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Ren Tales
Null Horizon
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Posted - 2007.01.29 00:04:00 -
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Does anyone actually fly this?
It seems like a fun idea, but a waste of the crows true potential.
Yes no?
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Marquis Dean
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.29 00:33:00 -
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The Crow excels at orbiting at extremely high speed out to about 15-18km and I don't know if rockets could hit at that range even with the velocity bonus, but I don't think they can. Plus rocket dps is awful, may as well have the frig/drone popping power of lights. ------ ------
Originally by: Crag Heyder I'm not talking FPS here, it's SPF.
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Kehmor
Caldari PAK
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Posted - 2007.01.29 00:35:00 -
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I've popped dozens of inties in my rocket crow. never lost it in a 1v1 inty fight.
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Yoshimako
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Posted - 2007.01.29 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Marquis Dean The Crow excels at orbiting at extremely high speed out to about 15-18km and I don't know if rockets could hit at that range even with the velocity bonus, but I don't think they can. Plus rocket dps is awful, may as well have the frig/drone popping power of lights.
you sir are an idiot.
DPS of rockets is higher then that of standard light missiles.
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Marquis Dean
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.29 00:40:00 -
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Originally by: Yoshimako
Originally by: Marquis Dean The Crow excels at orbiting at extremely high speed out to about 15-18km and I don't know if rockets could hit at that range even with the velocity bonus, but I don't think they can. Plus rocket dps is awful, may as well have the frig/drone popping power of lights.
you sir are an idiot.
DPS of rockets is higher then that of standard light missiles.
Well **** you.
My light missile dps is much higher, possibly because I have standard missiles V and rockets I. ------ ------
Originally by: Crag Heyder I'm not talking FPS here, it's SPF.
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Kehmor
Caldari PAK
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Posted - 2007.01.29 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Marquis Dean
Originally by: Yoshimako
Originally by: Marquis Dean The Crow excels at orbiting at extremely high speed out to about 15-18km and I don't know if rockets could hit at that range even with the velocity bonus, but I don't think they can. Plus rocket dps is awful, may as well have the frig/drone popping power of lights.
you sir are an idiot.
DPS of rockets is higher then that of standard light missiles.
Well **** you.
My light missile dps is much higher, possibly because I have standard missiles V and rockets I.
you realise how stupid that just made you sound don't you.
Both ships have their merits, both ships have different uses. For dog fighting most people like the no brained light missile option. I, when I fly inties prefer rockets. Especially as with interceptors 5 i have about 15km range on my rockets so can still nail cruisers outside webrange.
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Marquis Dean
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.29 00:47:00 -
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Wow, I try to be light hearted.
I tested this on an alt and they're right, I didn't realise rocket launchers have such a high rate of fire. Apologies for that. But i'd still prefer lights cause I can start firing at 35-40km as I close. ------ ------
Originally by: Crag Heyder I'm not talking FPS here, it's SPF.
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Kehmor
Caldari PAK
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Posted - 2007.01.29 00:56:00 -
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Originally by: Marquis Dean Wow, I try to be light hearted.
I tested this on an alt and they're right, I didn't realise rocket launchers have such a high rate of fire. Apologies for that. But i'd still prefer lights cause I can start firing at 35-40km as I close.
with the speeds crows do these days thats like a 3 second difference.
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DunNa
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Posted - 2007.01.29 01:18:00 -
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Edited by: DunNa on 29/01/2007 01:19:58 Rocket crows = for people with ability to actively pilot there ships Missle crows = for people who turn on there launchers, hit orbit, do a single cycle of mwd and go afk :P
I would only suggest missle crows if you have low skills, or you can't/don't pilot your ship actively very well. While missle crows are inherently safer because you can attack from out of scram range but if your out of scram range well you are about the most useless inty in your group or your target will just warp and smack talk you in local for afew hours...
Rocket crows have every tool they need. Good dps Great range Launchers
While they may not be able to attack from 30k out, what the hell are you doing with a ceptor 30k off your target?
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Kehmor
Caldari PAK
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Posted - 2007.01.29 01:22:00 -
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Originally by: DunNa Rocket crows = for people with ability to actively pilot there ships Missle crows = for people who turn on there launchers, hit orbit, do a single cycle of mwd and go afk :P
I would only suggest missle crows if you have low skills, or you can't/don't pilot your ship actively very well.
actually missile crows take a huge amount of SP and some very skilled pilots use them. It's a matter of preference.
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2007.01.29 06:24:00 -
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rocket crow pwns
3x rocket II, 1x some small projectile turret
MWD, web, scram
SAR II, MAPC, 200mm rolled tungsten
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Famine Aligher'ri
V i L e
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Posted - 2007.01.29 06:57:00 -
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Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 29/01/2007 06:57:47
Originally by: Yoshimako
Originally by: Marquis Dean The Crow excels at orbiting at extremely high speed out to about 15-18km and I don't know if rockets could hit at that range even with the velocity bonus, but I don't think they can. Plus rocket dps is awful, may as well have the frig/drone popping power of lights.
you sir are an idiot.
DPS of rockets is higher then that of standard light missiles.
Well lets see here being you want to act all smart. :)
Give us a reason to get in your opponents web range and gun range for more DPS when you can kill your target from a distance safe.
Std > Rockets.
Only problems with going std which can be less DPS is not being able to web a target from jumping out a system/docking if they are not in jump/dock range. Being almost all PvP will be in docking or jumping range. Got to ask yourself "Why would a target engage my crow?".
Going STD is safe in almost all combat events. There is no reason to go rocket unless you're tackling with a webber.
V i L e - Recruiting Pirates |

