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Vlandarr
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Posted - 2003.12.13 10:19:00 -
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Well done guys... Cudo's to Katt and Thalen ....yes you got me... you guys can actually come together at times....won't give away our own tactics ...and yes INSURANCE was good to me ....be back down later in a shiny new scorpion....thanks for the clone jump...LOOKING forward towards more OC kills ...so keep up the great loot drops and BLIP counts...since EV has lost alot of stomach for this war...and once again good job )
Vlandarr
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Centuri
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Posted - 2003.12.13 13:30:00 -
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Edited by: Centuri on 13/12/2003 13:31:47 EV? Who are they?
13/12/03 1:30pm (GMT)= 19-3 to OC
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Domon
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Posted - 2003.12.14 11:21:00 -
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Is it me, or were EV conspicuously absent from our territories today also?
Tired of getting your noses bloodied? I think I will push my fearless leader to push our borders forward then if this is how you fight.
Tsk, tsk, tsk.
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Maasu
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Posted - 2003.12.15 00:24:00 -
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highly impressed with the level of respect we have both shown to each other.
good show.
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Thalen Mort
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Posted - 2003.12.15 03:20:00 -
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To belittle or demean your chosen enemies is to underestimate them.....dangerous thing to do....
Great fights out there....Hope to see more :)
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Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2003.12.15 03:51:00 -
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Quote: highly impressed with the level of respect we have both shown to each other.
good show.
You were once our allies. We respect your power, but we are against the path you chose. Perhaps if the CA chooses peace and decides to change Omega can go to Curse.
Although that goes against your current doctrine of keeping the rear of stain and reforming the C4 Alliance, it would be much better for us as we wouldnt need to be holding grudges or engaging in battles.
Taken from the May 29th 2003 Devchat at EveGate . <Muaddid> Q: When will sentry gun and station and similar construction pods be introduced on the market? <Hellmar> we have various player owned entities already implemented. Sentry guns, power/shield generators, field repair mini-stations, mobile refineries. We are still working out the last tidbits of how they can be over taken, what is the penalty of having a sentry gun kill a n00b etc. and we have been a bit busy with plugging the holes that people have found.I would say that you'd start to see these items on the market in about 2-3 weeks, very expensive to begin with |
Domon
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Posted - 2003.12.15 10:30:00 -
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Quote: blah blah blah... Omega can go to Curse.
Not to let a cat out of the bag, but out of everything I have heard in game and on TS, its not likely to happen.
BTW, you have no idea what our plans are and your post shows it. And that is perhaps more than I should say.
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Duke Droklar
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Posted - 2003.12.15 11:09:00 -
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UPDATE: Week of 12-7 / 12-14 2 OC Scorps downed. 10 SA BS's downed.
War total combat losses to date: 3 OC BS's 20 SA BS's
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Instrument
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Posted - 2003.12.15 13:27:00 -
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Can we have some details for the loses for last week. Its just I thought SW had a good week
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Malikon
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Posted - 2003.12.15 15:18:00 -
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Just reviewed this weekend's happenings and I must agree with an earlier poster in commenting on the level of respect that has been displayed by both sides. Obviously, OC and SW (as I don't see other SA corps posting) are stand up corps.
this is the morning bump.
let the games continue. good luck to all!!!
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Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2003.12.15 15:58:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: blah blah blah... Omega can go to Curse.
Not to let a cat out of the bag, but out of everything I have heard in game and on TS, its not likely to happen.
BTW, you have no idea what our plans are and your post shows it. And that is perhaps more than I should say.
You are an idiot, I do know your plans as your CEO openly stated them here.
Let me post and highlight the juicy parts just for you since you are far too ignoratnt to even know your own corporations public plans.
Quote: Omega Corp is seeking 2-3 corps that are interested in joining the C4 Alliance. Corps will need to have an active core membership that are PvP or are willing to be trained in Pvp.
Long term goals includes territorial control, station construction, commercial economy building with unaffiliated settlers and protection services provided to these settlers.
Short term goals are focused on controling the rear 3 constellations of Stain from RPS-OK back to 0t-lib. This area is currently a warzone with the SA (primarily EV/SW) so make no mistakes what this involves. This is NOT for the faint of heart.
