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Zapya Bigtime
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Posted - 2007.02.06 21:10:00 -
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Edited by: Zapya Bigtime on 06/02/2007 21:08:22 2007 02:06 12:01 -- By Drago Saltari, RE, CYI Press Secretary.
Unamed Directors of Red Eclipse corp, and their Alliance Cyrene Initiative have petitioned Concord and Gallente Federation to declare The Star Fraction as hostile to the Gallente Federation.
Citing as an example, The Star Fractions latest act of armed insurrection, the attack on The Sisters of Eve's relief and aid convoy.
Ref: Order of Medusa Tests New Virus, Shocking the Sisters -- as reported by Eris Discordia, 2007.02.05 13:53:33
"Sister Rhayne ws equally appalled by the actions of the Order of Medusa and Star Fraction, the latter who attacked the fleet of Sisters and others who wanted to help".
The growing mood amoung the Industrialists in the Placid area, particularly the Stacmon system is one increasing frustration. Considering that the Federation continues to allow Star Fraction and it's members the Use of Gallente Federation facilities and space.
Further evidence presented were several Anti-Federation statements written by the drug addled Jasmine Constantine -- the alter ego of Jade Constantine, the founder of The Star Fraction alliance and Jericho Fraction corporation.
One Industrialist was quoted as saying: "The only markets making isk today are the drug traders who deal in X-instinct, Drop, and Exile -- as keeping up with Jasmines consumption is an industry in itself.
Edit: Sorry folks, but Sender is Drago Saltari, not Zapya Bigtime. Sender is reset on preview.
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.06 21:16:00 -
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I most certainly am not "the alter ego" of Jade Constantine. And if you doubt my ability to defend my words and conscience in space then I will meet any member of CYI alliance in space in a duel to the death of a battleship class vessel at a time of your convenience.
But the time has come for you to surrender your alliance and admit you have neither the will nor the capability to sustain the casualties we have inflicted to the nationalist memetics at the core of your organisation.
You have no organised existance in space. It is well past the moment for you to yield and seek terms.
Star Fraction is recruiting
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Ituralde
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.06 21:18:00 -
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Use our war against your petty nationalist alliance for this request. Keep your lies about the Sisters of EVE out of this.
Do your research and find out what really happened there before coming out in public to make yourself look like an idiot.
And about Jasmine, I would watch your tongue about that, she's touchy about getting put in the same category as her cousin and has a rather short temper. I think its the excessive hair... _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
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Sakura Nihil
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.06 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Zapya Bigtime Citing as an example, The Star Fractions latest act of armed insurrection, the attack on The Sisters of Eve's relief and aid convoy.
Its a shame you believe everything you read in the news and instantly assume its correct.
Originally by: Zapya Bigtime The growing mood amoung the Industrialists in the Placid area, particularly the Stacmon system is one increasing frustration. Considering that the Federation continues to allow Star Fraction and it's members the Use of Gallente Federation facilities and space.
How is living and Stacmon and buying goods there frustrating the industrialists of the area? Oh, I'm sure you're going to make comments of how we support piracy or some other similar rabble; any inquisitive soul can go onto our kill database that's open to the public and see that we've inflicted notable losses among the local pirates of Black Fleet, SNIGG, and Turby before they departed for greener pastures.
Originally by: Zapya Bigtime Further evidence presented were several Anti-Federation statements written by the drug addled Jasmine Constantine -- the alter ego of Jade Constantine, the founder of The Star Fraction alliance and Jericho Fraction corporation.
They are very much cousins, if they're alter egos some law of physics has to be bent when they are flying two separate ships side by side in space.
Originally by: Zapya Bigtime One Industrialist was quoted as saying: "The only markets making isk today are the drug traders who deal in X-instinct, Drop, and Exile -- as keeping up with Jasmines consumption is an industry in itself.
Proof of this?
Honestly, you've been pathetic in this war, is this a last-ditch attempt to smear our name on the grounds that we might be sensitive to our PR? Come now.
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Lexiana Del'Amore
Gallente Equilibrium Society
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Posted - 2007.02.06 21:44:00 -
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And once again the Terrorist dogs come forth to spew their demented ramblings in force, can't you please do us all a favor and select one Puppie a day as a Galnet Warrior. Trying to sift through your torades of propaganda is becoming quite straining on my eyes. Perhaps i need to visit one of the ophthalmic optician services our Federation provides free of charge for all registered Capsuleers. I wonder, will your vision of the future provide me with equally good health care?
