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Deathbarrage	Posted - 2007.02.05 17:02:00 - [31] Originally by: LUKEC Edited by: LUKEC on 05/02/2007 16:26:09 Edited by: LUKEC on 05/02/2007 16:25:04 Originally by: Deathbarrage Originally by: LUKEC Edited by: LUKEC on 05/02/2007 16:12:42 Originally by: Deathbarrage Originally by: Karasu Kaizoku Edited by: Karasu Kaizoku on 05/02/2007 15:43:29 Friend of mine in a night hawk can tank a raw DPS around 1600 and once you go over that you will slowly start to kill him off. So a Drake would not be able to relaly break that tank unless it had anti ship Heavy Missiles lot's of BCS's and implants + rigs, then you might have a chance at putting that much out. By then you will have spent like a billion anyway.* plz show me a NH setup tanking 1600dps It's not problem really, unless you are nosfed. That's with active tank: 6x dg heavy gist XL xtpe, pith b-type amp, 2x dg invul, em hardener(61%+) 3x dg bcu, 2x ts pdu(get officer for perma tank) 2x cap size rigs Won't really run perma, but it can run on auto near 5minutes from full cap. That will tank 1.6k dps without crystal implants. (resists are all above 81%, without gang mods) Wtf I actually fit monster tank of BS size on BC with what used to be biggest weapon. Shield tank isn't overpowered. With passive tank, it might be doable: 3x L extenders, 2x dg invul 5x spr em rig, purger I'll do some math(not sure tbh)... after some number crunching... peak 168hp/s without gang. Maybe with resistance gang module (unsure on resists, if you get them over 87% it should be enough) that active tank is about 1200 dps tanked Is it? 950shield @ 3.3s ? (and 1 heavy nosf will ruin your day) Ups i forgot about vulture. For solo tank you need crystals, though. how 3.3sec?
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.02.05 17:21:00 - [32] Edited by: LUKEC on 05/02/2007 17:17:59 Originally by: Deathbarrage how 3.3sec? gang modules with not so perfect skills? With perfect gang skills it would be just below 3.2s -------- .....
Crellion Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.05 17:27:00 - [33] You read these threads and expect drakes to be unkillable 1v1 yet the majority of the Drakes I see are pretty larmless and go down without too much fuss... not sure what the disparity is... Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim.
Deathbarrage	Posted - 2007.02.05 17:29:00 - [34] Originally by: Crellion You read these threads and expect drakes to be unkillable 1v1 yet the majority of the Drakes I see are pretty larmless and go down without too much fuss... not sure what the disparity is... cuz those are pve fits, pvp it's useless to have a 1000 DPS tank first of all you'll get killed anyway any gang should have over 1000 DPS 2nd of all what's the point when anyone can get away from your 75 dps
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.02.05 17:47:00 - [35] Edited by: LUKEC on 05/02/2007 17:45:25 Originally by: Crellion You read these threads and expect drakes to be unkillable 1v1 yet the majority of the Drakes I see are pretty larmless and go down without too much fuss... not sure what the disparity is... Because if you look back, all these number crunching included perfect skills, perfect setups etc. Truth is usually miles away. Most drakes you met are nubs(2-3month old chars) and easy prey. More skilled know that with caldari you can align all the time and warp to ss as soon as something non-blue comes in local. Or they travel with craptastic setups. I belive E-R ran into proper drake in delve and could not kill it in like 10 minutes. And yeah, I agree with deathbarrage, it's quite useless ship with 75dps and 1000dps tank. It can pop intys in 1 volley if they are not iStab crow and use ends here. That's why i use raven for pvp(it's also much cheaper but way stronger). -------- .....
