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Max Godsnottlingson Amarr Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2007.02.06 22:14:00 - [61] Edited by: Max Godsnottlingson on 06/02/2007 22:11:27 As somebody who is getting fed up with being in constant war for the last few month, thanks to the idiots in PA and every other high sec gank Corp who love to wardeck industrial alliances for the easy targets. I'll tell you what I am doing. Putting my main character on hold, and starting a new one who will be noob corp only so as I can play the game as I want and, at least mentaly, give the finger to all you lame brained high sec gankers and campers. I will choose when I want to risk PvP when I decide to go into low sec, or perhaps 0.0, otherwise I will use every 'legel' trick I can to make sure that none of the 'spoilt brats' get in the way of my game, and if that mean an alt perminantly in an NPC Corp, that's what I will, and am doing
Soporo	Posted - 2007.02.06 22:46:00 - [62] I USED to feel the same way about npc corps, till the constant wardeccing in Emp arrived. In truth I want my cake and eat it too, and am honest enough to admit it. I want to Wardec macro'ers. I also want a break from the incessant empire wardecs, in aid of this I sometimes spend time on a different charracter, my only other one. Possibly two mutually exclusive goals.
Rooker Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.02.06 22:57:00 - [63] Quote: in response to the 4 page thread about putting n00b corp tax up to 30% i decided to voice my own opinion. A) Your opinion is no more important than everyone else's in that other thread, so posting a new thread on exactly the same subject is spamming. I'm surprised it hasn't been locked already. B) Your opinion on how someone should play the game is no more important than every other player's opinion. C) The guy in the starter corp paid exactly the same amount of money this month as you did. Take a wild guess who gets to decide how he plays. ---
Blue Pixie	Posted - 2007.02.06 23:09:00 - [64] In case anyone missed it... Follow this link to see just how committed Inn0cent Victim is to following his/her own advice!
Reangorette Bianie	Posted - 2007.02.06 23:17:00 - [65] All assets should be held in common. Tax should be 100% and if you can't link with a corps that supplies you with equipment then you're out of luck. NPC corps should tax @ 75% and remit all proceeds to the largest non-NPC corps as a "shake-down" tax to permit these dinasours to remain as entities. NPC stations should be conquerable by the way. You start as a noob, you join a corps. That simple. This would really enliven PVP play.
Asinia Au Amarr Order of the Blessed Sisters of Amarr	Posted - 2007.02.06 23:33:00 - [66] Originally by: Blue Pixie In case anyone missed it... Follow this link to see just how committed Inn0cent Victim is to following his/her own advice! LOL @ Inn0cent Victim !!!!!
Dagda Dia	Posted - 2007.02.06 23:33:00 - [67] Originally by: Inn0cent Victim a final note: for some reason the statement "hey stop trying to change my playstyle man" makes me think of hippies. Its not your playstyle ***** its the one the devs let you have so dont get all righteous about something that might change tomoro. I am a hippie and I will not allow some ahole tell me how I must play the game I pay for. It is not against the rules to be in a NPC crop. Your just upset because you can't make everyone do what you want. By the way I did make a corp just for my 3 characters. But I did it so I could have corp hangars to share stuff between them. But I still fill pepole should be allow to play the way they want to as long as it doesn't hurt other's game play. Seems to me most pepole complaining about players in NPC corps are the ones that just want to declare war on everyone. Other wise why would they care? Move along nothing to see here, yes I am a ALT Just portecting my main.
