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FHPhantom	Posted - 2007.02.08 10:28:00 - [1] Edited by: FHPhantom on 08/02/2007 10:27:24 Kind of disgusted of what I feel is a glitch in game the use of smartbombs at gates to destroy fast moving shuttles. Yesterday i was poded and pod killed by some internet tough guys from snowy, which i havent any respect for and dont really think anyone does. Now the part that makes us all sick is their use of smartboms during gate camping. Gate camping I can live with its part of game, but the way snowy's girls use it is glitch like in my mind, and a future patch needs to be implimented in order to make this a non issue. I believe shuttles should be safe to travel in, if used properly. but not in this game as the wannabe tough guys from snowy corp have foound a way to bring a hacker like mentality to what I consider a great game. to snowy grow up ok, in RL you wouldnt open your pie hole to me, but u can glitch me and fell tough, remember what comes around goes around. EVE developers please fix this prob. TY p.s. what did u get from my cargo hold, Ill tell everyone zero, 0, nothing, crap, nada, zilch, get the point
s4mp3r0r ZiTek Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.02.08 10:32:00 - [2] lol, they even warned you here
merc999 Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.08 10:38:00 - [3] Quote: believe shuttles should be safe to travel in, Nope, nothing in Eve should be 100% safe to travel in, if you want to play in a total safety zone your in the wrong game. reduce the odds by using a shuttle, sure, and the odds of meeting a smart bombing gate camp are very very small. so your about as safe as you can be. but immune? that takes away the very essence of Eve If you want safety then dont undock.
F Apparition Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.02.08 10:39:00 - [4] Edited by: F Apparition on 08/02/2007 10:36:26 2007.02.07 20:00 Victim: FHPhantom Alliance: NONE Corp: State War Academy Destroyed: Minmatar Shuttle System: Hagilur Security: 0.4 Involved parties: Name: F Apparition (laid the final blow) Security: -10.0 Alliance: NONE Corp: OctoberSnow Corp Ship: Typhoon Weapon: Large YF-12a Smartbomb EDIT: You might've also clued in on what I was doing when you warped BACK to the gate in your pod after being SBed in your shuttle, resulting in another nice killmail for me. Originally by: Lasus If EVE gave you oral sex every time you used it people would still complain.
Marcathonas The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.08 10:40:00 - [5] Normally I have little respect for snowy, but good job on the lovely spot of darwinism. Op: Stop attacking people's RL personalities because you're an idiot in a game. You really look pathetic.
Zaethiel Murder-Death-Kill X-PACT	Posted - 2007.02.08 10:41:00 - [6] Before revelations and low sec mothership piracy, it was pretty safe to travel in low sec. Even with a massively sensor boosted sniper BS smart shuttles could warp out before dieing and most of the time they could warp in at 90 degrees to the BS and slowboat to the gate with decent transversal. So since they made sniping rather useless for low sec gate camping i'm not upset about the use of smartbombs to catch ships you previously used other methods to catch. I wouldn't blame anyone using them in low sec; i would blame CCP for nerfing low sec piracy. _________________________________________
FHPhantom	Posted - 2007.02.08 10:41:00 - [7] I am not saying that 100% saftey is needed, however in RL if u drink clean water its 100% safe, etc so somethings in game should be safe as well, keep to topic please. What I elaborted on was glitching and I consider this topic a glitch, nothing else. To argue otherwise is moronic ok and everyone knows it.
FHPhantom	Posted - 2007.02.08 10:47:00 - [8] Originally by: F Apparition Edited by: F Apparition on 08/02/2007 10:36:26 2007.02.07 20:00 Victim: FHPhantom Alliance: NONE Corp: State War Academy Destroyed: Minmatar Shuttle System: Hagilur Security: 0.4 Involved parties: Name: F Apparition (laid the final blow) Security: -10.0 Alliance: NONE Corp: OctoberSnow Corp Ship: Typhoon Weapon: Large YF-12a Smartbomb EDIT: You might've also clued in on what I was doing when you warped BACK to the gate in your pod after being SBed in your shuttle, resulting in another nice killmail for me. your pathetic you get your rocks off of killing a shuttle, let me tell you this mouth, I am as evil in this game as anyone, however i dont kill or fight anyone unles its man vs man, mano vs mano, face to face, of equil ships. I dont get my rocks off at killing shuttles and ibis. you might as well go rob an old lady in the street then, thats lowlife activity, anyhow you better go change your sheets now mouth ok, seeing you prob got over excited killing a shuttle.