We intend for the C4 to eventually coexist peacefully with the CA and possibly with the remaining SA if peace agreements can be achieved.
Some will say this is an attempt to get "cannon fodder" for the OC war. I can assure you that OC will always hold your corps welfare and asset risks in as high regard as our own.
Although the war is in its early stages it is going exceedingly well. For those that do not fear the paper tiger of the SA this is an opportunity to get in on the ground floor of an alliance that will be focused on prosperity through military strength and territorial development.
Note: The website is woefully out of date so contact Specter in game to discuss the issue in more depth.
Now to the rest of you, I do know what Omega's plans are because your CEO told everyone what your plans are. The idea of moving to curse is a good one in that you can immediately co-exist with the SA peacefully, however I'm not saying that wont happen in the future if you keep your current path as anything can happen.
I'd rather have you guys as friends than enemies, but I believe in the Councils decision (please dont be making EV BS comments as I was also a part of MASS and I have had not been in EV long enough to have say in much) and will enforce it.
Taken from the May 29th 2003 Devchat at EveGate . <Muaddid> Q: When will sentry gun and station and similar construction pods be introduced on the market? <Hellmar> we have various player owned entities already implemented. Sentry guns, power/shield generators, field repair mini-stations, mobile refineries. We are still working out the last tidbits of how they can be over taken, what is the penalty of having a sentry gun kill a n00b etc. and we have been a bit busy with plugging the holes that people have found.I would say that you'd start to see these items on the market in about 2-3 weeks, very expensive to begin with |
Tholarim
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Posted - 2003.12.15 16:17:00 -
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Quote: Can we have some details for the loses for last week. Its just I thought SW had a good week
As mentioned OC lost 2 scorps this week and a few BB's, I don't have the exact number on the BB's though. But i think the cruiser losses kinda evened out this week on both sides.
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Malikon
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Posted - 2003.12.15 16:22:00 -
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oh boy..here we go with the name calling. i ask for everyone to disregard that errant comment and not let it get in the way of what really counts....KILL TOTALS!
thanks.
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Moe Sczyzlak
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Posted - 2003.12.15 22:15:00 -
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And just when the thread and the parties involved got praised for the level of respect..
Quote: You are an idiot, I do know your plans as your CEO openly stated them
Please? Now let's all be nice.
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The Monk
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Posted - 2003.12.15 22:24:00 -
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who is winning the omega vs sa/evol war? ----------------------- ╔╤╗╒╕╔╕║║/ ║│║╘╛║╘╝║\ ----------------------- |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.12.15 22:35:00 -
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Quote: who is winning the omega vs sa/evol war?
It's Omega vs EV/SW, as far as I'm aware.
I don't get too involved with OC - OC players who are willing to undock/fight play at the wrong time zone for me so I swiftly got bored of them.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Malikon
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Posted - 2003.12.16 00:56:00 -
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scroll up monk...i think the score is 20-3 OC (BS only)
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Domon
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Posted - 2003.12.16 05:11:00 -
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Quote: You are an idiot, I do know your plans as your CEO openly stated them here.
You know nothing and are ignorant. And that is perhaps a bit too little of what I should say.
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Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2003.12.16 07:47:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: You are an idiot, I do know your plans as your CEO openly stated them here.
You know nothing and are ignorant. And that is perhaps a bit too little of what I should say.
You said my post showed how little I knew, yet I refuted you with the words of your CEO to back up my post. I obviously knew more than you when it came to your corporations public plans.
Taken from the May 29th 2003 Devchat at EveGate . <Muaddid> Q: When will sentry gun and station and similar construction pods be introduced on the market? <Hellmar> we have various player owned entities already implemented. Sentry guns, power/shield generators, field repair mini-stations, mobile refineries. We are still working out the last tidbits of how they can be over taken, what is the penalty of having a sentry gun kill a n00b etc. and we have been a bit busy with plugging the holes that people have found.I would say that you'd start to see these items on the market in about 2-3 weeks, very expensive to begin with |
Instrument
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Posted - 2003.12.16 10:34:00 -
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who is winning the omega vs sa/evol war? (The monk)
With the losses standing at 20 SW/EV/(SA) to 3 BS this is going very strange but at the moment its proberly a draw with the SA/SW starting to pull ahead The first week without doubt was won by OC mainly by taking out solo SW BS this week SW has started to get its act together and has been acting in small groups and declining solo combats while still keeping the group sizes small enough that OC will be willing to engage in combat.
