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Darkblad
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Posted - 2016.02.16 21:48:30 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Being able to trade skillpoints and freely respec your character changes very little. What it does is allow people to keep their gameplay fresh and try new things, or gives new players a leg up to be able to try new things faster if they choose to do so. That's why the suggestions to allow readjustment of skill points on the same character (using extractors and then inject them back into the same character w/o DR or other ways that would allow CCP to get some money) got added right during the discussion of the first devblog! Now I see.
Or rather not.
Instead, you continue to proclaim this all is for the new players (three times alone in the two flight academy videos). Who would dare to question any strategy that will help eve to attract more player (once again). But I still wonder how many new players actually used that feature - or actually know how to make use of the Tempest that's in the current banner ad for skilljection from your tutorial videos and other sources for NPE guidance.
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Darkblad
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Posted - 2016.02.16 22:16:15 -
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Taking a look at the order of appearance of products on the ccpgames site and drawing conclusions is just tinfoil
I would assume. However, a very intriguing one.
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Darkblad
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Posted - 2016.02.16 22:56:45 -
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Also:
I have less trouble with skill trading on its own compared to the issues I experience with the way that ccp (employess) attempt to make this a wonderful new feature (singalong - for the new players - singalong)
The accumulated [...] collected in the pile of :reasons: given is what bugs me the most. And what I think hurt not only the company (crowd control productions) but also the game itself. And probably also the community.
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Darkblad
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Posted - 2016.02.18 07:22:07 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Mag's wrote:his reasons for opposal [...] I respect what you're saying, and can see your angle, I just can't agree with it. This sort of disagreement appears to apply to nearly all proposals made for a different way that skill trading should be implemented (the delays on "inject all axisting skill points" I menationed earlier and "respect you skills and respec your character's skill points, i.e. no DR if one would extract his own character's SP and inject them back in right after.
CCP asking for feedback on the first blog, the phrasing of "how important that feedback" will be (during the eve vegas keynote) and the actual changes done to this, as shown in the second blog suggest:
I see your points (on hundreds of pages) and I'm happy you stated them after I asked you to do right that.
But I won't change anything - except the impact of DR on the 50M and 80M brackets.
Being a player of a non english language I just feel like it's the end of September 2014 again. But that's another yet for some a still (de)pressing matter.
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Darkblad
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Posted - 2016.02.18 09:34:22 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Seriously, now you speak to the players about this. After 3 months of silence and not addressing a single concern of the playerbase in the two other threads! There are a lot more concerns and they had all nothing to do with p2w. But for some reason you published the devblog and then went completely dark on the issue. It was pretty obvious that you don't care what people have to say.
To come here now and tell us we should not worry because it's not p2w is like the other discussions did not even happen, it's like you did not pay attention at all and have no clue about the arguments on both sides. Do we really need to start over with a new threads and repeat all the same stuff we said in the couple of months since the initial devblog? Or can you simply say here and now that CCP does not care anyway, never intended this to be a discussion and that we actually all just waste our free time? Right now is the perfect time.
The feature is active.
A precedence was set.
"It's too late"
We had the chance to state our opinion and thoughts and I'm sure that all of those were - singalong - read, discussed internally and considered.
All is fine and dandy, right?
But hey, at least CCP Falcon talks to us on this matter now. That's more to be expected than on other changes that caused thoughtful feedback (I wonder if and when CCP Explorer uses the opportunity to point to this thread on twitter if someone wishes to discuss the matter).
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Darkblad
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Posted - 2016.02.20 12:27:18 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:There's a simple flaw with any "Pay To Win" argument against skill trading.
A pilot who knows what they're doing with a Rifter and a 2 skillpoints can end the world for a clueless player with 300 million skillpoints. Put the average driver in an F1 car and they're not going to have the first idea of how to drive it, despite having a driver's license.
Get from T1 Projectile turrets to Small Autocannon Specialization level 4 and the prereq. to 5
23 days of training or 2 Injectors (for a bit less than a million additional SP)
Does the character that chose the path of training the skills passively know anything better?
The Skilljector can requip and use advanced turrets and ammo.
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Darkblad
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Posted - 2016.02.20 15:38:40 -
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Durgis Athonille wrote:The "Skilljectors" as you call them can fit the ship and fly it in battle. They can test the fit and have fun while the other players wait behind an arbitrary time gate because they have no choice and they cannot accelerate their training.
No choice is not fun. So those that can afford the ISK for the Injectors have more fun? Given that this feature is designed for new players, it's very unlikely that they will have collected the ISK on other ways than buying PLEX for real money. That'd mean that new players that have more real money to spend are at an advantage.
Players with less real money to spend have to wait.
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Darkblad
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Posted - 2016.02.21 16:30:08 -
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Moving existing skillpoints on the same/to another character? Proposed by players before?
Just
a few
of those
(only three of the older threads on this forum, no oldforums.eo)
And one now in game
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