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Jin Steele Fatalix Inc. Schism.	Posted - 2007.02.08 02:22:00 - [31] im not stupid mate, ive been pvping my whole career in this game. it didnt say anything about agression, and we were deagressed immediately once they came in, it took them 5-7 minutes to kill us all, we were just sitting ducks. Fatalix IS RECRUITING!
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.02.08 02:38:00 - [32] Originally by: Cyrus Clarke Originally by: Danton Marcellus And how's that working for you? I wish you had the comms on recording for that one, I'm sure that was golden. Thanks for sharing. You win some, you loose some. No whining here. Not sure why your flaming. Flame on though, I'll put the hotdogs on the sticks... I meant that, thanks for sharing, made my day. I wish I could hear the comments made when these ships warped in on you. Also Known As
Gorion Wassenar Caldari Tsurokigaarai	Posted - 2007.02.08 02:47:00 - [33] Dear god! How dare the people who own said space patrol they're own territories and eliminate undesirables? Good freaking job Mordus. I would love to see more if this from the other 0.0 NPC entities. ----- results may vary
Jin Steele Fatalix Inc. Schism.	Posted - 2007.02.08 02:53:00 - [34] the point wasnt that they killed us, thats fair game and i understand it. the point is that it was impossible for us to catch them, never mind doing any damage. the fact that we couldnt warp/jump forced us to just sit there and let them orbit us till we died. if we had a chance, it would have been a fun fight, but instead we couldnt warp, we couldnt jump, we couldnt catch them. in a NAVY RAVEN. tbh if they are going to rp mordus, shouldnt they fit up real pvp BS, like actually put a tank on it? Fatalix IS RECRUITING!
Josh Causto Gallente Fatalix Inc. Schism.	Posted - 2007.02.08 02:56:00 - [35] Originally by: Gorion Wassenar Dear god! How dare the people who own said space patrol they're own territories and eliminate undesirables? Good freaking job Mordus. I would love to see more if this from the other 0.0 NPC entities. ....they were outside thier controlled systems.
Selim Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.02.08 02:58:00 - [36] How dare those AURORA actors actually win a fight against players!
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2007.02.08 02:59:00 - [37] Originally by: Jin Steele tbh if they are going to rp mordus, shouldnt they fit up real pvp BS, like actually put a tank on it? Speed = tank Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Ituralde Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.02.08 03:02:00 - [38] Spawn me some Mordus CNRs to gank please _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.02.08 03:03:00 - [39] Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 08/02/2007 03:00:39 More things like this are good. Good job Aurora. Make EVE the living world it deserves to be. And as Mordu's are supposed to be the best mercs in EVE (sorry MC) It doesnt seem that odd for them to come in the best ships when you make the mistake of shooting them. In fact, it sounds just about right. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Gaius Kador PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.02.08 07:51:00 - [40] Edited by: Gaius Kador on 08/02/2007 07:47:36 Hahaha! :) Edit: Its called NBSI... gold!!! ;) ----------------------------------------------
Micia Minmatar Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.02.08 08:29:00 - [41] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri More things like this are good. Good job Aurora. Make EVE the living world it deserves to be. Dang... PIE and I agree on something. _______ Rodj Blake > We Amarrians do things with dignity Evanda Char > That's not what the last dessert trolley you visited said
hotgirl933	Posted - 2007.02.08 08:35:00 - [42] nice something different
qw3l InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.02.08 09:47:00 - [43] Originally by: Gaius Kador Edited by: Gaius Kador on 08/02/2007 07:47:36 Hahaha! :) Edit: Its called NBSI... gold!!! ;) heheh.. yes ofc. most 0.0 alliances operate with NBSI policy nowadays, and especially in systems like EC-P8R, one of the most active chokepoints in the game. and we're not really used to have alot of aurora-teams flying around up here in the north, but maybe we should think twice about these things now since DICE moved into X-70. i have noticed a clear higher frequency in events now, one every other night it seems. also one thing.. how come the mordus instaspawned ganksquad jumped in from torrinos? their space is in the opposite direction from ec-p8r.
