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Infinity Ziona Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.28 23:34:00 - [1] No. Its time for.. Drum Roll... EvE Online II - The Final Final Genesis Featuring - * Seamless station to space and space to station transitions * Seamless gate to system and system to gate transitions * In station mobility * Casino's! * A space lounge, where you can view through the lounge window; your friends docking and undocking and your enemies lurking * Planetary flight * Non-Oceanic space physics! oh yah and * Multiple servers Just have to wait for Sony or Blizzard to buy out CCP The Privateering Life
Infinity Ziona Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.29 00:01:00 - [2] Originally by: Heljarsnadi No. A new server would ruin EvE - It would lose the whole "single shard" mojo. And if you're lagging, really, leave the hubs. The only places which I lag in are the hubs (Jita, mission running hubs, etcetera).. The 'single server mojo' is a myth. The primary thing single server does is allow marketing to claim 'single largest unsharded' in their blurbs; it does nothing positive for you regards to gameplay other then to provide maximum target numbers for war declarations. As a long time player, starting in 2003, EvE felt best to me at around 10k at peak times; enough to fight and sell to buy from. And the reality is, there is the China Cluster, I can play on it and so can you if you like. I am still waiting for someone to give a reasonable argument as to how a totally separate server could possibly have a negative effect on Tranquility and the gameplay of people on Tranquility. I think its taken so long for that because there is not real and logical argument to be made other then the 'emotive and elusive reasoning -> It'd feel sooo rooongg'. The Privateering Life
Infinity Ziona Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.29 01:08:00 - [3] Originally by: Taedrin Originally by: Infinity Ziona Originally by: Heljarsnadi No. A new server would ruin EvE - It would lose the whole "single shard" mojo. And if you're lagging, really, leave the hubs. The only places which I lag in are the hubs (Jita, mission running hubs, etcetera).. The 'single server mojo' is a myth. The primary thing single server does is allow marketing to claim 'single largest unsharded' in their blurbs; it does nothing positive for you regards to gameplay other then to provide maximum target numbers for war declarations. As a long time player, starting in 2003, EvE felt best to me at around 10k at peak times; enough to fight and sell to buy from. And the reality is, there is the China Cluster, I can play on it and so can you if you like. I thought you had to be a citizen of China to play on the China server, by Chinese law? I am still waiting for someone to give a reasonable argument as to how a totally separate server could possibly have a negative effect on Tranquility and the gameplay of people on Tranquility. I think its taken so long for that because there is not real and logical argument to be made other then the 'emotive and elusive reasoning -> It'd feel sooo rooongg'. You only need worry about Chinese law if you live in China. The Privateering Life
Infinity Ziona Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.29 05:45:00 - [4] Originally by: Anatolius Originally by: Infinity Ziona it does nothing positive for you regards to gameplay other then to provide maximum target numbers for war declarations. How completely wrong you are. I think you need to qualify that with a reason I am wrong Originally by: Anatolius Originally by: Infinity Ziona And the reality is, there is the China Cluster, I can play on it and so can you if you like. China isn't even the same game. CCP stated when the cluster came out in China that it would be running the same build as Tranquility. Originally by: Anatolius Originally by: Infinity Ziona I am still waiting for someone to give a reasonable argument as to how a totally separate server could possibly have a negative effect on Tranquility and the gameplay of people on Tranquility. The total and utter destruction of responsibility and reputation in EVE? I'm still waiting for someone to give a reasonable argument of how a totally seperate server could possibly have a positive effect on Tranquility. How would responsibility and reputation be affected? Does the chinese cluster remove responsibility and reputational consequences on Tranq and vice versa? No because they are essentially disconnected and completely removed from each other. Originally by: Anatolius Originally by: Infinity Ziona I think its taken so long for that because there is not real and logical argument to be made other then the 'emotive and elusive reasoning -> It'd feel sooo rooongg'. You first. Please to come up with something other than, "Uh, uh, somehow, lag won't magically happen!" Lag will always happen regardless of server congestion but I think there would be reduced lag as many opted for a new server experience. Likewise queue times would drop. Positive Effects of a new server(s): 1. More subscriptions from people wanting to play EvE but unwilling to start 4+ years or 60,000,000+ skillpoints behind in skill training, or not wanting to compete with dominating and largely unbeatable uber-corps like Band of Brothers. 2. Less dominated 0.0 and low sec, a less congested market and less impact by macroers / isk sellers. 3. The thrill of being pioneers instead of newb cannonfodder. 4. The ability for CCP to match their hardware, software and management of EvE with a set and known quantity of maximum #'s rather then playing catch and patch with the code. IMO the 3 top points above being the way they are, are major turn-offs for a large proportion of the millions of potential customers out there. And lets face it, CCP will have to shard eventually unless EvE dies. You cannot continue to add players indefinitely if the playerbase is growing faster then technology can keep up with it. The Privateering Life
Infinity Ziona Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.29 08:02:00 - [5] Edited by: Infinity Ziona on 29/01/2007 08:00:34 Originally by: Chewan Mesa God people please stop posting the same ideas over and over again, its so tiering! Use the Search-Function and post in old ones if you have to. Although you got nothing new to add to it anyway. Do you realise how many times people have posted what you just posted since 2003? Do a forum search. Also Thread Necromancy will get you a warning I think. The Privateering Life
Infinity Ziona Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.29 13:32:00 - [6] Originally by: Escaped Convict OMG not agian! Eve cannot and will not be sharded in the way you wish "bad luck mate" First of all yure resons for sharding are flawed, lag is not a problem and even if it were it should not be an excuse to shard this game eve is based on ONE UNIVERSE everything you do effects the game no matter how small you are. if a new server where to be created then everyone would have atleast one ALT on it in the hope of getting a t2 BPO and land grab 0.0 so for a few weeks you would have a opertunity for new players to become PLAYERS but after that the game would solidify and within a year new players will agian be screaming SHARD! SHARD! SHARD! in the hope of them getting the t2 BPO or holding 0.0 space meanwhile tranquilty would still survive as players have invested lots of money AND time into and dont want to waste ther investment, but the same cant be siad for the new eve as with only a few months invested and another shard on the way players who didnt have the 2tbpo would simple move to the next one Basicaly if you shard this game it wont work! Imagen if Bob did capture all 0.0 LOL then all that would happen is allances would move server LIKE WOW, but as eve is now allances have to fight to SURVIVE and they have no chouse as they cant run which is why bob cant controle all eve. "A man with no hope is more dangorouse than an army with garented victory" EVE WILL NEVER BE SHARDED!!!!!!!!!!!!! O RLY? So you figure when its technically not possible to add any more players that CCP is gonna go 'oh well sorry guys and gals but EVE WILL NEVER BE SHARDED and we're no longer gonna take new subscriptions'. Or do you think they'll be able to keep adding players to the cluster forever? The Privateering Life
Infinity Ziona Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.29 13:50:00 - [7] Originally by: Escaped Convict of course i dont OWN CcP are you simple i never siad i did and eve will never be sharded if eve NEEDED a new server it would be done in a way that didnt effect tranqulity like the chinese server anyways from what i have seen latly ccp is gona be doing its own stuff "stuff other than EVE" so if eve ever got to the piont of needing a new server i would imagen they would call it a diffrent game change the storyline and have it in a complitly diffrent galaxy so it would be a CLONE rather than a shard ie same engine and machanics just diffrent content and role playing :) Can you put a Titan in my hanger plz? The Privateering Life

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