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          Plight Sinake 
           
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.01 10:45:00 -
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          Long standing argument between me and a few people.... but can you answer this question.....
  Can shuttles be caught without a bubble and if the pilot has 1/2 a brain???
  Yeah i can catch the odd one or 2 but nowhere near all.... 
  Comments please :)
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          Djininia 
          Caldari State War Academy
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.01 10:59:00 -
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          A set of the widest AoE smart bombs you can fit fired immediately when the jump animation plays? Other than that, I can think of nothing.
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          DarkElf 
          Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.01 11:00:00 -
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          it depends on luck to a certain degree. if the shuttle goes through a gate and while cloaked he is pretty much aligned already with what he is warping to which sometimes happens then i don't think it is possible to scram in time. but if they have to do a 180 to warp then a ceptor with boosters and sig analysis 5 should be able to get it.
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          Plight Sinake 
           
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.01 11:11:00 -
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          yeah ive tried a ceptor with boosters and sig 5... 
  That was giving me a scan res of over 2000 still couldnt catch them!!
  I dont personally think it's possbile to catch them.. but just wondering if people can...
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          Djininia 
          Caldari State War Academy
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.01 13:00:00 -
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            Originally by: Plight Sinake yeah ive tried a ceptor with boosters and sig 5... 
  That was giving me a scan res of over 2000 still couldnt catch them!!
  I dont personally think it's possbile to catch them.. but just wondering if people can...
 
 
  Are smartbombs totally out of the question then? Maybe have a single smartbomb specialist or something, and have the other campers sitting outside of his range.
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          warpod 
           
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.01 15:57:00 -
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          u can catch shuttle in jita 4-4 on his undock
 
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          Xendie 
          Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.01 16:07:00 -
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          shuttles should be nerfed tbfh. they are supposed to be a cheap mode of transport not a instawarping low sig run around and **** off the enemy tool.
 
 
 
 
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          Deinomache 
           
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.01 16:16:00 -
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          I have had great success catching shuttles and the rest with a specifically setup inti. 
  Prob 60-70% successful.
  Its possible, just difficult.
 
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          Fanghorn Dewberry 
          Caldari The Flaming Sideburn's
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.01 16:39:00 -
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           I popped a shuttle in low sec with an interceptor  and escaped the gateguns. My corpmate deliberately attacked the billboard once we knew the target had jumped. Gateguns opened on him. I scramed and attacked the shuttle, pod escaped - I warped  . Well yes it was stupid but orders are orders :)
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          Soumk 
           
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.01 17:18:00 -
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           Nerf shuttles!
  Make them turn like freighters and give them a top speed of 47.5 m/s.
  Oh, and paint them all blaze orange so they can't hide.
 
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          DarkElf 
          Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.01 17:52:00 -
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            Originally by: Fanghorn Dewberry
  I popped a shuttle in low sec with an interceptor  and escaped the gateguns. My corpmate deliberately attacked the billboard once we knew the target had jumped. Gateguns opened on him. I scramed and attacked the shuttle, pod escaped - I warped  . Well yes it was stupid but orders are orders :)
 
 
  not really stupid. gate campers have been using that technique for a very long time.
  DE
 
 
 
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          DarkElf 
          Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.01 17:52:00 -
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            Originally by: Fanghorn Dewberry
  I popped a shuttle in low sec with an interceptor  and escaped the gateguns. My corpmate deliberately attacked the billboard once we knew the target had jumped. Gateguns opened on him. I scramed and attacked the shuttle, pod escaped - I warped  . Well yes it was stupid but orders are orders :)
 
 
  not really stupid. gate campers have been using that technique for a very long time.
  DE
 
 
 
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          Gix Firebrand 
          Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.01 21:32:00 -
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          Why would you want to catch one?
 
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          Portios Smith 
          Sanguine Legion
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.01 21:37:00 -
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            Originally by: Xendie shuttles should be nerfed tbfh. they are supposed to be a cheap mode of transport not a instawarping low sig run around and **** off the enemy tool.
 
