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mrmille	Posted - 2003.12.11 23:18:00 - [1] Is this good or bad? Havn't made up my mind yet. Though, if you are a smart guy/girl it wont take long before you figured out that ccp are loosing players on theese systems. (period) Place your comment regarding this matter, it'd be funny to know what ppl think about this change in such a central system. regads / m. ---------------------------- .-* www.eve.se \| International fansite *-.
Fetty Chico	Posted - 2003.12.12 05:08:00 - [2] consid that mostly jump in camped, they was wasting it anyways ------------------------------------------------ Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly - the ill deeds, along with the good - and let me be judged accordingly. If this world was supposed to be friendly CCP wouldnt have wasted time paying the devs to code so many weapons
Herabec	Posted - 2003.12.12 07:58:00 - [3] Heres what the pirates have to say about it: Biomass reacts to news about Sarum Prime Sorry, I couldn't help myself. :) -Herabec In-Game Forums
Monarch	Posted - 2003.12.12 09:15:00 - [4] Under normal circumstances i would also agree that the carebears won this fight... however, i seriously think that a noob that just made his way to amarr, and doens't even know how to play at all, goes to buy a skill and goes to sarum prime BLAM... just lost whatever stuff he just earned, blah blah blah... yeah, he's going to quit. i'm sure everyone has to agree a little, if we don't get new players in the game, what fun would that be?? might as well be a single player game then... sarum didn't need to have the security changed until they did the highway system, they should have changed it then, it was an obvious error on ccps part.
DREAMWORKS	Posted - 2003.12.12 09:16:00 - [5] What news regarding sarum? gimme a link! __________________________ http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html
Jarjar	Posted - 2003.12.12 09:23:00 - [6] http://myeve.eve-online.com/
Fausto	Posted - 2003.12.12 09:58:00 - [7] When I told that pirates are ruining this game by podding n00bs most of the EVE population thought I'm just flaiming. And now my words are confirmed by CCP actions. Me - Smart Pirates - everything but smart (except cool and good looking) CCP - desperate ______ <brainpodder>
Jebidus Skari	Posted - 2003.12.12 10:04:00 - [8] Well there goes another shred of player driven content. I thought the battle for Sarum Prime was very entertaining at times, seeing how long you could camp before the local police force (PIE inc) would come along and chase us out I think sarum would have become a fantastic hotspot with the coming of the new patch and targetting system but now, because of needless whining, it's going to become another boring part of the universe, like most of it already is
disaster	Posted - 2003.12.12 11:05:00 - [9] Quote: Well there goes another shred of player driven content. I thought the battle for Sarum Prime was very entertaining at times, seeing how long you could camp before the local police force (PIE inc) would come along and chase us out I think sarum would have become a fantastic hotspot with the coming of the new patch and targetting system but now, because of needless whining, it's going to become another boring part of the universe, like most of it already is first.... i think u guys have enough places to hunt for newbees, however i myself tought of it as a sport to go true sarum prime just for the fun and see if i could make it out alive. second.... no one tells any one he has to travel true sarum, because there are ways around it u just have to look for it. and last.... let them do something about the JIP persons who call them selfs pirates, i have done some hunting in 0.0 there u see the real pirates, some times u win some times u loose but there is (in my expirience)almost no flaming from either side, they even compliment each other some times
Blueblooded	Posted - 2003.12.12 11:21:00 - [10] If there could be a fair chance to fight pirats then I wouldn't mind if the Sarum Prime remained a dangerous place. New players should learn to live the game. ---------------------------------------- "The royal blood is blue, hence my name"
Jebidus Skari	Posted - 2003.12.12 11:30:00 - [11] Quote: If there could be a fair chance to fight pirats then I wouldn't mind if the Sarum Prime remained a dangerous place. yeah, that's why I wrote this Quote: I think sarum would have become a fantastic hotspot with the coming of the new patch and targetting system Oh, and there are more than enough battleships pass through sarum to justify camping there unless you think newbs are people who fly anything other than titans. And yeah, Sarum is very easy to avoid but, people don't so they run the risk Lastly, I'd say real pirates are people who make money from heists and hold-ups, where they do it is irrelevant. The game mechanics at the moment make this EXTREMELY difficult and unprofitable but the new patch promises a lot for pirate AND pirate hunters alike.