NightmareX Caldari Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.08 10:50:00 - [9] Edited by: NightmareX on 08/02/2007 10:48:08 Originally by: FHPhantom Edited by: FHPhantom on 08/02/2007 10:27:24 p.s. what did u get from my cargo hold, Ill tell everyone zero, 0, nothing, crap, nada, zilch, get the point And you should get the point that they love to kill whatever ship you are in. And Shuttles get killed everyday with frigs etc anyways. And what's the point by this topic?, booohhooo you lost nothing in low sec, you only lost a damn shuttle to 9k isk + a pod LOL Infinidus Odium - We Are The Bringers Of Hatred
FHPhantom	Posted - 2007.02.08 10:52:00 - [10] Killmails The posting of killmails is permitted, however following criteria must be met: a) The name of the victim must be removed or covered up b) The killmail must be posted along with constructive text/content. This means no posting new threads with simply a killmail in it without a comment. to make my point clearer to mr mouth, he cant even follow forum rules, you expect him to follow in game and not look for the AKA wall hacks etc, what a joke
Marcathonas The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.08 10:52:00 - [11] Edited by: Marcathonas on 08/02/2007 10:50:27 Originally by: F Apparition awesomeness Originally by: FHPhantom your pathetic you get your rocks off of killing a shuttle, let me tell you this mouth, I am as evil in this game as anyone, however i dont kill or fight anyone unles its man vs man, mano vs mano, face to face, of equil ships. I dont get my rocks off at killing shuttles and ibis. you might as well go rob an old lady in the street then, thats lowlife aundefinedctivity, anyhow you better go change your sheets now mouth ok, seeing you prob got over excited killing a shuttle. You need to go this way.
FHPhantom	Posted - 2007.02.08 10:53:00 - [12] Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 08/02/2007 10:48:08 Originally by: FHPhantom Edited by: FHPhantom on 08/02/2007 10:27:24 p.s. what did u get from my cargo hold, Ill tell everyone zero, 0, nothing, crap, nada, zilch, get the point And you should get the point that they love to kill whatever ship you are in. And Shuttles get killed everyday with frigs etc anyways. And what's the point by this topic?, booohhooo you lost nothing in low sec, you only lost a damn shuttle to 9k isk + a pod LOL well I lost implants so it wasnt zero loss, i dont lie like the mouth does.
merc999 Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.08 10:58:00 - [13] Shuttles are often used to transport high value goods, such as BPO's etc, they are relatively safe if used correctly, but every ship should have a tactic that can defeat it, even a shuttle. and the best tactic against a shuttle is Smart bombs. After Kali hit we got just about every new tier 3 ship BPO free of charge by using this tactic against shuttles. Now I have spoken out about Snowy and some of their tactics on the past, but on this one they used the game mechanics in exactly the way they were intended. GJ guys.
Don ZOLA Caldari TunDraGon	Posted - 2007.02.08 10:59:00 - [14] even thou i dont respect them myself i must say u deserved it like any other whiny carebear. low empire aint safe and it shouldnt be. learn to live with that or quit. also refraining to rl is weak...
FHPhantom	Posted - 2007.02.08 10:59:00 - [15] Originally by: merc999 Shuttles are often used to transport high value goods, such as BPO's etc, they are relatively safe if used correctly, but every ship should have a tactic that can defeat it, even a shuttle. and the best tactic against a shuttle is Smart bombs. After Kali hit we got just about every new tier 3 ship BPO free of charge by using this tactic against shuttles. Now I have spoken out about Snowy and some of their tactics on the past, but on this one they used the game mechanics in exactly the way they were intended. GJ guys. their use of forum tactics you approve of also? Killmails The posting of killmails is permitted, however following criteria must be met: a) The name of the victim must be removed or covered up b) The killmail must be posted along with constructive text/content. This means no posting new threads with simply a killmail in it without a comment.
Larkonis Trassler g guild	Posted - 2007.02.08 10:59:00 - [16] Warnings were posted about it. If you suspect this sort of thing then warp to a celestial object not between you and the gate on your route and warp from there. Easy. You will miss the smart bombers and be happy. It's called Lowsec for a reason. If you want to travel with a bit more safety then take the few extra few jumps through hisec on your route. ------------ Crow Squad... An Audio and Visual Joygasm by Larkonis Trassler
F Apparition Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:00:00 - [17] Originally by: Marcathonas Edited by: Marcathonas on 08/02/2007 10:50:27 Originally by: F Apparition awesomeness Originally by: FHPhantom your pathetic you get your rocks off of killing a shuttle, let me tell you this mouth, I am as evil in this game as anyone, however i dont kill or fight anyone unles its man vs man, mano vs mano, face to face, of equil ships. I dont get my rocks off at killing shuttles and ibis. you might as well go rob an old lady in the street then, thats lowlife aundefinedctivity, anyhow you better go change your sheets now mouth ok, seeing you prob got over excited killing a shuttle. You need to go this way. I need to play WOW because I said "awesomeness"? I like your logic. Originally by: Lasus If EVE gave you oral sex every time you used it people would still complain.
