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Maggeridon Thoraz
Selectus Pravus Lupus Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2011.12.16 00:55:00 -
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everytime i find a guristas watch i do them, after crucible none has so far escalated. anyone after crucible had escaltions with that one ? |
Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.16 01:54:00 -
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Maggeridon Thoraz wrote:everytime i find a guristas watch i do them, after crucible none has so far escalated. anyone after crucible had escaltions with that one ?
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Brynhilda
Massive PVPness EntroPraetorian Aegis
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Posted - 2011.12.16 02:00:00 -
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A Highsec site doesn't escalate!?
EXPLORATION IS BROKEN!!! How may I drug you with drugs? |
Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.16 02:12:00 -
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Brynhilda wrote:A Highsec site doesn't escalate!?
EXPLORATION IS BROKEN!!!
Well I mean if it doesnt escalate every time, then yeah. |
Maggeridon Thoraz
Selectus Pravus Lupus Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2011.12.16 02:15:00 -
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Emperor Salazar wrote:Brynhilda wrote:A Highsec site doesn't escalate!?
EXPLORATION IS BROKEN!!! Well I mean if it doesnt escalate every time, then yeah.
well , i am not saying this. i just ask if some had an escaltion after crucible yet. |
Chung Ju-yung
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2011.12.16 02:19:00 -
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Statistics. How do they work? |
Mnemosyne Gloob
Teshnology Inc. Stealth Wear Inc.
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Posted - 2011.12.16 02:26:00 -
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I had an expedition, it was not from a watch tho. |
Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.16 02:32:00 -
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Chung Ju-yung wrote:Statistics. How do they work?
I don't think they do. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2011.12.16 13:09:00 -
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IT'S A IT'S A SERIES OF TUBES
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki |
Powie XIII
Pilipino Corp ROMANIAN-LEGION
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Posted - 2011.12.16 13:18:00 -
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Maggeridon Thoraz wrote:everytime i find a guristas watch i do them, after crucible none has so far escalated. anyone after crucible had escaltions with that one ?
Right click > Self Destruct.
With that you are assured of an escalation.
Beware there is a 10% chance of a 50/50. GÇ£They see me trollin', they hatin'GÇ¥ |
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Cypher Decypher
Elite United Hard Moose Moose Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.16 14:27:00 -
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Powie XIII wrote:Maggeridon Thoraz wrote:everytime i find a guristas watch i do them, after crucible none has so far escalated. anyone after crucible had escaltions with that one ? Right click > Self Destruct. With that you are assured of an escalation. Beware there is a 10% chance of a 50/50.
and 48.6% of statistics are made up on the spot. |
Maggeridon Thoraz
Selectus Pravus Lupus Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2011.12.16 16:39:00 -
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ok , i just see just trolls and kiddie answers besides one. none of the readers have yet comfirmed to have an escalation. kids go back to your kindergarden. |
Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.16 16:42:00 -
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Maggeridon Thoraz wrote:ok , i just see just trolls and kiddie answers besides one. none of the readers have yet comfirmed to have an escalation. kids go back to your kindergarden.
haha he called us kids guys! hes so clever!
also an idiot. How many watches you done bro? 5 and no escalation? I think my longest run with those and no escalation was about 16.
Dry spells are a part of exploration. You are entitled to nothing. If you want guaranteed results, go back to mission running (but please continue posting horribly, its entertaining). |
Melina Lin
Universal Frog
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Posted - 2011.12.17 00:55:00 -
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[tinfoil]They haven't fixed the bug with removal of expired expeds yet.[/tinfoil] |
1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.17 01:41:00 -
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Come on bro you ask a stupid question you get stupid responses, you want real answers ask a real question, and there is a real way to ask your question, but your stupid question doesn't get real answers, so get real and don't be so stupid 5 Senses In A Person... 4 Seasons In A Year... 3 Colors In A Stoplight... 2 Poles On The Earth... ONLY 1-UP MUSHROOM!!!-á If You Like My Sig, Like Me! |
Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.17 03:32:00 -
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1-Up Mushroom wrote:Come on bro you ask a stupid question you get stupid responses, you want real answers ask a real question, and there is a real way to ask your question, but your stupid question doesn't get real answers, so get real and don't be so stupid
I like this post. |
5nipe
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.17 09:10:00 -
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@ OP
Yes, Guristas Watch works as intended. I have had dozen escalation in last week from aprox 25 Watches I found. 2 escalations ended up in low sec.
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St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.18 13:06:00 -
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I've done 5x Gurista's Watch since Fri 16th, 1x escalation, escalated all the way to the end and dropped Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster. vOv |
Maggeridon Thoraz
Selectus Pravus Lupus Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2011.12.18 13:07:00 -
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St Mio wrote:I've done 5x Gurista's Watch since Fri 16th, 1x escalation, escalated all the way to the end and dropped Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster. vOv nice one. gz |
Sir Livingston
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.18 21:19:00 -
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Maggeridon Thoraz wrote:everytime i find a guristas watch i do them, after crucible none has so far escalated. anyone after crucible had escaltions with that one ?
