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Nyack GREY COUNCIL Breidablik	Posted - 2007.01.29 10:17:00 - [31] signed
Little Bo'peep	Posted - 2007.01.29 10:46:00 - [32] /signed playing from Korea
Yuni Milana Amarr	Posted - 2007.01.29 11:14:00 - [33] /signed
Kerfira	Posted - 2007.01.29 11:19:00 - [34] If you had cared to read the posts in the 'EVE is unplayable' thread, you'd have seen that the OP of that thread was in Saila. Saila as a general rule ALWAYS have 30-60 seconds lag and is ALWAYS unplayable during peak hours, mostly due to a poor placing of agents (3 best/good CN agents in it or neighboring systems), and probable more due to an incredible poor layout of the stargates in that part of the EVE universe making it a heavy transit system (you have to go through it to get to Motsu/Aramachi, and also to Laah which is a newbie systems with the only skill book seller in the vicinity). This has been the case for months now, but nothing has been done about it. The OP of the other thread was fully justified to complain about it, though he should probably not have said 'EVE is unplayable', but 'Saila is unplayable'. General advice: Stop whining!
Amon 'Chakai FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.29 11:45:00 - [35] Originally by: Warrio In light of recent post titles such as "The server is unplayable", "Make 2 servers" and "Lag lag lag cry cry rabble rabble rabble" I have decided to make a post about just how much I'm not suffering from lag. I live in Australia so I don't exacaly have access to the most amazing internet connection speeds in the world. I sometimes run missions in empire, always in Amarr space. I sometimes head into 0.0 with my corps/alliances and join in camps/fleet battles. Occaisionally I lag a bit but it's never more than a few seconds and very little will really happen in those few seconds that wouldn't have happened anyway so it doesn't worry me. I have lost a few ships to 'lag related' incidents all of which I have recieved back through petitions (one still pending). All in all I don't feel that lag makes Eve "Unplayable" or even "Frustrating". Latency is a natural part of the internet's structure circa 2007 and it's something that we as gamers have always been able to deal with and work through. Thanks CCP!! Much e-luv. btw: GTFO of Jita/Motsu/Caldari space. Oh well, I'm not suffering from lag either much.. zero alone, when we fly with corp game already does jump ques(or 5-10s delayes) because of corp only fleets. Small 40-50 people fights go just fine... mainly in the 0,0 where we live. Fleet and PoS warfare with 250-500 people in local/jumping in total.. huoh is only my reply as every alliance takes into account these days lag and how to use it weapon and how to counter lag as a weapon used by hostiles... If we have to plan for lag strategies.. There's something wrong no matter how well it works in other areas of game. Anyways nice that you took time to point out the otherside of the coin. ??====??====??====??====??====??====??====??====??==?? If eve even makes close up to 60-70k+ dollars per day as budget.. they could throw about 140k-300k easily to hardware upgrade once per year.
Imperil Northern Intelligence SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.29 12:12:00 - [36] I think you should just shut up! Just because you do not lag does not mean that the server is OK. Oh, you happen to be in a fleet battle every once in a while, yea, that really makes you confident in telling - "THERE ARE NO LAG IN COMBAT". Yea, I guess you have never been in a REAL fleet. The game is unplayable when large numbers are trying to fight it out. It is unplayable for sure! Support POS Overhaul - Read it NOW!
Depp Knight Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.29 12:49:00 - [37] Originally by: Imperil I think you should just shut up! Just because you do not lag does not mean that the server is OK. Oh, you happen to be in a fleet battle every once in a while, yea, that really makes you confident in telling - "THERE ARE NO LAG IN COMBAT". Yea, I guess you have never been in a REAL fleet. The game is unplayable when large numbers are trying to fight it out. It is unplayable for sure! Before BM nerf I would agree with you, however just how you started your thread ill like to say the same. I think you should just shut up! Just because you lag does not mean the server is bad. Oh, you happened to be a fleet battle every once in a while, yea, that really makes you confident in telling "the game is unplayable in large numbers' So my guess you play with sound on, listen to the radio over the net. ____________________ Though there is a difference between 60 on 60 and 150 on 150. Name one game that plays 150 on 150 and has little to no lag. So again, shut up, this is a thread for those that donÆt find the lag unplayable your probably one of the players out there who actually thinks the reason why the lag I play with is totally playable is because you think we ie BoB hax.