Fausto	Posted - 2003.12.12 11:38:00 - [12] [quoteThe game mechanics at the moment make this EXTREMELY difficult and unprofitable but the new patch promises a lot for pirate AND pirate hunters alike. You wanted to say for campers and campers alike. Hardly any pirating in blowing up everything that comes your way. You are just a band of blood-thirsty killers not interessted in anything else but satisfying your lowest desires for death and destruction. Haven't done that kind of posting in a while ______ <brainpodder>
Raucus	Posted - 2003.12.12 11:42:00 - [13] Edited by: Raucus on 12/12/2003 11:53:31 Quote: Quote: If there could be a fair chance to fight pirats then I wouldn't mind if the Sarum Prime remained a dangerous place. yeah, that's why I wrote this Quote: I think sarum would have become a fantastic hotspot with the coming of the new patch and targetting system Oh, and there are more than enough battleships pass through sarum to justify camping there unless you think newbs are people who fly anything other than titans. And yeah, Sarum is very easy to avoid but, people don't so they run the risk Lastly, I'd say real pirates are people who make money from heists and hold-ups, where they do it is irrelevant. The game mechanics at the moment make this EXTREMELY difficult and unprofitable but the new patch promises a lot for pirate AND pirate hunters alike. Enough Batttlships travel through to justify what????? Blowing up every n00b ship that passes through. Sarum Prime was a mistake waiting to be put right. n00b Ship in 0.0 are asking for trouble, but n00b ships doing their first couple of missions after joining the game getting chain podded by griefers is not and should have been stopped a long time ago. Good for CCP, about time they did something about this.
Slinky Redfoot	Posted - 2003.12.12 11:44:00 - [14] Quote: You wanted to say for campers and campers alike. Oh, and ofcourse pirate hunters never camp a gate, they always sneak up on you in mid-warp, right? Got Banana?
Trianon Starstealer	Posted - 2003.12.12 11:49:00 - [15] Edited by: Trianon Starstealer on 12/12/2003 11:52:03 Quote: Well there goes another shred of player driven content. I thought the battle for Sarum Prime was very entertaining at times, seeing how long you could camp before the local police force (PIE inc) would come along and chase us out I think sarum would have become a fantastic hotspot with the coming of the new patch and targetting system but now, because of needless whining, it's going to become another boring part of the universe, like most of it already is Needless whining...OMFG..... Continuous podding of n00b ships owned by player who have just joined the game getting owned by *******s in battleships...... People like you are the reson this is nerfed.. your total lack of respect for the game and total inability to respond responsibly to an obvious problem is why this is happening, you areresponsible for this change. Grow the F up and STFU
will9anthony	Posted - 2003.12.12 11:49:00 - [16] i do say we have to take it easy on the newpeople I am back
Trianon Starstealer	Posted - 2003.12.12 11:50:00 - [17] Edited by: Trianon Starstealer on 12/12/2003 11:55:41 Quote: Quote: You wanted to say for campers and campers alike. Oh, and ofcourse pirate hunters never camp a gate, they always sneak up on you in mid-warp, right? No you dumb ****.... pirate hunters do camp the gates.... difference is they tend not to CHAIN POD n00b ships.... have a nice day.... stfu And good for CCP, this is a positive step and hopefully will reduce the number of new players dropping the game because of griefing.
