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Empiress
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Posted - 2007.01.31 00:28:00 -
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Overseers in the 5/10 Outgrowth Drone Hive now respawn at the proper rate. Some Overseer spawns have been removed.
What this means, is:
The first person to get logged in and warp to the complex gets all of the overseers in the levels -
Level One ( 9th Tier )
Level Two ( 10th Tier )
Level Four ( 12th Tier)
Level Five ( 13th Tier )
Level Six ( 14th Tier )
Level Seven ( 15th Tier )
Anybody else coming in after the first person can only get Levels One and Two Overseers. _ Unless _ they have Trained SCIENCE to level 5, AND PLASMA PHYSICS to Level 4 _ then they can go through the Shortcut to get another Level 4 Overseer.
After that, the only Overseers re-spawn in Level One and Two.
How can THIS be fair to anybody else that wants to run the plex? If you are not online at startup - and the first one to the plex... you might as well go find something else to do ALL Day, because you're not going to like wasting lots of Ammo on targets that have 0.0 Isk Value.
If this does not change immediately - I will find a Different Game to send my $$$$ hard earned money to.
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Tingyn
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Posted - 2007.01.31 00:55:00 -
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Hmm this is a very bad spawn rate, as i read the bog note's it had said it would return to old spawn time's, as this is not true ! i just spent 3 hour's and nothing has spawned at all but drone's, ( waste of time and ammo ) i sure hopw ccp work's on this, as i have no skill to fly in 0.0 to make isk, and i have done all the boring mining i can stand for, as the 5/10 plex a few run's per day and you can go shoping and make thing's happen
fly safe 
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xXStarSaberXx
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Posted - 2007.01.31 00:58:00 -
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Hi, i feel the same about this, first come first serve 1 time oer day :( not good 
i was hoping thsat it would be like it was random lev 4 and lev 6 but nothing all day, i hope ccp fix's this soon !
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DamnedSpirit
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Posted - 2007.01.31 06:10:00 -
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couldnt agree more, there is no chance of me getting to run any complexes now |
Hunter Hughes
Caldari
Semita Umbra
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Posted - 2007.01.31 06:42:00 -
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My fellow corp mates and I have recently moved our WHOLE operation to the system of Ordat. Now you put out a nerf on the complexes... Yes i realize that there has been a problem with people camping the plexes, but this is NOT the solution. All this does is make life immposibly hard for the majority who play this game fairly, without exploiting the complex respawns. Furthermore, we will not be able to go into 0.0 to rat because of its infestation of pirates and hostile-to-everyone allinaces. This nerf is clearly the result of horrible planning and some developer waiting till the last minute to solve the problem of complex campers... i suggest that you develop your ideas before the day that you put them into action... thanks for using you brains, if you can call them that..
 Originally by: GinoShin
Edited by: GinoShin on 21/11/2006 11:41:44
whats evemon is it like a jamican wiseman?
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Moostang
Celestial Horizon Corp.
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Posted - 2007.01.31 11:00:00 -
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I sooo agree. The 5/10 plex used to be worth the time it required to do it properly but now it's not worth cow dung.
Today I was the only one that touched the plex for the 15 hours before downtime. I saw two spawns from each boss. I NEVER saw any overseer related spawns in the 5th or shortcut level. If this is CCP's way of FIXING things...I hope they dont touch anything of real importance.
Please show us you know what you're doing CCP and FIX what you just broke.
[CLS] Moostang
Celestial Horizon
"G" Spot Division
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Dkiler
Gallente
Dkiller Delta Force Corp.
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Posted - 2007.02.02 03:23:00 -
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Man you really screwed up the 5/10 plex , how is it possible it will only respwan after D.T. this means if im at work and come online to do the plex i cant koss you nerfed it , yes there have been problems with farmers, but in the system we live in we blow them up and pod them all, thats why my sec is -2,3 atm wich used to be 5+ . we take care of our home , but by you nerfing the plex to once a day dosint make sence at all. what are we suppose to do now for an income ? mine all belts so they dont respawn , maybe thats an idea zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
TUMBS DOWN CCP
signed
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Tai Wan
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Posted - 2007.02.02 12:30:00 -
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I agree, the respawn times should be set back to as it was before the current patch, this gives players more opportunity to try th elex as well. Th eplex is hard enough so should be hte reward.
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Disacoustic
Zooner Corp
G.U.A.R.D.
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Posted - 2007.02.02 12:44:00 -
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I agree, too...this "fix" sounds really weird.
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Potes
Amarr
Dkiller Delta Force Corp.
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Posted - 2007.02.02 13:03:00 -
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Signed!
This is an outrage!