Godar Marak Amarr Return Of Red Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.29 12:53:00 - [38] Originally by: Warrio btw: GTFO of Jita/Motsu/Caldari space. And where is mission runners supposed to go to? Oh I forgot, running missions isnt a part of the 'real' EVE. I have 2 characters, one for pvp in lowsec/0.0 and one for running misisons. Lately, theres no point in doing missions as its too laggy with the 'outrageous' amount of 100 players in one system. -------------------- '\0/\0/\0/\0/\0/' Cant we all just get along?
Imperil Northern Intelligence SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.29 13:24:00 - [39] Originally by: Depp Knight Originally by: Imperil I think you should just shut up! Just because you do not lag does not mean that the server is OK. Oh, you happen to be in a fleet battle every once in a while, yea, that really makes you confident in telling - "THERE ARE NO LAG IN COMBAT". Yea, I guess you have never been in a REAL fleet. The game is unplayable when large numbers are trying to fight it out. It is unplayable for sure! Before BM nerf I would agree with you, however just how you started your thread ill like to say the same. I think you should just shut up! Just because you lag does not mean the server is bad. Oh, you happened to be a fleet battle every once in a while, yea, that really makes you confident in telling "the game is unplayable in large numbers' So my guess you play with sound on, listen to the radio over the net. ____________________ Though there is a difference between 60 on 60 and 150 on 150. Name one game that plays 150 on 150 and has little to no lag. So again, shut up, this is a thread for those that donÆt find the lag unplayable your probably one of the players out there who actually thinks the reason why the lag I play with is totally playable is because you think we ie BoB hax. Bravo, truly, bravo. Your just an arrogant piece of nothingness that believe BoB is the center of the world. Now please, go away, this is not a BoB thread.. And for the rest of your post, you just suck. You responded with something that does not really make sense. You are 'quoting' me and trying to apply the text against me, you fail. This games selling point IS large fleet battles and large player involvement, when this is NOT possible something is wrong dont you think? How many people do I have to bring to make a POS battle NOT laggy? 20 players each? Support POS Overhaul - Read it NOW!
Roshan longshot Gallente Ordos Humanitas	Posted - 2007.01.29 13:35:00 - [40] Originally by: Warrio In light of recent post titles such as "The server is unplayable", "Make 2 servers" and "Lag lag lag cry cry rabble rabble rabble" I have decided to make a post about just how much I'm not suffering from lag. I live in Australia so I don't exacaly have access to the most amazing internet connection speeds in the world. I sometimes run missions in empire, always in Amarr space. I sometimes head into 0.0 with my corps/alliances and join in camps/fleet battles. Occaisionally I lag a bit but it's never more than a few seconds and very little will really happen in those few seconds that wouldn't have happened anyway so it doesn't worry me. I have lost a few ships to 'lag related' incidents all of which I have recieved back through petitions (one still pending). All in all I don't feel that lag makes Eve "Unplayable" or even "Frustrating". Latency is a natural part of the internet's structure circa 2007 and it's something that we as gamers have always been able to deal with and work through. Thanks CCP!! Much e-luv. btw: GTFO of Jita/Motsu/Caldari space. Funny last time I suffered from major lag was 1.5 years ago, when I was doing missions..... Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter *pirate* or mixture of them all. [i]As read from the original box.
