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Sergio Ling Standard Operations Building Services	Posted - 2007.01.30 17:47:00 - [61] Originally by: Sinnbad Mayhem Some Drivel And who are you to make such an assessment? _ Your sig is pwn - Eris
Tomsudy Minmatar BloodThirsters Corp	Posted - 2007.01.30 17:54:00 - [62] Originally by: Sinnbad Mayhem Disclaimer: I know that I am not as experienced as alot of people in EVE but I have played enough to form an opinion. Questions 1. Alliances in 0.0 who dislike PVP or hide in stations? Why are you in 0.0 ? 2. Alliances who NAP corps who shoot your members to save you from evil BOB or the local pirates. How do you look at yourself in the mirror? Seriously, if somebody shot my member I would shoot them back and have too. How alliances can not defend their members is beyond me. Seriously, WTF? 3. Alliances who are inactive and play a couple hours a day and live in 0.0. Good luck with that. Please never recruit me. 4. Alliances who only recruit a certain timezone? Do you really think this is such a smart policy? Talk about short sighted. Seriously, how long do you plan to hold space being such wusses? I direct this to all the whiner alliances? Bob is not the real threat in EVE. The real threat is your fear of PVP and desire to fill your wallets instead of fighting for survival. Probably why so many alliances fail in 0.0. Nuff said. I am not trying to insult anyone here. But honestly, I am scratching my head at all these pseudo PVP alliances who live in 0.0. Maybe I have already answered my own post. Maybe weak alliances are just alt alliances setup by more powerful alliances to pad their stats? Seriously, ppl cant be so silly to think that without cap ships they can defend their POSes or Stations can they? Not sure how long this thread will survive. Maybe ppl will just discard this thread as flame bait. But seriously, alliances like FLA that run around napping guys who were pod killing their members make me wonder. You obviously don't understand this game. I would advise you to stfu and come back when you have more knowledege because this post is a piece of **** ________________________________________ THTA
Agustus Caesar Minmatar Convergent Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.30 18:46:00 - [63] Edited by: Agustus Caesar on 30/01/2007 18:50:59 Originally by: Sinnbad Mayhem FLA IS WEAK SAUCE. Now what you gonna do? Hmmm. Maybe ask your little gate camp in 8S to come get me? So your expecting a whole alliance (or even a few members of one) to bother tracking you down and podding you over some forum smack? Honestly if you were half the bad ass you claim you are you would have already flown up there yourself and started putting some fight behind your trash talk instead of hurling insults from the comfort of the station. If your going to accuse an alliance of being weak you should at least A. At least have a general idea of how many systems they lay claim to and B. Have a killmail or two so you can at least pretend to be better than them I just can't seem to wrap my mind around why you think they should waste their time tracking down some random smacktard just cause he shot off his mouth on the forums like he had any idea what he was talking about. The simple fact that NOBODY, not even FLA's enemies, has come out in support of your position, should tell you that you got no idea what's going on; but I guess common sense is beyond people like you. -Caesar Edit: used wrong quote ----------------------------- Unless otherwise stated my opinions don't represent that of my corporation and/or alliance, but unless your retarded, that should go without saying
Hindgrinder Jr Minmatar Eve Game Card Co	Posted - 2007.01.30 18:53:00 - [64] Originally by: dastommy79 I cant tell you how much i enjoy reading such crap topics on the eve-o-forums. If u got something to say about FLA, come up to dek and i can show ya what we are about. WTB retarded Forum Topic blocker.... To enable the Retarded Forum Topic Blocker... Hold down ALT and Press F4 key. To the Op... /me points @ u and laughs. CH