merc999 Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:01:00 - [18] I was addressing the issues you raised in your OP and following post, the rest of the drivel I ignored
Marcathonas The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:01:00 - [19] Edited by: Marcathonas on 08/02/2007 10:58:06 Originally by: F Apparition I need to play WOW because I said "awesomeness"? I like your logic. No, your quote was only there while I tried to fix it from stupid itallicy doom. Cap'n Carebear needs to go to WoW, not you
NightmareX Caldari Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:01:00 - [20] Originally by: FHPhantom Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 08/02/2007 10:48:08 Originally by: FHPhantom Edited by: FHPhantom on 08/02/2007 10:27:24 p.s. what did u get from my cargo hold, Ill tell everyone zero, 0, nothing, crap, nada, zilch, get the point And you should get the point that they love to kill whatever ship you are in. And Shuttles get killed everyday with frigs etc anyways. And what's the point by this topic?, booohhooo you lost nothing in low sec, you only lost a damn shuttle to 9k isk + a pod LOL So what?, your in low sec, so you can't expect to be safe even in a Shuttle there. well I lost implants so it wasnt zero loss, i dont lie like the mouth does. Infinidus Odium - We Are The Bringers Of Hatred
Riho Red Wrath Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:02:00 - [21] hahaha.... i love those kind of guys like the OP :) might acctually come back to low sec and start pirtaing again :) starting whit the OP :P 0.0 is fun... but doesnt generate as much whine and hate as lowsec :) Great being Gallente... aint it ?
FHPhantom	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:02:00 - [22] Originally by: Don ZOLA even thou i dont respect them myself i must say u deserved it like any other whiny carebear. low empire aint safe and it shouldnt be. learn to live with that or quit. also refraining to rl is weak... carebear I doubt it, so its ok to noob fish then? If I do that why do the do godders come along and chirp in and destroy cargo then? Ill answer that cause its morally the right thing to do ok. I am a man of honor, A caldari of honor plain and simple.
F Apparition Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:03:00 - [23] Originally by: Marcathonas Edited by: Marcathonas on 08/02/2007 10:58:29 Originally by: F Apparition I need to play WOW because I said "awesomeness"? I like your logic. No, your quote was only there while I tried to fix it from stupid itallicy doom. Cap'n Carebear needs to go to WoW, not you Right. Oh, and to the OP in question, I changed my km in accordance to the forum rules. Originally by: Lasus If EVE gave you oral sex every time you used it people would still complain.
Marcathonas The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:04:00 - [24] Originally by: FHPhantom Originally by: Don ZOLA even thou i dont respect them myself i must say u deserved it like any other whiny carebear. low empire aint safe and it shouldnt be. learn to live with that or quit. also refraining to rl is weak... carebear I doubt it, so its ok to noob fish then? If I do that why do the do godders come along and chirp in and destroy cargo then? Ill answer that cause its morally the right thing to do ok. I am a man of honor, A caldari of honor plain and simple. Yes, because shuttles drop BPO's, as explained above. I doubt they actually went OMG A SHUTTLE LETS GANKZ0R IT WHEEE, when gatecamping you simply kill everything. That's all there is. Oh, and stupidity != honour. Whining on forums about sploitz and lamers != honour.
Electric Cucumber Amarr Beagle Corp	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:05:00 - [25] Originally by: FHPhantom EVE developers please fix this prob. TY Instead of wasting the DEV's time, i have a simple fix to your problem FHPhantom... My account > subscription details > cancel subscription
Mishikal	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:06:00 - [26] To the OP, what a very well constructed arguement you have presented here... /sarcasm off You truly believe that a shuttle should be a safe mode of travel? You're living a dream my friend - Eve was never meant to be safe, it's a trait which sets it apart from the run of the mill MMO's on the market. I think we can rest assured that the developers have enough common sense not to listen to such pathetic whine from people such as the OP. If you can't handle low-sec and the danger therein - do not go there, it's quite simple!
merc999 Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:07:00 - [27] Jeez guy.. You lost a ship (ship type is not relevant)to a valid game tactic. came on the forum and whined about it, and now getting all het up because your getting flamed. If Snowy had utalised an exploit or a bug then the responses would have been very different. Snowy is not the most popular corps on this forum and many would love to take the opportunity to smack them down on the forums, but all you have done so far is actually get them some support. way to go guy , now thats an achievement
FHPhantom	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:08:00 - [28] Originally by: F Apparition Originally by: Marcathonas Edited by: Marcathonas on 08/02/2007 10:58:29 Originally by: F Apparition I need to play WOW because I said "awesomeness"? I like your logic. No, your quote was only there while I tried to fix it from stupid itallicy doom. Cap'n Carebear needs to go to WoW, not you Right. well ty for abiding by the rules that I can respect. I live by an Honor code, Some liken me to a young capt kirk, on that note I say good fighting to all, now lets get back to having fun in the game. I apologise if I came across to anyone as whining, that wasnt my intent, I just play face to face in this game that is all. Oh, and to the OP in question, I changed my km in accordance to the forum rules.
F Apparition Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:09:00 - [29] Originally by: FHPhantom Originally by: F Apparition Originally by: Marcathonas Edited by: Marcathonas on 08/02/2007 10:58:29 Originally by: F Apparition I need to play WOW because I said "awesomeness"? I like your logic. No, your quote was only there while I tried to fix it from stupid itallicy doom. Cap'n Carebear needs to go to WoW, not you Right. well ty for abiding by the rules that I can respect. I live by an Honor code, Some liken me to a young capt kirk, on that note I say good fighting to all, now lets get back to having fun in the game. I apologise if I came across to anyone as whining, that wasnt my intent, I just play face to face in this game that is all. Oh, and to the OP in question, I changed my km in accordance to the forum rules. Understandable. Remember that people in the eve-o forums delight in highlighting anything they deem as stupid. And next time, there's a simple way of avoiding smartbombs. Warp in from a different point. Make a SS between a planet and another neaby object, warp to that and then the gate. No killmail for me. Originally by: Lasus If EVE gave you oral sex every time you used it people would still complain.