Phelan Lore
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.01.29 07:41:00 -
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I imagine a plated rocket crow could be fun for solo vs other frigs, but in general it's a pretty good way to loose a crow.
Heck even a plated rocket kestrel would beat a plated rocket crow... it does more damage.
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Alpine 69
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.01.29 08:05:00 -
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Fitting defence on a inty is seriously ftl  eeeeeeek my sig got nerfed again :( |

Mutant CEO
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Posted - 2007.01.29 08:28:00 -
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Edited by: Mutant CEO on 29/01/2007 08:24:31
Originally by: DunNa Edited by: DunNa on 29/01/2007 01:19:58 While they may not be able to attack from 30k out, what the hell are you doing with a ceptor 30k off your target?
/me points to the Domination Warp Disruptor that has 30 KM range
Grrr damn alt post.
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Chi Prime
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.01.29 09:22:00 -
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With max skills (interceptor 5, projection 5, bombardment 5) you get 15km range with rockets on the crow (cf. Linkage).
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Great Artista
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.29 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: Chi Prime With max skills (interceptor 5, projection 5, bombardment 5) you get 15km range with rockets on the crow (cf. Linkage).
Slap on some missile rigs too to get like 18km range.  ___________________________________
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Chi Prime
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.01.29 09:33:00 -
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Yup, you can also get implants to increase it a bit further.
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Marquis Dean
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.29 10:30:00 -
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With implants and rigs it becomes a very expensive Crow to lose tho. I'm sure someone will quote this saying "OMGLOLZ you NOOBZZOR, if you aren't a reTARDZZOR then you'll never lose the CROWZZOR", but those people go to hell. You never know when you'll meet a huginn at point blank range who has another pilot is support. ------ ------
Originally by: Crag Heyder I'm not talking FPS here, it's SPF.
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Mutant Caldari
Caldari VSP Corp. R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.01.29 10:41:00 -
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Originally by: Marquis Dean With implants and rigs it becomes a very expensive Crow to lose tho. I'm sure someone will quote this saying "OMGLOLZ you NOOBZZOR, if you aren't a reTARDZZOR then you'll never lose the CROWZZOR", but those people go to hell. You never know when you'll meet a huginn at point blank range who has another pilot is support.
Talk about expensive an alliance mate of mine put 2 CCC rigs, a Cap Recharger II, Domination Warp Disruptor, Gistii A-Type MWD and all Locals in his lows  Yeah I am a pirate.What are you gonna do about it? |