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Kovid
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.06 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Zapya Bigtime Edited by: Zapya Bigtime on 06/02/2007 21:08:22 2007 02:06 12:01 -- By Drago Saltari, RE, CYI Press Secretary.
One Industrialist was quoted as saying: "The only markets making isk today are the drug traders who deal in X-instinct, Drop, and Exile -- as keeping up with Jasmines consumption is an industry in itself.
Edit: Sorry folks, but Sender is Drago Saltari, not Zapya Bigtime. Sender is reset on preview.
ONE Industrialist. I think the one you were talking to was on what he was trading. Obviously taking part of his product has hurt his own business. I don't feel for him in any way. You sure know how to find the winners. That's been proven already over the course of the war.
As for the growing mood, do not mistaken your alliance's mood for everyone in the region. Again, it is subject to sitting in stations due to us imposing our will on you. It seems our ideology and will is greater than CYI.
As for the Federation, we have played by the rules of the Yulai conflagaration, shot only at those who sot at us, payed CONCORD for the war against you. And we are against the nationalist enclosure of every federation and itÆs debasing of its people with a viel of democracy. They have done nothing for you, and will do nothing.
That is the hint. Just throw off the shackles of nationalism and enclosurism, stand up for yourself, and act upon it. Begging for the help of others is the mess that entities like the Federation reinforce and you so exlpicitly show here.
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.06 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Lexiana Del'Amore Yap yap yap. *piddle*
If you love the Federation so much, why won't you fight for it? What's that? Fighting for the Federation is too expensive? For shame. _
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Lexiana Del'Amore
Gallente Equilibrium Society
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Posted - 2007.02.06 22:08:00 -
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Originally by: Devilish Ledoux
Originally by: Lexiana Del'Amore Yap yap yap. *piddle*
If you love the Federation so much, why won't you fight for it? What's that? Fighting for the Federation is too expensive? For shame.
The Federation, and it's ideals have lasted for centuries, and will continue to do so long after your disgruntled bunch of misfits have faded away into the past. Enjoy it while it lasts Star Faction
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Able Citizen
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.06 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Lexiana Del'Amore
Originally by: Devilish Ledoux
Originally by: Lexiana Del'Amore Yap yap yap. *piddle*
If you love the Federation so much, why won't you fight for it? What's that? Fighting for the Federation is too expensive? For shame.
The Federation, and it's ideals have lasted for centuries, and will continue to do so long after your disgruntled bunch of misfits have faded away into the past. Enjoy it while it lasts Star Faction
Oooooo!
I must say, my dear Lexiana, you are awfully sexy as you throw out your idle threats...
I invite you to join me for a little 'one on one' in La Maison.
*Able Citizen blows Lexiana a kiss*
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.06 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Able Citizen Oooooo!
I must say, my dear Lexiana, you are awfully sexy as you throw out your idle threats...
I invite you to join me for a little 'one on one' in La Maison.
*Able Citizen blows Lexiana a kiss*
Now you know that she's just a tease. She'll tell you all about how she's going to shiver your timbers, but she'll refuse to even take off her shoes. _
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.06 22:31:00 -
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[ 2007.02.03 23:47:01 ] Zabrina > SF has already won. No need to elaborate further.
I can only agree with Zabrina, a founding member and director of Red Eclipse.
The Cosmopolite
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Able Citizen
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.06 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: Devilish Ledoux
Originally by: Able Citizen Oooooo!
I must say, my dear Lexiana, you are awfully sexy as you throw out your idle threats...
I invite you to join me for a little 'one on one' in La Maison.
*Able Citizen blows Lexiana a kiss*
Now you know that she's just a tease. She'll tell you all about how she's going to shiver your timbers, but she'll refuse to even take off her shoes.
*Able Citizen giggles*
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Tyr Cloudstone
Gallente Phoenix Wing
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Posted - 2007.02.06 23:20:00 -
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Lexiana is correct.
why is that everytime one of you 'free captains' say something another load of you have to come along and say almost the same things using the few different words you understand from the language while throwing in some well disguised smack talk. Top class job there!!!!!
Federation will out last this farce that is Star Fraction. We are the warriors of freedom you are the oppressive.
Tyr Cloudstone
Queue the 300 hundred half witted replies from star fractions finest
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.06 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tyr Cloudstone We are the warriors of freedom you are the oppressive.
I think "warriors" is pushing it a bit.
Star Fraction is recruiting
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.06 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Tyr Cloudstone why is that everytime one of you 'free captains' say something another load of you have to come along and blah blah blah blah blah I really didn't read this far.