 
 
  Quit ya whining, pods are just as good, next thing you are going to cry NERF PODS!  
 
 
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          Marcus TheMartin 
          Gallente Tuxedo.
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.01 21:54:00 -
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            Originally by: Gix Firebrand Why would you want to catch one?
 
 
 
  Because he's getting away with my snake omega!
  Half Assed Rhymage
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          Shichiro Motokana 
          Caldari
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.01 21:57:00 -
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            Originally by: Xendie shuttles should be nerfed tbfh. they are supposed to be a cheap mode of transport not a instawarping low sig run around and **** off the enemy tool.
 
 
 
  lol. awww, poor baby.
  shuttles don't need a nerf. they cant pwn you, why should you pwn them? -7san | 
      
      
      
          
          Marcus TheMartin 
          Gallente Tuxedo.
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.01 22:02:00 -
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            Originally by: Shichiro Motokana
   Originally by: Xendie shuttles should be nerfed tbfh. they are supposed to be a cheap mode of transport not a instawarping low sig run around and **** off the enemy tool.
 
 
 
  lol. awww, poor baby.
  shuttles don't need a nerf. they cant pwn you, why should you pwn them?
 
 
  Flawed logic here shuttles encourage alt scouts sitting 300km from a gate watching your every move
  Half Assed Rhymage
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          Kjewla 
          Minmatar TunDraGon
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.01 22:47:00 -
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          shuttles where a easy catch before stacking penalty..
 
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          Durethia 
          Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.01 22:48:00 -
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          Edited by: Durethia on 01/02/2007 22:48:26
   Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
  Flawed logic here shuttles encourage alt scouts sitting 300km from a gate watching your every move
 
 
  Maybe the max overview range of shuttles, noob ships and T1 frigates should be 50KM. Also, shuttles, noob ships at least, are unable to use the scanner as their ships are too small or lack the advanced scanning equipment. T1 frigates can use the scanner, but the scanner is primitive and only useful for whatever is within 100KM.
  The above will make it useless to have 1 day old "covert ops" scouts mucking around in 0.0. If you need a covert ops scout, send in a covert ops pilot or a skilled interceptor pilot. Put some money where your mouth is! Stop sending lame, nameless, alt shuttles into 0.0.
  I don't have a problem with the aligning speed of a shuttle. Truthfully, there are ships in game that align just as fast if not faster even. The Daredevil is one example of such a capable ship; and then you put inertial stabs on it... you'll practically enter warp sideways on a 180 degree align.
  But, what annoys me, is the killboards full of meaningless newb ship/shuttle kills of 1 day old alts. Make it less desirable for them to be used as a 0.0 annoyance. It's gotten to the point where I don't even bother targetting shuttles and newb ships, they don't even show up in my overview. If it weren't for GoonSwarm I would probably do the same for T1 frigates even.
 
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          Astrid Nemal 
           
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.02 16:21:00 -
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            Originally by: Xendie shuttles should be nerfed tbfh. they are supposed to be a cheap mode of transport not a instawarping low sig run around and **** off the enemy tool.
 
 
 
  So lemme get this straight because theres something small and fast you cant lock it has to be nerfed? *******s is all i can say Why the hell should you be able to lock everything ?
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          Gix Firebrand 
          Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.02 18:04:00 -
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            Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
   Originally by: Shichiro Motokana
   Originally by: Xendie shuttles should be nerfed tbfh. they are supposed to be a cheap mode of transport not a instawarping low sig run around and **** off the enemy tool.
 
 
 
  lol. awww, poor baby.
  shuttles don't need a nerf. they cant pwn you, why should you pwn them?
 
 
  Flawed logic here shuttles encourage alt scouts sitting 300km from a gate watching your every move
 
 
  And then if you know the spy is there..
 
