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nameloading
Excognative Ignorance Short Bus Syndicate
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Posted - 2016.01.27 09:39:14 -
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hey ccp,
hey just wanted to first ask how you guys were doing??? i needed to voice some concern over the new models that are on sisi for the FAX capital ships. after watching viideos and looking at them myself. they just look awful in every way shape and form. sure they match there racial components but for christ sake they are just ugly and not remotly appealing to the eye. i know that during large fleet fight anyway most of us are zoomed out to save our grpahics card some stress but these are just awful and i hope you guys re look at these ships. im not trying to start a war with other players but just trying to let my voice be heard on something. (Cause as ive been told a billion and one times reddit isnt the place)
that being said I F-ING love the new citadels and i can wait to littler my little slice of null with these things <333333333333333333 seriously threse are the most exciting things i have heard about in eve since ....well....i cant remember
hope some of you devs read <33 fly safe
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
3784
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Posted - 2016.01.27 09:41:53 -
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I think they are ashamed because they dont even show them to anyone, they dont provide pretty pictures. Just like you would try to hide your mutated children not to scare other people.
( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ =ƒÅ¦ - my sandcastle
Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò
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nameloading
Excognative Ignorance Short Bus Syndicate
4
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Posted - 2016.01.27 10:04:40 -
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i mean there is ugly and then there is FAX ugly. |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2336
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Posted - 2016.01.27 10:22:50 -
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how about screenshots?
"Yeah. Put your tears in a jet can and leave them on your undock for your assailants to pick up. If they're camping you, I'm sure they're going to get thirsty." - Darth Squeemus
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Angel Cartel || Serpentis
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Alhira Katserna
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
2118
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Posted - 2016.01.27 10:23:00 -
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Somehow the Gallente one looks appealing imo. But the rest is really ugly. |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
2933
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Posted - 2016.01.27 10:46:30 -
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Don't like them, make a new model to the same scale and detail keeping the racial design characteristics and FAX characteristics while making them pretty. |
Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
3788
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Posted - 2016.01.27 11:47:00 -
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Lan Wang wrote:how about screenshots? Video In short, they look like flying structures. There is nothing classic about them. They are completely different, and when I have seen them all, its like WTF is this. The Amarr one looks like chapel.
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xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers EVEolution.
422
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Posted - 2016.01.27 12:08:58 -
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beauty is in the eye of the beholder i think they look great :) |
Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
3791
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Posted - 2016.01.27 12:11:26 -
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Oh, yes, they are somewhat resembling mechanical beholders, with a maw widely opened.
I think I have a very fitting word to describe them: MONSTROUS.
( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ =ƒÅ¦ - my sandcastle
Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2337
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Posted - 2016.01.27 12:14:12 -
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i think they look good!
"Yeah. Put your tears in a jet can and leave them on your undock for your assailants to pick up. If they're camping you, I'm sure they're going to get thirsty." - Darth Squeemus
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Angel Cartel || Serpentis
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Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
1035
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Posted - 2016.01.27 12:39:56 -
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Not my cup of tea expected minmatar one to be thinish instead its fat cardbox with yellow eyes..gallente one is passable.
Typhoon Fleet Issue SOE skin for the win.
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Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
554
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Posted - 2016.01.27 12:49:45 -
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All good things are only good in moderation. There are too many vertical ships now. |
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
252
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Posted - 2016.01.27 13:05:43 -
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not as ugly as you though, OP, which is good.
Just Add Water
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MidnightWyvern
Night Theifs
165
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Posted - 2016.01.27 13:28:39 -
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I'd say they LOOK like dedicated support ships. Hell, look up most repair oriented naval vessels in the world today, and you'll see they aren't very pleasing to the eye.
When I look at those I immediately think of repair beams all over the place. I'd imagine CCP designed them to look like flying dry-dock-shelters, and that's exactly what they look like.
I like it.
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Mr Mieyli
Hedion University Amarr Empire
144
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Posted - 2016.01.27 13:38:27 -
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Then: CCP we need more vertical ships. VERTICAL!!1!
Now: oh no not like this !
Edit: I'd have to agree that they look like proper support ships, while they might look somewhat like a mobile station they basically are mobile repair platforms so I think it's fitting. I like the look of them overall but the minmatar one has a few too many sticky-out parts in my opinion.
