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Kalgeroth The Monocled Elite 0	Posted - 2016.01.25 00:17:47 - [1] - Quote Greetings! As a financially secure pilot with a successful Jita-based business, I would like to give something back to help new pilots into the game. This is an opportunity for new pilots to get off to a great start. Let's get a few things established quickly; I am giving ISK to newer players, as an interest-free loan, repaid only when you are willing and able, to help you into the game You do not have to send me any ISK or offer any collateral as security - this is not a scam Repayment is optional - I will rely on your sense of goodwill and fairness Eligibility requirements; You must have less than 5 million skillpoints You must have held your pilot license for a minimum of 3 weeks and a maximum of 6 months You must have less than 50m ISK in your wallet You must be willing to share your API privately with me, so I can check you do not have older characters in your account, or adequate financial resources already in place - there is absolutely no risk in sharing your API, however I need to protect myself from scams You must have some standings/proof of activity from missions, mining, or PvP, so I know you're not an inactive alt (I can check this via the API) You must apply in this thread, and include the following information; What you enjoy about Eve What your goals are and what you hope to achieve in-game The amount of ISK you wish to borrow What you will use the ISK for - please be as detailed as possible to help me assess the amount required How it works Post your application for financial assistance in this thread - as per the 4 points above I will then review the applications, generally one every day or two I will reply in this thread notifying you if your application is approved You will then send me your API for verification - I must be able to see your wallet activity, skills, characters in the account, and standings Once you are verified, I will transfer you the ISK You may repay the ISK when you have become more successful in EVE and can afford to - I understand that for some of you, this may never happen, but I offer this service in goodwill and hope to recoup at least some of the ISK Q&A Q: How will you afford this? A: I am setting aside 20% of my daily trading profits for this good cause. I will loan out ISK up to this level. Q: How will you ensure you get paid back? A: I cannot ensure this. I know I will probably lose ISK. But I hope that enough new pilots will go on to succeed and repay me at some point in their future, that I will not lose too much money in the long-term. Q: Why are you doing this? A: My reasons are genuinely altruistic. To help new players out - but not just any new players, those with clear goals and who need a helping hand to realise their EVE dreams. Feel free to ask any questions. You can also convo me in-game, if I'm online. Thanks!
Kalgeroth The Monocled Elite 0	Posted - 2016.01.25 00:21:22 - [2] - Quote [Reserved]
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 13723	Posted - 2016.01.25 00:42:52 - [3] - Quote you dont have a monocle also this will be moved , inappropriate for here Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Neuntausend GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 531	Posted - 2016.01.25 01:39:23 - [4] - Quote I'd say a promising newbie with plans and goals should have more than 50M on his wallet after 3 weeks. But I suppose it's all relative.
Mephiztopheleze Republic University Minmatar Republic 478	Posted - 2016.01.25 01:52:51 - [5] - Quote instead of handing out ISK, why not hand out 10 packs of fitted T1 frigates? Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze
Candi LeMew Isogen 5 39471	Posted - 2016.01.25 02:00:04 - [6] - Quote Kalgeroth wrote: Greetings! 'sup Quote: You must apply in this thread, and include the following information; What you enjoy about Eve Dank fragz, dunkin' caps, wreckin' nerds n' being me. What your goals are and what you hope to achieve in-game I was born destined to become the greatest Proteus pilot the galaxy has ever known. The amount of ISK you wish to borrow 10b What you will use the ISK for - please be as detailed as possible to help me assess the amount required Probably another Giant Yellow Proteus n' give the rest to Boss. Standin' by for the transfer. Thank you in advance. Also, after you're done sending the dank ISK over, you could try doin' what Boss did instead. Send some pilots to a rookie starter system, tutor n' mentor new pilots, give out ISK for small tasks n' take them on adventures doin' missions or minin', lettin' them keep the lions share of everything. Seed the system market with cheap ships n' stuff they can afford n' do regular give-aways of ships or ISK. Of course though that takes a lil more effort than scannin' peeps API. n-â fruít-¦-âwl lík-ö h-âm-ö =ƒìî Remember... in Anoikis Bob Is Always Watching... "I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James