Kerfira	Posted - 2007.01.29 14:18:00 - [41] Originally by: Warrio btw: GTFO of Jita/Motsu/Caldari space. Hmm, actually, NO! CCP is selling this game to a lot of different people, playing the game in a lot of different ways. PvP'ers, Traders, Explorers, Mission Runners etc. Mission running is exactly as legitimate an activity for a player to involve himself in as any other type of play, and the Motsu area has the best agents for those using the Caldari Navy ones. It is NOT the players who have to solve the lag problem by not using part of the game. It's CCP's responsibility that the players can actually play the game they're paying for. This means that it is also quite reasonable for players to make CCP aware of it when they encounter issues that make the game unplayable for them. General advice: Stop whining!
Lucio Gallente UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.29 14:32:00 - [42] Me, I'm currently suffering from horrendous lag but I'm gonna find out in about a week whether it's client side or server side when my shiny new PC turns up, complete with it's GeForce 8800GTX (yes I do have more money than sense!) ************************************************ Wohoo! No more negative sec status. It's a shame it took me TWO YEARS of Carebearing to get rid of a lousy -1.2
Allen Deckard Gallente Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.01.29 14:32:00 - [43] hmm exactly what time is it your playing lag free? You say your in australia. Well I live in us if I play during evening lag is bad. If I play during middle of the night (for me) which is australia main time frame well guess what no lag. might have something to do with hardly anybody in the game during that time. Ya think? The lag in eve is bad, unplayable? well about a year ago it was. It's better now. But it's not to par with other games. It's not the computer or the connection. I get the same lag if I am playing with 2 accounts at the same time as I get if I am playing with one. So my computer? no I dont think so I think it's ccp's side myself. Lastly I dont live in empire but for the GTFO of jita ect ect comment. How bout ccp make some changes on THEIR side as DEVELOPERS to be an incentive to GTFO of jita. Kentucky where the goats roam and the rednecks run free
Emma Green Caldari Enterprise Estonia Cult of War	Posted - 2007.01.29 14:34:00 - [44] if there are more than 30000 players the game starts to lag for me ... ---------------------------------------------- EVE-Files Don't run my drones will catch u anyway ..
Araxmas Black Lance Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.01.29 14:40:00 - [45] AFAIK people who complain about ccp for having a crap game are just using the game as a scapegoat for their half-assed connection/computer. I fly through jita tons of times even on sunday nights and all i get is about 5 seconds autopilot lag. Apart from that its fine, and my computer isnt anything special. --------
Taedrin Gallente The Last Ravens	Posted - 2007.01.29 14:46:00 - [46] Originally by: Gadfly Hawke No -- anything less than perfection is not a reasonable objective. Just because your play isn't totally wrecked by lag does not mean that your play can't be improved by less lag. Come on -- let's keep the pressure on! CCP should strive to achieve what is achievable. I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not, as the internet is a poor medium for conveying such subtleties. However, in case you are not being sarcastic, I should let you know that perfection is impossible for any MMO with a significant population. Oh yes, and /signed. Next to lag free play for me too.
Emma Green Caldari Enterprise Estonia Cult of War	Posted - 2007.01.29 14:48:00 - [47] Edited by: Emma Green on 29/01/2007 14:45:00 i have 15mb/5mb connection and "almost" the best computer there can be atm ... and i run the game perfectly when thers about 20000 - 30000 peeps, but if it exeeds that limit my game starts lagging very baddly. im not complaining but to say that theres nothing to improve, is just wrong... ---------------------------------------------- EVE-Files Don't run my drones will catch u anyway ..
Kerfira	Posted - 2007.01.29 15:11:00 - [48] Originally by: Araxmas I fly through jita tons of times even on sunday nights and all i get is about 5 seconds autopilot lag. Apart from that its fine, and my computer isnt anything special. Jita is actually not too bad these days, even at peak time. About the only system I personally know of that have endemic lag is Saila, which is VERY bad. It is consistently having 30-60s lag during peak hours, and this is not just on sundays. General advice: Stop whining!
