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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.02.06 16:50:00 -
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60 days eh? hum... I guess the only thing you can kill is 2 month old newbies? |

Kryss Darkdust
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Posted - 2007.02.06 16:51:00 -
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Edited by: Kryss Darkdust on 06/02/2007 16:47:41 I think anyone who has a "friends of BOB" statement in their BIO should self destruct at random once per day and have viagra spam sent to his Eve Mail 10 times a day.
CCP .. can you get on this please?
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Inn0cent Victim
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Posted - 2007.02.06 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: Inn0cent Victim ....It is however still a change I would like to see...........thats fine, as long as you fully support player corporations being allowed to opt-out of ingame systems like war-deccing since by your argument everyone should have the playing field the way they want it..........thats just my opinion thought and as someone rightly said, im just one voice.
So in short, you have no opinion? They have a name for people like you, its TooL.
you typing in front of the mirror againnnn?
i got some pretty good names too but your mom told me not to use any of them in front of you until you were old enough to understand 
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Inn0cent Victim
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Posted - 2007.02.06 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Shameless Avenger 60 days eh? hum... I guess the only thing you can kill is 2 month old newbies?
damn ya got me....
....wait....
...no, no you didnt.
i gotta admit i like killin em tho 
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.02.06 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Inn0cent Victim
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: Inn0cent Victim ....It is however still a change I would like to see...........thats fine, as long as you fully support player corporations being allowed to opt-out of ingame systems like war-deccing since by your argument everyone should have the playing field the way they want it..........thats just my opinion thought and as someone rightly said, im just one voice.
So in short, you have no opinion? They have a name for people like you, its TooL.
you typing in front of the mirror againnnn?
i got some pretty good names too but your mom told me not to use any of them in front of you until you were old enough to understand 
How does any of what you just posted not make you a tool, TooL?
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Max Godsnottlingson
Amarr Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2007.02.06 17:27:00 -
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Yet another moronic high sec ganker trying to get more easy kills out of other players who don't wish to play their silly game. What's wrong? Not enough targets for you now in high sec Empire seeing as there are more high sec wardeckers, campers, thieves and general idiots then industrial players? This is rapidly getting out of hand and all thanks to poor players who don't want real PvP but just want their opportunities for easy player kills handed to them with no work on their part
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Agustus Caesar
Minmatar Convergent Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.06 17:39:00 -
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Um, you think that people paying $15 a month shouldn't be able to play the game the way they want why? Yes, macro miners infest npc corps, but forcing people to join player corps when they probably damn well dont want to isn't solving anything. True, macro miners would be forced into a war dec-able player corp, but whats to stop them from just shuffling the characters around to different corporations everytime a war dec comes in? I know there's no chance in hell that CCP is actually going to do this, but the idea is still retarded. You take adavantage of the $15 you spend every month your way, I'll take advantage of the $15 a month I spend my way. You don't like long time npc corpers? Tough ****, like you said its the Dev's call, and I doubt they're going to shaft npc corpers just cause some high sec pirate wrote a thread about it. ----------------------------- Temporarily retiring from 0.0, if your interested in recruiting me drop a post here |

Erim Solfara
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Posted - 2007.02.06 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Inn0cent Victim There is no argument against this
So we'll ignore role playing, factional warfare, and the awesome commiunity of hundreds a npc corp brings.
Meaning to get a large community anywhere else, you have to join an already established corp, destroying the chances of smaller corps establishing themselves?
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Ryan Scouse'UK
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Posted - 2007.02.06 17:54:00 -
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the OP is a complete & utter D******* , you have no clue to eve. & what fix & the others said .. 1 bein a CAS member.. if they choose not to join in pvp but rather go about there life in empire with concord to protect them so be it. They can always enter low sec to gank or be ganked .. You like said here in the forums just want easy kills.. why dont you go to a 0.0 corp.. & fight there instead or cant you deal with the massive loss of isk eh eh to many hard pirates for you eh ?
Post with ur Main.
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Shagrath Neptune
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Posted - 2007.02.06 17:59:00 -
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The OPer is nothing but a troll and a poor one at that.
Besides, CCP wouldn't put in any ideas thought up by some moron who uses jargon like "oh noes!!" I would hope they would take ideas from someone who actually graduated from Elementary School.
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Constantine Arcanum
IMPERIAL SENATE Pure.
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Posted - 2007.02.06 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Inn0cent Victim go into all the detail you like, logically there is 100% no reason why anybody should spend more than 2 months in a starter corp.
they are for new players see? now explain to me how someone more than 2 months old is a 'new player'?
whats that?
u cant?
didnt think so.........
get out
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Strange Guy
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Posted - 2007.02.06 18:05:00 -
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Edited by: Strange Guy on 06/02/2007 18:02:48
Originally by: Erim Solfara Why shouldn't they be allowed to? I've heard several people say that Eve is the game they play because they don't have to put up with being forced into combat with griefers and people better than themselves.