The SA can and has field fleets that are many times the size of OC but OC is smart enough not to engage a large fleet that would destroy them and wait it out in safe locations.
What OC has been very good at so far has been to concentrate there forces to have a local advantage as stated above most of SW BS loses have been solo affairs were a single SW battle ship has attacked a single OC ship only to have a larger force of OC warp/undock/log in on top of them.
As to the actual numbers 3-20 BS I do feel that it is only fair to say that OC normally fields 50-66% blackbirds I understand that the mineral loss of a BB to a BS is almost nothing but it is hard to destroy a BS that is in the hanger.
The above is my honest view so please correct it were there are any errors that you know of
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Domon
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Posted - 2003.12.16 11:28:00 -
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Quote: With the losses standing at 20 SW/EV/(SA) to 3 BS this is going very strange but at the moment its proberly a draw with the SA/SW starting to pull ahead The first week without doubt was won by OC mainly by taking out solo SW BS this week SW has started to get its act together and has been acting in small groups and declining solo combats while still keeping the group sizes small enough that OC will be willing to engage in combat.
This is not true. This week has seen very little actual combat. SW/EV have for the most part withdrawn from our area. Perphaps to do some mining? . BTW, no other corps from SA have really come to fight us, so far. So you can probably stop calling this a civil war and start calling it a Civil Justice war. Could be that the taste of war shoved down their throats doesn't taste all that good, eh?
From what I have seen and heard my corp members say, the enemy activity in our borders has become such that we hold mining expeditions without nary a challenge from them. Or maybe they didn't want to get caught in our territory when the patch hit?
Uhh...how can you say SW/EV are pulling ahead when the score is 20-3? Maybe you need to learn a little more math...
BTW, there were plenty of skirmishes in that first week where there were more than one BS in the combat, and even numbers that were even steven, and a few that we engaged that we were slightly outgunned. I should know, I was there. The way you make it sound, we don't know how to fight off anything more than a BS or two... Well..actually we don't. So bring them in guys. We'll hide in station from ya...
The ratios for this week, although the combat has been light, are totally acceptable and indeed quite in OUR favor.. If they would have engaged more instead of hiding in their own territories, their losses could have been much worse. And in fact, these numbers do not tell the whole tale. There have been skirmishes that an enemy battleship just BARELY got away (2% structure on one of them). Could have easily been higher numbers that we could have posted for this week.
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Malikon
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Posted - 2003.12.16 15:08:00 -
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the morning bump...any new developments?
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Centuri
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Posted - 2003.12.16 15:33:00 -
[113]
Edited by: Centuri on 16/12/2003 16:00:39 Yes my good sir. Shrike of Evolution graced me with her presence in OT-LIB and proceed to fire on me. The smack was laid down and she was ended abrupty, Vlandarr also got the honours, reinforcing me at the last moment and both of us exacted the finishing blows. Evol apoc down. Welcome to OC territory Evol.
21-3 to OC it stands.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.12.16 16:07:00 -
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Only 21 to 3, that's not good. I hope that Omega will make a kill ratio of 1 to 50 and not just 1 to 7.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Centuri
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Posted - 2003.12.16 16:09:00 -
[115]
Gimme a couple of hours.
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TheFatman
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Posted - 2003.12.16 22:56:00 -
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Just going to point out the obvious just in case OC hasn't already.
-Amount of hours in a day you will find multiple EV battleships, operating and moving around Stain: 20+ hours in a day. (Its just a guess and not even taking into account Solarwinds Battleships moving around doing there thing)
-Amount of hours you will find multiple OC battleships operating and moving around stain: under 8 hours a day (and I believe I am being generous)
I hope CCP adds a ship kill counter to the game, I also hope they add a counter for active hours played. It was a nice feature that I saw in another game I played before this one. It kept people from bragging to much about how they were owning someone on kill count alone.
