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Redd Aurora
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.26 18:57:08 -
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What's the easiest way to make ISK so I can Buy a PLEX. I don't use credit cards. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.01.26 18:57:46 -
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try paypal
Better the Devil you know.
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Redd Aurora
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.26 19:02:06 -
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It requires a credit card attached to my bank account. No thanks |

Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.01.26 19:14:24 -
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debit cards will work too.
Better the Devil you know.
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Isaac Armer
The Soup Kitchen
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Posted - 2016.01.26 19:35:06 -
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100% unrelated, but why not use credit cards? I never carry a balance (and have never paid a penny in interest charges) and make over $1,000 in points and miles off of credit cards last year for free. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.01.26 19:44:17 -
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op you are aware this is a subscription mmo right?
Better the Devil you know.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out
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Posted - 2016.01.26 19:49:16 -
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You can mine asteroids, but the activity will be monotonous and won't pay very well unless you either harvest massive quantities of resources or go out into dangerous places where you may be blown up. You can grind missions. But they will destroy your soul after awhile. You can run Incursions, but you need high skills to run them. You can manage Planetary Resource systems and harvest their resources, but this is time consuming and it has a long "ramp up" time. You can explore, but the money is not always reliable. You can produce high-margin ships, but you need a fair bit of skills, capital, and knowhow to be efficient. You can sell moon materials, but you need capital to set up the infrastructure and allies to protect it.
Basically, there is no easy way to make ISK without investing a fair bit of time, resources, and sanity. Also... you don't want to rely on PLEX as a means to play EVE. It will make it i to a second job.
On a side note: I really get suspicious of people who say they don't have credit cards, don't want to use paypal, etc. Cash isn't always a viable way to pay for everything.
How did you Veterans start?
"Learn how things work. The intricacies, interactions, and hard limits... knowing these things will grant you far more power in the long run."
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10428
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Posted - 2016.01.26 19:49:23 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:op you are aware this is a subscription mmo right?
My Bumble-senses are tingling a 'no' on this one Ralph
BTW OP, do you know that Paypal allows residents of several countries the ability to debit your bank account directly?
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Centis Adjani
Adjani Corporation
111
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Posted - 2016.01.26 19:53:15 -
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Redd Aurora wrote:What's the easiest way to make ISK so I can Buy a PLEX. I don't use credit cards.
The easiest way... Move to Jita. Sit in Station the whole day. Spam the local chat with your ISK doubling scam. Earn ISK from the dumb people which fall for this.
But i am not sure if this is what you want from the game: Just sit in station the whole day and sent spam in local chat. And I am not sure if you really earn 1,2 Billion ISK for a PLEX in one month with this.
Anyway the easiest way (you asked for) is scamming other players. |

Netan MalDoran
Last Garrison
186
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Posted - 2016.01.26 19:56:25 -
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Redd Aurora wrote:It requires a credit card attached to my bank account. No thanks
You high bro? Paypal doesnt need credit cards, hell it technically doesnt even need a bank account connected to it.
Try google, you will turn into a digital god.
I just pay through my debit card directly.
Oh, and if you want to pay for the game ingame, then you would have to work about 60 EvE hours to pay for a plex, if you just had a real job, you would have enough for 24 plex in the same amount of time ._.
"Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was!
Falcon's truth
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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
614
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Posted - 2016.01.26 20:10:49 -
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there are debit cards that can be used as a credit card. They can even be bought at some convenience stores. Go to 7-11 buy a pre-charged visa for $20. Then just recharge it next month.
My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
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Ginnie
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2016.01.26 20:46:35 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:I really get suspicious of people who say they don't have credit cards, don't want to use paypal, etc. Cash isn't always a viable way to pay for everything.
I haven't use cash in years...literally years...
All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream. -Edgar Allan Poe
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Isaac Armer
The Soup Kitchen
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Posted - 2016.01.26 20:55:27 -
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Ginnie wrote:I haven't use cash in years...literally years...
I get a new card at least once/year to take advantage of the free 30,000-50,000 points and/or miles you get from signing up.
Still haven't paid a penny in interest charges in my life. |

Memphis Baas
993
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Posted - 2016.01.26 21:38:46 -
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No need to be suspicious; there is a group of people who just want to grind ISK to pay for EVE via PLEX, for whatever reasons. Can't convince them not do to it.
There are no secret methods; you got the ISK/hr methods (mining, agent missions, exploration, PI, FW, belt ratting), you got the % invested methods (trading, manufacturing, courier contracts), and you have the "do you feel lucky" methods (suicide-ganking a rich target, piracy, corp theft, scams, begging, extortion war declarations). Everyone is in high-sec so it's really crowded and crappy rewards; if you go to low-sec, null, or wormholes the rewards increase to the point where you could make the 1B / month somewhat easily, but you get increased risk of being PVP'ed. |