A case for more AoE in EvE
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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
628
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Posted - 2016.01.27 14:28:51 -
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So why is the Amarr ship standing vertical, but the engines are on the bottom? >>
I do think the Amarr and Minmatar don't even look like ships, more like mini citadels, the Gallante and Caldari at least look like ships.
And why are the engines perpendicular to the flight vector again? Fly Amarr, we go SIDEWAYS!
Just think how the Amarr FAX will look when it is set on the proper plane. It will look like a Station that fell over.
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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
628
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Posted - 2016.01.27 14:39:08 -
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MidnightWyvern wrote:I'd say they LOOK like dedicated support ships. Hell, look up most repair oriented naval vessels in the world today, and you'll see they aren't very pleasing to the eye.
When I look at those I immediately think of repair beams all over the place. I'd imagine CCP designed them to look like flying dry-dock-shelters, and that's exactly what they look like.
I like it.
Nah. Dedicated support ships still look like ships. Really, in counter to another poster, I'd expect support ships to have a lot more sticking out parts.
My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
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xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers EVEolution.
424
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Posted - 2016.01.27 14:46:02 -
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only ever going to please some people, can't please everyone. would have been nice to see them beside another ship to show scale. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10443
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Posted - 2016.01.27 19:38:46 -
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People still use faxes?
e: outside of Japan, that is
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
2529
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Posted - 2016.01.27 19:57:21 -
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Looks like mobile repair stations or something like that. If that was the goal then mission accomplished. If not, welp... |
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
794
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Posted - 2016.01.27 20:01:09 -
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Iria Ahrens wrote:So why is the Amarr ship standing vertical, but the engines are on the bottom? >>
I do think the Amarr and Minmatar don't even look like ships, more like mini citadels, the Gallante and Caldari at least look like ships.
And why are the engines perpendicular to the flight vector again? Fly Amarr, we go SIDEWAYS!
Just think how the Amarr FAX will look when it is set on the proper plane. It will look like a Station that fell over.
Perhaps CCP is adding variable geometry to them so that the ship will pull a Transformers and change when in and out of triage like how Marauders do with Bastion (hopefully not as subtle though and more like T3D sub modes).
Either that or maybe those are not the engines. The Macharial has always had a mysteriously unused spare engine pod, and the Confessor has a couple of oddly angled "unused" engines too if I recall.
They look fine. Obviously, CCP wanted them to stand out when present on the battlefield, and they do. Don't like the way every ship in the game looks myself, but my only beef is with ships that haven't been updated, the rest are still look good just not my personal liking which is perfectly fine. Don't like them, don't fly them.
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Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
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Posted - 2016.01.27 20:22:33 -
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They look like moving stations, cool :D
also
F R E A K I N G
V E R T I C A L
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
1080
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Posted - 2016.01.27 20:29:04 -
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Weird stuff. Weird is good. There was way too much mainstream design the last couple of years.
+1 CCP!
Remove insurance.
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Mr Floydy
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
306
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Posted - 2016.01.27 21:14:33 -
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They're odd looking things but it's a given that that'll have transformation animations. I fully expect them to look ship like when moving and station like when triaged. We'll see though, I'm certainly looking forward to having some very different looking ships in the game which still feel pretty much in keeping with the current art style. |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
561
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Posted - 2016.01.27 21:17:33 -
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Iria Ahrens wrote:And why are the engines perpendicular to the flight vector again? Fly Amarr, we go SIDEWAYS!
Of course it has engines pointing down. How else would it be able to hover? It's a VTOL craft. |
Tiddle Jr
Brutor tribe Minmatar Republic
751
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Posted - 2016.01.27 22:11:20 -
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Gallente one is like hybrid of Moros and Myrmidon. Caldai reminds me an ancient battle helmet with modern design.
Rest of them look like racial POSes. Unfortunatelly those are not ships by design. CCP Art department got scew'ed up first time i guess. Rush is the worst help you could count on.
Please re-do. |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
562
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Posted - 2016.01.27 22:18:03 -
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By the way - despite all the snarky remarks, I do like these designs for the most part. My only complaint, if I were to complain, which I am not, would be that the Caldari and the Minmatar FAX look a bit too similar. |
NeoShocker
Oppose Militancy and Neutralize Invasion. Exodus.
219
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Posted - 2016.01.28 05:46:50 -
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I must agree with OP. This is my first post in a long while for eve forums, and I must say those models are terrible. Looks like flying stations. What bugs me most is the amarr one, engine on the bottom? I know its a game, but ... How the hell does that work? Gallente one is fine, but the rest ... No.