Varis Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.02.08 09:48:00 - [44] Originally by: Josh Causto Ok so today our alliance was camping a 0.0 entry system. All of a sudden, 6 Navy Ravens show up and start to attack us. They were from Mordu's Legion, a GM roleplay corp. Now im not complaining, just wondering, are they allowed to just go around killing things whenever they want? 6 Navy Ravens is nearly imposible to kill especially when you are in a small gang and when they are using the best spawned fittings and the best implants. I would like to hear everyones opinion about this. This just seems a little unfair to people that pay for this game and then get wtfpwnd by GM's. ok - lets see about this. Aurora are not GMs. They are playing "Mordu's" - expect them to use the best. *about warp/jump - aurora use the same gear that we use in game - sure they have faction gear etc, but it can only do stuff that we do anyway, so they cant block you jumping out unless you had agressed (or you suffered from bug, or are talking BS) Similarly, were they warp-scrambling you? doesn't sound like it. I've been in a few events, and from what i've seen they RP. If you shoot at a Mordu ship, expect them to bring reinforcements. You shot yourself in the food with NBSI there. If you talked to them and found out what they were doing, maybe you could have been in a neat event. Aurora is allowed to do RP events. If they are Mordus they will act like mercenaries. The game you pay for includes RP and RP characters played by aurora. Think of them as smarter NPCs.
Atreides Horza Soar Angelic	Posted - 2007.02.08 09:52:00 - [45] With all due respect, if you camp a gate you should be ready tot ake on whatever comes through - be it roleplayers, ebil pirates, merchants and what not... If you're sitting around mass ganking ships by the dozen regardless of player age and ship size (which I'm pretty sure is the case here), how can you seriously expect sympathy when you in turn get jumped by the bigger dog? EVE is a dog-eat-dog kindda world. I see no reason why anyone, AURORA or devs alike playing the game, should hold back on anyone. Rest assured if a couple of those Ravens had strolled through our backyard, there would have been NO mercy whatsoever on account of them being eventeers. Furthermore, while I'm not into the whole roleplaying thing (apart from the occasional "YaaaR!" here and "Ye scurvy dAwgs" there), I greatly appreciate the AURORA team and similar minded organizations for the depth they add to this game. A fleet of navy ravens sound like a sight to behold - even if you're at the receiving end - and all the more better if it's the usual vberl33t1st HAC-gang waiting next door with the "omfgwtfpsmlpwnedyoursorryassman"-attitude that seems to be prevalent with any halfwit who thinks that flying around in a gang of T-2 ships make you anything but a gang... Good luck with your camps in the future - although I doubt life will become easier for you. :)
Lowanaera Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.02.08 10:20:00 - [46] The first few replies really made me laugh. There is no consent, there are no events, there is no roleplay, there is only Eve. Everything you do, every interaction, is roleplay, whether you realize it or not. Roleplay in Eve isn't done (mostly) in channels, or on forums, or in Local, it's what every single person does every day, their actions, others reactions, and the resulting consequences. When I'm shooting pirates in low-sec Domain and Providence, it's not roleplaying because I'm in-character in Local about it when I'm doing it (though I am), it's roleplaying because I'm playing an active anti-pirate role by shooting them and they're playing an active pirate role by what they do every day, whether they do it in-character or while spewing 1337-ridden retarded gibberish. Eve is a living breathing world, not a stage with actors, and if you act against the interests of a faction within the world, you shouldn't be surprised when there's a response. Aurora understands this, and it's part of what makes Eve great. Your consent was when you created your account.
Lowanaera Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.02.08 10:20:00 - [47] The first few replies really made me laugh. There is no consent, there are no events, there is no roleplay, there is only Eve. Everything you do, every interaction, is roleplay, whether you realize it or not. Roleplay in Eve isn't done (mostly) in channels, or on forums, or in Local, it's what every single person does every day, their actions, others reactions, and the resulting consequences. When I'm shooting pirates in low-sec Domain and Providence, it's not roleplaying because I'm in-character in Local about it when I'm doing it (though I am), it's roleplaying because I'm playing an active anti-pirate role by shooting them and they're playing an active pirate role by what they do every day, whether they do it in-character or while spewing 1337-ridden retarded gibberish. Eve is a living breathing world, not a stage with actors, and if you act against the interests of a faction within the world, you shouldn't be surprised when there's a response. Aurora understands this, and it's part of what makes Eve great. Your consent was when you created your account.

