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Jazmyne Lee	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:00:00 - [1] I know i am going to upset so many people out there that are doing this. I also will lose all my money once ccp works this out i dont like the idea but i guss this game is about sharing, I just hope i get a name for it or even a thank you. OK With the revelations patch came a change that makes more isk them i can dream and i can even do it in a Cyclone. Step 1) find a group of level3 ageins i found brutor tribe to be the best for this as there is alot of level3 agents within 3 jumps of one another. Step 2) Buy a Sansha's Silver tag it cost me 2.5mil. then get a mission called Massive Attack very easy to tank as they dish to types of damage. Also pick up the loot and salvage some days i can make 4mill or 20mill off slavage and loot. Step 3) GET the mission with every level3 agent you can find i found 6 agents. i have 3 alt's thats a alot of missions. Kill ya standing but saying no till ya get it dont matter much. step 4) fly all the mission now in the last area with the overseer dont shot anything have the tag and go to the overseer's gate and go throw. There is a building there with a +3 implate inside it. grab it and clean the rats out for more isk. fly to station and sale it do this with every agent then after downtime do it all again. 6 agents 6 +3 implates a day. i can make 3 rigs a week from salvage. and 60mil to 100mil a day off implates. Also one last thing the mission last over 4 days so you can work on it for a long time the silver tag dont run out can reuse it. and i also found a BS in there one out 5 missions can get a nice bit of loot off him. I no the min i add this CCP will PATCH IT and i will be broke but well i see it as a bug i got away with for almost 3 weeks now and i just hope that if ccp finds the time to fix this they can find the time to reply to my lose BS. P.S. i have not read forum rules i hope i have not broken any.
Leandro Salazar Aeon Industries Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:12:00 - [2] I think you have a wrong perception of what good money is. What you describe is simple mission farming, and the one you farm isn't even close to the best ones. But good to see they finally fixed the overseer stash dropping nothing in that mission. --------- ZOMG my sig was concordokkened! Link removed due to bad language on remote site. -wystler
Seriya Caldari Phoenix Knights	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:37:00 - [3] This is a reasonable farming strategy, it's not really broken.
Jazmyne Lee	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:39:00 - [4] Ok most i done was 15missions in a row just under 40mins a mission sold all the +3's for 17mil each. thats 255mil So for one person to make in 0.7 system in one day with out loot mining or LP thats good i say. but yes there is better paying the good thing is this one is fast to finish and very easy to tank.
Yakia TovilToba	Posted - 2007.02.08 13:44:00 - [5] They really should remove the implant then. Didn't see one when i did lvl 3s back then - but if there is one this tactics might caus drop lvl 3 implants in value - unless its always the same implant, like charisma or such, then only this type of implant will become almost unsellable.
Kumu Honua	Posted - 2007.02.08 14:30:00 - [6] They should not remove the implant. They should remove the ability to farm missions.
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.02.08 15:03:00 - [7] If the OP regards this as good money, I would like to see what the OP regards 10/10 plex's like....... --
Egil Kolsto Caldari Collwood Collective	Posted - 2007.02.08 15:28:00 - [8] Originally by: Jazmyne Lee Step 1) find a group of level3 ageins i found brutor tribe to be the best for this as there is alot of level3 agents within 3 jumps of one another. Step 2) Buy a Sansha's Silver tag it cost me 2.5mil. then get a mission called Massive Attack very easy to tank as they dish to types of damage. Also pick up the loot and salvage some days i can make 4mill or 20mill off slavage and loot. Step 3) GET the mission with every level3 agent you can find i found 6 agents. i have 3 alt's thats a alot of missions. Kill ya standing but saying no till ya get it dont matter much. step 4) fly all the mission now in the last area with the overseer dont shot anything have the tag and go to the overseer's gate and go throw. There is a building there with a +3 implate inside it. grab it and clean the rats out for more isk. fly to station and sale it And to avoid loosing any faction at all, at the end of 7th time you run the mission complete it? I am not sure why you need to loose faction. Instead of refusing every mission, just refuse one every 4 hours until you get the one you want?
Danh	Posted - 2007.02.08 17:34:00 - [9] Originally by: Egil Kolsto And to avoid loosing any faction at all, at the end of 7th time you run the mission complete it? I am not sure why you need to loose faction. Instead of refusing every mission, just refuse one every 4 hours until you get the one you want? He'd be losing faction by turning down multiple missions to get the same mission again after finally completing it.