So they are staying in the npc corp so they can remain the big fish in a small pond? Seems a lot of NPC corpers are like that.
The more and more I see of this, "I don't want to PVP, EVE isn't PVP", the more I wish I could delete their accounts forever.
If you don't want PVP, play WoW or some other PVE game, EVE was ment to be a PVP game, it should have more PVP, not less just because they don't want it to!
Low sec needs a reward boost, high sec needs a reward nerf, that simple.
Risk vs reward, and right now, high sec is far safer and more rewarding than low sec, even safer if you hide out in a npc corp.
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Hellspawn01
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2007.02.06 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: Inn0cent Victim in response to the 4 page thread about putting n00b corp tax up to 30% i decided to voice my own opinion.
dont raise the tax, dont do anything, just kick players automatically out of newb corps after 60 days. Simple. No stick, no carrot, just out.
Players failing to find a player corp before the 60 days is up get moved into a new 1 man player corp named after themselves. This would be the new default corp for players leaving one player corp for another.
simple. There is no argument against this tho i fully expect someone to come up with one. I wont allow the EvE public to ruin a good idea which is why its not page 50 of a thread already full of "you just want to hurt mission runners/macros/griefers/my "playstyle" arguments.
so there it is CCP, just auto kick. problem solved. again.
a final note: for some reason the statement "hey stop trying to change my playstyle man" makes me think of hippies. Its not your playstyle ***** its the one the devs let you have so dont get all righteous about something that might change tomoro.
Post with your main. Other than that, your idea sucks.
There is no problem that needs to be sorted. Only you think its a problem which doesnt make it one.
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Mordron
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Posted - 2007.02.06 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Inn0cent Victim [1] It doesnt make me angry at all. In fact players staying in n00b corps actually 99% does not affect me.
Good now maybe you'll stop moaning about other people's choice of playing style and get on with your own. |

Hamfast
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.02.06 18:26:00 -
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First off, from what I remember, if you are "Fired" from a Player Corp, you are automatically added to an NPC corp (note, I did not say Newb Corp)
For those of us who want to limit our exposure to PvP Combat, the NPC Corps are a viable option...
In the case of a time limit, it seems to me that Eve is less based on time, but on Skills, any limit placed on the "Newb" corps should be skill point related, not time... Once a character has say 2 million SP, then perhaps... but I still disagree with the whole idea, let folks play as they wish, as long as how they play is within the Rules as set by CCP.
I would add that another trigger that I would almost agree with is no player that has pod killed another player or has a security rating of less then -1.0 should ever be allowed into an NPC Corp.
Noob in training...
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Exlegion
New Light Schism.
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Posted - 2007.02.06 18:29:00 -
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Edited by: Exlegion on 06/02/2007 18:33:54
Originally by: Strange Guy So they are staying in the npc corp so they can remain the big fish in a small pond? Seems a lot of NPC corpers are like that.
And what if they want to remain as the "big fish" in the small pond?
Originally by: Strange Guy The more and more I see of this, "I don't want to PVP, EVE isn't PVP", the more I wish I could delete their accounts forever.
I suspect there's alot of things you'd like to forcefully change about Eve to make it more like the game YOU would enjoy, nevermind what the rest of the population thinks.
Originally by: Strange Guy If you don't want PVP, play WoW or some other PVE game, EVE was ment to be a PVP game, it should have more PVP, not less just because they don't want it to!
If Eve is meant to be what you say it's meant to be then why isn't it?  The one that wants things changed here is YOU. And please stop telling people what games to play and what games they should enjoy. The world doesn't revolve around you like and not like.
Originally by: Strange Guy Low sec needs a reward boost, high sec needs a reward nerf, that simple.
Let me guess, because YOU say it's not "meant to be" what it is at the moment .
Originally by: Strange Guy Risk vs reward, and right now, high sec is far safer and more rewarding than low sec, even safer if you hide out in a npc corp.
More rewarding is it? Care to explain how so?
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Fswd
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Posted - 2007.02.06 18:47:00 -
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Its just because the griefers don't have anything they can handle to shoot at, so they are whining about the NPC corps now to deliver them defenseless targets.
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Blue Pixie
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Posted - 2007.02.06 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: Inn0cent Victim so there it is CCP, just auto kick. problem solved. again.
And exactly what "problem" are you solving... making up for your own cowardice to take a Concord hit if you're obsessed with killing someone in high sec?