FHPhantom	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:12:00 - [30] Originally by: F Apparition Originally by: FHPhantom Originally by: F Apparition Originally by: Marcathonas Edited by: Marcathonas on 08/02/2007 10:58:29 Originally by: F Apparition I need to play WOW because I said "awesomeness"? I like your logic. No, your quote was only there while I tried to fix it from stupid itallicy doom. Cap'n Carebear needs to go to WoW, not you Right. I know just couldnt be bothered at that time, actually didnt think I was target because i knew u scanned my ship and saw nothing. no big deal bro. gl in your future gameing here. well ty for abiding by the rules that I can respect. I live by an Honor code, Some liken me to a young capt kirk, on that note I say good fighting to all, now lets get back to having fun in the game. I apologise if I came across to anyone as whining, that wasnt my intent, I just play face to face in this game that is all. Oh, and to the OP in question, I changed my km in accordance to the forum rules. Understandable. Remember that people in the eve-o forums delight in highlighting anything they deem as stupid. And next time, there's a simple way of avoiding smartbombs. Warp in from a different point. Make a SS between a planet and another neaby object, warp to that and then the gate. No killmail for me.
Saint Schala Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:14:00 - [31] Edited by: Saint Schala on 08/02/2007 11:14:46 With mission runners near invincible out of 0.0 warp to zero nerfed piracey big time.Pirates have adapted and piracey in low sec is alive and well. Better even!!! But this isnt the only nerf pirates/pvpers have suffered. once apon a time thier was no gate guns, they nerfed that. Ships had low hp, they nefed that. missiles did uber dsmamge to ceptors and cruisers. they nerfed the instapopping of these ships. you couls snipe at gares. they nerfed that. i could go on. ccp seem on a crusade to make the game as safe as possable for carebares mission runners etc eve is pvp!! eve isnt safe!!.....(yet) now you want smartbombs nerfed aswell. I say well done to Ginger Tiller and co. nice way of adapting to a nerf. us pirates have become increacingly good at it, we adapt to change well. thats why we are still here! Thats why we will ALWAYS find new and cleaver ways of popping winging carebares who want a new fantastic game created for them called EvEwow. Ginger once said to me that now thier is a warp to zero shuttles will be invincable. Im glad u proved yourself wrong Nice one guys keep piracey in low sec alive.
FHZarrak	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:16:00 - [32] Edited by: FHZarrak on 08/02/2007 11:21:04 phantom is just sore that he lost his implants, he is new to the game like myself and we were meeting up with some freinds to go out and do some things ..he had alreads made lots of jumps to get to were he was. and was already not wanting to come in fear of loosing his implants. looks like he was right to worry he is normaly a straight up guy so please excuse his rantings on here . he shold not have been were he was but equally in my opinion it is sad to pop a noob in a shuttle .what is there to gain from it? ive seen people dropping canisters outside stations in the hopes of new players to pick them up . sad really. piracy should be piracy IMO...for financial and corporal gain not popping nubs for the hell of it.
Zaethiel Murder-Death-Kill X-PACT	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:22:00 - [33] Originally by: FHPhantom I am not saying that 100% saftey is needed, however in RL if u drink clean water its 100% safe, etc so somethings in game should be safe as well, keep to topic please. What I elaborted on was glitching and I consider this topic a glitch, nothing else. To argue otherwise is moronic ok and everyone knows it. Hey that one lady died about a month ago after drinking a bunch of water for that radio contest in America. Water Intoxication. Sad story. http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/13/water.intox.ap/index.html _________________________________________
FHPhantom	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:31:00 - [34] Originally by: FHZarrak Edited by: FHZarrak on 08/02/2007 11:21:04 phantom is just sore that he lost his implants, he is new to the game like myself and we were meeting up with some freinds to go out and do some things ..he had alreads made lots of jumps to get to were he was. and was already not wanting to come in fear of loosing his implants. looks like he was right to worry he is normaly a straight up guy so please excuse his rantings on here . he shold not have been were he was but equally in my opinion it is sad to pop a noob in a shuttle .what is there to gain from it? ive seen people dropping canisters outside stations in the hopes of new players to pick them up . sad really. piracy should be piracy IMO...for financial and corporal gain not popping nubs for the hell of it. Well new on this act I am as well as you. But it made no sense using my old act of 3 months seeing now u hadnt need to goto certain learning levels to attain secondary learning books. However words of wisdom my freind words of wisdom u post, you too are a man of Honor.