Iria Ahrens Space Perverts and Forum Pirates 612	Posted - 2016.01.25 02:11:58 - [7] - Quote sigh, I liked the idea. But we are already being trolled. My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
Candi LeMew Isogen 5 39474	Posted - 2016.01.25 02:17:59 - [8] - Quote Iria Ahrens wrote: sigh, I liked the idea and the intent. But we are already being trolled. You're welcome. It's actually a good idea, though a bit na+»ve. There'll be more people taking advantage of it than actual newbies in need applying. Most newbies won't even know we have forums, let alone find the thread. It's also in the wrong forum area really. Get out there among the new folk in the rookie systems and make an actual difference while givin' your cash away. And before you go wavin' the troll-stick I've probably done more in-space, and in-ISK, to help new folk than you and OP combined and x 20. n-â fruít-¦-âwl lík-ö h-âm-ö =ƒìî Remember... in Anoikis Bob Is Always Watching... "I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James
Kalgeroth The Monocled Elite 0	Posted - 2016.01.25 08:37:49 - [9] - Quote Thank you for your repsonses. May I please remind you that this is a service for new players only. I'm not sure why there are comments regarding API and scamming as it's impossible to use the API to scam anyone, since all it provides is character information. To clarify, the only API data I need to verify an application is: characters on the account, wallet transactions, standings, and skills. This is so that I can verify that the character meets eligibility requirements. Clearly it's not possible to scam anyone on the basis of that information. But don't take my word for it, here is CCP's official guide to using the API: https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/202428251-API-Key-Management
Kalgeroth The Monocled Elite 0	Posted - 2016.01.25 08:42:06 - [10] - Quote Neuntausend wrote: I'd say a promising newbie with plans and goals should have more than 50M on his wallet after 3 weeks. But I suppose it's all relative. Thanks for your feedback. On reflection I have increased the maximum wallet amount to 100m ISK.
dark heartt 533	Posted - 2016.01.25 09:47:32 - [11] - Quote From the Monocled Elite... not wearing a Monocle. What is this scam? http://tetrisisunrealistic.blogspot.com.au/
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 56106	Posted - 2016.01.25 11:01:16 - [12] - Quote Kalgeroth wrote: May I please remind you that this is a service for new players only. She's such a Troublesome Banana. Good luck with your initiative, sir. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel Gû+ wor-+-+ole d+¦ary + c-+arac-éer -¦+¦o-ò Gû+ -¦-âss
Iria Ahrens Space Perverts and Forum Pirates 613	Posted - 2016.01.25 15:34:42 - [13] - Quote Candi LeMew wrote: Iria Ahrens wrote: sigh, I liked the idea and the intent. But we are already being trolled. You're welcome. It's actually a good idea, though a bit na+»ve. There'll be more people taking advantage of it than actual newbies in need applying. Most newbies won't even know we have forums, let alone find the thread. It's also in the wrong forum area really. Get out there among the new folk in the rookie systems and make an actual difference while givin' your cash away. And before you go wavin' the troll-stick I've probably done more in-space, and in-ISK, to help new folk than you and OP combined and x 20. Sigh, apparently I didn't wipe my post fast enough. Sorry for the original response. I walked away thinking I that I covered my mistake quickly enough as there were no responses. Not going to get into any argument about who is better at helping newbies. It is something I do because I enjoy doing it, not because I'm trying to one-up anyone else. My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
Candi LeMew Isogen 5 39571	Posted - 2016.01.25 20:38:27 - [14] - Quote Iria Ahrens wrote: It is something I do because I enjoy doing it, not because I'm trying to one-up anyone else. So, about that 10b loan .... n-â fruít-¦-âwl lík-ö h-âm-ö =ƒìî Remember... in Anoikis Bob Is Always Watching... "I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6255	Posted - 2016.01.25 23:04:42 - [15] - Quote Kalgeroth wrote: You must be willing to share your limited API (details from CCP here) privately with me, so I can check you do not have older characters in your account, or adequate financial resources already in place - there is absolutely no risk in sharing your API, however I need to protect myself from scams ! HAHAHAHAHAHA Time to roll 100 throwaway trial accounts and cycle through the character slots.... p.s. People who rely on an API for security reasons are dumb as **. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club**
Kalgeroth The Monocled Elite 3	Posted - 2016.01.25 23:11:59 - [16] - Quote J'Poll wrote: [quote=Kalgeroth] Time to roll 100 throwaway trial accounts and cycle through the character slots.... p.s. People who rely on an API for security reasons are dumb as ****. Greetings. Thank you for your comment. Minimum character age requirements prevents the use of trial accounts. Have a great day!
