Originally by: Avon

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This thread is a fine example of what is wrong with mob mentality.
It doesn't matter what the facts are, or how they are phrased, people will believe what they want to believe.

CCP: "CCP have players in many alliances"
Witch Hunters: Yeah, but we are only interested in BoB witches. Clearly a Dev in BoB must be corrupt. It is obvious.

Hacker: A character who I think is a dev gave BoB some T2 BPO's.
Witch Hunters: Yeah, well, obviously the Dev cheated to create the BPO's, or coded the lottery in shuch a way that he would win. Stands to reason. I mean, we all know that the lottery is unfair because *I* have never had a BPO, so it is obvious the Devs cheat.

Hypothetical CCP announcement: "We looked in to the BPO thingy, and nothing unfair happened. The Dev in question legitimately aquired the BPO's on his player account."
Witch Hunters: Yeah, well, you would say that. It is a cover-up. We know that it was all cheating and h4x. Ban BoB, fire the Devs, turn the servers off!!

Hypothetical CCP announcement: "We looked in to the BPO thingy, and a Dev was a naughty boy."
Witch Hunters: Ah-ha! We knew it. BoB can't be trusted. The CCP can't be trusted. Ban BoB, fire the Devs, turn the servers off!

Meanwhile, back in the real world:
Devs are losing player characters because they got IP matched on a third party website.
CCP are losing reputation because people want to believe a conspiracy.
The playerbase becomes increasingly paranoid.

The whole community is going to hell, and for what?

If you believe all this stuff, fine.
I know nothing I say will change that.
Just leave.


This whole thing has saddened me to be honest.
Not the accusations, they are nothing unusual; but the community reaction to them.

This whole episode tarnishes the image of CCP, of BoB (not that we didn't have a bad image anyway), but mostly of the community.

Sad times.

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Originally by: Anonymous Coward

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Did you mean to quote and reply to this post with your Sinlare alt, but selected the wrong dropdown option?

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Originally by: FireFoxx80

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Originally by: Avon

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Edited by: Avon on 07/02/2007 09:55:42
This thread is a fine example of what is wrong with mob mentality.
It doesn't matter what the facts are, or how they are phrased, people will believe what they want to believe.

Stuff

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Avon, I think most rational people in Eve would like to simply see a thorough and public investigation. Even if it incriminated people in their own corporation/alliances.

I know I certainly would.

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Originally by: Alakazam

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What do you expect the community to think?

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Originally by: Niaski Zalani

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Originally by: Avon

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Originally by: Niaski Zalani

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Alledged illegal action.

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Aren't we meant to presume guilt and get him to prove otherwise?

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I thought the idea was innocent until proven guilty?

So it's alledged. Proof or STFU :)

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Originally by: SNeAkYbRiT

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so can i have them BPO's as well plz????

I guess not so wake up bud this is CHEATING if we all cant have these BPO's why should BoB.

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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That is, of course, entirerly possible. But its not excalty conclusive proof that will shut up everyone is it? So passing it off like that in an arrogant sort of way isn't really helping is it?

Also, Judicator is still in Reikoku. What happened?

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Originally by: Drakma

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Is this a court of law?

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Originally by: The Mittani

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And you wonder why the community are convinced that there is misconduct here: BoB posters such as yourself are falling all over themselves desperately defending the rights of Devs to be in BoB.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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Originally by: Avon

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I think we have all stated that we would be in favour of more disclosure.
Read back.

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Well then!

Kindly disclose your defense of T20 donating his 10 t2 bpos from his character Ishos to Reikoku, once he was forced to leave the corp?

Let's assume for the moment that those t2 bpos were legitimately gained through legitimate game mechanics. No 'spawning bpos' argument or any of that nonsense.

Just a simple transaction: one of the main developers of the game is forced to leave RKK with his character, and as he leaves he just happens to donate thousands of dollars worth of the rarest items in the game to his beloved corp out of the goodness of his heart.

Your reasoning as to why this is peachy keen, and doesn't reek of an ethical violation?

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Originally by: Jacob Majestic

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Originally by: Avon

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If I was leaving Eve I would give my stuff to BNC.

What would you do with your stuff?

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You don't think CCP devs should be held to a higher standard of ethics with regard to their interaction with in-game alliances?

Interesting.

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Originally by: FireFoxx80

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If I was leaving Eve permanently then yes, I might give items to friends. Or probably just eBay them if I intended never yo return.

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Originally by: FireFoxx80

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Let's be honest Avon. If you were never intending to return to a game; why not make some RL money out of it? After all the only risk would be the killing of an account and a game that you never want to play again.

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