CCP need to find different methods to combat macroers/farmers and ruining the game for the rest is not the way to do it!!!
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Che Che
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Posted - 2007.02.02 13:58:00 -
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Well i run missions get some isk, oh i have to stop now because i need to fix my standings...
I go run plex oh i cant run plex someone already in there...
I go 0.0 oh no i just got blown up at first gate to 0.0...
So ok dont panic i can do level 4 missions, but whats this a rumour about faction wars and those mission *****s are going to get hit hard ;/
Oh right so HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO EARN ISK WITH OUR PVP SKILLS NOW?? COME CCP ENLIGHTEN ME PLEASE.
Corps and individual players relied on the plexes for income.
CCP are supposed to trial before making changes correct? I cant see anyone thinking this was a good idea except if it cut a corner.
How about making some entrances to making some isk in empire instead of closing them! seems only way to make isk is in 0.0 by joining an alliance!! tsk tsk
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Ajurna Jakar
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Posted - 2007.02.02 15:19:00 -
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signed
this is kinda stupid.
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Warchild82
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Posted - 2007.02.02 15:21:00 -
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after losing alot of sec and time to pushing campers out of our plex. (quite a boring job at times) this is the reward we get?
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sharkyballs
Amarr
Dkiller Delta Force Corp.
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Posted - 2007.02.02 16:12:00 -
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/signed
so now i guess we're just all going to have to move systems and find somthing else to do? one person going through this thing a day is quite a rediculus concept.
and what about those boring times while we're not defending our system or when corpmates arn't online. now it's quite boring cause all we can do is sit in station, go to bed early and hope we're the first to enter the plex after downtime. oh well, back to missions to pass the time i guess, and that's not my idea of a replacement.
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MonaLisa Overdrive
Gallente
Golden Aardvark Society
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Posted - 2007.02.02 16:41:00 -
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It is working against the "easy in and do something fun" intentions
hope soon fixed, and not soonÖ
best regards
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Bitchslap
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Posted - 2007.02.02 17:07:00 -
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after 2-3y in the game im sereiusly thinking of taking my gaming somewhere else 
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Richard Aiel
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Posted - 2007.02.02 19:40:00 -
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I dont like the idea iof perminantly mining out belts cause unless they start adding systems faster then all the belts are gonna get mined, especially considering how many miners and macrominers there are out there.
See the funny thing is they seem to be doing the... "this is my game an ill make it how i want to aso get used to it" attidude and thats NOT a good attitude to have especially with such a small and specific fan base.
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Gaogan
Gallente
Solar Storm
X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.02.02 20:05:00 -
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I thought they were fixing plexes to respawn at random times instead of right after dt and again 12 hours later?
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Ranik
Gallente
1st G.U.N.S. Richthofen
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Posted - 2007.02.02 20:07:00 -
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signed!
no more comments needet!
Reallife is the game with the best graphics i know :-) |
hotgirl933
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Posted - 2007.02.02 20:12:00 -
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u can still get overseer affects off the new exploration areas and theres way to many drone areas out there versus other plex types so get out and explore and make use of the hidden stuff
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Richard Aiel
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Posted - 2007.02.02 20:16:00 -
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Im gonna play devil's advocate an post something I saw in a chat thats on the other side of the argument but still made sense to me:
basing your entire EVE existence around one type of plex is not the best way to play.
It was only matter of time till they nerfed it cause of the macroers
people grind cause its the easiest, less risky adn less celebral way to make isks
I too was guilty of farming the drone bases, but in a way im glad theyre gone cause I have to play diferently now
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Moostang
Celestial Horizon Corp.
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Posted - 2007.02.02 21:25:00 -
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Edited by: Moostang on 02/02/2007 21:23:13
Originally by: Richard Aiel
Im gonna play devil's advocate an post something I saw in a chat thats on the other side of the argument but still made sense to me:
basing your entire EVE existence around one type of plex is not the best way to play.
It was only matter of time till they nerfed it cause of the macroers
people grind cause its the easiest, less risky adn less celebral way to make isks
I too was guilty of farming the drone bases, but in a way im glad theyre gone cause I have to play diferently now
I personally spent 2 months of 23/7 (obviously afk for some of it(perception is a powerful tool))guarding a 5/10 plex and combating 3 different groups of asian farmers. 3 of my toons got negative sec status in the process just so my corp could use the plex to better itself. It really ****es me off that CCP just blew away all the work I put into getting rid of the farmers when it's CCP that should have been investigating the farmers accounts and shutting them down for breaking the TOS.
I do the work, ccp slaps me down. Yea, sure makes me want to continue playing. It's not just the plex that makes us want to quit...it's CCP's lack of customer care. I guess those farmers do make up more of the profits to ccp than the real players that play for fun.