Ginnie
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
85
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Posted - 2016.01.26 21:53:12 -
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Isaac Armer wrote:I get a new card at least once/year to take advantage of the free 30,000-50,000 points and/or miles you get from signing up.
Still haven't paid a penny in interest charges in my life.
I've had the same AMEX card for years and years. I used to have a Fidelity Investments AMEX; awesome benefits (2% cash back automatically deposited back into my brokerage account after I paid the card off monthly), but I went to work for Charles Schwab and had to transfer all of my assets to Schwab (a very beneficial happen stance), but lost the Fidelity card.
Charles Schwab doesn't offer a credit card so I defaulted back to my old AMEX, which I had prior to Fidelity's AMEX. It has excellent benefits like traveler's insurance, lost baggage, extended warranties on stuff I buy with it, its great.
The points, eh, I could take them or leave them, but they don't matter to me really.
All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream. -Edgar Allan Poe
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Isaac Armer
The Soup Kitchen
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Posted - 2016.01.26 22:15:36 -
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Ginnie wrote:I've had the same AMEX card for years and years. I used to have a Fidelity Investments AMEX; awesome benefits (2% cash back automatically deposited back into my brokerage account after I paid the card off monthly), but I went to work for Charles Schwab and had to transfer all of my assets to Schwab (a very beneficial happen stance), but lost the Fidelity card.
Charles Schwab doesn't offer a credit card so I defaulted back to my old AMEX, which I had prior to Fidelity's AMEX. It has excellent benefits like traveler's insurance, lost baggage, extended warranties on stuff I buy with it, its great.
The points, eh, I could take them or leave them, but they don't matter to me really.
I have the chase freedom as my main card. It gives me 5% cash back in rotating categories, so until the end of March I get 5% cash back in gas stations and mass transit. So basically I find a gas station that sells gift cards to a local grocery store, home depot, etc. I can buy a few hundred dollars of gift cards to other stores, get 5% on it, then use gift cards for my day to day shopping for a few months. Starting in April, I will get 5% back in grocery stores, so I'll buy gift cards in a grocery store to restaurants I go to, just to get more reward points.
There used to be a deal (they shut it down a year ago, unfortunately) where you could send $1,000/mo to someone else through Amazon, and charge it to your credit card. I sent $1k/mo to my girlfriend, she used the money to immediately pay off the credit card, so I got a free $1k/mo worth of points from that.
Take the Sapphire card, for example. You get 50,000 points for signing up for it (worth $625 in airfare). It has an annual fee, but that's waived for the first year. Open the card, get the points, transfer them to a card without a fee, then close the sapphire card. Free $625 ticket for air travel or a hotel. As soon as you close the sapphire, open a new one as soon as you close the sapphire card and keep getting free points.
It only hurts your credit score by about 10 points to churn cards like that, so assuming you aren't going to buy a house/car/etc in the next year, there really is no downside (and you can pull you score up by those 10 points in a few months easily).
Playing these games got me 110,000 points last year (worth around $1,300 in airfare/hotel costs).
tl/dr, if you keep track of stuff, and always pay off cards before interest payments hit, you can get credit cards to pay for a vacation every year. |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1863
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Posted - 2016.01.26 22:51:57 -
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Ok as a new player with a female Avatar the obvious way to make ISK is begging.
Basically write a keyboard macro that types in chat something like "OMG I am a new player and I spent all my isk on *insert ship or cargo here and now I have been blown up by *insert culprit such as CODE here and lost everything. I have no idea what to do now." |

ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1114
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Posted - 2016.01.26 23:07:22 -
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OP if you NEED to earn the isk for a PLEX this game will turn into a job and you won't like it. I can save you the hassle now and tell you just pay for the sub or play another game.
I'm not saying that you can not earn enough isk to buy a PLEX without the game sucking but what I am saying is that if you are looking for how to make isk and not how to have fun and you are doing the isk making thing for 60-80 hours per month then it will be a job. An extremely low paying job.
Games are for fun. Jobs are for making money. |

J'Poll
Perkone Caldari State
6258
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Posted - 2016.01.26 23:08:19 -
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Redd Aurora wrote:What's the easiest way to make ISK so I can Buy a PLEX. I don't use credit cards.
Then good luck
Tip, get a (part time / 2nd) job and use that to pay for EVE, it's a better paid solution then grinding in EVE.
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J'Poll
Perkone Caldari State
6258
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Posted - 2016.01.26 23:09:08 -
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Redd Aurora wrote:It requires a credit card attached to my bank account. No thanks
My 6 years of paying EVE through PayPal say something different.
As I don't even own a CC.
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Mephiztopheleze
Republic University Minmatar Republic
483
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Posted - 2016.01.27 01:18:48 -
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Redd Aurora wrote:It requires a credit card attached to my bank account. No thanks use a pre-paid credit card?
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Tialano Utrigas
Running with Dogs Stella Nova
99
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Posted - 2016.01.27 13:11:53 -
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OK so I read this as an "I do not want to pay for my subscription" post so no idea why everyones talking about Credit Cards, Debit Cards and Paypal.
I could be wrong of course.
I think the only feasible way of doing it as a newbro which doesnt require major skills or startup ISK and still provide enough ISK per month to actually buy a plex is null sec exploration.
Theres a good blog about it somewhere. Someone will need to link it though. |