Because waiting for Cyrene pilots to fight is a very boring business and we can't kill ALL of the Black Fleet pilots or they won't come back. If it weren't for Galnet, who knows what kind of trouble we'd get ourselves into. _
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Tyr Cloudstone
Gallente Phoenix Wing
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Posted - 2007.02.06 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Tyr Cloudstone We are the warriors of freedom you are the oppressive.
I think "warriors" is pushing it a bit.
I'm impressed. You actually made a post with only one line in it. I won't have to battle sleep to understand this witty retort.
Tyr Cloudstone
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.06 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: Tyr Cloudstone
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Tyr Cloudstone We are the warriors of freedom you are the oppressive.
I think "warriors" is pushing it a bit.
I'm impressed. You actually made a post with only one line in it. I won't have to battle sleep to understand this witty retort.
Tyr Cloudstone
Ladies and gentlemen, another fine graduate of the University of Caille. _
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Tyr Cloudstone
Gallente Phoenix Wing
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Posted - 2007.02.06 23:37:00 -
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I'm here all week. If the money's good i even dance. i used to be able to juggle but i'm not sure
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Celedris
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.06 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: Zapya Bigtime Cyrene Initiative have petitioned Concord and Gallente Federation to declare The Star Fraction as hostile to the Gallente Federation.
If only all of life's little troubles could be solved by impetuous desire alone.
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Dax Bandar
Gallente Guiding Star The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2007.02.07 08:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
I most certainly am not "the alter ego" of Jade Constantine. And if you doubt my ability to defend my words and conscience in space then I will meet any member of CYI alliance in space in a duel to the death of a battleship class vessel at a time of your convenience.
What would be the stakes of such a duel?
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Durok Torn
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Posted - 2007.02.09 06:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
But the time has come for you to surrender your alliance and admit you have neither the will nor the capability to sustain the casualties we have inflicted to the nationalist memetics at the core of your organisation.
I usuaLLY don't like to get into any discusion with SF since it is a waste of effert but I will say this:
CYI has held out until now, and we'll hold out longer. If we 'surendered' on your terms you'll jsut manufacture an excuse to war dec us again by choosing to construe something we did as 'pro federation', or by having IU infiltrate one of our corp by another alt to publish inflamatory statements on IGS.
Honestly, i think we can outwait you. You guys are griefers, and you must be getting bored camping stations with afk characters in them. Make no mistake, we have the will.
PS: it is to late at night to type properly, so i stand by my typos! FREEDOM (ect ect)
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Destania
Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.09 07:09:00 -
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Edited by: Destania on 09/02/2007 07:09:42
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CYI has held out until now
"Now" meaning...since almost day one of the war, when your standing orders were to NOT engage SF?
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If we 'surendered' on your terms you'll jsut manufacture an excuse to war dec us again by choosing to construe something we did as 'pro federation', or by having IU infiltrate one of our corp by another alt to publish inflamatory statements on IGS.
You only need to ask the previous corps SF has been at war with that properly surrendered, they have not been harrassed nore have we threatened to wardec them again. Unless of course they go back to thier old ways.
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You guys are griefers, and you must be getting bored camping stations with afk characters in them.
Bored? We have have plenty of things to keep us content. We can do mission, fly to 0.0, clean up a few bad area's in low sec, go shopping, test some new fittings...how about you?
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Make no mistake, we have the will.
Will? What will?? The only mistake we made was in thinking your alliance, which was nearly triple the size of our own, would actually fight....you have done well though in proving that very wrong.
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Atandros
Gallente Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.09 07:42:00 -
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Originally by: Durok Torn CYI has held out until now, and we'll hold out longer. (...) Honestly, i think we can outwait you. (...) Make no mistake, we have the will.
I wonder, how are you possibly able to say that with a straight face when your alliance has dropped from ~250 members to 116 in the last five weeks?
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.09 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Atandros
Originally by: Durok Torn CYI has held out until now, and we'll hold out longer. (...) Honestly, i think we can outwait you. (...) Make no mistake, we have the will.
I wonder, how are you possibly able to say that with a straight face when your alliance has dropped from ~250 members to 116 in the last five weeks?
I dunno Atandros, maybe it's culling the weak, reducing the chaff, removing the targets, limiting profit loss, relocation of personel, skimming the milk, cutting the Frentix, selling some slaves (sibilance!), liquidation of human assets, turning a...