Traidor Disloyal Minmatar Titurius Sabinus	Posted - 2007.01.30 18:57:00 - [65] Originally by: Sinnbad Mayhem Seriously, if somebody shot my member I would shoot them back and have too. If someone shot my member I would: 1. Fall on the ground, roll around, cry like a little girl 2. Have someone take me to the hospital 3. Get out of hospital 4. Go look for the SOB who shot my member, cut his off, stick it up his rear, and sew up up. ------------------------------------- When the casual players go, the income will drop, and Eve will die. Simple as that. You childish gankers can't see past the end of your own noses
Dirtball Kemono.	Posted - 2007.01.30 19:02:00 - [66] Originally by: Sinnbad Mayhem Disclaimer: I know that I am not as experienced as alot of people in EVE but I have played enough to form an opinion. Questions 1. Alliances in 0.0 who dislike PVP or hide in stations? Why are you in 0.0 ? 2. Alliances who NAP corps who shoot your members to save you from evil BOB or the local pirates. How do you look at yourself in the mirror? Seriously, if somebody shot my member I would shoot them back and have too. How alliances can not defend their members is beyond me. Seriously, WTF? 3. Alliances who are inactive and play a couple hours a day and live in 0.0. Good luck with that. Please never recruit me. 4. Alliances who only recruit a certain timezone? Do you really think this is such a smart policy? Talk about short sighted. Seriously, how long do you plan to hold space being such wusses? I direct this to all the whiner alliances? Bob is not the real threat in EVE. The real threat is your fear of PVP and desire to fill your wallets instead of fighting for survival. Probably why so many alliances fail in 0.0. Nuff said. I am not trying to insult anyone here. But honestly, I am scratching my head at all these pseudo PVP alliances who live in 0.0. Maybe I have already answered my own post. Maybe weak alliances are just alt alliances setup by more powerful alliances to pad their stats? Seriously, ppl cant be so silly to think that without cap ships they can defend their POSes or Stations can they? Not sure how long this thread will survive. Maybe ppl will just discard this thread as flame bait. But seriously, alliances like FLA that run around napping guys who were pod killing their members make me wonder. most of the people I know that would agree with this have already left the game after realizing this is how it works.
Doddy Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.01.30 19:24:00 - [67] Originally by: Traidor Disloyal Originally by: Sinnbad Mayhem Seriously, if somebody shot my member I would shoot them back and have too. If someone shot my member I would: 1. Fall on the ground, roll around, cry like a little girl 2. Have someone take me to the hospital 3. Get out of hospital 4. Go look for the SOB who shot my member, cut his off, stick it up his rear, and sew up up.
Cmdr Sy Repo Industries	Posted - 2007.01.30 19:26:00 - [68] Originally by: Sinnbad Mayhem I am scratching my head at all these pseudo PVP alliances who live in 0.0. Because each and every one of those alliances is still better than the majority of EVE who seldom venture out of Empire. Perhaps you have isolated yourself from the real carebears for so long that you are comparing one end of the elite spectrum to another end, and so you wonder how the weaker side manages to cling on to their territories, or move around but persist. Well there's your answer, because you are casting your gaze no wider than the hard core of the community who in spite of setbacks are in 0.0 in the first place, overlooking the fact that most EVE players are even more than that. 0.0 space will continue to be full of weak alliances because the powerful ones do not have enough members to control it all, and the Empire space talent pool just about keeps pace with the manpower requirements to keep the status quo while seldom giving rise to any new powers. Logoffs