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          Marcus TheMartin 
          Gallente Tuxedo.
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.02 18:08:00 -
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            Originally by: Gix Firebrand
   Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
   Originally by: Shichiro Motokana
   Originally by: Xendie shuttles should be nerfed tbfh. they are supposed to be a cheap mode of transport not a instawarping low sig run around and **** off the enemy tool.
 
 
 
  lol. awww, poor baby.
  shuttles don't need a nerf. they cant pwn you, why should you pwn them?
 
 
  Flawed logic here shuttles encourage alt scouts sitting 300km from a gate watching your every move
 
 
  And then if you know the spy is there..
 
 
 
  We didn't have any recon pilots with us when we were passing through  
  So we just had in interceptor approach him to make him gtfo
  Half Assed Rhymage
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          Gix Firebrand 
          Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.02 18:14:00 -
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          There are many more tactical and strategic options then that :D
 
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          Marcus TheMartin 
          Gallente Tuxedo.
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.02 18:21:00 -
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            Originally by: Gix Firebrand There are many more tactical and strategic options then that :D
 
 
 
  Well time was of the essence since there was a trap set for us in EOA-ZC 40 in local and 10 at the gates with Zeroh telling us that they like to use cloaks so it was either chase the shuttle and wait for the doom to come after us or just leave
  Half Assed Rhymage
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          Shamis Orzoz 
          Sniggerdly
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.02 18:28:00 -
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          shuttles, smaller frigs and most ceptors are indeed impossible to warp scramble on the jump in if they just click warp first. 
  We've done tests in the past with ships that had a scan resolution of 20,000. There is some module activation lag that makes it impossible. 
  Shamis
 
 
 
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          scabbsssjr 
          Gallente M'8'S
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.02 19:02:00 -
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          large bubble, huggin, that recon that gives a range bonus to scrammin. and a few titans to break its tank. ---------------------------
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          Marcus TheMartin 
          Gallente Tuxedo.
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.02 19:10:00 -
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          Edited by: Marcus TheMartin on 02/02/2007 19:06:45
   Originally by: scabbsssjr large bubble, huggin, that recon that gives a range bonus to scrammin. and a few titans to break its tank.
 
 
  Well that would work in 0.0 but what is the arazu/lachesis for?
  Half Assed Rhymage
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          SwindonBadger 
          0utbreak
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.02 19:34:00 -
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          Edited by: SwindonBadger on 02/02/2007 19:33:34 pritty hard to catch a guy in his sec but 0.0 its not so hard, a few rigged inties and dictors and a bit of cunning,
   wish u could insta collect all the times u have some guy spout in local "its no use ect trying to get my shuttle"... then oh dear I dint realse an inty doing 27kps closes 150k in just over 6 secs :)
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   if ur fast and they are about 100k off just orbit at that range for a while get them talking and then strike,
   if ur in a dictor, find a system with 200 au warp and 2 gates. See local go up and its not ur gate , drop a buble and jump out imediatly. Wait a little and jump in, hopefully they are in warp to the gate, by this time the buble will go down but they will land 15 k off and here's the sweet part, u get to buble again right on top of them :) 2 vollys later no shuttle.
   if a shuttle arrives at a sniper distance and warps when u get close bm the spot and drop a can, get ur mates to check its over 150 k so u can warp to it or go ferther and and have drop can thats over the distance and rember by how much. Shuttle comes in let him get comfy then warp to bm and pop, dictor helps loads  
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          Marcus TheMartin 
          Gallente Tuxedo.
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.02 19:35:00 -
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          I got the 1000th view on this thread   
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          Leto Twin 
          Amarr Ministry of War
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.02 20:28:00 -
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          Edited by: Leto Twin on 02/02/2007 20:25:04
   Originally by: Plight Sinake Long standing argument between me and a few people.... but can you answer this question.....
  Can shuttles be caught without a bubble and if the pilot has 1/2 a brain???
  Yeah i can catch the odd one or 2 but nowhere near all.... 
  Comments please :)
 
 
  Nope. = (.
  EDIT: Changed the link to make it easier to find my point.
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