FHPhantom	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:33:00 - [35] Originally by: FHZarrak Edited by: FHZarrak on 08/02/2007 11:21:04 phantom is just sore that he lost his implants, he is new to the game like myself and we were meeting up with some freinds to go out and do some things ..he had alreads made lots of jumps to get to were he was. and was already not wanting to come in fear of loosing his implants. looks like he was right to worry he is normaly a straight up guy so please excuse his rantings on here . he shold not have been were he was but equally in my opinion it is sad to pop a noob in a shuttle .what is there to gain from it? ive seen people dropping canisters outside stations in the hopes of new players to pick them up . sad really. piracy should be piracy IMO...for financial and corporal gain not popping nubs for the hell of it. Words of wisdom my freind words of wisdom. New not excactly my other act 3 months, no use in using it seeing now to attain secondary learning skills doesnt require lev 5, and the new charter foramtions, just to make that clear.
Otto Torivus Species 5618	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:47:00 - [36] In space no one can hear you scream...
deathforge The Accursed	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:54:00 - [37] Originally by: FHPhantom I am not saying that 100% saftey is needed, however in RL if u drink clean water its 100% safe, etc so somethings in game should be safe as well, keep to topic please. What I elaborted on was glitching and I consider this topic a glitch, nothing else. To argue otherwise is moronic ok and everyone knows it. No it isn't, you might get hit by a bus while drinking that water. Low skillpoint Rifter piracy video
DarkElf Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.02.08 12:58:00 - [38] OMG stop your whining!! nothing should be safe in low sec. that's the whole idea. SB's are the only way to really kills shuttles at gates and aren't that easy to use. If you want safety try WOW!!!!!! DE
stoats Viziam	Posted - 2007.02.08 13:01:00 - [39] Gotta kill a lot of shuttles to make up for those losses at the POS the other day Get a gang together and take them out, if a good number of the BS are only fitting smartbombs + getting boosted by ginger's carrier it shouldn't be that difficult.
Riho Red Wrath Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.02.08 13:01:00 - [40] Originally by: FHZarrak Edited by: FHZarrak on 08/02/2007 11:21:04 phantom is just sore that he lost his implants, he is new to the game like myself and we were meeting up with some freinds to go out and do some things ..he had alreads made lots of jumps to get to were he was. and was already not wanting to come in fear of loosing his implants. looks like he was right to worry he is normaly a straight up guy so please excuse his rantings on here . he shold not have been were he was but equally in my opinion it is sad to pop a noob in a shuttle .what is there to gain from it? ive seen people dropping canisters outside stations in the hopes of new players to pick them up . sad really. piracy should be piracy IMO...for financial and corporal gain not popping nubs for the hell of it. guess u havent read the thread..... people transport alot of valuble(SP) stuff whit shuttles... like BPOs and implants and so on. so ur point on nothing to gain from killing a shuttle is invalid. and i think ur a alt of this phantom.. ur names are damn similar :P Great being Gallente... aint it ?
tiller OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.02.08 13:03:00 - [41] This thread makes tiller very happy. There are a few easy ways to avoid the WTZ bombers that include - 1. Scout the gate long range first and pick a warp in point away from the bomber ship 2. Use a assault frig with good resists and plate or extenders (though you will need istabs to avoid getting tackled after jump in :-) 3. Pay me when you jump into my system Some ways not to get around the WTZ bomber - 1. Whine about it on forums 2. Petition it for being OMGWTFHAXORZZZzzzz 3. Smack us in local about it Visit the no.2 PVPer in eve : October-Snow.com
tiller OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.02.08 13:06:00 - [42] Originally by: stoats Gotta kill a lot of shuttles to make up for those losses at the POS the other day Get a gang together and take them out, if a good number of the BS are only fitting smartbombs + getting boosted by ginger's carrier it shouldn't be that difficult. The bomber BS need no boosting from anyone and of course always wear as many stabs as the ship will allow :-) Visit the no.2 PVPer in eve : October-Snow.com
DarkElf Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.02.08 13:10:00 - [43] Originally by: tiller Originally by: stoats Gotta kill a lot of shuttles to make up for those losses at the POS the other day Get a gang together and take them out, if a good number of the BS are only fitting smartbombs + getting boosted by ginger's carrier it shouldn't be that difficult. The bomber BS need no boosting from anyone and of course always wear as many stabs as the ship will allow :-) Yeah that's the point. difficult to kill because they're the only combat bs that can run efficiently with full stabs. rokh with shield tank, sb's and full stabs is very effective. i wish i didn't have this big moral dilema with fitting stabs tbh DE
zwerg Caldari OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.02.08 13:16:00 - [44] zZzzZzzzzz.... 1st thing i really have to say is: PWNT! 2nd thing i really have to say is: WTZ? AND STILL CRY? PWNT! 3rd thing i really have to ask is: was it you in bei local whining about "i will write petition im not sure wether they are allowed to gate camp there without getting concorded" i mean alone the sentence is funny but then "concorded" Save the whales!!! Harpoon some Amarrians!!!! It's great being minmatard isnt it?!
