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Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 10424	Posted - 2016.01.26 19:05:18 - [1] - Quote I was right, this is National Bad Ideas Day :( Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 10587	Posted - 2016.02.04 15:22:13 - [2] - Quote Bella Jennie wrote: Once again, I'm talking about HIGHSEC, I'm talking about assigning CONSEQUENCES to criminal behavior in HIGHSEC Are you on crazy pills? There already are consequences to criminal behaviour in highsec - liquidation by CONCORD. That is a consequence, and a pretty final one. Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 10588	Posted - 2016.02.04 15:33:57 - [3] - Quote I am fully cognisant of the nature of this thread - however, insofar as CCP's rules outline, bumping is not a criminal activity and cannot be punished. Stealing from others and shooting MTUs? I guess that these are petty crimes, which is why CCP allows for suspect status, so that the aggrieved capsuleer can take matters into their own hands and deal with the interloper. Unprovoked destruction? Well, that's more serious and that's why we have a police force to enforce the consequences of the attacker's actions. Bumping? Not a crime at all (not a punishable action, nor an exploit), so no intervention by game mechanics required. Imagine you got your way, though, and CCP succumbed to the sheer weight of carebearism and made bumping a crime - where would you draw the line? What if I playfully bumped your mission battleship in my interceptor on the station undock? Would that action warrant CONCORD coming in full force and blasting me to smithereens? Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 10588	Posted - 2016.02.04 15:44:16 - [4] - Quote Mag's wrote: Bumblefck wrote: What if I playfully bumped your mission battleship in my interceptor on the station undock? Would that action warrant CONCORD coming in full force and blasting me to smithereens? You would be a douchbag with mental issues. Didn't you know? But of course, how silly of me Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 10589	Posted - 2016.02.04 15:48:43 - [5] - Quote Bella Jennie wrote: Mag's wrote: Bella Jennie wrote: Mark my words: when they are ABLE TO, CCP will correct the unbalanced BUMPING paradigm. - anyone with reasonable logic and intelligence (and not a douchebag) could see that. Do you have evidence or facts to back that up. Or should we just accept your word on it? I prefer you just accept my word.. So no facts whatsoever, then. Who is your main? It seems, given that you are such a fan of them, some consequences should perhaps come home to roost. Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 10589	Posted - 2016.02.04 15:54:16 - [6] - Quote Bumblefck wrote: Who is your main (Bella Jennie)? It seems, given that you are such a fan of them, some consequences should perhaps come home to roost. Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 10591	Posted - 2016.02.04 15:58:12 - [7] - Quote Bella Jennie wrote: Daichi Yamato wrote: Bella, perhaps you should have read up on the game before investing in it. assume much? As you also seem to do. Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 10592	Posted - 2016.02.04 17:05:04 - [8] - Quote Bumblefck wrote: Who is your main (Bella Jennie)? It seems, given that you are such a fan of them, some consequences should perhaps come home to roost. Third time I've posted this, but not really expecting a serious response beyond "WTF DOES THAT HAVE TO WITH ANYTHING?" Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 10595	Posted - 2016.02.04 17:42:34 - [9] - Quote Bumblefck wrote: Who is your main (Bella Jennie)? It seems, given that you are such a fan of them, some consequences should perhaps come home to roost. Fourth time's a charm? Come on. You have nothing to fear from me - I'm a terrible PVPer. I just want to know in the interests of integrity and, you know, those consequences you keep on going on about. Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 10598	Posted - 2016.02.04 17:58:13 - [10] - Quote Bella Jennie wrote: I reported your post for STALKING, SPAMMING, TROLLING.. Grow up Are you serious? I'm asking a pertinent question (which you are deliberately avoiding, even expressly declining to answer would still be an answer) - it's pertinent because, as your whole argument focuses on the primacy of CONSEQUENCES, I think that it is important that the CONSEQUENCES you face from your POSTS should be ADDRESSED. Also, how am I stalking you? Is this thread your private property? Do you have some exemption that stops people form commenting on what you've written? How ARROGANT and CHILDISH are YOU? If you don't like what I write, please feel free to block me - otherwise, LIKE it or LUMP it! Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log

Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 10598	Posted - 2016.02.04 18:04:15 - [11] - Quote Bella Jennie wrote: great idea! BLOCKED Brilliant! Now, I will give some spacebux to whoever quotes this and any subsequent post so that the OP may see my 'stalking'! Until CCP deems bumping criminal behaviour, OP, you don't have a leg to stand on - and all of your drivel is so much farting in the wind. Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 10598	Posted - 2016.02.04 18:05:04 - [12] - Quote Also, this thread is so much better than the Likes and Get Likes Thread for like whoring. Gold! Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 10606	Posted - 2016.02.04 18:20:24 - [13] - Quote Mag's wrote: Bumblefck wrote: Also, this thread is so much better than the Likes and Get Likes Thread for like whoring. Gold! Have a space like sir. ...and have one right back atcha! I hope you don't feel that I'm 'bumping' you with all of the attention, though! Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 10606	Posted - 2016.02.04 18:22:12 - [14] - Quote Bella Jennie wrote: Can you dig it? He can We can I can You, unfortunately, cannot You are wrong, your premises are faulty, and the more you type, the deeper the mendacious hole you dig. That is all (for now) Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 10609	Posted - 2016.02.04 18:30:58 - [15] - Quote Bella Jennie wrote: OMG these "uber players" badmouth "carebear's Whining" yet I have never seen such a huge procession of the badly butthurt! Are you looking in the mirror again? You are, aren't you? Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 10609	Posted - 2016.02.04 18:34:28 - [16] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Bumblefck wrote: Bella Jennie wrote: OMG these "uber players" badmouth "carebear's Whining" yet I have never seen such a huge procession of the badly butthurt! Are you looking in the mirror again? You are, aren't you? Not only that, but in more ways than one. Sure seems to me like they're having their main agree with them in the thread, so this is a mirror match. Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 10615	Posted - 2016.02.04 18:57:32 - [17] - Quote Enabran' Tain wrote: This would literally work. Solution: Create a game mechanic that works like this: If one player bumps another a certain number of times within a certain amount of time, the aggressor gets a suspect timer for just the aggressed and everyone in his fleet, to attack. Example: Bumper bumps an orca 5 times in 30 minutes, he gets a suspect timer and can be shot. Conclusion: There is no instance or reason someone could bump into someone, outside their fleet, 5 times in 30 minutes unless it was on purpose. That's a terrible idea NPC alt, a terrible idea - who cares if the bumping is done on purpose? It's a level of handholding and unacceptance of the risks of docking that simply does not gel with the ethos of the game. You wouldn't argue for an automatic suspect flag when someone undercuts your market order by 0.01 isk, would you?! (although that might actually be kind of awesome). You might as well propose fitting T3 Candyfloss around all of our ships, while you're at it Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 10615	Posted - 2016.02.04 21:32:23 - [18] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Problem: NPC corp alts being used to troll without consequences. Solution: Ban all NPC corp characters from posting in Player Features and Ideas Discussion. Conclusion: MUCH less consequence-free trolling. Quoting for truth and justice Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log

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