Farrellus Cameron Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2007.02.06 23:35:00 - [68] You'll never get an answer as to whether CCP intends people to leave NPC corps at a certain point. CCP does not tell people how they want them to play. If they care, they change the game mechanics. Additionally, I know real players who have been in NPC corps for years. They aren't griefers or macros, they just like to play that way. I myself stayed in my starter corp for almost 5 months and enjoyed playing that way. You may not like the way they've chosen to play the game, but that's irrelevant. Personally, I think people who complain about players in NPC corps are just whiners. Is there a reason to not join a player corp and stay in an NPC corp? You bet: you can't get wardecced in an NPC corp. That's a big reason and its perfectly legitimate. Can you blame people for not wanting to be involved in Empire wars? Just because you don't like that reason doesn't mean its invalid. Prove to me that CCP wants it different? ----------------------------------------------------
Soon Tzu	Posted - 2007.02.06 23:35:00 - [69] Originally by: Inn0cent Victim Originally by: Philo Farnsworth I think every player that hasn't joined an elite pvp 0.0 alliance within 30 days of joining Eve, and seen actual pvp action, should have the Eve application self-delete from their computer. If they haven't left the npc corp, have it format the hard drive before it goes. no, i think your full of **** and you dont have enough brain cells to come up with anything other than a sarcastic response to a post you werent able to muster the mental power to read, even the bold bits. you lost any ability to make a point by using insults as your means to explain YOUR side of the issue... so here is a point, I pay for my sub, not you, not some other twit, just me, and I will play how I so please, in what ever corp I so choose. now for the sarcasm; I say we force all players to be in a noob corp for a year if they leave a player corp, to ensure there are no war dec evading exploiters in the game...makes as much sense as the OP's hairbrained thought...
Blue Pixie	Posted - 2007.02.06 23:36:00 - [70] Originally by: Reangorette Bianie All assets should be held in common. Tax should be 100% and if you can't link with a corps that supplies you with equipment then you're out of luck. NPC corps should tax @ 75% and remit all proceeds to the largest non-NPC corps as a "shake-down" tax to permit these dinasours to remain as entities. NPC stations should be conquerable by the way. You start as a noob, you join a corps. That simple. This would really enliven PVP play. Oh my, the irony/hypocrisy continues!
Roy Batty68 Caldari Immortal Dead	Posted - 2007.02.06 23:56:00 - [71] While I'm not really decided on whether this idea is deserving of much attention, it certainly is alot more effective at solving some of the problems with untouchables in NPC corps than a tax would be. But that's about it. And it's a bit ham fisted but meh... whatever. The problem with "solving" the untouchable NPC corp issues is that it's a bit like dropping a nuclear bomb on a whole city to take care of the rat infestation in one house. A whole heck of alot more people are thumped by it compared to the smallish percentage that are actually needing the thumping. Gotta admit though, dropping a nuke can be pretty efficient at times... Nuke em all! Let Darwin sort em out. ------------------- Ignorance
Drege Intarestum	Posted - 2007.02.06 23:59:00 - [72] There's only one thing their side of the argument has said that I agree with. Nosec and Lowsec should be more enticing. There should be enough reward to justify there being enough targets in lowsec and nosec to still the whiner's tounge. If I knew that 50/50 I could make a vast profit by ninja mining into low-sec, I'd do it. At the moment, though, it's not worth it. Much easier to mine up lows, sell them and buy highs and continue thataway. I think the expanded 0.0 was a great start. I like the idea of more of this...
Blue Pixie	Posted - 2007.02.07 00:08:00 - [73] Originally by: Roy Batty68 While I'm not really decided on whether this idea is deserving of much attention, it certainly is alot more effective at solving some of the problems with untouchables in NPC corps than a tax would be. But that's about it. And it's a bit ham fisted but meh... whatever. The problem with "solving" the untouchable NPC corp issues is that it's a bit like dropping a nuclear bomb on a whole city to take care of the rat infestation in one house. A whole heck of alot more people are thumped by it compared to the smallish percentage that are actually needing the thumping. Gotta admit though, dropping a nuke can be pretty efficient at times... Nuke em all! Let Darwin sort em out. Or... people could just grow a pair, shoot whomever they want in high sec, and take the Concord retribution like a man. Players in NPC corps are NOT untouchable; some people just don't want to suffer any consequences for their actions.