Ryan Scouse'UK	Posted - 2007.02.08 18:44:00 - [10] Originally by: Jazmyne Lee I know i am going to upset so many people out there that are doing this. I also will lose all my money once ccp works this out i dont like the idea but i guss this game is about sharing, I just hope i get a name for it or even a thank you. OK With the revelations patch came a change that makes more isk them i can dream and i can even do it in a Cyclone. Step 1) find a group of level3 ageins i found brutor tribe to be the best for this as there is alot of level3 agents within 3 jumps of one another. Step 2) Buy a Sansha's Silver tag it cost me 2.5mil. then get a mission called Massive Attack very easy to tank as they dish to types of damage. Also pick up the loot and salvage some days i can make 4mill or 20mill off slavage and loot. Step 3) GET the mission with every level3 agent you can find i found 6 agents. i have 3 alt's thats a alot of missions. Kill ya standing but saying no till ya get it dont matter much. step 4) fly all the mission now in the last area with the overseer dont shot anything have the tag and go to the overseer's gate and go throw. There is a building there with a +3 implate inside it. grab it and clean the rats out for more isk. fly to station and sale it do this with every agent then after downtime do it all again. 6 agents 6 +3 implates a day. i can make 3 rigs a week from salvage. and 60mil to 100mil a day off implates. Also one last thing the mission last over 4 days so you can work on it for a long time the silver tag dont run out can reuse it. and i also found a BS in there one out 5 missions can get a nice bit of loot off him. I no the min i add this CCP will PATCH IT and i will be broke but well i see it as a bug i got away with for almost 3 weeks now and i just hope that if ccp finds the time to fix this they can find the time to reply to my lose BS. P.S. i have not read forum rules i hope i have not broken any. ur just a D***head... am sorry is not allowed? Dam I wish I was allowed to use that word ...
Blue Fin Caldari Silver Eagles	Posted - 2007.02.08 21:37:00 - [11] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba They really should remove the implant then. Didn't see one when i did lvl 3s back then - but if there is one this tactics might caus drop lvl 3 implants in value - unless its always the same implant, like charisma or such, then only this type of implant will become almost unsellable. I did this mission last night and there were 3 implants in the building (as well as the Willpower +3 I got as a reward) Noble ZET 300 - 3% bonus to hull hp Zainou 'Deadeye' ZGA100 - 3% bonus to turret optimal range "Yeti" BX-1 - Ice Harvesting Cycle time -3% Quite a good haul, if I can sell the Yeti on auction.
Liquid Vision Caldari Liquid Research	Posted - 2007.02.09 03:39:00 - [12] Funny, I made as much as you did in a week in a few hours playing around on the market. Heck, I'm not even very good at it yet I just had a lot of capital. Find a more lucrative deal, unless you get your rocks off flying the same mission over and over. I can hardly stand running a different one every time. Thanks for finally giving me my damn picture!
WrathchildeVOTF	Posted - 2007.02.09 18:16:00 - [13] Originally by: Blue Fin Originally by: Yakia TovilToba They really should remove the implant then. Didn't see one when i did lvl 3s back then - but if there is one this tactics might caus drop lvl 3 implants in value - unless its always the same implant, like charisma or such, then only this type of implant will become almost unsellable. I did this mission last night and there were 3 implants in the building (as well as the Willpower +3 I got as a reward) Noble ZET 300 - 3% bonus to hull hp Zainou 'Deadeye' ZGA100 - 3% bonus to turret optimal range "Yeti" BX-1 - Ice Harvesting Cycle time -3% Quite a good haul, if I can sell the Yeti on auction. That's fairly rare. I usually get only the single +3 implant from the stash, but on two occasions I have done better. Once I got a spread of the +3, and 2 hardwirings (Not as nice as that ice harvest HW, though), and once it was the +3, several RAM, and a connections skillbook. In the past (1-2 years ago) that damned stash dropped bupkis. I do like the fact that it drops anything at all now. I could agree with giving the structure a range of possible loot drops, and randomizing it, but don't take the rewards away entirely.
Ryan Scouse'UK	Posted - 2007.02.09 18:47:00 - [14] Edited by: Ryan Scouse''UK on 09/02/2007 18:44:53 Edited by: Ryan Scouse''UK on 09/02/2007 18:44:00 Originally by: Jazmyne Lee I know i am going to upset so many people out there that are doing this. I also will lose all my money once ccp works this out i dont like the idea but i guss this game is about sharing, I just hope i get a name for it or even a thank you. OK With the revelations patch came a change that makes more isk them i can dream and i can even do it in a Cyclone. Step 1) find a group of level3 ageins i found brutor tribe to be the best for this as there is alot of level3 agents within 3 jumps of one another. Step 2) Buy a Sansha's Silver tag it cost me 2.5mil. then get a mission called Massive Attack very easy to tank as they dish to types of damage. Also pick up the loot and salvage some days i can make 4mill or 20mill off slavage and loot. Step 3) GET the mission with every level3 agent you can find i found 6 agents. i have 3 alt's thats a alot of missions. Kill ya standing but saying no till ya get it dont matter much. step 4) fly all the mission now in the last area with the overseer dont shot anything have the tag and go to the overseer's gate and go throw. There is a building there with a +3 implate inside it. grab it and clean the rats out for more isk. fly to station and sale it do this with every agent then after downtime do it all again. 6 agents 6 +3 implates a day. i can make 3 rigs a week from salvage. and 60mil to 100mil a day off implates. Also one last thing the mission last over 4 days so you can work on it for a long time the silver tag dont run out can reuse it. and i also found a BS in there one out 5 missions can get a nice bit of loot off him. I no the min i add this CCP will PATCH IT and i will be broke but well i see it as a bug i got away with for almost 3 weeks now and i just hope that if ccp finds the time to fix this they can find the time to reply to my lose BS. P.S. i have not read forum rules i hope i have not broken any. Yes you got a name for ur self its called ReTa*d# I really fail to see why so many Anti mission people post on thse forums .. to stop all ways of making decent isk .. Really are you that bored with the lack of players in 0.0 / low sec to Gank ? . Carriers / Dreads no more entering plexs / Deadspace .. still the biggest hurt so far :( Smack with the nerf bat.