disaster	Posted - 2003.12.12 11:52:00 - [18] me thinks we are going off topic
Jebidus Skari	Posted - 2003.12.12 11:55:00 - [19] Edited by: Jebidus Skari on 12/12/2003 11:57:54 Quote: Enoough Batttlships travel through to justify what????? Blowing up every n00b ship that passes through. Sarum Prime was a mistake waiting to be put right. n00b Ship in 0.0 are asking for trouble, but n00b ships doing their first couple of missions after joining the game getting chain podded by griefers is not and should have been stopped a long time ago. Good for CCP, about time they did something about this. Most n00b ships are spies and they present themselves as such over local chat. You get a warning that entering 0.4 space is dangerous and you safety isn't garaunteed (astonishingly accurate message) even though most have switched it off a very long time ago. If a n00b ignores this warning then it's at his own risk and if he gets ganked he should learn from the experience. And Fausto you haven't a clue, never have, never will so please don't post more ignorant comments Edited for Triannons benefit, structure a meaningful post before trying to tell ME to grow up.
Trianon Starstealer	Posted - 2003.12.12 12:00:00 - [20] Quote: Quote: Enoough Batttlships travel through to justify what????? Blowing up every n00b ship that passes through. Sarum Prime was a mistake waiting to be put right. n00b Ship in 0.0 are asking for trouble, but n00b ships doing their first couple of missions after joining the game getting chain podded by griefers is not and should have been stopped a long time ago. Good for CCP, about time they did something about this. Most n00b ships are spies and they present themselves as such over local chat. You get a warning that entering 0.4 space is dangerous and you safety isn't garaunteed (astonishingly accurate message) even though most have switched it off a very long time ago. If a n00b ignores this warning then it's at his own risk and if he gets ganked he should learn from the experience. And Fausto you haven't a clue, never have, never will so please don't post more ignorant comments In 0.0 I accept that argument. I have a n00b alt just for that reason... and he's ben shot up... thats life in Sarum Prime.... 99% are people doing missions, usually in n00b ships, and they get chain podded.... if you feel that a brief warning (that does not appear if you are on autopilot as most n00bs doing missions are) thats OK then. You and peopel like you as I have said are the reason this is changing... your total lack of respect and inability to react to a situation has forced this change to be made, WELL DONE CCP.
Trianon Starstealer	Posted - 2003.12.12 12:02:00 - [21] Quote: Edited by: Jebidus Skari on 12/12/2003 11:57:54 Quote: Enoough Batttlships travel through to justify what????? Blowing up every n00b ship that passes through. Sarum Prime was a mistake waiting to be put right. n00b Ship in 0.0 are asking for trouble, but n00b ships doing their first couple of missions after joining the game getting chain podded by griefers is not and should have been stopped a long time ago. Good for CCP, about time they did something about this. Most n00b ships are spies and they present themselves as such over local chat. You get a warning that entering 0.4 space is dangerous and you safety isn't garaunteed (astonishingly accurate message) even though most have switched it off a very long time ago. If a n00b ignores this warning then it's at his own risk and if he gets ganked he should learn from the experience. And Fausto you haven't a clue, never have, never will so please don't post more ignorant comments Edited for Triannons benefit, structure a meaningful post before trying to tell ME to grow up. STFU and GROW UP moron...like I said.... you made this happen..... live with it.....
disaster	Posted - 2003.12.12 12:03:00 - [22] sure its at ur own risk... totaly agree on that but let me ask u..what is ur hunting style? just sit and wait at a JIP and start fire as soon some one jumps in? mabye even more nice and use lots of drones, mines and tainers to creata lots of lag? or are u a real pirate and even shoot when u are at a gate even if it is 0.4, 0.5?