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.30 20:16:00 - [69] Some people, like, totally need some perspective. Tri are fun. We lubs Tri. This is a game, this "EVE", and its a PvP game. Tri give us good PvP. Without them, life would be boring. BoB are also fun. BoB brings PvP also. PvP, as has already been mentioned, is fun. Now the more complicated bit. We and Tri are old enemies. We both live in the north, and have been sparring partners for yonks. BoB (potentially) could end both of our fun in the north. So, we stop shooting each other for a while to focus on BoB, and when they've cleared off again, we can get back to the shooty shooty. We happily pew'd with them before, and we'll happily pew with them again after. What else? FLA don't hide in stations. Ask Tri, or BE, or even BoB. Whatever can be said about us, we always come out and charge into a fight. Are we Uber PvPers? No. Do we always win? Course not. Do we often have to rely on our numbers, compared to other's brute skill? Yup. But do we hide from the fights? Not a chance. And whats this about recruiting in only one timezone? I don't get that. In our corp, I am UK and have UK friends, a large chunk are other EU, a vast swathe are US, and then there a few straggling Aussies. Last I checked, the whole alliance was like that, and I've never heard of any sort of timezone restrictions on recruiting. Can't really say about 3, since I don't exactly monitor the daily playing times of FLA members. Alliance chat always seems packed enough though, and fleets always fill up pretty quick. Not sure what else you can ask from your members. -----------------------------------------------
Roh Gasgas Gallente Roll over and beep	Posted - 2007.01.30 20:48:00 - [70] OP is entirely right. However, FLA is by a long shot not the only weaksauce alliance in this game. Other entities such as Firmus Ixion (are slaves of BoB the best thing you can be?), Myriad Alliance (an alliance of more than 500 members who hide in a single station in a resource-less empire system all day, daring only to go out when there are no Privateers within 5 jumps. Which is, as the system is in Jita's close vicinity, never.) and UCC (i have no idea how an alliance with your member count and cowardish instincts got control over 0.0 space, good thing you no longer own it). And the two last mentioned alliances are seriously planning to build their own station within two months in 0.0! Allow me to laugh, please.
sakana Purgatorial Janitors Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.30 20:49:00 - [71] Originally by: Patch86 Are we Uber PvPers? No. speak for yourself, in a few days i'll have one million skill points! ------------
Zephirz Blood Inquisition Sani Khal'Vecna	Posted - 2007.01.30 21:04:00 - [72] The answers to your main questions are so painfully obvious... 1. People that dont like pvp go to 0.0 for profit, better ore, higher profit margin on mods. 2. Napping a corp/alliance is a great way to defend your corpies. Youll create a buffer zone, backup troops and possible very good friends. 3. Why wouldnt they live in 0.0...? seriously. If i had to choose between playing casual in empire or playing casual in 0.0... 0.0 is the way to go... 4. Their choice. You only need members acros all timezones if you have a large and widespread POS network to maintain and defend. Seriously how do you think an 0.0 alliance becomes an 0.0 alliance... Do you think ASCN got 3000 members before moving into 0.0? Do you think you need 3000 members to be succesfull in 0.0? do you think 0.0 is only and all about pvp? Seriously... buy a clue zephirz
Zephirz Blood Inquisition Sani Khal'Vecna	Posted - 2007.01.30 21:05:00 - [73] ps. i want my 2 minutes back :/ zephirz
Nikerym Selugion Gallente AirHawk Alliance Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.30 21:21:00 - [74] Originally by: Patch86 and then there a few straggling Aussies. Straggling? STRAGGLING? i think not.... there may be only a few of us be were in the lead baby! eat our outback dust!
Aero089 Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.30 21:30:00 - [75] Look, Sinnbad, Sugarplum. If you seriously think that the alliances holding space right now are all wusses, then you should try capturing space from them so they have to show their teeth. Honest is honest, FIX isn't always in the mood to fight, and against larger roaming gangs we sometimes lack enough willpower to be bothered with them. But the slightest sign of a capital ship or POS in our space that's not on our side, and we're all over it. I respect all other alliances in 0.0, because they have the logistics, guts, manpower and resources to be and stay in 0.0. Honestly, if you or your corporation thinks they are 'better' than the current alliances, I challenge you to take a station. Go for it, prove your point.