Mortuus
Minmatar Just-fun
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Posted - 2007.01.29 10:50:00 -
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Yea, was gonna say, I use a light missle crow so I can perma scramble a nos BS outside nos range. Mmm....10km/s and no snakes.
ex-Occassus Republica <3 |

teh brandy
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Posted - 2007.01.29 11:03:00 -
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Bad idea, every time you fit ceptor for <10 km God pwns a cat.
You will be webbed, nossed, scrambled and droned every time you go for anything bigger than a frigate.
Crow isn't the fastest ceptor either so he won't dictate the range in duel with another ceptor pilot who has any clue what he is doing.
That is why rockets suck. --- 800k sp, day first - caracal, day third - ferox
gj ccp |

Chi Prime
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.01.29 12:43:00 -
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Yeh, I also feel uncomfortable going closer than 10km. I used to use a 14km web on it quite some time back (not sure how much they are worth), and had 14km range on the rockets at the time. Worked fairly well.
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Angelus X
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.29 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: DunNa Rocket crows = for people with ability to actively pilot there ships Missle crows = for people who turn on there launchers, hit orbit, do a single cycle of mwd and go afk :P
Both actually require a fair bit of piloting skill to kill stuff without dying yourself.
Standard Rocket Crow:
3x RL II, 1x 125mm T2 1x MWD, 1x 7.5k Scram, 1x Web 2x MAPC, 1x 400mm RT Plate
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3x RL II, 1x Small Nos 1x MWD, 1x 20k Scram, 1x Web 1x MAPC, 1x 200mm RT Plate, 1x SAR II
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[RKK] Foxor : targets are lewt, just not yet in can form
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d026
Herrscher der Zeit Jagdgeschwader The Pentagram
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Posted - 2007.01.29 13:42:00 -
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Edited by: d026 on 29/01/2007 13:40:19 thats what i use mainly for locking targets at gate and do some minor dmg:)
3 x Arbi Standart or 3 x rII 1 x 75mm II 1 x mwd 1 x tII scram (24 km) 1 x web 1 - 2 x interia/nano, 0 - 1x domi bcu (need cuz tight fit), 1x this passive sensorbooster thingy (tII)
i got the impression that i never inflict any damage if i fit rocktes due to all this little targets coming trough the gate beeing allready dead bevore im in rocket range.
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Kehmor
Caldari PAK
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Posted - 2007.01.29 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: teh brandy Bad idea, every time you fit ceptor for <10 km God pwns a cat.
You will be webbed, nossed, scrambled and droned every time you go for anything bigger than a frigate.
Crow isn't the fastest ceptor either so he won't dictate the range in duel with another ceptor pilot who has any clue what he is doing.
That is why rockets suck.
if your rockets don't fire more than 10km you must really suck
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Dark Flare
Caldari Corpus PCG
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Posted - 2007.01.29 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: d026 Edited by: d026 on 29/01/2007 13:40:19 thats what i use mainly for locking targets at gate and do some minor dmg:)
3 x Arbi Standart or 3 x rII 1 x 75mm II 1 x mwd 1 x tII scram (24 km) 1 x web 1 - 2 x interia/nano, 0 - 1x domi bcu (need cuz tight fit), 1x this passive sensorbooster thingy (tII)
i got the impression that i never inflict any damage if i fit rocktes due to all this little targets coming trough the gate beeing allready dead bevore im in rocket range.
Why bother fitting a T2 scram when you're fitting a web?
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Kehmor
Caldari PAK
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Posted - 2007.01.29 21:54:00 -
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sometimes there is no point webbing in which case being outside web range is vastly preferable
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kublai
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2007.01.30 00:24:00 -
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Couldnt kill anything but the ****tiest cruiser 1v1 using missiles, so I swapped to rockets (I orbit at 13km and they just hit), now I can solo thorax's etc given a little patience, you wont take a good cruiser using light missiles, the dps is abysmal.
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Marquis Dean
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.30 15:04:00 -
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To be fair, intys were never meant to have a really powerful punch. They aren't a.frigs. Being able to solo a cruiser is fairly impressive, not alot more you can expect it to do. ------ ------
Originally by: Crag Heyder I'm not talking FPS here, it's SPF.
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Araxmas
Black Lance Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.01.30 16:27:00 -
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My precision light missiles turn me on. --------
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