I completed a Guristas Watch last week. It escalated all the way to the end.
Explorer's Log an ongoing video log chronicling my adventures as an explorer of New Eden Click to watch: http://www.youtube.com/user/JonnyPew?feature=mhee |
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Sphynix
Mince and Tatties
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Posted - 2011.12.18 21:52:00 -
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Chung Ju-yung wrote:Statistics. How do they work?
80% of statistics are made up on the spot. It is easy to prove too! |
Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.18 22:42:00 -
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Sphynix wrote:Chung Ju-yung wrote:Statistics. How do they work? 80% of statistics are made up on the spot. It is easy to prove too!
Everyone knows its only 70%. Get your facts right. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.18 23:15:00 -
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1-Up Mushroom wrote:Come on bro you ask a stupid question you get stupid responses, you want real answers ask a real question, and there is a real way to ask your question, but your stupid question doesn't get real answers, so get real and don't be so stupid
Learn to read.
His question is a simple one pertaining to the Guristas Watch site.
Quote:Anyone after crucible had escalations with that one ?
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Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.18 23:32:00 -
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His question is stupid and rather ignorant, as its derived from a conclusion drawn after anecdotal observations that he coincidentally made after a patch. |
Nicholas Tong
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.19 00:28:00 -
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I'm also posting in a cool and edgy way and bumping this thread like everybody else. |
Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.19 02:45:00 -
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Nicholas Tong wrote:I'm also posting in a cool and edgy way and bumping this thread like everybody else.
Easily the best post in this thread. You should join test or goons.
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Yvella
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2011.12.19 15:23:00 -
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Emperor Salazar wrote:Nicholas Tong wrote:I'm also posting in a cool and edgy way and bumping this thread like everybody else. Easily the best post in this thread. You should join test or goons.
I bet you work in law, or some other "profession" that pretends it understands things (lol economics). Either that or you are just a massive troll who would love for people to stop stealing your high sec plexes.
OP posted a valid hypothesis lol :CCP: break something with a patch I never.... and asked the community for shared data as to understand something chanced based highest possible sample size is best, and this is an MMORPG after all |
Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.19 15:46:00 -
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Yvella wrote:Emperor Salazar wrote:Nicholas Tong wrote:I'm also posting in a cool and edgy way and bumping this thread like everybody else. Easily the best post in this thread. You should join test or goons. I bet you work in law, or some other "profession" that pretends it understands things (lol economics). Either that or you are just a massive troll who would love for people to stop stealing your high sec plexes. OP posted a valid hypothesis lol :CCP: break something with a patch I never.... and asked the community for shared data as to understand something chanced based highest possible sample size is best, and this is an MMORPG after all
Im actually in engineering and I haven't farmed high sec in a while (I miss it sometimes)....trolololol nice assumptions though. Also, why you hate lawyers and economists? And....now I know this is hard, but lets try to be intelligent for a second. If I wanted to get him to stop stealing my high sec plexes....don't you think I'd agree with him that something is broken and thus they are not worth doing? Logic is hard, I know.
As for his hypothesis....it wasn't valid...at all. It comes up after every patch because people do not have a basic understanding of statistics. He hypothesized that something was wrong because "everytime i find a guristas watch i do them, after crucible none has so far escalated." His hypothesis is derived from an unknown sample size (likely an inconsequential amount) and the fact that any sort of perceived error must have been caused by a patch. Instead of accepting that escalations are rare for a reason he came to the forums to tell us about his **** poor data. |
Yvella
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2011.12.19 16:33:00 -
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Emperor Salazar wrote:Yvella wrote:Emperor Salazar wrote:Nicholas Tong wrote:I'm also posting in a cool and edgy way and bumping this thread like everybody else. Easily the best post in this thread. You should join test or goons. I bet you work in law, or some other "profession" that pretends it understands things (lol economics). Either that or you are just a massive troll who would love for people to stop stealing your high sec plexes. OP posted a valid hypothesis lol :CCP: break something with a patch I never.... and asked the community for shared data as to understand something chanced based highest possible sample size is best, and this is an MMORPG after all Im actually in engineering and I haven't farmed high sec in a while (I miss it sometimes)....trolololol nice assumptions though. Also, why you hate lawyers and economists? And....now I know this is hard, but lets try to be intelligent for a second. If I wanted to get him to stop stealing my high sec plexes....don't you think I'd agree with him that something is broken and thus they are not worth doing? Logic is hard, I know. As for his hypothesis....it wasn't valid...at all. It comes up after every patch because people do not have a basic understanding of statistics. He hypothesized that something was wrong because "everytime i find a guristas watch i do them, after crucible none has so far escalated." His hypothesis is derived from an unknown sample size (likely an inconsequential amount) and the fact that any sort of perceived error must have been caused by a patch. Instead of accepting that escalations are rare for a reason he came to the forums to tell us about his **** poor data.