Marcus Quo Axe Gang	Posted - 2007.01.30 22:16:00 - [76] Originally by: Sinnbad Mayhem Disclaimer: I know that I am not as experienced as alot of people in EVE but I have played enough to form an opinion. Questions 1. Alliances in 0.0 who dislike PVP or hide in stations? Why are you in 0.0 ? 2. Alliances who NAP corps who shoot your members to save you from evil BOB or the local pirates. How do you look at yourself in the mirror? Seriously, if somebody shot my member I would shoot them back and have too. How alliances can not defend their members is beyond me. Seriously, WTF? 3. Alliances who are inactive and play a couple hours a day and live in 0.0. Good luck with that. Please never recruit me. 4. Alliances who only recruit a certain timezone? Do you really think this is such a smart policy? Talk about short sighted. Seriously, how long do you plan to hold space being such wusses? I direct this to all the whiner alliances? Bob is not the real threat in EVE. The real threat is your fear of PVP and desire to fill your wallets instead of fighting for survival. Probably why so many alliances fail in 0.0. Nuff said. I am not trying to insult anyone here. But honestly, I am scratching my head at all these pseudo PVP alliances who live in 0.0. Maybe I have already answered my own post. Maybe weak alliances are just alt alliances setup by more powerful alliances to pad their stats? Seriously, ppl cant be so silly to think that without cap ships they can defend their POSes or Stations can they? Not sure how long this thread will survive. Maybe ppl will just discard this thread as flame bait. But seriously, alliances like FLA that run around napping guys who were pod killing their members make me wonder. I should probably point out a few things here. 1. Though Sinnbad was a member of the Axe Gang when he posted this, he's been kicked due to starting forum drama, among other things. The opinions expressed by him are by NO MEANS thoes of the corp. 2. I'd agree that there's alliances in 00 that can't really hold space, but they tend to get kicked out on a regular basis. Alliances that have been around as long as FLA certainly don't deserve the title of weak sauce. As for alliances that do, go take a look at the history of Geminate. Most of the people who got kicked out of there had it happen for a reason. 3. I really wanna see Triumverate and Outbreak go 1 on 1 (not that they will, but it would be cool), so I fully support them helping out the north
lRoGuEl Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.01.30 22:20:00 - [77] Edited by: lRoGuEl on 30/01/2007 22:16:58 Originally by: Sinnbad Mayhem Questions 2. Alliances who NAP corps who shoot your members to save you from evil BOB or the local pirates. How do you look at yourself in the mirror? Seriously, if somebody shot my member I would shoot them back and have too. That is how politics works. Since i took history today, i am in a history mood so i will present some historical resemblances. In particular we were discussing WWII... In WWII, China was in a civil war of the nationalists against the communists. This had been an ongoing war for sometime. However, upon Japanese invasion, the two leaders of the political parties agreed to stop fighting one another in order to fight back the Japanese out of China. Had they continued to fight one another, not only would they have nothing left to fight over, but they themselves would most likely have been forced to surrender to the Japanese. Another example is that of the USSR. Stalin had been fought all the way back to Moscow by Germany. Although Stalin had many troops, he did not have the equipment to fight back the Germans. Despite the USSR being a communist country, which the US did not support at all, the US sent them supplies. However, having the USSR as an ally against Germany was a huge advantage. So, despite their differences, the US sent the USSR support to fight back Germany.
Freyya Axe Gang	Posted - 2007.01.30 22:26:00 - [78] Originally by: Zimi Vlasic Edited by: Zimi Vlasic on 30/01/2007 17:23:51 jippedyjack...AXE Gang,.... some obscure corp you hurt my feelings with that one no need to get personal.... what are we going to do tonight Marcus? the same thing we do every night Freyya, tonight.....we're going to take over the universe!! ZOINKS ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------to be or not to be is not important in the world of EVE... To be the most you can become is...