Zandramus Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.02.08 13:18:00 - [45] One of my corpmates was sniping in tama and popped a shuttle blew up a halo omega and looted a snake omega dont blame people at all for killing shuttles
FHPhantom	Posted - 2007.02.08 13:18:00 - [46] point taken i concur, just factual info a quick scan of shuttle and u see whats in it pas targeter, ship scan etc which reveled nothing that was my point, why get all pumped up over killing a shuttle with nothing in it that was point. no prob move on and live and learn.
tiller OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.02.08 13:20:00 - [47] Edited by: tiller on 08/02/2007 13:17:05 Originally by: FHPhantom point taken i concur, just factual info a quick scan of shuttle and u see whats in it pas targeter, ship scan etc which reveled nothing that was my point, why get all pumped up over killing a shuttle with nothing in it that was point. no prob move on and live and learn. You think there is time to cargo scan a shuttle on WTZ ? We're not just in it for the isk m8, it's fun to destroy what is yours and watch the fireworks tbh. Visit the no.2 PVPer in eve : October-Snow.com
FHPhantom	Posted - 2007.02.08 13:22:00 - [48] Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 08/02/2007 13:17:05 Originally by: FHPhantom point taken i concur, just factual info a quick scan of shuttle and u see whats in it pas targeter, ship scan etc which reveled nothing that was my point, why get all pumped up over killing a shuttle with nothing in it that was point. no prob move on and live and learn. You think there is time to cargo scan a shuttle on WTZ ? We're not just in it for the isk m8, it's fun to destroy what is yours and watch the fireworks tbh. I agree like it myself my bad for venting.
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.02.08 13:23:00 - [49] own3d thread over please carry nicer things in your shuttle k thnx bye Half Assed Rhymage
tiller OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.02.08 13:25:00 - [50] Originally by: FHPhantom Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 08/02/2007 13:17:05 Originally by: FHPhantom point taken i concur, just factual info a quick scan of shuttle and u see whats in it pas targeter, ship scan etc which reveled nothing that was my point, why get all pumped up over killing a shuttle with nothing in it that was point. no prob move on and live and learn. You think there is time to cargo scan a shuttle on WTZ ? We're not just in it for the isk m8, it's fun to destroy what is yours and watch the fireworks tbh. I agree like it myself my bad for venting. It's ok, guess it's a shock when it first happens to you... You can tell people dont expect it as there pods just sit there afterwards thinking wtf. Visit the no.2 PVPer in eve : October-Snow.com
FHPhantom	Posted - 2007.02.08 13:32:00 - [51] well wasnt first time bro played 3 months before new version. I like it, nothing wrong was done, i hit esc and logged off asap thats what suprised me when i logged in i didnt have time to warp even it was bout 6 on 1 but its cool. Ive been podded before wont be last time and I have also podded and that wont be last time either no mercy rule in effect for me as well anymore.
kill0rbunny Caldari Chimera Intelligence Agency	Posted - 2007.02.08 13:38:00 - [52] Sad how people make complete fools of themselves on the forums and don't even notice. Was this whinywhiny really neccessary? - I got a portrait now, wheeeee! \o/
FHPhantom	Posted - 2007.02.08 13:44:00 - [53] Originally by: kill0rbunny Sad how people make complete fools of themselves on the forums and don't even notice. Was this whinywhiny really neccessary? I agree, but didnt really see anyone whine, just good chat, no harm no foul.
Alowishus OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.02.08 14:41:00 - [54] You pretty much accused us of exploiting. Which is funny. Other than that your comments were not atypical of people who are angry they got popped by us.
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.02.08 15:48:00 - [55] Welcome to EvE FHPhantom. Remember the name of the person who ganked you and plot your revenge! I remember my first loss - And the satisfaction of returning the favor! --
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.02.08 15:53:00 - [56] Originally by: Lord WarATron Welcome to EvE FHPhantom. Remember the name of the person who ganked you and plot your revenge! I remember my first loss - And the satisfaction of returning the favor! My first killer isn't all that active anymore Half Assed Rhymage
Rodrigo Valon Gallente Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.02.08 16:58:00 - [57] Originally by: tiller It's ok, guess it's a shock when it first happens to you... You can tell people dont expect it as there pods just sit there afterwards thinking wtf. Believe me, it's not always that. You guys got me yesterday, probably same camp as got the OP. Probably gonna set my gameplay back a month or two, BTW. But the way it worked for me is that when I warped in, I got two frames - each lasting about 3 seconds. One frame with everyone flashing red on overview, and my ship down to maybe a tenth of struct - while still in warp and 1700 m from the gate. Since I'm still in warp, nothing to interact with. Second frame of animation - im in a pod. No fireworks. Also in struct. Also still in warp. Also still can't jump. Then I'm in my clone's station. Not writing to vent or point fingers. The game is what it is. Just thought you'd like to know. Also, that's the first time my compy has lagged substantially, I'm sure from all the wrecks and smartbomb fx. So it's a pretty unpleasant experience. Now that I know, I'm warning everyone I can. And one day, I'll getchya back for it in game.
