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Sarf
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Posted - 2007.01.30 23:25:00 -
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/signed
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Mason X
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Posted - 2007.01.30 23:45:00 -
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thanks for all the support guys
and to everyone that has posted against this suggestion...
this is a change that would have 0 negative effect, its not like other changes that make something better and something worse.
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Rhaegar Targarin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.01.30 23:46:00 -
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Aye, no reason for anyone to oppose this change other than to be a jerk on the forums. It is only a good thing.
Rhaegar Targarin - Minmatar Combat Pilot |

Admai Sket
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Posted - 2007.01.30 23:55:00 -
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Although I'd normally say "GET THE **** OUT OF JITA" - this idea allows more people to leave Jita quicker - so I have to say...
/SIGNED !
I got my sig snipped again. Can someone make me a new one? |

Blade Ranger
N.W.A
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Posted - 2007.01.31 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Mason X thanks for all the support guys
and to everyone that has posted against this suggestion...
this is a change that would have 0 negative effect, its not like other changes that make something better and something worse.
Wrong. It does have a negative effect. It makes operating in Jita, a known cause of lag in many different parts of the game, easier. Why would we want to do that?
Making Jita easier to operate in=making Jita more attractive=more people in Jita=bad thing.
If getting out of a station annoys just ONE person enough to have them leave Jita, then I'm all for turning ALL stations in Jita so they face away from the gates :D |

Mason X
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Posted - 2007.01.31 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: Blade Ranger
Originally by: Mason X thanks for all the support guys
and to everyone that has posted against this suggestion...
this is a change that would have 0 negative effect, its not like other changes that make something better and something worse.
Wrong. It does have a negative effect. It makes operating in Jita, a known cause of lag in many different parts of the game, easier. Why would we want to do that?
Making Jita easier to operate in=making Jita more attractive=more people in Jita=bad thing.
If getting out of a station annoys just ONE person enough to have them leave Jita, then I'm all for turning ALL stations in Jita so they face away from the gates :D
this problem is a problem for people undocking which is what you do on the way out getting into jita is nice and fast, getting out is a *****, so making it much much faster to get out would mean less lag in jita.
Also your comment "a known cause of lag in many different parts of the game" is complete and utter bull****. Jita is on its own node, so it doesnt detract from the resounrces of any place else.
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KHEN
Gallente New Horizons
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Posted - 2007.01.31 01:11:00 -
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great idea fo a need for speed goal
/signed
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Blade Ranger
N.W.A
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Posted - 2007.01.31 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Mason X
Originally by: Blade Ranger
Originally by: Mason X thanks for all the support guys
and to everyone that has posted against this suggestion...
this is a change that would have 0 negative effect, its not like other changes that make something better and something worse.
Wrong. It does have a negative effect. It makes operating in Jita, a known cause of lag in many different parts of the game, easier. Why would we want to do that?
Making Jita easier to operate in=making Jita more attractive=more people in Jita=bad thing.
If getting out of a station annoys just ONE person enough to have them leave Jita, then I'm all for turning ALL stations in Jita so they face away from the gates :D
this problem is a problem for people undocking which is what you do on the way out getting into jita is nice and fast, getting out is a *****, so making it much much faster to get out would mean less lag in jita.
Also your comment "a known cause of lag in many different parts of the game" is complete and utter bull****. Jita is on its own node, so it doesnt detract from the resounrces of any place else.
There were what, 5 freighters in that shot?
This suggests that people frequent that particular station for a reason.
You think turning the station so people can leave more easily will mean they don't come back? Come on, you know it doesn't work like that.
Hopefully thinking that getting out is a PITA will make people think twice about going IN.
And if being on its own node means Jita doesn't cause lag ANYWHERE else, then why did they just:
Remove the belts Change the gates Move the agents
All these things seem to suggest that - shock horror - Jita causes problems for more than just Jita.
So the point stands. The harder Jita is to "use" the better. Hopefully it will put people off going there in the first place. |

Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.01.31 01:29:00 -
[39]
/signed
And move my statue to the corresponding position infront of the exit.
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Strel Samodelkin
Caldari Nationalist Party
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Posted - 2007.01.31 01:31:00 -
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Originally by: Aceoil /signed.
/roleplay The owners of Jita 44 (Caldari Navy) should spend the money to rotate the station, and upgrade the undocking platform. That poor station sees so many travelers it is in terrible need of an upgrade. The Caldari Navy are now the richest navy in the universe just because of the taxes they collect. /roleplay
We refuse to take crap from you and will probably ignore your ludicrous request to rotate the station. If you're having trouble docking at our stations, you should not have a pilot's license.
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Lyzander
Caldari Mugen Academy
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Posted - 2007.01.31 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: Strel Samodelkin We refuse to take crap from you and will probably ignore your ludicrous request to rotate the station. If you're having trouble docking at our stations, you should not have a pilot's license.
Problems docking makes for unhappy visitors.
Unhappy visitors makes for bad business.
Bad business makes all Caldari sad. 
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hotgirl933
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Posted - 2007.01.31 02:52:00 -
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perhaps leave it as is use the other stations instead
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Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2007.01.31 03:19:00 -
[43]
complimentary "dont go to jita" post
along with a /signed so people dont get all up-close-and-personal with each other trying to get out of that station.
Seriously, I just took up a temp alt (was too far and cba to make a 30jump trip with my main) to check on Jita and besides the complimentary 3-ctds-per-min problem, Jita 4/4 does need some work.
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Rick Thwaites
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.31 04:08:00 -
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/Signed.
It will clear Jita quick. And stop me from getting 'black screen of death'-ed. = )! -- Max sig dimensions are 400W x 120H - Cathath ([email protected])
Purple matches your eyes a little better, Cathath. = )!
Not the first time I have been told I am too big... |

JForce
N.W.A Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss
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Posted - 2007.01.31 04:36:00 -
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Originally by: Rick Thwaites /Signed.
It will clear Jita quick. And stop me from getting 'black screen of death'-ed. = )!
Come on, this doesn't make any sense.
Jita is popular as a market hub for the following reasons:
Lots of stations Lots of access (many gates) Central location to Eve-on-easy-mode-space
So what you're trying to do is make it even easier to use Jita. That might make the people in there get out sooner, but there will be a lot more of them.... |

Eralus
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Posted - 2007.01.31 05:15:00 -
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Originally by: Alumion Jita doesn't deserve any special attention. Why would CCP turn it over - after all they are trying to make people LEAVE Jita
If they rotate it, people will be able to leave Jita quicker. _____ Lifewire is a big, ugly, mean... carebear. |