[CLS] Moostang
Celestial Horizon
"G" Spot Division
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DamnedSpirit
Amarr
Triumvirate
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Posted - 2007.02.03 12:27:00 -
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im seriously aggitated with this change to the complex spawn times, i have taken the time to log on after dt everyday since the patch just so i could maybe have a shot at running a plex only to find 3-4 other people thinking the same thing as me. This change is horrible.. to think only 1 person a day can run through a complex is a joke. |
Richard Aiel
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Posted - 2007.02.04 02:34:00 -
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bumping to the top again cause this shouldnt just be buried
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Dhunter
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Posted - 2007.02.05 00:22:00 -
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CCP what did u doooooooooooooooooooooo ?????? pffs
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Shouwlin
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Posted - 2007.02.05 03:41:00 -
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I mean honestly...
When i am rolling out of bed before work, its like an hour after DT is over. I dont have a shot in **** of getting a chance at jumpin in the plex during the day with this new system.
FIX IT
thx
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protoss001
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Posted - 2007.02.06 00:39:00 -
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Well, the EVE game seems to be revolving around one thing, Making Isk. Now we all know the old ways of doing it but regardless, this game is primarily driven by the market right? so, that in mind the lower the income of everyone the lower the cost for items.
In the end I believe CCP is betting on the market to stabilize, I'm sure they are calling growing pains if you will. But, have they taken into account all the money the farmers are injecting to the market. There is only one reason the prices have not stabilized and that is rich kids that BUY isk from the FARMERS.
if only someone would make the little tards understand this, that would be great. Do Not buy isk from farmers!!!
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Richard Aiel
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Posted - 2007.02.06 03:14:00 -
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Farmers kill ecomonies yes, thats not to be disputed: look at WoW especially the Eredar server. Everything that used to cost a silver costs a gold or more cause of the rampant goldfarming
However, less isk doesnt mean the prices go down usually, it means the prices go up or stay the same and there are just less people that can afford what they used to be able to afford. I think its called a recession.
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Richard Aiel
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Posted - 2007.02.07 05:00:00 -
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again, good topic...
*BZZZZT* Breathe damn you, breathe!! *BZZZZZZT*
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Pilk
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.02.07 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Moostang
I personally spent 2 months of 23/7 (obviously afk for some of it(perception is a powerful tool))guarding a 5/10 plex and combating 3 different groups of asian farmers. 3 of my toons got negative sec status in the process just so my corp could use the plex to better itself. It really ****es me off that CCP just blew away all the work I put into getting rid of the farmers when it's CCP that should have been investigating the farmers accounts and shutting them down for breaking the TOS.
I do the work, ccp slaps me down. Yea, sure makes me want to continue playing. It's not just the plex that makes us want to quit...it's CCP's lack of customer care. I guess those farmers do make up more of the profits to ccp than the real players that play for fun.
This is a joke, right? You're calling them farmers when you were on 23/7 with three different characters for two solid months? You want them investigated when you were taking advantage of a ludicrous respawn timer that was obviously not working as intended?
To all the people complaining--go work out your RoI for time spent running this plex with three characters, and compare to mining in that same time. QED. Here's a hint: even 7/10 plexes are not worth it unless you can do them very, very fast.
--P
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Richard Aiel
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Posted - 2007.02.08 14:51:00 -
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Yay an actual non hypothetical person thats on the other side of the debate! and as I reread what was written there.... it DOES look like tghat one guy was farming just as bad as the farers themselves.... nice job hypocrate lol
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Richard Aiel
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Posted - 2007.02.09 06:21:00 -
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See the real, significant problem here, is that, to remove a way for farers to.... farm, thay have given the hives essentially, to the hivers that get to the hive first.
"So set up a caop mission there" was one response I heard... how can you do than and ensure that noone beats you there first? Also, CCP has effectively made it so the US dont have access to Hives at all unless they play into the wee hours of the morning. Here, in the Eastern Time Zone of the US & Canada, have downtime at around 6 am... I Work and am unable to play until this time so the new change has made it so I at least can never run Hives and expect it to drop snything.
In their attempt to take something away from tyhe farmers, they have in facty taken something away from the rest of us and given it to anyone that can camp the gate long enough so that they are there right after DT.
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Dhunter
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Posted - 2007.02.10 04:22:00 -
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well since u nerfed away our 5/10 , we are comming for yahh bobbits , watch yahh back¦s 
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Richard Aiel
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Posted - 2007.02.11 18:09:00 -
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*BZZZT* Breathe dang you, breathe *BUZZZZT
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Richard Aiel
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Posted - 2007.02.12 04:36:00 -
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*BZZZT*
"doctor, were losin him"
BZZZT
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Richard Aiel
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Posted - 2007.02.12 17:11:00 -
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*BZZZT*
beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
"Im calling it, time of death, 12:08 2/12/07"
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SlackJawedSlayer
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Posted - 2007.02.12 18:24:00 -
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If this topic had a better name, i would have seen it sooner.