Roy Batty68 Caldari Immortal Dead	Posted - 2007.02.07 00:18:00 - [74] Originally by: Blue Pixie Or... people could just grow a pair, shoot whomever they want in high sec, and take the Concord retribution like a man. Players in NPC corps are NOT untouchable; some people just don't want to suffer any consequences for their actions. True dat. But then just how many of those 'pairs' are required for a NPC corper flown freighter? That's alot of kamakaze reproductive bits flinging themselves... er... about. Anyway, as I said, I'm not all that enthusiastic about this particular "solution". Was just noting that it does take care of quite a bit in one go. /shrug ------------------- Ignorance
Hellspawn01 Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.02.07 00:51:00 - [75] So they fly a freighter? And? On the other hand, I suggested a long time ago to make capital ships assigned to corp roles. Its to secure titan pilots to stay with the ship in the corp with a huge amount of corp skills to give the role out. So they dont pay tax? And? They make isk like you and me, I buy stuff like you do from the market. Are you that jelious about some mil isk that doesnt land in your wallet? Boohoo So they cant be war decced? And? They fly into low sec, 0.0 and high sec, everywhere. There¦s a ton of ways to kill them. THINK! Use that what you call braincells and stop whining about something that within the game rules. Ship lovers click here
Inn0cent Victim	Posted - 2007.02.07 00:54:00 - [76] Edited by: Inn0cent Victim on 07/02/2007 00:51:38 Originally by: Ta chaina tI read your hole post and your idea sucks so no. I wont bother telling you why it sucks because you don't care anyways so Ill just say NO. I really like this reply Yes of course Inn0cent victim is in a newb corp........whilst im sure my corp and alliance mates wouldnt care that im having what is really a totally pointless argument with you people id rather keep it between you and me In truth I cannot prove CCP planned for anyone to leave their starter corp whoever mentioned that, good point. To the "Privateers war-dec industrial corps so im off to join a starter corp" person, you are one of the reasons this needs to be done. Privateers have war-decced ALL the major alliances in the game, they are anything but "industrial corp gankers." no one is whining. I saw a post and had an idea about a change I would like to see in the game, so i posted it. This is for general conversation by the eve-o community and as such i think it serves its purpose perfectly well. /me adds imperial shipment to 'war-dec' list
Blue Pixie	Posted - 2007.02.07 01:32:00 - [77] Originally by: Inn0cent Victim Yes of course Inn0cent victim is in a newb corp........whilst im sure my corp and alliance mates wouldnt care that im having what is really a totally pointless argument with you people id rather keep it between you and me And that makes you less of a hypocrite... how again? Funny how you find no shame in hiding behind an alt or NPC corp when it suits your purposes.
Inn0cent Victim	Posted - 2007.02.07 01:41:00 - [78] Edited by: Inn0cent Victim on 07/02/2007 01:37:39 Originally by: Blue Pixie And that makes you less of a hypocrite... how again? Funny how you find no shame in hiding behind an alt or NPC corp when it suits your purposes. explain how it makes me a hypocrite at all u illiterate moron? by my OP I would currently be in a corp called "Inn0cent victim corp." How is that any different to the situation here? Did i say "no alts"? Did i say "Alts must be in a traceable corp"? Nope. I was however waiting for you to jump into that big pile of crap with both feet in your eagerness to be a smartarse tho good job there
Ponderous Thunderstroke Minmatar Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.02.07 01:45:00 - [79] I totally disagree with you and believe things should stay exactly the same, status quo. I therefore cancel out your vote. Next topic please. gavel
Asinia Au Amarr Order of the Blessed Sisters of Amarr	Posted - 2007.02.07 01:49:00 - [80] Originally by: Blue Pixie Originally by: Inn0cent Victim Yes of course Inn0cent victim is in a newb corp........whilst im sure my corp and alliance mates wouldnt care that im having what is really a totally pointless argument with you people id rather keep it between you and me And that makes you less of a hypocrite... how again? Funny how you find no shame in hiding behind an alt or NPC corp when it suits your purposes. Ah, but it is okay for IV to use an NPC corp when suitable, it is only not okay for anyone else. Why? Well, I guess becuase we just aren't uber enough. Maybe someday I will be uber and able to display IV's unbridled arrogance. Then I can make cool threads like this one so we can all "discuss" things too. /me dons her flameproof suit in anticipation of IV's oh so scathing response.
Jin Steele Fatalix Inc. Schism.	Posted - 2007.02.07 01:55:00 - [81] Originally by: Philo Farnsworth I think every player that hasn't joined an elite pvp 0.0 alliance within 30 days of joining Eve, and seen actual pvp action, should have the Eve application self-delete from their computer. If they haven't left the npc corp, have it format the hard drive before it goes. sir you will need to reformat, as you are not in an alliance. have a nice day. Fatalix IS RECRUITING!
