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Avvy
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Posted - 2016.01.28 17:55:08 -
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Alea wrote:Bruce Kemp wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:Silver linings and whatnot.
Think of all those PLEX fattened week old newbs flying around in their pimp fit battleships running level 2 and 3 missions.
Now, imagine if you will their mighty indignation at you swiping one of THEIR precious metal scraps.
Hilarity ensues, followed by buckets of tears.
This poses odd opportunities for preying on the stupid.
I for one look forward to dining on space veal. ^^ This  Most encounters would probably be by chance, I want to actively hunt them as a group or corp activity.
Hmm... you make bitter vets seem sweet in comparison. |
Avvy
Republic University
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Posted - 2016.01.28 18:09:23 -
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Nick Bete wrote:Please OP, enough of the elitist claptrap. Attitudes like yours are the very reason this game has such a bad reputation and why it will forever be a minor niche player in the space/sci-fi MMO genre.
Also, post with your main since you apparently have such noble and high-minded ideals about how to play Eve the "right" and "honorable" way. Or are you just another blowhard hypocritical forum warrior vomiting your silly ideas all over the place? Put your isk where your mouth is.
I get a feeling the op is just trolling, especially as 'FEELER' was used at the end of the title.
Probably trying to stir like minded people (if there are any) into some kind of action. |
Avvy
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.01.28 18:18:47 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Elukka wrote:It's actually surprising a game as old as EVE hasn't had any sort of catchup mechanic until this. I really don't mind that newer characters aren't forever restricted to lessr SP. isnt character bazaar a catchup mechanic?
No and yes.
You can catch up skill wise (with the bazaar) to some degree, but the character is never really yours in terms of its complete development.
Sp trading allows catch up to some degree with you controlling its skill development.
So there is a major difference (how major depends how you view your character/s). |
Avvy
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.01.28 18:42:34 -
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Lan Wang wrote:i see it as the same sort of thing really, you are paying for skills, api will always show you have bought skills either bazaar or skillpacks
I thought you might Lan.
We have clones which we can download our consciousness into. Why are we taking weeks/months to learn stuff anyway.
Ever see the film Outlander, where he crashes on Earth, set in our past. He uses a machine and downloads how to speak a language in a matter of a couple of minutes.
Learning character skills in this game is all about your choice of skill and time. Time is the major factor but time has nothing to do with your skills. You still get to choose which skills to train with sp trading, without the waiting around with no further input from the player until it finishes.
There's no skill in waiting for a skill to train. So does it matter if it's quicker? |
Avvy
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.01.28 19:46:10 -
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Avaelica Kuershin wrote:
So having already opened the way with the bazaar, is the only reason for the resistance to SP trading due to players having accepted the bazaar as a permanent part of the game?
Some people see it as a form of P2W and some are set against all forms of P2W. The bazaar wasn't popular with everyone.
Some people like to have a comfortable lead over others and would prefer to keep that lead.
Some don't like change because they're concerned of what might come next.
Some have played for years and feel that they've really developed the character themselves and feel that people that can short cut things are cheapening their achievement.
So there are various reasons.
However, the purity of the skill queue (community) was damaged with the introduction of the bazaar. Although individually you can maintain that purity if you so wish.
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Avvy
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.01.28 22:09:56 -
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Nana Skalski wrote:Injecting someones SP into you is really unhealthy, you dont know to who it belonged to. Maybe it was even the 3rd or 4th user of that SP!
Dont be an SP junkie.
Unless it can effect your consciousness, I wouldn't worry too much, the next clone you would be cured. |
Avvy
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.01.28 22:24:22 -
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Nana Skalski wrote:Avvy wrote:Nana Skalski wrote:Injecting someones SP into you is really unhealthy, you dont know to who it belonged to. Maybe it was even the 3rd or 4th user of that SP!
Dont be an SP junkie. Unless it can effect your consciousness, I wouldn't worry too much, the next clone you would be cured. But if they clone your mind and you have mental health problems? The future would not look so bright when You are Gallente and some Caldari nationalist will sell you some mental rootkit to brainwash you in the future and make you his spy.
I had already started thinking about my last post.
Iirc the consciousness is transferred to the new clone at the moment of death. But what happens if the brain is damaged prior to the transfer. Lets hope they keep a backup. |
Avvy
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.01.29 00:34:19 -
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Alea wrote:
What I'm against is CCPs new cash grab attempt by tempting players with purchasable SP, I personally feel that it is a way for players to indeed gain an (arguably a very small) advantage over other players that do not have the resources to do the same, if my understanding of this new feature is sound it would take a crazy amount of RL money to catch up to my lowest SP character so that I do not fear, what I fear is that this is a baby step in the direction of a full blown pay to win Eve online.
EVE has been selling PLEX for years as you must know. It isn't really any different, it's still a paid for advantage. In fact I believe it was CCPs PLEX that inspired GW2s gem system.
I remember more people complaining about in-game shops items for sale and saying similar things to what you are if people buy them.
The fact is those numbers of people complaining have been considerably reduced over the years. As more and more MMOs do variations of selling items and in-game currency. The companies have realised that players will spend money on in-game items and CCP know that sp trading will make them more.
I've played about 11 MMOs, it sounds like you mainly played this one and if that is the case then I can understand where your reasoning is coming from. But the fact is you are a few years too late and the sort of tactics you are thinking about did not work.
CCP was quick enough with PLEX, but they've been dragging their heels on other potential cash making in-game ventures.
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Avvy
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.01.29 18:36:44 -
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Pryce Caesar wrote:I wouldn't do that. Anyone who depends on the SP trading as a crutch wouldn't be worth the time, anyway. It's not a game-breaker, since its function is as a [b]time-saver
lol
I guess you think the same about those buying from the character bazaar then. Wonder how many of those you have in your corp/alliance. |
Avvy
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.01.31 11:51:12 -
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Alea wrote:
CCP may agree with you but I feel if you're going to artificially enhance your character it should be reflected somewhere in that characters information.
With a character from the bazaar it matters as the character originally belonged to someone else.
But with sp packets it doesn't matter as the character remains yours. You will get some idea anyway from the date of birth of the character.
People keep thinking about how their character compares to someone else's. Well it no longer matters and hasn't done since the character bazaar. A lot of people have used the bazaar, so the purity of the skill queue (community) has for all time been tainted. So instead of worrying about the purity in someone else's skill queue concentrate on the purity of your own skill queue if that's what you want to do.
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