The way I see it now, is OC mounts short raids in a target rich enviroment, then retreats and logs. Am I whining about it? Nope, just pointing out that if you are using ship kill counts to see who is "winning" the war, your "score" is going to be useless.
The tactic OC is using can work though, if they can do enough raids to at enough random times, in order to keep EV from operating as normal. But as of the past couple of weeks, from what I can tell (without a counter for active corp hours played), EVs' activities in Stain have actually picked up.
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Centuri
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Posted - 2003.12.16 23:11:00 -
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EV/SW can disupute our kills if they want, we (SW and OC)post who was killed and what ship they lost and the post is generally close to the kill time. EV/SW have been looking and responding to this thread and they haven't disputed the kill count, so I would assume from that they agree to it.
As to the rest of the stuff, well....
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Duke Droklar
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Posted - 2003.12.17 00:50:00 -
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EV can hardly be found anywhere in Stain. We know, we are scouting far and wide looking for you. The main time we see EV members are when they are huddled with other SA corps that we are not actively engaging, but even that is rare these days.
C4 dominates about 75% of the day/night hours actively hunting any who have initiated hostilities. Of course when there's no enemies around to hunt we go about our business as usual. I grant you that about 25% of the time JOINT SA forces have tactical control but nobody claimed that C4 would immediately control 24/7. In fact I clearly stated that control would be back and forth.
SA prefers to line up all the soldiers in two opposing lines with muskets firing. Sorry if we don't fight that way against an opponent that has more assets at their disposal. There's a reason no other corp has been able to combat the SA... tactics.
We were betrayed and attacked. We will not roll over and we will give those that attack us the fight of their corps lives. We will hit them when they least expect it, vanishing as quickly as we appeared. We will deny them the peace that they threw away when they started this war.
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TheFatman
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Posted - 2003.12.17 01:04:00 -
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"We know, we are scouting far and wide looking for you"
Lol, seriously, when did you start doing this? Yesterday was the first time I saw one of your battlefleets past RPS. (I want to emphasize FLEET, not 1 or 2 guys ussually in blackbirds wandering around)
I am trying to keep this truthful mate, I did not dispute your claims on kill count, just on which corp is still operating as a effective corp.
Like I said though, until some kind of counter that tracked "active corp hours" is implemented, we will just have to count on our own eyes. From what I have seen of EVs operations all of them are humming along and busier than ever in Stain.
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Kulach
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Posted - 2003.12.17 01:17:00 -
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Quote: EV can hardly be found anywhere in Stain. We know, we are scouting far and wide looking for you. The main time we see EV members are when they are huddled with other SA corps that we are not actively engaging, but even that is rare these days.
C4 dominates about 75% of the day/night hours actively hunting any who have initiated hostilities. Of course when there's no enemies around to hunt we go about our business as usual. I grant you that about 25% of the time JOINT SA forces have tactical control but nobody claimed that C4 would immediately control 24/7. In fact I clearly stated that control would be back and forth.
SA prefers to line up all the soldiers in two opposing lines with muskets firing. Sorry if we don't fight that way against an opponent that has more assets at their disposal. There's a reason no other corp has been able to combat the SA... tactics.
We were betrayed and attacked. We will not roll over and we will give those that attack us the fight of their corps lives. We will hit them when they least expect it, vanishing as quickly as we appeared. We will deny them the peace that they threw away when they started this war.
I have not said anything in the forums before, but I strongly believe that our course is just (my personal opinion and should be respected as such), and I believe this can not be contradicted by any counter statement made so far by EV or SW (in my opinion).
I will fight under the strong but fair leadership of Duke to the bitter end (again my personal opinion and should be respected as such).
Furthermore I think some of the more aggressive statements (and immature) does not belong on the forums as we should all act like adults regardless each others age.
I see flaming and trolling as a poor excuse for not being able to understand that this is a game and not real life.
Grow up! Avoid the flaming and trolling at all points and act like adults!
If you have valid point regarding something, bring it forward (without quoting another pointless comment and insulting the speaker).
When quoting/commenting do it with consideration and respect.
After all we are just playing a game. There is no reason to be immature and not show respect for other peopleÆs comments.
Apologies if there are spelling/grammar issues, but I am not a native English speaker and have not got the spell checker on at the moment.
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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