Xenny Lee Minmatar The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.30 22:28:00 - [79] Lets see... 1) Are you angry because your roaming gang jumped into a station system and ya saw 2 hulks and 3 ravens on scan dock up? Call em carebears, but living off pvp loot is really hard... 3-1, 6-1 ratios of kills dont even cut it less your lucky. Other then that the only thing that brings in money easily is T2 production... Anyone else has to carebear every now and again. 2) For one Ive been good friends with people Ive shot at or been shot at before... This is a game. For 2, if your choice was to A) Nap up someone or B) Move all your towers, assets and **** back to more secure space... Dreads can be fairly persuasive. Although I do agree that some NAP webs are getting 2 big to be healthy... 3) Very few of those, or if so they arent large enough to even matter. 4) Few alliances recruit strictly in a timezone, some corps do though and their are advantages logistically to doing so... If its not in your timezone why do you care if you cant join. Youd log on and their ops would be over, and log off and ops would be starting. Less you just want some 0.0 space to rat and mine on your own... Which is fairly hypoc... As for the rest... QQ more plz
Herculite Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.30 22:33:00 - [80] Originally by: Roh Gasgas OP is entirely right. However, FLA is by a long shot not the only weaksauce alliance in this game. Other entities such as Firmus Ixion (are slaves of BoB the best thing you can be?), Myriad Alliance (an alliance of more than 500 members who hide in a single station in a resource-less empire system all day, daring only to go out when there are no Privateers within 5 jumps. Which is, as the system is in Jita's close vicinity, never.) and UCC (i have no idea how an alliance with your member count and cowardish instincts got control over 0.0 space, good thing you no longer own it). And the two last mentioned alliances are seriously planning to build their own station within two months in 0.0! Allow me to laugh, please. I feel the same way, but about people who don't post with their main.
Roh Gasgas Gallente Roll over and beep	Posted - 2007.01.30 23:00:00 - [81] Originally by: Herculite I feel the same way, but about people who don't post with their main. There may be several reasons why i don't post with my main; don't judge me on that. Judge the content of my posts. That seems to be quite hard to do for a lot of posters on the forums, though.
Sinnbad Mayhem Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.01.31 05:45:00 - [82] Originally by: Marcus Quo Originally by: Sinnbad Mayhem Disclaimer: I know that I am not as experienced as alot of people in EVE but I have played enough to form an opinion. Questions 1. Alliances in 0.0 who dislike PVP or hide in stations? Why are you in 0.0 ? 2. Alliances who NAP corps who shoot your members to save you from evil BOB or the local pirates. How do you look at yourself in the mirror? Seriously, if somebody shot my member I would shoot them back and have too. How alliances can not defend their members is beyond me. Seriously, WTF? 3. Alliances who are inactive and play a couple hours a day and live in 0.0. Good luck with that. Please never recruit me. 4. Alliances who only recruit a certain timezone? Do you really think this is such a smart policy? Talk about short sighted. Seriously, how long do you plan to hold space being such wusses? I direct this to all the whiner alliances? Bob is not the real threat in EVE. The real threat is your fear of PVP and desire to fill your wallets instead of fighting for survival. Probably why so many alliances fail in 0.0. Nuff said. I am not trying to insult anyone here. But honestly, I am scratching my head at all these pseudo PVP alliances who live in 0.0. Maybe I have already answered my own post. Maybe weak alliances are just alt alliances setup by more powerful alliances to pad their stats? Seriously, ppl cant be so silly to think that without cap ships they can defend their POSes or Stations can they? Not sure how long this thread will survive. Maybe ppl will just discard this thread as flame bait. But seriously, alliances like FLA that run around napping guys who were pod killing their members make me wonder. I should probably point out a few things here. 1. Though Sinnbad was a member of the Axe Gang when he posted this, he's been kicked due to starting forum drama, among other things. The opinions expressed by him are by NO MEANS thoes of the corp. 2. I'd agree that there's alliances in 00 that can't really hold space, but they tend to get kicked out on a regular basis. Alliances that have been around as long as FLA certainly don't deserve the title of weak sauce. As for alliances that do, go take a look at the history of Geminate. Most of the people who got kicked out of there had it happen for a reason. 3. I really wanna see Triumverate and Outbreak go 1 on 1 (not that they will, but it would be cool), so I fully support them helping out the north Kicking me for a form post is rather pathetic but hey your the boss. Have fun with your new alliance.
Mav McKinnly Gallente Axe Gang	Posted - 2007.01.31 06:10:00 - [83] Technically, we're kicking you for being a douche bag.