disaster	Posted - 2003.12.12 12:04:00 - [23] Edited by: disaster on 12/12/2003 12:06:48 oops double post , my bad
Jebidus Skari	Posted - 2003.12.12 12:10:00 - [24] Edited by: Jebidus Skari on 12/12/2003 12:13:39 Quote: if you feel that a brief warning (that does not appear if you are on autopilot as most n00bs doing missions are) thats OK then. You and peopel like you as I have said are the reason this is changing... your total lack of respect and inability to react to a situation has forced this change to be made, WELL DONE CCP. Well, I have adapted thankyou very much Most people on autopilot get away from jip camping unless HEAVY lag (cans, mines, drones) are ALL out on show. I've never seen that happen in Sarum in the brief period I was there, neither did the polaris frigates that showed to check up on us I go back to saying that getting ganked in a n00b ship should and is a learning experience. It takes very little mining to replace any of the so called "n00b" ships (although I thought they were free ) And lastly again, now you have me defending jip camping something I absolutely hate in this game. I thought the new targetting system in the upcoming patch would make for a VERY interesting change to how Sarum would be pirated and policed but now CCP are yet again taking the easy route and bowing to a minority and destroying what could have been, IMHO, a very interesting system. P.S fed up with this thread now EDITED AGAIN: Quote: STFU and GROW UP moron yes, sounds like I need to do the growing up.
Hardin	Posted - 2003.12.12 12:39:00 - [25] A few points on this: Sarum in the last months has had a few particular days of massive ganking by pirates. But other days there have been very few around and those that have been there have often been locked up in station. I think the original 0.4 rating for the system was a mistake especially as agent missions do route a lot of noobs to the system. at the same time it was quite a nice place to get a bit of action fairly close to the centre of Empire space. Actually I don't think the change will have that much effect as there are still systems nearby such as Hama, Bagodan, Mista which are 0.4 and the pirates and pirate-hunters will simply transfer their efforts to those systems. Frome a roleplay perspective it makes sense that the system - home to the Sarum Navy - is not overrun by PC pirates. TBH I hardly think the redesignation of Sarum one way or another is going to make or break this game!
Makkar	Posted - 2003.12.12 13:00:00 - [26] I quite agree, Hardin. The pirates can just move elsewhere without too muh of a problem. Might have been more of a problem, say, if the surrounding systems were 0.5 or greater, and the sec status of Sarum Prime went up. All those carefully accumulated -10 sec ratings might prove to be problematic in terms of ability to relocate. As has been said many times on this thread, JIP and gate camping, and storming JIP and gate camps, sadly, are currently the only ways to engage in PVP. Hopefully this will change come "Castor", and make the combat (which will still mainly have to take place at gates, because, hell, autopilot doesn't take you on a tour of planets, does it?) a little more tactical. However in the early days there will be an inevitable transition period when everyone's going to be up in arms screaming "OMFG FFS CCP U SUCK!" and other such literary masterpieces, while everyone's learning to play the game again. Can I say that again? *Play* the *game*. Sometimes I think the fact that this is a game is lost under a barrage of smacktalk.
Viceroy	Posted - 2003.12.12 13:22:00 - [27] Well imo, it was too close to starter systems, and should have been 0.5+ in the beggining. But tbh, i think it was more fun with PIE and the PIEats fighting :) They should just remove lvl1 agent missions from 0.4 space, that would have been better. Lots of people need Cookies in this thread -
will9anthony	Posted - 2003.12.12 13:24:00 - [28] Edited by: will9anthony on 12/12/2003 13:24:59 Quote: what is ur hunting style? just sit and wait at a JIP and start fire as soon some one jumps in? is there anyother way to hunt other than camp? I am back
Viceroy	Posted - 2003.12.12 13:48:00 - [29] Quote: Edited by: will9anthony on 12/12/2003 13:24:59 Quote: what is ur hunting style? just sit and wait at a JIP and start fire as soon some one jumps in? is there anyother way to hunt other than camp? yes there is, but its harder, and you cant do it in a group. Aka belt/spawn raiding. -
drunkenmaster	Posted - 2003.12.12 14:16:00 - [30] Quote: Quote: Edited by: will9anthony on 12/12/2003 13:24:59 Quote: what is ur hunting style? just sit and wait at a JIP and start fire as soon some one jumps in? is there anyother way to hunt other than camp? yes there is, but its harder, and you cant do it in a group. Aka belt/spawn raiding. Agreed. Luckily, when the new warp/targetting/invul changes come in, mining in 0.1 to 0.4 is going to be very dangerous. Thus... I hope that's where they put the spod :D .

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