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erg cz
Eleutherian Guard Villore Accords
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Posted - 2016.02.24 13:20:03 -
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I wonder if there was a time, when someone from CCP explained, why we do not have pirate faction battlecruisers? I do not count Gnosis. I mean - some serios ships, that would utilise bonuses from 2 races. Actually, there is no pirate destroyers too. But at least we have T3 destroyers.
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Forum Toon
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.02.24 13:22:21 -
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you have T3 battlecruisers and command ships. |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
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Posted - 2016.02.24 13:53:20 -
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Forum Toon wrote:you have T3 battlecruisers and command ships.
you have t2 battleships and black ops but still have pirate battleships
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
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Posted - 2016.02.24 14:13:50 -
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Why there should be pirate battlecruiser ?
Akrasjel Lanate
Founder and CEO of Naquatech Conglomerate
Executor of Naquatech Syndicate
Citizen of Solitude
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Kiddoomer
Deep Space Exploitation Federal United Battalion of Armed Renegades
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Posted - 2016.02.24 14:18:26 -
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Maybe because the price/performance could be too good for big entities if these ships were in swarm.
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Pix Severus
Empty You
3199
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Posted - 2016.02.24 14:34:53 -
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There would be some balance issues to contend with, but I see no reason why it couldn't go ahead in the future.
My lord.
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Sequester Risalo
Semiki Minerals and Missiles Company Ltd.
185
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Posted - 2016.02.24 14:50:15 -
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Maybe they wish to keep some option for future releases. On the other hand there already are too many ships in the universe for my taste. Every new ship devalues an existing one, tactical destroyers and logistics frigates come to mind as recent additions. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2016.02.24 15:04:49 -
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erg cz wrote:I wonder if there was a time, when someone from CCP explained, why we do not have pirate faction battlecruisers? I do not count Gnosis. I mean - some serios ships, that would utilise bonuses from 2 races. Actually, there is no pirate destroyers too. But at least we have T3 destroyers.
When pirate ships were conceived and then created there were no racial BC skills in the game. CCP used a combo of racial ship skills as the unlock for these ships and couldn't do that with battle cruisers. The skill was previously 'Battlecruiser' and not '(insert racial title here) Battlecruiser' as it is now.
Same with destroyers, by the way. It used to be a generic and not race specific skill.
I've been hoping that we'd see a pirate BC ever since they made the change, but alas, it seems CCP has moved past the whole pirate ship thing..
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Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Fidelas Constans
2975
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Posted - 2016.02.24 15:08:55 -
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I'm just trying imagine what kind of monster sits between the orthrus/barghest and the cynabal/machariel.
Oh man, makes me loins tender just thinking about it.
Or what kind of cancerous plagues await is in a pirate destroyer class. |
Persephone Alleile
Nocx Initiative
105
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Posted - 2016.02.24 15:27:23 -
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Mmm thinking about a nice Serpentis Brutix with web bonuses and increased blaster falloff. |
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Dan Seavey Allier
Seavy Acquisitions
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Posted - 2016.02.24 18:51:21 -
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erg cz wrote:I wonder if there was a time, when someone from CCP explained, why we do not have pirate faction battlecruisers? I do not count Gnosis. I mean - some serios ships......
S.O.C would like you to take your ungrateful ass for a short walk out the air lock.
Serious ship indeed.
Dan
Honey Never Sleeps.
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Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1053
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Posted - 2016.02.24 19:34:31 -
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Forum Toon wrote:you have T3 battlecruisers and command ships.
Since when was my Tengu a battlecruiser?
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
2625
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Posted - 2016.02.24 19:41:41 -
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Rowells wrote:I'm just trying imagine what kind of monster sits between the orthrus/barghest and the cynabal/machariel.
Oh man, makes me loins tender just thinking about it.
Or what kind of cancerous plagues await is in a pirate destroyer class.
Think of a worm, but with more drones, more speed and tracking on those drone to give the usualy projection of destroyer and more missile damage because well, it has to be more. Probably more tank too.
Or replace Worm with Gila and destroyer with battlecruiser. |
Xylem Viliana
Protomonolithic
360
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Posted - 2016.02.24 20:20:54 -
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Yang Aurilen wrote:Forum Toon wrote:you have T3 battlecruisers and command ships. Since when was my Tengu a battlecruiser?
tier 3 not tech 3 |
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
451
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Posted - 2016.02.24 23:31:39 -
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Yang Aurilen wrote:Since when was my Tengu a battlecruiser? When they were first mooted at FanFest they were described as such... And not only their general capabilities but their links also suggest such a designation. They make a lot more sense from a balance perspective if you think of them as BCs rather than extra-powerful Cerberus for example. |
Ibutho Inkosi
Irubo Kovu
193
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Posted - 2016.02.25 05:35:43 -
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There's no fondue on this table.