Dr Slice OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.02.08 17:18:00 - [58] Originally by: Rodrigo Valon Originally by: tiller It's ok, guess it's a shock when it first happens to you... You can tell people dont expect it as there pods just sit there afterwards thinking wtf. Believe me, it's not always that. You guys got me yesterday, probably same camp as got the OP. Probably gonna set my gameplay back a month or two, BTW. But the way it worked for me is that when I warped in, I got two frames - each lasting about 3 seconds. One frame with everyone flashing red on overview, and my ship down to maybe a tenth of struct - while still in warp and 1700 m from the gate. Since I'm still in warp, nothing to interact with. Second frame of animation - im in a pod. No fireworks. Also in struct. Also still in warp. Also still can't jump. Then I'm in my clone's station. Not writing to vent or point fingers. The game is what it is. Just thought you'd like to know. Also, that's the first time my compy has lagged substantially, I'm sure from all the wrecks and smartbomb fx. So it's a pretty unpleasant experience. Now that I know, I'm warning everyone I can. And one day, I'll getchya back for it in game. You lost a Rifter...thats going to set you back a couple of months? What was in your cargo?
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.02.08 17:20:00 - [59] Originally by: Dr Slice Originally by: Rodrigo Valon Originally by: tiller It's ok, guess it's a shock when it first happens to you... You can tell people dont expect it as there pods just sit there afterwards thinking wtf. Believe me, it's not always that. You guys got me yesterday, probably same camp as got the OP. Probably gonna set my gameplay back a month or two, BTW. But the way it worked for me is that when I warped in, I got two frames - each lasting about 3 seconds. One frame with everyone flashing red on overview, and my ship down to maybe a tenth of struct - while still in warp and 1700 m from the gate. Since I'm still in warp, nothing to interact with. Second frame of animation - im in a pod. No fireworks. Also in struct. Also still in warp. Also still can't jump. Then I'm in my clone's station. Not writing to vent or point fingers. The game is what it is. Just thought you'd like to know. Also, that's the first time my compy has lagged substantially, I'm sure from all the wrecks and smartbomb fx. So it's a pretty unpleasant experience. Now that I know, I'm warning everyone I can. And one day, I'll getchya back for it in game. You lost a Rifter...thats going to set you back a couple of months? What was in your cargo? A pregnant exotic dancer I assume. So it would take him a couple months to get one of his own again. Half Assed Rhymage
DarkElf Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.02.08 17:23:00 - [60] Originally by: Rodrigo Valon Originally by: tiller It's ok, guess it's a shock when it first happens to you... You can tell people dont expect it as there pods just sit there afterwards thinking wtf. Believe me, it's not always that. You guys got me yesterday, probably same camp as got the OP. Probably gonna set my gameplay back a month or two, BTW. But the way it worked for me is that when I warped in, I got two frames - each lasting about 3 seconds. One frame with everyone flashing red on overview, and my ship down to maybe a tenth of struct - while still in warp and 1700 m from the gate. Since I'm still in warp, nothing to interact with. Second frame of animation - im in a pod. No fireworks. Also in struct. Also still in warp. Also still can't jump. Then I'm in my clone's station. Not writing to vent or point fingers. The game is what it is. Just thought you'd like to know. Also, that's the first time my compy has lagged substantially, I'm sure from all the wrecks and smartbomb fx. So it's a pretty unpleasant experience. Now that I know, I'm warning everyone I can. And one day, I'll getchya back for it in game. So your saying you saw in local that there was a lod of pirates in system and u didn't scout the gate first? mmmmmmmmm lesson learnt i hope DE
Lucifer Fellblade Ore Mongers SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.08 17:55:00 - [61] Edited by: Lucifer Fellblade on 08/02/2007 17:52:51 Don't really see why people bother going anywhere near hagilur anymore, I mean, everybody knows it's camped by SNOWY, so only reason to go there is if your gonna kill them. I have to say again, good job on adapting to suit the times once again. ------
Rodrigo Valon Gallente Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.02.08 17:58:00 - [62] Obviously, it's easy to play Monday morning Quarterback here, but I've been in plenty of low-sec systems with pirates, and gate camps. And I've blown by them. In scouting them, I saw that they weren't using bubbles, which based on everyone I spoke with (including several people based in 0.0 for months), and everything I've read on these forums over the past few months, were the only things that beat WTZ. Obviously, I know there's something else now. I doubt as many people know about the effectiveness of smartbombs as you realize.
Dr Slice OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.02.08 18:00:00 - [63] Originally by: Rodrigo Valon Obviously, it's easy to play Monday morning Quarterback here, but I've been in plenty of low-sec systems with pirates, and gate camps. And I've blown by them. In scouting them, I saw that they weren't using bubbles, which based on everyone I spoke with (including several people based in 0.0 for months), and everything I've read on these forums over the past few months, were the only things that beat WTZ. Obviously, I know there's something else now. I doubt as many people know about the effectiveness of smartbombs as you realize. Bubbles cannot be used in low sec, FYI.
Rodrigo Valon Gallente Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.02.08 18:04:00 - [64] Originally by: Dr Slice You lost a Rifter...thats going to set you back a couple of months? What was in your cargo? And implants. Right now, I can afford to replace my implants, or get a ship that will let me replace my implants sometime in the next two months. I can't afford both. Only 2.7 SP here. Don't mean to QQ, but since you asked.