Eris Discordia	Posted - 2007.02.08 10:45:00 - [48] If you believe you were attacked without a reason you should file a petition about it to the GM¦s, but attacking first means aurora is allowed to return the fire. Why is this signature pink? It is a mystery


Eris Discordia	Posted - 2007.02.08 10:45:00 - [49] If you believe you were attacked without a reason you should file a petition about it to the GM¦s, but attacking first means aurora is allowed to return the fire. Why is this signature pink? It is a mystery

Mickey Mouse Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.02.08 10:45:00 - [50] let me guess you guys attacked em first right? with no warning at all in local what you your intensions where? Im no alt!!!
Shiraz Merlot Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.08 10:55:00 - [51] It would be nice if there was some kind of record of these events. I mean, sometimes we might get a write-up with an event article. But mostly these events go unrecorded. Which seems wrong somehow - I mean, here we are talking about a RP event; surely there were players on the Mordu's Legion side, too? That's the usual Mordu's pattern, and certainly was when RAZOR lived in 5ZXX-K and was frequently involved in RP events on the Mordu's side.
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:25:00 - [52] Originally by: Eris Discordia If you believe you were attacked without a reason you should file a petition about it to the GM¦s, but attacking first means aurora is allowed to return the fire. Well, that should about cover it Still, let me try to put it into perspective. The game is full of NPCs. You do encounter high-bounty BS spawns or even officer spawns at gates in 0.0 sometimes, don't you ? Do you shoot them if they show up when gatecamping ? Do you expect them to return fire ? Would you be very surprised if more showed up ? Well, AURORA staff can be viewed as a different kind of NPC... one that's both smarter and stronger as any officer spawn you've ever seen before, but a NPC that doesn't automatically agress you on sight. You guys made the mistake of not checking WHO you're shooting at first, YOU started the fight (think of it as triggering a NPC spawn not unlike the ones some mission runners experienced lately with the "new missions"), you noticed you were losing, tried to escape but some of you didn't make it. Then I suppose you didn't even try to "surrender" in local chat... or at least I suppose you didn't, did you ? Or have you tried to bring more firepower to bear on them ? I am quite sure that IF you would have managed to destroy a couple of those Ravens, your group would have been rewarded with more than enough nice and shiny loot, and quite possibly you might have been able to force some of the remaining Raven pilots to eject, thus claiming not only some intact nice modules, but an entire (and might I add, damn expensive) ship ? All in all, AURORA did what they're supposed to be doing, and I for one would welcome a lot more of such events. _ MySkills \| Module/Rig stacknerfing explained
Wanoah Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:28:00 - [53] Ultimately, this illustrates how NBSI is lazy and bound to fail. NRDS is the intelligent option!
MrRookie Caldari Dark and Light inc. D-L	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:57:00 - [54] Originally by: Sinclaire To clarify, they were attacked by 6 navy ravens, piloted by Mordu's Legion GMs, all with names like Lieutenant something and Captain whatever. This situation wouldnt have been so bad if they didnt have such a huge advantage over normal players. How often do you see Navy Ravens going 10km/s? All while tanking and doing damage. I doubt a full-on fleet could have taken them down. We certainly did NOT agree to such a thing. Most people were able to get away, but we lost 3 ships. We wernt even in Mordu's space. It just isnt right how GMs can prance about killing whoever they like, for no reason whatsoever, for the sake of "roleplay". Hell, our corp standing with Mordu's is actually fairly good. Amidst all the accusations of GM and Dev misconduct, this doesnt help the situation. Dang... their going with the Nanofever... sig nurfed
Shinoobie	Posted - 2007.02.08 12:05:00 - [55] Edited by: Shinoobie on 08/02/2007 12:04:16 This is indeed a very touchy subject. Seems that the Aurora team are becoming a bit haphazard in their engagements, and with very little story line, and impossible to kill ships. Now lets just review the situation. 6 Navy Ravens is an impressive and very destructive gang indeed. Let alone whatever mods they had on to be going 10km/s. It would be nigh on impossible to kill them. Ok event starts. A single Navy Raven warps to the Torrinos gate. Was there any interactions in local from the Aurora Team? They are supposed to "bring" players into the event. Any neutral BS warping to a gate will get aggressed before the pilots even have time to determine who they or even open and look at BIOs. In this instance it would seem that the Aurora Team should have taken the responsibility of "bringing" the pilots in EC- into the Event. Originally by: Nebulai. Do I get reimbursed if I die? - Sadly you wonÆt but there is a reason for this. You will not loose a ship to an Aurora Actor or Producer for just being in their