My corp was sharing a 5/10 rogue drone with some russians for the last year and have stuck with it through the thick and thing. In the past we've seen a good few nerfs to it, but none like the current one. It was pretty bad that the minerals dropped lost all their value once the rogue drone regions started dropping minerals like no tomorrow.
It really is just one... maybe two runs a day off it.
Seems the only way to make money is to sit in the 7th level all day collecting minerals... which isnt really what plexes are for i thought. It just simple an ammo waste now... and after just running off a pack of asian macro's with the help of the early bird russians, i feel cheated. The new 0.0 is good and all... but its no good old reliable to plex to go run when your pvp ships go boom.
I do know it was spawning way to fast for about the last 3 months, some people had been making 250 mil solo camping the easily expoited 5th... but with that overseer removed i dont see why they had to completly nerf the rest.
/signed
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Richard Aiel
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Posted - 2007.02.12 20:05:00 -
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"Wait Doctor, I think I felt a pulse"
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Bitchslap
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Posted - 2007.02.14 10:02:00 -
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ohhh , afirmative , yes we got a pluse 
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Zatch
Gallente
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2007.02.18 06:40:00 -
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Great, now I can't make money in character when I lose ships out in low sec. In character? That means no mining (PvP character) and no switching to alts. So much for a rich experience, more like losing a ship, waiting a day, making a little ISK, waiting a day, making a little ISK, waiting a day ...
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Tari Lok
Knights of Chaos
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Posted - 2007.02.27 10:17:00 -
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Signed. This is not the way to 'fix' the macro problem!
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Gaius Xenon
Vortex.
Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.28 23:57:00 -
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An idea:
Why not make it so the stage you are currently in NEVER has a chance to respawn while a player is in it - this solves the issue of just sitting in a stage farming minerals and effects - it makes you warp out and start all over again if you want to do anything. Couple problems of course that would have to be worked out regarding this - preventing somebody from waiting in stage exact amount of time until the respawn was scheduled to take place, which could be fixed by making the respawn time based on when the last person left the stage. This of course risks some jerk sitting in a stage all day afk, so maybe another solution is just make some way that forces a person out of a stage of a complex after some reasonable amount of time.
Gaius
Diplomat,
Maelstrom Alliance
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Draco Ronan
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Posted - 2007.03.01 02:49:00 -
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No response from a Dev. Maybe we need to keep this thing up for 1 year and 13 pages like the 'Caldari Carrier' thread...
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Bitchslap
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Posted - 2007.03.20 13:03:00 -
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lolz
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B0rn2KiLL
DEATHFUNK
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Posted - 2007.03.20 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Draco Ronan
No response from a Dev. Maybe we need to keep this thing up for 1 year and 13 pages like the 'Caldari Carrier' thread...
:/
the 5\10 plex hit has affected lowsec harshly. non-0.0 inhabitants suffer a great loss in income. the 5\10 i had around used to nourish many corps, aswell as provide some people with GTC money. since then ive seen many people quit the game, iether out of disperation, loss of isk, or not being able to afford GTCs.
sure going to 0.0 wouldve been helpful. i did it personally. but its not easy. i spend most of my time in a covops, and got nearly killed many, many times. so 0.0 isnt easy for small corps that have alot of low sp people in them.
i think that nerfing the 5\10 is a huge error that CCP needs to re-think. missions are by no means anywhere near the profitablity of the 5\10s hive plexes. ive actually lost 2 ravens due to lagging out. damn huge npc + clouds cluster****s
CCP, many of us still urge you, reconsider the nerf.
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Originally by: Oveur
It's important to understand that EVE is a "PvP" focused game
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Elitros Calimah
Dkiller Delta Force Corp.
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Posted - 2007.03.26 06:31:00 -
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I feel really let down and sad about this.. I really wanted to make it to the mothership but I guess now I have to let it fester in my mind and drive me totaly crazy to the point of no return. All becuase I want to destroy the mothership....please ccp...you're our only hope.
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c0matose
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Posted - 2007.04.12 13:04:00 -
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Has this been fixed yet? If not, how much can you make an hour? I used to average around 30mill ish in 2006.
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Princess Morenta
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.05.24 03:31:00 -
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Power Bump
Signed!
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Pilk
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.24 05:55:00 -
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Please stop complaining that the free, bugged isk stopped dropping. This thread is whiny beyond compare.
--P
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