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Voculus
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.02.06 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Inn0cent Victim go into all the detail you like, logically there is 100% no reason why anybody should spend more than 2 months in a starter corp.
they are for new players see? now explain to me how someone more than 2 months old is a 'new player'?
whats that?
u cant?
didnt think so.........
I thought I was being very courteous, to you, but now the gloves are off, nubcake. You're a bottom-of-the-barrel "pvper" who camps gates all day, but since you gate-humpers have camped low-sec to exctinction, you just want an easy way to declare war on whomever you like. Again, more noob-ganking to satiate your blood lust for haulers and barges.
You say there's no logical reason to remain in a starter corp? How about people who play solo who don't want to be constantly harassed by the likes of you? In any case, it doesn't matter if it's logical or not. It's their choice, not yours. I suggest you get over it and learn to move on. Or just cancel your account. _________________________________________________________
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Fswd
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Posted - 2007.02.06 19:07:00 -
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Can I have your stuff?
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Roshan longshot
Gallente Ordos Humanitas
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Posted - 2007.02.06 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Inn0cent Victim
Originally by: Banana Torres Nope. But then they can join one of the other NPC corps. So problem solved, no vets in noob corps, carebears safe in an NPC corp. Everybody happy.
An article you may like to read before replying.
what? srsly wtf are you talking about? My OP states that NOBODY but beginners should be in an NPC corp. no carebears, no vets, no pvp gods, no mission runners, no macroers, nobody.
i totally fail to see the reference to straw men, i prefer tin men as it goes.
NPC corps are where you go when you quit your player corp, or if a director or CEO gets ****ed at you...or sombody sees you posting with this alt, and boots your butt from, a major player corp.
Its also storage for those that have left and have not returned to Eve.
Here is a better solution, Make an unofficial/unreal corp for freelancers. They dont belong to any corp, but are the independents of Eve-online.
This will solve many problems...They are no longer in a NPC corp...But at the same time they cant be War dec by griefers. There problem solved....
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter pirate or mixture of them all.
[i]As read from the original box.
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Galk
Gallente Autumn Tactics All the things she said
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Posted - 2007.02.06 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: SolidDread Me, I'm staying in the noobcorp (CAS) cause it has some real good people, good chats, and I like to help the new players.
Stoped in cas for 5 months myself, exactly as you call it... hell we even used to band up to mega mine in 0.0 sometimes... (20 something haulers, 40 jumps deep.. no joke) id be back there now if i could.. all those nice people to talk to and help out I still have one of my defunct alts in the corp... the once in a blue moon i do log it for a region price check.. i allways get into friendly conversation in the channel
Ofcourse in this day and age any multiple social activity performed in a group playing from a npc corp would be a different kettle of fish.. due to the lack of abjectivity in the playerbase we have now compared to what it was back then
Sadly the reason most of these posts spring up:(
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Philo Farnsworth
Amarr Kador Development Project
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Posted - 2007.02.06 19:45:00 -
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You all don't get it.
Eve is about whatever it is my playstyle is. Anyone who doesn't conform must be nerfed.
Immediately!
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Inn0cent Victim
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Posted - 2007.02.06 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Erim Solfara Eve is the game they play because they don't have to put up with being forced into combat with griefers and people better than themselves.If CCP did this, they'd lose a massive playerbase, and the economy would crash. (Simply put, if the NPC corps lost their members, the miners (NOT MACROERS), industrialists, freighters, productionists amongst others would lose their community, and perhaps even get war decced when pirate corps have a field day deccing everybody in sight. They'd leave the game.
Your arrogance amazes me.
thank you thank you, arrogance, genius, its all the same to me.
ill have their stuff thx, all of them. Frankly i just dont care. CCP would probably lose a big part of their income if all the macroers left to be honest. Its not my position to care about CCP, you, or any of the other whiney people that have replied to this thread.
My position remains the same, boot em out, sink or swim i dont really care.
Originally by: Inn0cent Victim I wont allow the EvE public to ruin a good idea which is why its not page 50 of a thread already full of "you just want to hurt mission runners/macros/griefers/my "playstyle" arguments.
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Blue Pixie
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Posted - 2007.02.06 20:28:00 -
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Irony FTW! 
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Hyey
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Posted - 2007.02.06 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Strange Guy Edited by: Strange Guy on 06/02/2007 18:02:48
Originally by: Erim Solfara Why shouldn't they be allowed to? I've heard several people say that Eve is the game they play because they don't have to put up with being forced into combat with griefers and people better than themselves.
So they are staying in the npc corp so they can remain the big fish in a small pond? Seems a lot of NPC corpers are like that.
The more and more I see of this, "I don't want to PVP, EVE isn't PVP", the more I wish I could delete their accounts forever.
If you don't want PVP, play WoW or some other PVE game, EVE was ment to be a PVP game, it should have more PVP, not less just because they don't want it to!