I must appeal to CCP to reconsider the models and try again. Sure its my opinion, but nope! Please redesign the models! |
Mephiztopheleze
Republic University Minmatar Republic
487
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Posted - 2016.01.28 06:08:30 -
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Working in the graphic design and media field as I do; I'm gonna go with 'work in progress' here.
Between Citadels, Skins, some ship remodels AND the Command Destroyer and Faux class models to work on, they have had a lot on their plate lately.
Millions of polygons, sprites and the myriad thousands of other graphical assets don't just appear in the Job Done folder the minute they're dreamed up.
Some poor schmuck, ensconced away under many feet of snow; and quite possibly still nursing the mother of all NYE hangovers; has had to create those assets. Those same poor schmucks deserve a little bit more credit for the work they HAVE done in getting enough stuff together to allow a SiSi test of the new game mechanics.
The beauty and polish will come in due course. In the meantime; do we think we can find it in ourselves to give the art squad a break and let them actually do their jobs prior to rollout on TQ before having a whinge on forums?
Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze
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Tiddle Jr
Brutor tribe Minmatar Republic
753
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Posted - 2016.01.28 06:32:15 -
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Mephiztopheleze wrote:Working in the graphic design and media field as I do; I'm gonna go with 'work in progress' here.
Between Citadels, Skins, some ship remodels AND the Command Destroyer and Faux class models to work on, they have had a lot on their plate lately.
Millions of polygons, sprites and the myriad thousands of other graphical assets don't just appear in the Job Done folder the minute they're dreamed up.
Some poor schmuck, ensconced away under many feet of snow; and quite possibly still nursing the mother of all NYE hangovers; has had to create those assets. Those same poor schmucks deserve a little bit more credit for the work they HAVE done in getting enough stuff together to allow a SiSi test of the new game mechanics.
The beauty and polish will come in due course. In the meantime; do we think we can find it in ourselves to give the art squad a break and let them actually do their jobs prior to rollout on TQ before having a whinge on forums?
True about hard work, but listen i'm sure nobody force them do do it in such stressfull schedule. When they announced that they have already did some calculatuon on possible manhours. These FAX look halfcooked stuff tbh. Nevertheless with all regards to Art team. |
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Kuetlzelcoatl
26
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Posted - 2016.01.28 06:37:39 -
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I think these models look interesting and are completely acceptable for Eve Online.
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Mephiztopheleze
Republic University Minmatar Republic
487
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Posted - 2016.01.28 06:40:38 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:These FAX look halfcooked stuff tbh.
they are halfcooked, and there's nothing wrong with that at this stage of the development/rollout schedule.
that was my whole point.
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Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1048
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Posted - 2016.01.28 07:00:14 -
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Is it wrong that the Gallente FAX looks like a moros? Or is it just the trademark turd design?
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Miles Winter
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
16
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Posted - 2016.01.28 07:46:03 -
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I think the Caldari one looks alright, but the rest really aren't my cup of tea.
I get a vague Homeworld vibe from the vertical and 'structure/building' oriented style of it, but it really lacks the elements that made Homeworld's iconic mothership stand out and look nice.
The Apostle for example, is just a sort of lumpy tower. It just... doesn't evoke what I'd expect from a fleet auxiliary/repair ship. |
Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
3908
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Posted - 2016.01.28 08:37:16 -
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Miles Winter wrote:I think the Caldari one looks alright, but the rest really aren't my cup of tea.
I get a vague Homeworld vibe from the vertical and 'structure/building' oriented style of it, but it really lacks the elements that made Homeworld's iconic mothership stand out and look nice.
The Apostle for example, is just a sort of lumpy tower. It just... doesn't evoke what I'd expect from a fleet auxiliary/repair ship. However, even when you have seen many ships of similar function, do you expect every one of them to be slightly different copy of the former one?
Creating something completely different from what is available is in first place controversial.
Child born with 6 legs is "controversial" looking. A mother loves the child, no matter in what shape they are conceived. Same as CCP.
Sorry, but you will have to fly in these monstrous abominations. Call it Dr Frankenstein, Re-animator, Necromancer, Scrapdigger, or Support Pump, you will get the idea.