Thorian Baalnorn
Bad Influence I N G L O R I O U S
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Posted - 2016.01.27 14:02:15 -
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To pay for an account using ISK your going to need several months of training to get the skills required to make the isk. Then you will have to invest in the materials you need to make such isk such as a ship would probably be a good idea. Then your going to have to either grind until your eyes fall out or your going to have to go to high risk areas and hope you dont get blown up.
It is not profitable to attempt to play for free. You wont enjoy the game and if you fall short one month you are done. Instead plex should be used for the other services and as a backup in case you run into trouble later and need to pay for a month with isk for whatever reason. However you could get even the lowest paying job in any modern country and pay for anywhere from 2-6 months on a days wages depending on where you live. Also bang for buck wise... plexes are more expensive than a sub.
When i was...poor, i would use change to pay for eve. I would save all my change for the month and that was my eve allowance, Usually about $20-$30 a month.
Real life pro tip: The 1970s called and want their checkbook back. You live in an age of plastic and electronic debt payments. And they make life much easier. For example i spend 0 amount of hours per month paying bills. If i had to do it the old school way it would be a 4 hour job in the very least. Another 10 years and there wont be many places that take checks or cash. They are both a liability. Checks you run the risk of it bouncing and cash you run the risk of theft and counterfit.
Shooting Structures = PVP Mining
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
253
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Posted - 2016.01.27 15:48:42 -
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Tialano Utrigas wrote:OK so I read this as an "I do not want to pay for my subscription" post so no idea why everyones talking about Credit Cards, Debit Cards and Paypal.
I could be wrong of course.
I think the only feasible way of doing it as a newbro which doesnt require major skills or startup ISK and still provide enough ISK per month to actually buy a plex is null sec exploration.
Theres a good blog about it somewhere. Someone will need to link it though.
oh dude, trust me they (we) get it, they're joking.
@op, if you try to earn isk to PLEX this early on in year EvE career then you'll hate this game more than anything.
if you can't pay $15/month then you have bigger problems and better attend that first instead of playing video games. if you have money but just hate paying then this game is not for you.
good luck. o7
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Vol Arm'OOO
Bagel and Lox
769
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Posted - 2016.01.27 16:14:38 -
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Redd Aurora wrote:What's the easiest way to make ISK so I can Buy a PLEX. I don't use credit cards.
The easiest way is to scam it. You can do it with a day old toon, that never leaves jita.
I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1864
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Posted - 2016.01.27 23:36:43 -
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There are any number of legitimate reason to not have a credit card: - you are underaged - you are bankrupt - religious (though oddly the Amish do use Credit Cards) - truly awful credit ratings - you are hiding from the law using a fake identity
.. to name a few.
Fortunately it is not essential to have a credit card and Paypal by direct deposit will work.
If the issue is no money - well earning a PLEX a month is relatively easy once you have a character with 10 or 20 mill SP but only station trading or scamming will do it with a new character. |

J'Poll
Perkone Caldari State
6267
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Posted - 2016.01.30 15:38:38 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:There are any number of legitimate reason to not have a credit card: - you are underaged - you are bankrupt - religious (though oddly the Amish do use Credit Cards) - truly awful credit ratings - you are hiding from the law using a fake identity
.. to name a few.
Fortunately it is not essential to have a credit card and Paypal by direct deposit will work.
If the issue is no money - well earning a PLEX a month is relatively easy once you have a character with 10 or 20 mill SP but only station trading or scamming will do it with a new character.
Another reason you don't have a CC:
- You are not a stupid American that pays every single things on credit.
I pay for stuff, with money I have, not money I might have in the future if I'm lucky.
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Vasko Ecclesiarch
Noobwaffe
4
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Posted - 2016.01.30 16:20:41 -
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Subbing is like $10 per month OP. It really isn't that much. Buying PLEX is really not a goal you want to set early on, or you will start playing Eve like it's a job. |

Vasko Ecclesiarch
Noobwaffe
4
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Posted - 2016.01.30 16:23:02 -
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J'Poll wrote:I pay for stuff, with money I have, not money I might have in the future if I'm lucky. Good advice here. Live within your means. |

Hibbe
Out of Pod Experience
4
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Posted - 2016.01.30 17:49:49 -
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try scamming in Jita |
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