Low sec needs a reward boost, high sec needs a reward nerf, that simple.
Risk vs reward, and right now, high sec is far safer and more rewarding than low sec, even safer if you hide out in a npc corp.
Yes the economy is by and by PVP driven but.. You know without all those industrialized people in EVE fueling YOUR NEED TO BLOW THINGS UP, you dont get to blow things up. If this game wasent full of people who wardec corps just because ( IE no real rational reason other than easy targets) im sure youd see many more people leave NPC corps. As it stands people stay in NPC corps for a variety of reasons, one of which is to peacefully supply YOU the ships YOU blow things up with.
Get.. over.. it. I love pvping like the next person does, but I also appreciate what the people who build my ships have to go through to actually do it. If they want to build my ships in peace.. let them, its their choice. ~~ Hyey
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Hellspawn01
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2007.02.06 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Blue Pixie Irony FTW! 
Served 
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Drako Krakin
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Posted - 2007.02.06 20:51:00 -
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Was just curious as to how it would affect a player in "unusual circumstances". I may be stretching it a little but give it a read anyway. I had a lot of time on my hands.
LetÆs say the player (named Kalli Thakinu) was day 3 of his 14 trial period and some guy that was quitting gave him 1 billion isk a bunch of ships and BPOs. Now this Kalli was really enjoying the game. Unfortunately while driving back from work on day 4 a dog runs in front of his car. He swerves and misses the dog but not the light post and he is in a tragic car accident. In a comma for 2 years and you know what? He dreams, yea dreams vivid dreams of being a capsule pilot in a vast area of space. Miracle of miracles he awakens after 2 years in that comma. So, he is weak and in hospital and gets a laptop to check out his old game. He renews his account. He remembers the password and everything, because to him it was only yesterday. Surprise! They had an expansion and it was named after him or close enough! Kalli thinks to himself that this is fate. He is destined to be a great player. But oh noes, he is back online and realizes he really does not know too many of the game mechanics and being over 60 days old now he has been booted to a one man corp and a very lonely chat box. Kalli will not be deterred, he will join a corp and they can help him. Now reality sets in as he is rejected by corp after corp with shouts of ôspyö and ôcorp thiefö. He looks out the hospital window and is think ôWhat to do? What to do?ö As he stares out the window he sees that same dog. It is looking up at his window with an ear to ear dog grin as if to say ôI wrecked that life also Kalli. It is all over but the crying.ö Maybe InnOcent Victim can tell Kalli how to get assistance. What is poor Kalli Thakinu to do?
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Ta chaina
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Posted - 2007.02.06 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Inn0cent Victim in response to the 4 page thread about putting n00b corp tax up to 30% i decided to voice my own opinion.
dont raise the tax, dont do anything, just kick players automatically out of newb corps after 60 days. Simple. No stick, no carrot, just out.
Players failing to find a player corp before the 60 days is up get moved into a new 1 man player corp named after themselves. This would be the new default corp for players leaving one player corp for another.
simple. There is no argument against this tho i fully expect someone to come up with one. I wont allow the EvE public to ruin a good idea which is why its not page 50 of a thread already full of "you just want to hurt mission runners/macros/griefers/my "playstyle" arguments.
so there it is CCP, just auto kick. problem solved. again.
a final note: for some reason the statement "hey stop trying to change my playstyle man" makes me think of hippies. Its not your playstyle ***** its the one the devs let you have so dont get all righteous about something that might change tomoro.
I read your hole post and your idea sucks so no. I wont bother telling you why it sucks because you don't care anyways so Ill just say NO.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.02.06 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Exlegion Edited by: Exlegion on 06/02/2007 16:56:24
Originally by: Crumplecorn Edited by: Crumplecorn on 06/02/2007 16:18:08 I agree with the OP, except there should be a proper player corp they are all kicked to. Get some player to volunteer to run it. They can put the noobs to work doing something useful. In fact, I volunteer to run that corp.  (Of course, they could vote for a new CEO and become an army of noobs with CNRs and 5 covetors per head)
Or just push them into a war-deccable NPC corp. That'd be something.
Emphasis on bold. It's almost incredible the control that some 'L33T' players want to excert on others . It's not about what individuals want to do. It's about what YOU want them to do, eh.
And IF this were ever to come into effect, I can only imagine the number of 'just cuz i can, u n00b!' war decs on these NPC corps.
Back to mining veld noob!
Nah, I was just kidding, I think it might be an idea to adjust the noob corps a bit, to bring them more in line with normal player corps, just for consistencies sake, but I really don't care anyway, carrying the shoot-me-plz tag of a noobcorp and being restricted to empire is punishment enough . ----------
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