Uke
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.03.06 00:46:46 -
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Inquisitor Tyr wrote:Removing the watch list notifications without an effective replacement system will reduce conflict and content. Consequences will be increased effectiveness of AFK cloaky campers, and fewer junior FCs stepping into larger FC roles.
AFK cloaky campers can be mitigated through a bit of research into who they represent. Hotdropers leave a trail of killmails that leads back to their bridging pilots. When watchlisted, you can accurately assess if the neutral pilot sitting in system for the past week is asleep. Removing the watch list notification will amplify AFK Cloaking, which is widely considered one of the most broken mechanics in the game.
Alliance level FCs utilize a large intel network to make them effective in large scale engagements. Eg: He/She will have scout alts watching the enemy staging systems and often have spys on the other side.
Aspiring junior and mid level FCs rarely have access to the same info. Some of this is due to the necessity of keeping your FC channels small for op-sec (and spam comment reduction). But with a bit of research, and trial by fire, junior FCs can eventually find out who the hostile titan pilot may be.
In sum, removing this bit of intel further compunds the problems that new FCs face as they try to build confidence in their abilities not just to themselves but, more importantly, to the people who may attend their fleet.
Reduced confidence in an FC leads to lower participation on his fleets. If your junior FC is constantly getting dropped on and dunked, people will stop going on his fleets. The spin off effect is that people will only want to attend fleets with their Main Alliance FC. Fewer junior FCs will have the chance to learn and grow into senior positions in circumstances where their enemy uses capitals regularly. Fewer FCs will lead to less fleets, more stand downs, more blue balled fleets, and less content overall.
I dont disagree that it would make some sense to remove the metagame aspect of the watch list; however, has an effective in game system been designed and implemented to replace this lost functionality ?
Now that the online-status of the entire enemy super fleet isn't available at any time, no one will use supers anymore, capital combat in eve will grind to a halt. Everyone sell all your caps quick. Eve is dying.
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You don't have to use your supers/caps if you don't want to, we still will.
The ability to see the online-status of anyone you want, or not, is inherently fair for us all.
Removing the watch-list brings us back to a point of neutrality. Having intel about the online-status of individuals is leveraged however, from larger groups against the smaller.
The the usefulness of watch-list information is proportional to the disparity in numbers of the hunted vs the hunter.
If a 500 man alliance is hunting an individual super. Tell me who's watch-list contains more valuable information.
It all comes down to scouting, as it should.
I'm kind of taken-aback by all the support for the watch-list.
Everyone keeping their caps logged off until the opportune moment, having to 'watch-list' swathes of people so you know when they've logged their characters in. Bleh, just a garbage intel tool. I generally don't even care about immersion but it's just so blatant a breaking of it that it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It's just a crap mechanic whose existence is completely unnecessary.
Really, the intel provided by the watch-list benefits larger groups over the smaller more than anything. Which is why it's not entirely surprising to see a fair amount of guys from the larger groups upset about it's removal. Imagine the difficulty of keeping track, or even hunting, individual supers all over the galaxy when you have to scout each one individually as opposed to opening your People & Places.
Quote:Make sure to log in some more alt accounts and spam the thread to misrepresent the consensus.
Doesn't say a lot for your credibility when you need to make unsubstantiated accusations of your opposition in an attempt to undermine them, while appropriating "consensus" as if you spoke for everyone else who has posted in this thread.
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