Rodrigo Valon Gallente Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.02.08 18:05:00 - [65] Originally by: Dr Slice Originally by: Rodrigo Valon Obviously, it's easy to play Monday morning Quarterback here, but I've been in plenty of low-sec systems with pirates, and gate camps. And I've blown by them. In scouting them, I saw that they weren't using bubbles, which based on everyone I spoke with (including several people based in 0.0 for months), and everything I've read on these forums over the past few months, were the only things that beat WTZ. Obviously, I know there's something else now. I doubt as many people know about the effectiveness of smartbombs as you realize. Bubbles cannot be used in low sec, FYI. Right. Didn't think smartbombs could be used on gates for the same reason. With all those concord messages directed towards you guys, didn't think you'd be alive. Alas, the thing about sentries didn't seem to be in my manual.
Dr Slice OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.02.08 18:15:00 - [66] Originally by: Rodrigo Valon Originally by: Dr Slice Originally by: Rodrigo Valon Obviously, it's easy to play Monday morning Quarterback here, but I've been in plenty of low-sec systems with pirates, and gate camps. And I've blown by them. In scouting them, I saw that they weren't using bubbles, which based on everyone I spoke with (including several people based in 0.0 for months), and everything I've read on these forums over the past few months, were the only things that beat WTZ. Obviously, I know there's something else now. I doubt as many people know about the effectiveness of smartbombs as you realize. Bubbles cannot be used in low sec, FYI. Right. Didn't think smartbombs could be used on gates for the same reason. With all those concord messages directed towards you guys, didn't think you'd be alive. Alas, the thing about sentries didn't seem to be in my manual. Basically, you have to separate high sec from low sec, from 0.0, it seems you are blending some of the game mechanics from the three categories. In low sec, the only limited protection you have are sentry guns around stations and gates. There is no Concord (ship) presence in low sec to come to the rescue. Bubbles can only be dropped in 0.0 Obviously in high sec, you get the most protection from both sentry guns and Concord presence. You can still be suicided in high sec though, so really the only safe place in Eve is inside a station.
Rodrigo Valon Gallente Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.02.08 18:22:00 - [67] Right, I understood that. What I didn't understand, and what I don't think anyone can know for sure without first hand experience (or happening onto it on these forums), is that a sentry gun reaction is tankable, while Concord totally isn't. Since we're all so helpful ( ) , what happens when you try to launch a bubble in empire (either sec)? I thought it was just concord that came to stop it, but if they don't come in lowsec, it must be something else.
Waxau Liberty Rogues Coalition of Carebear Killers	Posted - 2007.02.08 18:28:00 - [68] You cant lay/launch a bubble in low sec - its against the game mechanics. Its that simple : And can someone please post the exact stuff the OP said at the beginning? I love the whole 'whiney' threads, but he removed it :(
Azerrad InExile	Posted - 2007.02.08 19:42:00 - [69] Originally by: Waxau You cant lay/launch a bubble in low sec - its against the game mechanics. Its that simple : And can someone please post the exact stuff the OP said at the beginning? I love the whole 'whiney' threads, but he removed it :( Its a shame he removed it.. it was an excellent example of a "I got killed, fix it CCP!!1" post. Luckily the fine folks at eve-search have it availible: http://www.eve-search.com/index.dxd?thread=472441
Azerrad InExile	Posted - 2007.02.08 19:42:00 - [70] Originally by: Waxau You cant lay/launch a bubble in low sec - its against the game mechanics. Its that simple : And can someone please post the exact stuff the OP said at the beginning? I love the whole 'whiney' threads, but he removed it :( Its a shame he removed it.. it was an excellent example of a "I got killed, fix it CCP!!1" post. Luckily the fine folks at eve-search have it availible: http://www.eve-search.com/index.dxd?thread=472441
DarkElf Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.02.08 19:50:00 - [71] Originally by: Rodrigo Valon what happens when you try to launch a bubble in empire (either sec)? I thought it was just concord that came to stop it, but if they don't come in lowsec, it must be something else. it's not just that it's a crime to do it. you simply can not do it. DE
DarkElf Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.02.08 19:50:00 - [72] Originally by: Rodrigo Valon what happens when you try to launch a bubble in empire (either sec)? I thought it was just concord that came to stop it, but if they don't come in lowsec, it must be something else. it's not just that it's a crime to do it. you simply can not do it. DE
Agent Li Galactic Defence Consortium	Posted - 2007.02.08 20:04:00 - [73] You would think that with all that money, the OP would have the clout to buy his own Titan (or fleet thereof, to arm his friends with), and then they could show up wherever Snowy happened to be, and fry them himself - why trust this to mercs, or to an obvious alt?
Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.08 21:04:00 - [74] I was attacked by piwats in egghelende!!1 waaaah \o/ [OMG! CURRENTLY RECRUITING!]

Conuion Meow Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.02.08 21:11:00 - [75] As the OP has been removed. I am locking this thread. Forum Rules \| E-Mail us! (Report a bad post) \| Sexeh CRC Website! aka Onion -Eldo


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