I think his hypothesis was based not just on his **** poor data, but an externality to the numbers I.E. a patch.
I thought the level of trolling was a bit excessive for his question |
Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.19 16:37:00 -
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Plenty of logical explanations to go with the delightful posting you all refer to as trolling. I don't see the problem. |
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OllieNorth
Recidivists Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.12.19 16:39:00 -
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His questions got so much trolling because every patch there are exactly eleventy billion threads exactly like this with people who have run 4 of [site x] and not gotten a single [desired outcome y]. All we are asking is for people to either a) read the forums before posting or b) get a significant sample size first. |
Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.19 16:42:00 -
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OllieNorth wrote:His questions got so much trolling because every patch there are exactly eleventy billion threads exactly like this with people who have run 4 of [site x] and not gotten a single [desired outcome y]. All we are asking is for people to either a) read the forums before posting or b) get a significant sample size first.
This. I believe the same thing happens with invention every expansion/patch as well. I know it did this time. |
OllieNorth
Recidivists Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.12.19 16:46:00 -
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You know Salazar, it's getting to the point where I think we are just talking to ourselves on this in every thread. |
Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.19 16:47:00 -
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Well in that case...
what'd you have for breakfast today? I had time before work to make bacon and french toast. It was pretty delicious. |
Scortched Merc
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.19 16:53:00 -
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Everyone just need to stop exploring... there is nothing to find.
I'll tell you what, go back to ratting, mission whoring... whatever you want, hell try planet interaction, gawd knows CCP would love to hear if any one actually does that stuff. I'll stop what I'm doing and start probing, I will let you know in if I happen to find anything of value, its doubtful, but I know you guys want to go make your iskie.
I know I'm taking the hit here, haveing to probe to find nothing out there, but if you feel sad for me or anything shoot me some isk to make yourself happier.
E .-+ ` ' / -+. F Your tears fuel my internet spaceship. |
OllieNorth
Recidivists Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.12.19 16:55:00 -
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Not me, running late this morning, so just some cereal and a coffee on the way in.
(Thread lock in 3 ... 2... ) |
Zenedia
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.19 19:16:00 -
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Another patch another exploration is broken thread. Why is there even an option to search the forums anymore? |
Amelia Shortcake
The Right Hand of Beadle
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Posted - 2011.12.19 20:21:00 -
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ffs |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.20 03:32:00 -
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Dang, they be coming out of the woodwork now. Someone must have sounded the Troll Horn in 'General Discussion' and pointed to 'Missions and Complexes'.
OllieNorth wrote: All we are asking is for people to either a) read the forums before posting or b) get a significant sample size first.
I read the forums. CCP doesn't like to and rarely ever posts any statements saying their latest patch has broken various things in the game. Instead they just keep doing a bunch of little 'Updates' every couple of days for about 2 weeks until eventually everything is moderately close to being normal again.
So please tell us your version of what a significant sample size should be? |
Fireflyb1
Haven Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.12.20 03:43:00 -
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Emperor Salazar wrote:Maggeridon Thoraz wrote:everytime i find a guristas watch i do them, after crucible none has so far escalated. anyone after crucible had escaltions with that one ? notsureifserious.jpg
Funny how you always seem to be the first to post on threads like these . |
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Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
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Posted - 2011.12.20 04:49:00 -
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Statistically-meaningful sample-size. Look it up, pls, OP, kthxbai.
I did a Guri-Watch just a few days ago, and the escalation went all the way...but I only got th Pithii A-Type Small Shield-Transporter (/me haz sadface)...
I A/F/K cloak in Jita. Does that count? |
Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.20 13:17:00 -
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Fireflyb1 wrote:Emperor Salazar wrote:Maggeridon Thoraz wrote:everytime i find a guristas watch i do them, after crucible none has so far escalated. anyone after crucible had escaltions with that one ? notsureifserious.jpg Funny how you always seem to be the first to post on threads like these .
I don't sleep. I am always on duty. |
Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.20 13:26:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Dang, they be coming out of the woodwork now. Someone must have sounded the Troll Horn in 'General Discussion' and pointed to 'Missions and Complexes'.
You do realize that by posting like this, you have essentially become one right? Congrats bro, you have come down to our level.
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I read the forums. CCP doesn't like to and rarely ever posts any statements saying their latest patch has broken various things in the game. Instead they just keep doing a bunch of little 'Updates' every couple of days for about 2 weeks until eventually everything is moderately close to being normal again.
In the last 2.5 years that I have been exploring, exploration has been broken once (the site spawning bug a few months ago). Every patch we get a few people that don't understand how rarity works, do a couple sites, get a bad streak (we all do) but because its right after a patch, they connect the two rather than continue exploring to break their streak. We see the same thing with invention. Every patch. You white knighting people like this simply fuels the ignorance.
Quote:So please tell us your version of what a significant sample size should be?
Here, be educated. Consider taking a class.
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