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6255	Posted - 2016.01.25 23:16:08 - [17] - Quote Kalgeroth wrote: J'Poll wrote: [quote=Kalgeroth] Time to roll 100 throwaway trial accounts and cycle through the character slots.... p.s. People who rely on an API for security reasons are dumb as **. Greetings. Thank you for your comment. Minimum character age requirements prevents the use of trial accounts. Have a great day! Buddy invites are 3 weeks. Now, let's say, I buy a PLEX with the buddy and then sub the account for 30 days. This give my main the option of also picking 30 days of game time. So basically: 51 days of throwaway alt, for free. You clearly haven't got a clue how stuff works and how it can be abused. But, meh, good luck. Thanks for the Free ISK in advance, I will put it to good use. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club**
Kalgeroth The Monocled Elite 3	Posted - 2016.01.25 23:21:52 - [18] - Quote J'Poll wrote: Buddy invites are 3 weeks, think again. And as they don't cost you anything but 2 minutes to set up, you just mass make them and some will get lucky. Thanks for the Free ISK in advance, I will put it to good use. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I have raised the minimum age to three weeks. I am aware that some pilots will attempt to mis-use this service. Fortunately I expect the number to be small, and, as there is no guarantee of me granting a loan until I approve the application and review the API details, I expect these incidents to be a minimum. If someone wants to go to all the trouble of a whole, paid, fake account with a character who meets the criteria for a small 'loan', well, good luck to them. They'd be better off selling a plex!
Thorian Baalnorn Bad Influence I N G L O R I O U S 38	Posted - 2016.01.26 08:05:06 - [19] - Quote Kalgeroth wrote: J'Poll wrote: Buddy invites are 3 weeks, think again. And as they don't cost you anything but 2 minutes to set up, you just mass make them and some will get lucky. Thanks for the Free ISK in advance, I will put it to good use. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I have raised the minimum age to three weeks. I am aware that some pilots will attempt to mis-use this service. Fortunately I expect the number to be small, and, as there is no guarantee of me granting a loan until I approve the application and review the API details, I expect these incidents to be a minimum. If someone wants to go to all the trouble of a whole, paid, fake account with a character who meets the criteria for a small 'loan', well, good luck to them. They'd be better off selling a plex! You have to like how fast people come up with ways to scam whatever idea you come up with in this game. Its like thats all they do is figure out how to scam someone or the system. Shooting Structures = PVP Mining
Candi LeMew Isogen 5 39634	Posted - 2016.01.26 09:40:51 - [20] - Quote Kalgeroth wrote: I am aware that some pilots will attempt to mis-use this service. I never said I was new. But baby I am fresh. n-â fruít-¦-âwl lík-ö h-âm-ö =ƒìî Remember... in Anoikis Bob Is Always Watching... "I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James
Kalgeroth The Monocled Elite 3	Posted - 2016.01.27 23:30:07 - [21] - Quote Help still available to new players
Francis Raven ExDominion Evictus. 13	Posted - 2016.01.28 13:18:14 - [22] - Quote How is this going anyways? I've been loosely following this thread and am just curious as to if you're getting some interest on your end, Kal?
Kalgeroth The Monocled Elite 3	Posted - 2016.01.28 14:59:38 - [23] - Quote Francis Raven wrote: How is this going anyways? I've been loosely following this thread and am just curious as to if you're getting some interest on your end, Kal? A few in-game convos, nothing more. I'm still offering support to anyone who might need it though. Might relax the requirements a bit
Cara Forelli Meticulously Indifferent 1497	Posted - 2016.01.28 19:56:40 - [24] - Quote Kalgeroth wrote: Francis Raven wrote: How is this going anyways? I've been loosely following this thread and am just curious as to if you're getting some interest on your end, Kal? A few in-game convos, nothing more. I'm still offering support to anyone who might need it though. Might relax the requirements a bit Go to one of the in-game starter systems and you'll find a load of new people. It's fairly obvious who's actually new because they'll be flying around mining in Ibis and such. Bonus points if you answer some questions and help them with whatever they're stuck on in the tutorial/opportunities. The vast majority of new players never make it to the forum before they find a corp and get involved or give up and quit. PS - A vet handed me a stack of frigs and answered some questions while I was doing the tutorial (like why I couldn't mine without having fit my mining laser yet). I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have made it much past the tutorial without that interaction and help which got me interested in the game. Adventures New player with questions? Join my public channel in game: *House Forelli* Titan's Lament

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