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.02.05 17:47:00 - [36] Edited by: LUKEC on 05/02/2007 17:45:25 Originally by: Crellion You read these threads and expect drakes to be unkillable 1v1 yet the majority of the Drakes I see are pretty larmless and go down without too much fuss... not sure what the disparity is... Because if you look back, all these number crunching included perfect skills, perfect setups etc. Truth is usually miles away. Most drakes you met are nubs(2-3month old chars) and easy prey. More skilled know that with caldari you can align all the time and warp to ss as soon as something non-blue comes in local. Or they travel with craptastic setups. I belive E-R ran into proper drake in delve and could not kill it in like 10 minutes. And yeah, I agree with deathbarrage, it's quite useless ship with 75dps and 1000dps tank. It can pop intys in 1 volley if they are not iStab crow and use ends here. That's why i use raven for pvp(it's also much cheaper but way stronger). -------- .....
J Valkor	Posted - 2007.02.05 18:14:00 - [37] Nighthawk is better in every way provided you put in the time and money to make it do everything it is capable of. My skills are nearly perfect and I enjoy it. If you don't want to put in the effort, stick withe Drake.
Lagkills Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2007.02.06 09:06:00 - [38] Edited by: Lagkills on 06/02/2007 09:04:45 About drake and nighthawk.. I have drake with imba resists BC lvl5, but i use Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II.s. I have 6 HAML fitted in and i think i can fit seventh if i learn my Advanced Weapon Upgrades to lvl4 or 5 (i havent even learned Advanced Weapon Upgrades to lvl1)... Drake does much better damage with 6xHeavy Assault Missile Laucher II.s than 7xHeave Missile Launcher II.s Fit: 6x HAML II, 3xLSE II, 2x Invu II, 2xPDS II, 1xSPR I, 1x DC II, 2x purge I rigs amd 1x extender rig I
J Valkor	Posted - 2007.02.06 09:40:00 - [39] Originally by: Lagkills Edited by: Lagkills on 06/02/2007 09:04:45 About drake and nighthawk.. I have drake with imba resists BC lvl5, but i use Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II.s. I have 6 HAML fitted in and i think i can fit seventh if i learn my Advanced Weapon Upgrades to lvl4 or 5 (i havent even learned Advanced Weapon Upgrades to lvl1)... Drake does much better damage with 6xHeavy Assault Missile Laucher II.s than 7xHeave Missile Launcher II.s Fit: 6x HAML II, 3xLSE II, 2x Invu II, 2xPDS II, 1xSPR I, 1x DC II, 2x purge I rigs amd 1x extender rig I How do you plan on reaching within striking distance of the target?
Lagkills Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2007.02.06 09:49:00 - [40] Originally by: J Valkor Originally by: Lagkills Edited by: Lagkills on 06/02/2007 09:04:45 About drake and nighthawk.. I have drake with imba resists BC lvl5, but i use Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II.s. I have 6 HAML fitted in and i think i can fit seventh if i learn my Advanced Weapon Upgrades to lvl4 or 5 (i havent even learned Advanced Weapon Upgrades to lvl1)... Drake does much better damage with 6xHeavy Assault Missile Laucher II.s than 7xHeave Missile Launcher II.s Fit: 6x HAML II, 3xLSE II, 2x Invu II, 2xPDS II, 1xSPR I, 1x DC II, 2x purge I rigs amd 1x extender rig I How do you plan on reaching within striking distance of the target? Gank fit... and btw in med slot is scram too fitted. And many agroes drake when they see it blinking on the gate.. That expensive drake isnt for soloing :) or if try solo then use Heavy Missile Launcher II.s
Jin Entres Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.02.06 10:48:00 - [41] Nighthawk > Drake ---
Lagkills Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2007.02.06 11:14:00 - [42] Here is my third drake setup... my new setup is that kinetic and heat hardeners off and i have 2 INVU II.s and one shield power relay replaced with Damage Control II and one rig is changed to recharge as well... I will post my imba drake screen when servers are online My Drake
Mjojjnir Caldari Lighten Your Load Industry	Posted - 2007.02.06 12:21:00 - [43] Guess you have a crystal set plugged in there to achieve the boost amount jin
Jin Entres Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.02.06 12:52:00 - [44] Originally by: Mjojjnir Guess you have a crystal set plugged in there to achieve the boost amount jin Low-grade yes. ---

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