Asylum Seaker Minmatar RONA Corporation RONA Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.31 06:48:00 - [84] Originally by: Sinnbad Mayhem Seriously, if somebody shot my member... Seriously, WTF? ...Seriously, how long do you plan to... Seriously, ppl cant be so silly... But seriously, alliances like FLA... Is this guy SERIOUS???! Memento Mori.
Swanny231 FISKL GUARDS Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.31 07:08:00 - [85] We have a winner !!!!! You have just completed retarded forum poster LvL 5 ------------------------------
Sinnbad Mayhem Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.01.31 07:42:00 - [86] Originally by: Swanny231 We have a winner !!!!! You have just completed retarded forum poster LvL 5 Well, I asked some questions. Guess perhaps I hit a nerve with these questions. I would like to apologize to FLA for calling them Weak Sauce. Didnt quite think the term Weak Sauce would result in my career being ended in EVE. Considering how many pods I have killed. Didnt think asking questions in an alliance would cause such uproar. I have learned my lesson. Sorry. You may lock this thread. I have learned what I needed the hard way. boy, wonder what corp would take me now? to the biomass chamber!
Alski Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.31 09:08:00 - [87] Originally by: Sinnbad Mayhem Originally by: Swanny231 We have a winner !!!!! You have just completed retarded forum poster LvL 5 Well, I asked some questions. Guess perhaps I hit a nerve with these questions. I would like to apologize to FLA for calling them Weak Sauce. Didnt quite think the term Weak Sauce would result in my career being ended in EVE. Considering how many pods I have killed. Didnt think asking questions in an alliance would cause such uproar. I have learned my lesson. Sorry. You may lock this thread. I have learned what I needed the hard way. boy, wonder what corp would take me now? to the biomass chamber! No no, the questions were fine, it was pureley that “...like FLA” comment that landed you in all this. Ya have to understand that when you post on this section of the forum, you are doing two things, 1. your representing both your corp and (if applicable) your alliance, and 2. any comments you make regarding other corps or alliances will be responded to. Weather you intended it or not those two little words were taken as a public attack on FLA, if someone else came here and said the same about your corp, would you not defend there honour?, in fact I myself did have a little dig at Axe Gang in one of my replies just to see if you would take the bait and show a little hypocrisy, kudos for not failing for it. Another little thing you got wrong was posting your assumptions which were based on incorrect info, and you know what they say about assumptions... To be fair though – despite those mistakes I don’t see why you should have been kicked from your corp for a mere forum post, true you neglected to remember that anything you say here Can (but not necessarily Should) be taken as voicing the views of your corp or alliance, and that can always do damage particularly if its out of step with what your leaders believe... Still, does seem a little extreme to me, perhaps it just shows who your real friends are. Mistakes were made, but biomass is a little extreme, go find a group of peeps who you can fit in with that won’t kick you for one little error, then wardec FLA and come see who we really are. -
Tarphon Caldari Realm of Majestic Empire	Posted - 2007.01.31 09:31:00 - [88] Actually he was kicked for other issues as well, this was the straw it appears. __________________________________ ISD broke my sig :(
Dekiri Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.01.31 11:05:00 - [89] He might be a douche, but at least he had enough balls to admit fault =) Just rethink your actions a bit and try to understand why you got removed from your corp. Take a step back and think about everything and then join another corp. Not everyone reads the forums here and most don't care about what you write here. Even if you where acting like a retard here that does not mean you can't find a good corp =) Because if that meant you can't find a good corp anymore then we would not have corps or alliances anymore, because most people have acted like retards on the forums before in one or the other way =) (except me ofc) --------------------------------- Exanimo Inc. - Mercs for hire Join channel "CONTRACT EXAN" in game if you wish to hire Exanimo Inc. Or contact cptblood or kakanur

Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.01.31 12:19:00 - [90] O.k this thread has run its cource and the ops questions were answered, its now gone off topic. click. - Thanks Hutch. ____ forum rules \| Email us They call me "Hutch" because my name is well... long


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