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Pryce Caesar
Cloak and Daggers Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2016.02.25 05:55:37 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:erg cz wrote:I wonder if there was a time, when someone from CCP explained, why we do not have pirate faction battlecruisers? I do not count Gnosis. I mean - some serios ships, that would utilise bonuses from 2 races. Actually, there is no pirate destroyers too. But at least we have T3 destroyers. When pirate ships were conceived and then created there were no racial BC skills in the game. CCP used a combo of racial ship skills as the unlock for these ships and couldn't do that with battle cruisers. The skill was previously 'Battlecruiser' and not '(insert racial title here) Battlecruiser' as it is now. Same with destroyers, by the way. It used to be a generic and not race specific skill. I've been hoping that we'd see a pirate BC ever since they made the change, but alas, it seems CCP has moved past the whole pirate ship thing.. Mr Epeen
I heard along the grape vine at one point that there may be plans to make the Drifters ships available to players in the future. I do not recall where I heard this, but it definitely perked my interest, because the first time I saw a Drifter battleship I thought: "I want one."
There are plans to update the PvE too, so who is to say they won't update available faction ships? |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
3504
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Posted - 2016.02.25 07:04:09 -
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faction BCs are actually fairly new, give it time
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Violet Crumble
Funtime Factory
790
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Posted - 2016.02.25 08:01:10 -
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Because before the BC rebalance, even pirates thought they were ****.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33415
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Posted - 2016.02.25 11:18:47 -
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I'm up for anything new based on the Cyclone hull. And still raw about the Sleipnir model change.
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PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
327
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Posted - 2016.02.25 12:08:31 -
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or 1 more BC T2.
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Wienna Frost
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.02.25 12:47:55 -
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I want a Serpentis BC too. With bonus to hybrids and webs and stuff |
Varathius
The Tuskers The Tuskers Co.
216
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Posted - 2016.02.25 13:32:21 -
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erg cz wrote:I wonder if there was a time, when someone from CCP explained, why we do not have pirate faction battlecruisers? I do not count Gnosis. I mean - some serios ships, that would utilise bonuses from 2 races. Actually, there is no pirate destroyers too. But at least we have T3 destroyers.
BCs were nerfed, thus the faction BCs took over the old role of the nerfed BCs, and probably if pirate BCs will be introduced, then the original BCs will be nerfed again, then the faction BCs will be nerfed to what the regular BCs are now, thus the Pirate BCs will take over the role of the current faction BCs... this will most likely be CCPs approach if pirate BCs would be implemented.
But before that happens, I am still waiting for the free Concord battleship for 10+ years loyal members ! :) |
Divine Entervention
Hunters Elite Krab Republic
826
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Posted - 2016.02.26 04:35:25 -
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Pirates are smart enough to know battlecruisers aren't worth it |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
3006
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Posted - 2016.02.26 05:21:39 -
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Varathius wrote: BCs were nerfed, thus the faction BCs took over the old role of the nerfed BCs, and probably if pirate BCs will be introduced, then the original BCs will be nerfed again, then the faction BCs will be nerfed to what the regular BCs are now, thus the Pirate BCs will take over the role of the current faction BCs... this will most likely be CCPs approach if pirate BCs would be implemented.
But before that happens, I am still waiting for the free Concord battleship for 10+ years loyal members ! :)
That's not quite accurate. That only happened with the Cane, which was far better than all the other BC's at the time, some of the other BC's actually got a significant buff (& still weren't as popular)
Anyway, the better approach for CCP would be to move T3 Cruisers to T3 Battlecruisers, which would help resolve some of their issues, and make them more like the Tactical modes with their bonuses rather than the infinite kitset where people only use 2 or 3 fits anyway.
Then you get the 'inbetween' sizes being T3's, and the 'standard' sizes being the ones that get the pirate options. |
Zander Kumamato
The Chaos Void
45
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Posted - 2016.02.26 06:52:56 -
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There should be hundreds of more types of ships in the game.
I for one support pirate all the types of ships and things and other such variants. |
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