbishop at a fundraiser for orphaned children several months earlier I am sure the event was profitable. How many children were sold in total? I am not suprised you made his aquaintance at such an event.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.29 22:18:00 - [76] Originally by: Nemesor So you admit the connection between Sovereign and PIE then. Interesting. The source of our intelligence would be burned by any overt revelation, currently. We are not prepared to turn out our loyal agents for your pleasure. I admit to being a shareholder along with hundreds of other people, some of whom are in PIE. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori It's great being Amarr, ain't it?
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.29 22:26:00 - [77] Originally by: Nemesor You would be a valid target of war... because you made your choice when you signed your soul over to the vile worms you work for. I'll be expecting your declaration shortly then. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori It's great being Amarr, ain't it?
Nemesor Gallente Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.29 22:27:00 - [78] Edited by: Nemesor on 29/01/2007 22:24:50 Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Nemesor You would be a valid target of war... because you made your choice when you signed your soul over to the vile worms you work for. I'll be expecting your declaration shortly then. Do you read things before your sausage-like fingers start plugging away at your comms panel? All in good time worm. All in good time.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.29 22:30:00 - [79] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 29/01/2007 22:27:06 Originally by: Nemesor Edited by: Nemesor on 29/01/2007 22:24:50 Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Nemesor You would be a valid target of war... because you made your choice when you signed your soul over to the vile worms you work for. I'll be expecting your declaration shortly then. Do you read things before your sausage-like fingers start plugging away at your comms panel? All in good time worm. All in good time. Once you've had a stiff drink to get over your fear, no doubt. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori It's great being Amarr, ain't it?
Nemesor Gallente Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.29 22:36:00 - [80] Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 29/01/2007 22:27:06 Originally by: Nemesor Edited by: Nemesor on 29/01/2007 22:24:50 Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Nemesor You would be a valid target of war... because you made your choice when you signed your soul over to the vile worms you work for. I'll be expecting your declaration shortly then. Do you read things before your sausage-like fingers start plugging away at your comms panel? All in good time worm. All in good time. Once you've had a stiff drink to get over your fear, no doubt. I see why PIE keeps you around... humor is such a rare commodity these days. Just keep telling yourself whatever makes you sleep easier at night.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.29 22:37:00 - [81] Originally by: Nemesor Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 29/01/2007 22:27:06 Originally by: Nemesor Edited by: Nemesor on 29/01/2007 22:24:50 Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Nemesor You would be a valid target of war... because you made your choice when you signed your soul over to the vile worms you work for. I'll be expecting your declaration shortly then. Do you read things before your sausage-like fingers start plugging away at your comms panel? All in good time worm. All in good time. Once you've had a stiff drink to get over your fear, no doubt. I see why PIE keeps you around... humor is such a rare commodity these days. Just keep telling yourself whatever makes you sleep easier at night. That's it boy, put on a brave face. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori It's great being Amarr, ain't it?
Merdaneth Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.29 22:38:00 - [82] Originally by: Nekumi I will not debate you further until such a time as you come up with something new or indeed relevant. I understand. Can you perhaps then at least to point me to the answers already given to me questions? I'll study them alone.
Nemesor Gallente Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.29 22:40:00 - [83] Edited by: Nemesor on 29/01/2007 22:43:54 Enough talk. Either you wait your turn like a good dog or issue a formal request for conflict with me personally. I will oblige you.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.29 22:41:00 - [84] Originally by: Nemesor Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Nemesor Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 29/01/2007 22:27:06 Originally by: Nemesor Edited by: Nemesor on 29/01/2007 22:24:50 Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Nemesor You would be a valid target of war... because you made your choice when you signed your soul over to the vile worms you work for. I'll be expecting your declaration shortly then. Do you read things before your sausage-like fingers start plugging away at your comms panel? All in good time worm. All in good time. Once you've had a stiff drink to get over your fear, no doubt. I see why PIE keeps you around... humor is such a rare commodity these days. Just keep telling yourself whatever makes you sleep easier at night. That's it boy, put on a brave face. Enough talk. Either you wait your turn like a good dog or issue a formal request for conflict with me personally. I will oblige you. You almost sound as though you're getting rattled. You should watch that, one day it will get you into trouble. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori It's great being Amarr, ain't it?
Nemesor Gallente Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.29 22:44:00 - [85] Edited by: Nemesor on 29/01/2007 22:43:09 Enough talk. Either you wait your turn like a good dog or issue a formal request for conflict with me personally. I will oblige you. You almost sound as though you're getting rattled. You should watch that, one day it will get you into trouble. I refer you to my previous post.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.29 22:45:00 - [86] Originally by: Nemesor Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Nemesor Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Nemesor Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 29/01/2007 22:27:06 Originally by: Nemesor Edited by: Nemesor on 29/01/2007 22:24:50 Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Nemesor You would be a valid target of war... because you made your choice when you signed your soul over to the vile worms you work for. I'll be expecting your declaration shortly then. Do you read things before your sausage-like fingers start plugging away at your comms panel? All in good time worm. All in good time. Once you've had a stiff drink to get over your fear, no doubt. I see why PIE keeps you around... humor is such a rare commodity these days. Just keep telling yourself whatever makes you sleep easier at night. That's it boy, put on a brave face. Enough talk. Either you wait your turn like a good dog or issue a formal request for conflict with me personally. I will oblige you. You almost sound as though you're getting rattled. You should watch that, one day it will get you into trouble. I refer you to my previous post. You're a fast learner I'll give you that. It's just a shame that your post-human overlords aren't willing to oblige your desire for combat with a war declaration. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori It's great being Amarr, ain't it?
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.29 23:04:00 - [87] This thread is getting stupid. Star Fraction is recruiting
Merdaneth Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.29 23:09:00 - [88] Originally by: Nemesor You would be a valid target of war... because you made your choice when you signed your soul over to the vile worms you work for. Because you added your voice to the regressive principles for which they stand, I would shoot you as soon as look at you. Since you keep on avoiding a single straight answer, I'll have to take that as a 'yes'. BTW, according to your own philosophy, such a thing as 'signing over souls' is meaningless and void. Do SF believe people even have souls? In any case, I have not 'signed over my soul' anymore than you did yours when you joined SF. Unless you argue that once you 'chose' to join SF, you lost the ability to think and make decision for yourself.
Merdaneth Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.29 23:10:00 - [89] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine This thread is getting stupid. I think the thread indeed is long past it's finest hour.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.29 23:17:00 - [90] Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 29/01/2007 23:14:12 Originally by: Merdaneth Originally by: Jasmine Constantine This thread is getting stupid. I think the thread indeed is long past it's finest hour. Its always going to happen when you try to manipulate people's answers through endless repetitive questioning. To be honest you had all the answers you ever needed when Cosmo posted on page one. And that whacko Deathstalker hirling of Calladen's should have started her own thread to tell us how badly we were getting corp-thefted. End of the day we're going to be fighting soon and you'll be too busy prepping your ship for action to indulge in this sort of linguistical navel-gazing nonsense. You'll find you need weapons and ammo to fight the Star Fraction and however silly these threads have gotten in the interim it'll change nothing of the verdict in space. That'll be reached with courage and cunning and war-tactics - nothing else. Star Fraction is recruiting

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