Dread Phantom
Caldari Project-Chaos
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Posted - 2007.01.31 10:01:00 -
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at people saying quicker throughput = more lag
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Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.31 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Raneru Signed, with a very large black marker pen.
signed ------
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DarkFenix
Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.31 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Devilish Ledoux If you want to fix Jita 4/4, just make it the setting for the "Gallente Navy Fires Doomsday Weapon at Heart of Caldari Commercial Center" event.
Once the server reboots, a new era will dawn!
Win.
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Gemini Zero
Caldari Agony Unleashed
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Posted - 2007.01.31 11:13:00 -
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don't go to jita responses are not productive. people will always be going to jita. the main problem with jita is the lag from so many pilots being in the system at one time. if it was easier to undock from 4-4 many pilots would get in and out of jita much faster, meaning....less people in jita.
/SIGNED
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Gemini Zero
Caldari Agony Unleashed
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Posted - 2007.01.31 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Blade Ranger
Hopefully thinking that getting out is a PITA will make people think twice about going IN.
And if being on its own node means Jita doesn't cause lag ANYWHERE else, then why did they just:
Remove the belts Change the gates Move the agents
All these things seem to suggest that - shock horror - Jita causes problems for more than just Jita.
So the point stands. The harder Jita is to "use" the better. Hopefully it will put people off going there in the first place.
The changes in belts, gates, and agents in no way suggests that Jita causes problems for other nodes. Those changes were simply made to make Jita's node even more stable.
Also your logic about making Jita harder to access is well ridiculous. Maybe the next time your car stalls, you should take off the wheels, you know, to make it even harder for you to use it. Then maybe it will work better??? I don't think so, you fix the damn car.
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Grim Fantago
Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.31 11:26:00 -
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lol, at all ppl who dont like this idea and dont want this station to be rotated just to make Jita worse. I hope you get as much lag as possible everywhere you go, i hope you get stuck in jump queues, near stations and in belts.
I like this game, i really do. When playing i hate to get lag - sometimes it ruins gaming experience. And this suggestion is made in order to decrease lag, not to make life easier for bears. So, although i havent been in jita for ages, maybe will never go there again, i say "/signed". Just because it helps dealing with lag.
/signed ____________________
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Aaron Static
Igneus Auctorita
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Posted - 2007.01.31 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Devilish Ledoux If you want to fix Jita 4/4, just make it the setting for the "Gallente Navy Fires Doomsday Weapon at Heart of Caldari Commercial Center" event.
Once the server reboots, a new era will dawn!
/signed
- Igneus Auctorita Video - |

Xcom
Gallente Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.31 12:12:00 -
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Some people are just plain stupid. Jita is a market hub! ItĘs a place were people gather to sell stuff. The sell rate and mass need for supplies makes Jita one of the most important systems in eve. You can't nuke Jita because a market hub will always exist in this game. If not Jita it will be some other system.
You donĘt nuke Wallmark because to many people shop their. You create more parking slots and hire more people.
Now that we have established the reason why Jita is here and that it's essential to the EVE population. We can start improving it by making it lag less. Turning this station is in the right direction.
Making it a non-war zone would even make the system less laggy sense people wouldnĘt camp the system for war targets.
Removal of agents and belts was to prevent people to mission run or mine in that system to create more lag.
Get a clue people, get a clue.
Oh Grim Fandango. Awesome game next to Xcom ofc.
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Angelic Resolution
Arcanum Defence Forces
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Posted - 2007.01.31 12:25:00 -
[55]
OP signed.
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Twilight Moon
Minmatar Malicious Intentions
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Posted - 2007.01.31 12:27:00 -
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Why not just put a few (like...oooh...20) CONCORD battleships outside it, officer smartbombs 24/7?
That would sort out the lag.
Originally by: Tisanta i cry when i read your sig...
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.01.31 12:32:00 -
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Simple solution: Make all stations (and the undock points as well) rotate. That way we'll have an even distribution of ships in a circle around the station. Of course if it rotates on more than one axis you could have a number of intersecting circles on different axes, giving undocking ships even more space.
Or, make stations launch ships like an aircraft carrier. When you undock you get blasted out at 10km/sec. ----------
IBTL \o/ EVE is upside down! WTZ+Slower Warp=Win |

Roshan longshot
Gallente Ordos Humanitas
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Posted - 2007.01.31 12:57:00 -
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Buying 93.75m trit in Jita? Who did you buy it from and was he in a mining corp?
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter pirate or mixture of them all.
[i]As read from the original box.
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Mason X
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Posted - 2007.01.31 13:01:00 -
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Nice to see this thread is still up there :) Not nice to see so many people opposing the change for no reason at all, why??
Oh well, hopfully a dev gets to read this and will take it into consideration, this is just one specific example of this particular issue, although probably the most important case of it in eve, so hopefully at some stage the devs can look at the issue and resolve it here and other places it has become a problem.
Thanks for all the support!
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thesulei
Syndicate Technologies
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Posted - 2007.01.31 13:09:00 -
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As somebody who undocks there in a freighter multiple times per day, I say "signed"!
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