Blue Pixie	Posted - 2007.02.07 02:12:00 - [82] Originally by: Inn0cent Victim explain how it makes me a hypocrite at all u illiterate moron? Explain again why you're not posting on your main... why you want to keep this "between you and me"? It wouldn't happen to be because you're concerned about getting a bounty or a wardec... would it? Heaven forbid! Consequences are for those naughty people hiding in NPC corps... not you and your forum alt of course! Maybe you need to break out a dictionary and re-familiarize yourself with the word, "hypocrite"? Better still... look up "coward."
Asinia Au Amarr Order of the Blessed Sisters of Amarr	Posted - 2007.02.07 02:14:00 - [83] LOL! PWN3D!!!
Exlegion New Light Schism.	Posted - 2007.02.07 02:33:00 - [84] Originally by: Blue Pixie Originally by: Inn0cent Victim explain how it makes me a hypocrite at all u illiterate moron? Explain again why you're not posting on your main... why you want to keep this "between you and me"? It wouldn't happen to be because you're concerned about getting a bounty or a wardec... would it? Heaven forbid! Consequences are for those naughty people hiding in NPC corps... not you and your forum alt of course! Maybe you need to break out a dictionary and re-familiarize yourself with the word, "hypocrite"? Better still... look up "coward." Priceless! OP: "NERF NOOB CORPS SO THEY CAN BE WAR-DECCED!!!1!11" Replier: "But... But I can't even war dec you because you're using an alt" OP: "YEAH, BUT I DONT WANT TO BE WAR-DECCED. I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO WAR-DEC OTHER PEOPLE. YARRR?
Don Temujin Mothers of EVE	Posted - 2007.02.07 02:53:00 - [85] Originally by: Inn0cent Victim dont raise the tax, dont do anything, just kick players automatically out of newb corps after 60 days. Simple. No stick, no carrot, just out. Players failing to find a player corp before the 60 days is up get moved into a new 1 man player corp named after themselves. Good idea, yet... Quote: This would be the new default corp for players leaving one player corp for another. This gives me another one. Why not allow characters who manage to reach a 'Good' standing (+5.0 iinm) with NPC corps to apply and join them ? Wouldn't that make sense, and be consistent with the factional warfare that is supposed to be part of Kali ? Quote: simple. Simplistic ? Quote: There is no argument against this [...] Lack of imagination ? Quote: I wont allow the EvE public to ruin a good idea [...] Are you a dev now ? Quote: a final note: for some reason the statement "hey stop trying to change my playstyle man" makes me think of hippies. Its not your playstyle ***** its the one the devs let you have so dont get all righteous about something that might change tomoro. ...or SoonÖ.
Kuriatai Gallente	Posted - 2007.02.07 02:57:00 - [86] All I see is the same nonsense of forcing others to play the way you think they should. Commander USS Turtle U-1 Unknown, unauthorized, and first of that class
Anila's Delight	Posted - 2007.02.07 03:40:00 - [87] I must admit, this idea made me laugh, then seeing the irony pics made me laugh so hard my boss asked if i was ok. Now the flaminng. NPC corps are not just for newbies. NPC corps are their for a variety of reasons, one reason is that some people just dont have the time to participate in player corps, some players would rather mine, trade, haul or do other carebeary things in empire than PvP. PvP is not the be all and end all in eve, it is a legitimate play style, but i would hardly call it THE playstyle. Eve is a sandbox game, which means that you can play however the game mechanics permit, not how everyone else thinks you should. Everyone pays their $15 a month and so can play how they think they should, not how you think they should. When i first started playing eve, i didnt have much time to play, so i mined away happiy in empire in a newbie corp keeping to myself slowly gaining isk. When i found the time to play nearly every night (much to the dissaproval of my gf) i joined a large corp that is established in 0.0 and now help run it. The way i see eve is that pvp is consentual (let the flaming begin), if you dont wish to pvp, take steps to avoid it. Dont travel to losec, stay in a newbie corp, dont smacktalk in local. Of course their is the chance of being sucide ganked, but why give someone the choice? My point to all this is that your argument is very flawed, full of personal insults and you are just one person who does not speak on behalf of the devs so have no right to claim how eve should be played, as i do not. I appologise if all of this has been said before, but i could not be bothered to read this entire article as i can see what a retard this person realy is. Yes i am an alt.
Farrellus Cameron Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2007.02.07 04:18:00 - [88] Well said Anila. Wholeheartedly agree. ----------------------------------------------------

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