Athren Soulsteal Gallente Intergalaxy Salvage And Repair	Posted - 2007.01.29 15:20:00 - [49] Intresting how most of the posters say there is *not much* lag. Well I am on cable paying extra for the game players 6gbit up/down have a 3.6pross and a 2gif Gforce and have no lag in Planetside, WOW, RO, or any other game (I can run Doom at 12x12 no flicker) but as seems to be the norm latly I jumped into the 4th area of a DS last night and lagged, lagged lagged then woke up in my pod warping to the beginning gate. The lag in not from my connection or my system but from EVE loading all the NPCs especally when you jump into a pack that instantly target you. I have jumped into DS areas where there are no NPCs close and no lag. But Jumping into a DS where they target you instantly always causes lag. The question is, do you consider loosing ships to lag unplayable. And no I don't petition these, I build ships 20 at a time so loosing 1 a night is not a prob for me but would be devestating to a new player. I agree with the poster that posts like these do not help because there is a real problem that CCP does need to fix. Actually, since your point was that it does not affect you much then it must be ok. After all why should they fix anything that effects the comunity since a few individules are ok with it. Quote: Think about the people that did fight you fairly. Think.... that were honorable and helped you out in times of need. Those are the real heroes of EVE. I wish I could fit all the Quote
Dave White Beagle Corp	Posted - 2007.01.29 15:29:00 - [50] tbh I believe over half of the whine rabble rabble lag threads are because people have **ty computers, and not server related. I recently upgraded to a Dual Core, and the difference is huge and I barely have any lag at all. EvE +NLINE - T+TALHELLDEATH SUPPORTER** My post bla bla my view bla no way corp or alliance bla reflection bla bla.
Roemy Schneider BINFORD	Posted - 2007.01.29 15:35:00 - [51] press ctrl+alt+shift+m and check the network tab.. behold how little traffic is actually shoved around
Exiled One Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.01.29 15:46:00 - [52] You're a carebear that runs missions in amarr space, in a system that might be on a node with 1% load. YAY NO ******* LAG. The moment you jump into a system thats located on the same node as jita you will understand and that system can be .0, in lowsec or 40j out of jita. IBTL. It's great being Amarr, aint it?
Imperil Northern Intelligence SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.29 16:12:00 - [53] Anyways, the biggest problem I feel is at the moment is how the client will freeze when querying the database for information. In other games, even with lag, your client does not freeze. The client continues to render while waiting for the information, in EVE unfortunely it is not like that, and as such is making "extra" and unecassary lag that in other games has been avoided.. Support POS Overhaul - Read it NOW!
Mikel Crenshaw Minmatar Minmatar Ship Construction Services	Posted - 2007.01.29 18:00:00 - [54] I have to say that I've had very little problems with lag at all since I've started playing. I've flown through Jita at peak hours and what little slow down there was did not make the game unplayable in the least. All I can say is that CCP have been doing a great job of not letting the lag get out of hand. Just imagine how bad it would be if they had never started streamlining the code and improving the harware. --------------------- "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
Roy Batty68 Caldari Immortal Dead	Posted - 2007.01.29 18:58:00 - [55] Originally by: Araxmas AFAIK people who complain about ccp for having a crap game are just using the game as a scapegoat for their half-assed connection/computer. I fly through jita tons of times even on sunday nights and all i get is about 5 seconds autopilot lag. Apart from that its fine, and my computer isnt anything special. Server lag. It's possible. And it's got f-all to do with client computers, isps, dial-up or broadband. ------------------- Ignorance
hotgirl933	Posted - 2007.01.29 20:37:00 - [56] its only because of CCPs streamlining and improvements that the lag isnt as bad as it has been but .... with each rushed patch it just resets the clock
James Swindle	Posted - 2007.01.29 22:18:00 - [57] Totally agree i suffer pretty much no lag.

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