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Durok Torn
Minmatar Red Eclipse Inc. The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Destania
"Now" meaning...since almost day one of the war, when your standing orders were to NOT engage SF?
We never had standing order not to engage. In the early days we made many attemtpts, but were always faced with (usually overwelmining) numerical superiority. And of course some chose to jsut not engage. And that is their choice, CYI, unlike SF, was enevr a 100% PVP allaince.
Originally by: Destania
Will? What will?? The only mistake we made was in thinking your alliance, which was nearly triple the size of our own, would actually fight....you have done well though in proving that very wrong.
We were never triple the size of you. Since the fisrt day of the war yo had more online combat effectives than we had total online, including our industrialists and other non-PVP indivduals. You had us out numbered and out gunned at the very beginning. You guys can pat yourselves on the back til you are blue, but you were always bigger tan us, and way more combat oriented (only about 30% of CYI was ever PVP oriented).
I am still proud of the alliance for holding together for 5 long weeks of war. We lost some people, some were no loss, some will come back, and some we'll need to replace. But we stood up to your agression (even if we lacked the manpower to outright fight it).
I'll not debate that you millitary overwelmed us, it is true. Yes, faced with a superior force we were mostly forced into a denied engagment strategem. But if we had neer fought back, as you would like to imply, you would have suffered 0 losses. We may have lsot more, but you didn't come out of this without a few deaths on your side.
I would like to post the following quote from SF:
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
If faced with overwhelming force we will retreat
At any rate, it is just all egos at this piont. The basis for yur war with us was on misinformation fed to you by IU that we were some sort of nationalistic fanatics, which is so far from the truth as to be laughable. You had us outgunned, and we lost the war. Such is life. We continue anyways (despite IU pormises to end us forever in this war).
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Celedris
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.10 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Durok Torn If we 'surendered' on your terms you'll jsut manufacture an excuse to war dec us again by choosing to construe something we did as 'pro federation'
Quite the opposite, actually. We honor our surrender terms. In fact by refusal and mockery of formal surrender, Cyrene has only increased the likelihood that it will be revisited by another war declaration in the future.
See you around.
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Celia Azur
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.11 01:16:00 -
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Edited by: Celia Azur on 11/02/2007 01:15:09 Edited by: Celia Azur on 11/02/2007 01:14:11
Originally by: Durok Torn
I would like to post the following quote from SF:
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
If faced with overwhelming force we will retreat
Incomplete quoting is bad. You didn't even put an ellipsis to show you left out the most important part of what follows. I'll paste it here for you:
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
What happens if a hostile force attacks the Star Fraction?
We will respond on our own terms and strike back at times and methods of our own choosing entirely. If faced with overwhelming force we will retreat and fight somewhere else. We have no emotional or patriotic stake in defending systems and stations for silly pride. If the enemy is strong weÆll go to where he is weak. If he is weak we will try to cut off his tail and wave it in the air to show that the beast is mortal and can bleed. Sometimes we will fight in battleships, sometimes we will run like the wind and mob foes with interceptors and frigates. Since our territory is the territory of ideas we have no obligation to do other than remain resolute in keeping to our core paradigms and transcend the nonsense of place and symbolic locations in post-diaspora warfare. In essence, we are a territorialist's worst nightmare because we do not play by his rules, and even while withdrawing in the face of massive fleets we are planning to counter-attack against his underbelly while making a neat profit selling him ammunition, equipment and advanced combat ships.
Notice he did not say "If faced with overwhelming force retreat with much haste to the nearest station and stay there forever."
Jump clones, corp mates, and location agents can do wonders in fighting while outnumbered.
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At any rate, it is just all egos at this piont. The basis for yur war with us was on misinformation fed to you by IU that we were some sort of nationalistic fanatics, which is so far from the truth as to be laughable. You had us outgunned, and we lost the war. Such is life. We continue anyways (despite IU pormises to end us forever in this war).
Wrong again. IU had nothing to do with us going to war. Quit trying to mitigate the thrashing your received from them by repeating this fallacy.
Anyway, the war is indeed over. I'm sure we'll be watching you dock again in the future.
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Destania
Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.12 04:41:00 -
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Originally by: Durok Torn
The basis for yur war with us was on misinformation fed to you by IU that we were some sort of nationalistic fanatics, which is so far from the truth as to be laughable.
Founded by a group of nationalistic corporations the purpose of The Cyrene Initiative is to protect democratic freedoms and civil rights inside the borders of the Federation.
Sounds nationalistic to me.....
*shrugs*
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