way you will only be æbrought into the eventÆ if you choose to participate. Choosing to participate can be done by either saying so in local or by targeting one of the ships or deciding to ignore the warnings given in local. So if you see people talking in local with coloured text and they seem like pirates just carry on with your own business and you wonÆt be attacked. As Nebulai as directed here, it is the responsibility of the actors to "bring" pilots into the event. Advance knowledge of the event is key here, and an actor warping to a gate with no announcement in local, does not cut it for "bringing" the pilots on the Torr gate into the game. It would seem that these pilots were "lead" into a trap more than anything else. So anyways, that being said, the events team got fired upon at which point according to Nebulai they can now fire back. The events took their course, strange things happened. Pilots involved in the event got absolutely nothing out if it. So what was the point of the event? I thought these were supposed to enrich the gameplay? It would seem the Aurora team went out on another unplanned, unscripted, gank fest in truly powerfull, uncatchable ships. The only people who seemed to have a good time were the actors. Now Nebulai also posted this... Originally by: Nebulai. The GM team reserves the right to take disciplinary action, up to and including permanent game bans, for willful disruption of events through any or all of the following: harsh language, blatantly out-of-character interaction, and/or any behavior deemed by GMs to be indicative of intent to disrupt events from properly proceeding. In cases where such action is deemed warranted, the GMsÆ decision will be final. In this situation it would appear the actors would be running the course against GM's. On this situation alone I do not make the argument, but now on a number of unplanned, uncharacteristic, unhelpfull, and very pointless and disjointed adhoc events that I have witnessed. All of which appear to be of benefit to the actors to get some ganking in, with some elite ships. Regards, Shin Elite Scouting
Roshan longshot Gallente Ordos Humanitas	Posted - 2007.02.08 12:22:00 - [56] Originally by: Josh Causto Ok so today our alliance was camping a 0.0 entry system. All of a sudden, 6 Navy Ravens show up and start to attack us. They were from Mordu's Legion, a GM roleplay corp. Now im not complaining, just wondering, are they allowed to just go around killing things whenever they want? 6 Navy Ravens is nearly imposible to kill especially when you are in a small gang and when they are using the best spawned fittings and the best implants. I would like to hear everyones opinion about this. This just seems a little unfair to people that pay for this game and then get wtfpwnd by GM's. Seems to me your little fleet got their arses handed back to them. And Yeah those ships pack some good gear, they are event prizes. And yeah your little fleet fired first, your the aggressor, and yeah you were denied jump rights, cause you were engaged in combat. And yeah you got warped jamed, target jamed, painted, pinged, poked, and blasted...By better players then you. Now what was the problem here again? Oh thats right...you got beaten by a better group... Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter *pirate* or mixture of them all. [i]As read from the original box.
Katia Tae Caldari	Posted - 2007.02.08 12:36:00 - [57] So, you had done to you what you intended to do to others by camping that system? People jumping into that system are paying customers as well, should they petition if they lose a few ships, especially if they fired first? To answer your question, is it fair? Yes. That is what 0.0 is all about. 0.0 <======= Means you got a pair ;)
Gutsani The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2007.02.08 12:52:00 - [58] O plz .. we hunted em out of gallente space with 2 elite cruisers and a normal cruiser .. and they failed to kill any of us, even though they tried. But, It is unfair that they do not get gate agro .. and that they can do that kinda speed/tank. And those guys didnt really seem to be roleplaying, i tried to smack em roleplay style. I got a cold hard return. You shotten first, own fault you got killed. Learn to use scouts and a scanner ffs. ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy!
James Duar Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.02.08 13:01:00 - [59] They're mercenary commandos. Cold hard professional killers, not hot-blooded Amarrian fanatics. You ****ed 'em off and they dispatched you like so. Just deal with it - you shot first and they killed you. Almost anyone could have shown up like that and killed you - you just drew the short straw and happened to get the one set of guys who would be much more unkillable then a usual camp breaker.
Amira Silvermist The Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.02.08 13:11:00 - [60] Originally by: Gutsani And those guys didnt really seem to be roleplaying, i tried to smack em roleplay style. I got a cold hard return. What did you expect? Flowers? Just because they are not playing as you would like it doesn't mean they are not roleplaying... Amarr racial trait: Nerfbat damage resistance 0%

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