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Tiddle Jr
Brutor tribe Minmatar Republic
753
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Posted - 2016.01.28 08:43:23 -
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Nana Skalski wrote:Miles Winter wrote:I think the Caldari one looks alright, but the rest really aren't my cup of tea.
I get a vague Homeworld vibe from the vertical and 'structure/building' oriented style of it, but it really lacks the elements that made Homeworld's iconic mothership stand out and look nice.
The Apostle for example, is just a sort of lumpy tower. It just... doesn't evoke what I'd expect from a fleet auxiliary/repair ship. However, even when you have seen many ships of similar function, do you expect every one of them to be slightly different copy of the former one? Creating something completely different from what is available is in first place controversial. Child born with 6 legs is "controversial" looking. A mother loves the child, no matter in what shape they are conceived. Same as CCP.
In that case i would like my CONCORD RR's are fitted onto Prostitute, and it wasn't really worth of time they spent on doubtfull hulls. Cause Prostitute at least looks better than those flying objects. |
Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
3908
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Posted - 2016.01.28 08:49:20 -
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Just put a prostitute inside every ugly ship and pretend you had to do that to recruit full crew to fly this ugly ship.
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Mithandra
Catastrophic Operations Get Off My Lawn
450
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Posted - 2016.01.28 10:04:17 -
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I quite like em
Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
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xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers EVEolution.
426
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Posted - 2016.01.28 10:30:49 -
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If they look like stations, maybe that's a hint at how they'll work,, me thinks, to rep you'll need to be anchored in some form, making it exactly what they look like,, mini stations
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
3918
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Posted - 2016.01.28 10:47:59 -
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Considering how Triage Module works, this ships are "BIG TRIAGE MODULES" I think.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10470
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Posted - 2016.01.28 21:46:28 -
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FTFY, no charge this time, matey
Mephiztopheleze wrote: development/trollout schedule.
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Erien Rand
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
30
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Posted - 2016.01.28 22:15:24 -
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Well that's a good way to cut down on capitol logistics, make them so ugly no one wants to fly them |
Takari
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
507
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Posted - 2016.01.29 13:25:20 -
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These look amazing.
The Minmatar one looks too sturdy, though. Should have just made it look like a giant roll of Duct Tape and when it goes into Triage, have it look as though it's pulling a piece off of the roll..
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Welcome to EVE." ~ CCP Falcon
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Cixi
19
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Posted - 2016.01.29 13:37:42 -
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I actually like the designs except for the gallente one but its probably too late to change anything now |
Ibutho Inkosi
Irubo Kovu
68
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Posted - 2016.01.30 02:40:54 -
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You're not supposed to hide your mutated children? Geez. Well, at least don't bring them into restaurants...or malls.
As long as the tale of the hunt is told by the hunter, and not the lion, it will favor the hunter.
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nameloading
Excognative Ignorance Short Bus Syndicate
5
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Posted - 2016.01.30 08:03:20 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:not as ugly as you though, OP, which is good.
i really should invest in that resculpt thing >.>....
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nameloading
Excognative Ignorance Short Bus Syndicate
5
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Posted - 2016.01.30 08:06:56 -
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Mephiztopheleze wrote:Working in the graphic design and media field as I do; I'm gonna go with 'work in progress' here.
Between Citadels, Skins, some ship remodels AND the Command Destroyer and Faux class models to work on, they have had a lot on their plate lately.
Millions of polygons, sprites and the myriad thousands of other graphical assets don't just appear in the Job Done folder the minute they're dreamed up.
Some poor schmuck, ensconced away under many feet of snow; and quite possibly still nursing the mother of all NYE hangovers; has had to create those assets. Those same poor schmucks deserve a little bit more credit for the work they HAVE done in getting enough stuff together to allow a SiSi test of the new game mechanics.
The beauty and polish will come in due course. In the meantime; do we think we can find it in ourselves to give the art squad a break and let them actually do their jobs prior to rollout on TQ before having a whinge on forums?
normally i wait but i just wanted to voice my opinoion i respect these people and what they do but i just wanted the chance to stand up for my opinion
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Lugh Crow-Slave
1500
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Posted - 2016.02.03 14:03:58 -
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Food they forget they were making ships and not mini stations?
They all look nice but they do not look like ships
Citadel worm hole tax
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1706
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Posted - 2016.02.03 18:20:55 -
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I think they all went vertical so they could be big while still comfortably fitting inside a station hanger.
Making a good looking chunky vertical spaceship will always be a challenge. |
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