redrick002	Posted - 2007.02.09 22:07:00 - [15] This method won't work for long term. I just make a test like whay you told. When you reject more than one missions in 4 hours, your faction standing, corp standing and agent standing will drop. If you reject too many times, the agent won't talk to you even when you still have a high faction standing. I talk to 3 agents, I got 2 "massive attact". The third agent is angry with me and won't talk to me anymore. I check the standings and found if I reject 2~3 more times, the other two agents will ignore me too. For conventional lv3 massive task, I can earn more then 1500 lp and 1.4m isk from my agent(effective lv +34) Which is 3m already. It is really not worth to lose the standings just for extra 10m. To be honest, one +3 implant/ hour is still slow compare to regular mission way. If you run lv4 mission, you can earn more than 20m/hour just for regular missions.
Danh	Posted - 2007.02.09 22:48:00 - [16] Edited by: Danh on 09/02/2007 22:45:02 Originally by: redrick002 This method won't work for long term. I just make a test like whay you told. When you reject more than one missions in 4 hours, your faction standing, corp standing and agent standing will drop. If you reject too many times, the agent won't talk to you even when you still have a high faction standing. I talk to 3 agents, I got 2 "massive attact". The third agent is angry with me and won't talk to me anymore. I check the standings and found if I reject 2~3 more times, the other two agents will ignore me too. For conventional lv3 massive task, I can earn more then 1500 lp and 1.4m isk from my agent(effective lv +34) Which is 3m already. It is really not worth to lose the standings just for extra 10m. To be honest, one +3 implant/ hour is still slow compare to regular mission way. If you run lv4 mission, you can earn more than 20m/hour just for regular missions. The idea is that once you DO get massive attack, you can run it once every day for the four days it lasts. And you can do other missions or the same mission on other agents in the same corp :) Edited to add: Hint: stuff respawns after downtime.
Jazmyne Lee	Posted - 2007.02.09 23:58:00 - [17] Ok with standing i got my toons up so high i could do level4's as well as 3's i set 2 level4 missions going and then try as many level3's if one lose's to much standing i finish the level4 missions and get standing back. i am still in the lower end but the type of agent matters not. now and then you get level3 missions that are very easy do them 5 mins of ya day wont kill you. I can spend a day messing around and get 4 or 5 agents going. then i am set for a week. do level4's to make up for it
VIctoria Ballentyne Minmatar Pale Riders Incorporated	Posted - 2007.02.10 00:20:00 - [18] Originally by: Lord WarATron If the OP regards this as good money, I would like to see what the OP regards 10/10 plex's like....... Muppet, Jazmyne was obviously talking about about soloing the mission. Can you solo 10/10 plexes? Or was that another boon given to BoB? "Forbid a man to think for himself or to act for himself and you may add the joy of piracy and the zest of smuggling to his life"
Viront Sniggerdly	Posted - 2007.02.10 16:19:00 - [19] Can you get this mission from other NPC corps like angels or guristas? Implants can fetch an excellent price in 0.0 ^_^
redrick002	Posted - 2007.02.10 18:52:00 - [20] 1. Even you do other missions to raise your faction and corp standings, the agent still won't talk to you if you "personal standings with that agent" is lower than -2. 2. You have no other method to raise the "personal standing" but doing missions for him. However, it is really not a wise decision to do missions with a agent who has a bad relationship with you. You need do many other missions to keep the relationship. 3. The LP and isk paid by a agent whom you often rejects tasks is only 1/4~1/3 of those you have very good relationships. I try what you said again and only got another agent angry with me and won't talk to me any more. Up to now, I get 2 "massive attack" missions, the price is: 2 agent won't talk to me anymore and another two are almost at the edge. What good is all the agent is navy agent while I mainly work for the space patrol thus I won't be hurt when I come back to to the normal tasks. My conclusion is: You can do this only before you make all the agent angry with you. Or you need to work for them to raise your "personal standing" before they got mad with you.
EPSILON DELTA	Posted - 2007.02.10 19:48:00 - [21] Quote: i done was 15missions in a row just under 40mins a mission are you saying you played 10 hours straight? you better be rewarded for that unyielding determination to farm. generally though 25mil an hour isn't all that impressive... making 250mil in 1 hour, now that's impressive. and im talking about solo that is and not luck based.
null01001	Posted - 2007.02.11 05:04:00 - [22] I don't know if its the OP fault but now +3 implants price just goes ridiculus (10-11m). Now i have no other choice but to refuse +3 implant offer from agents. From what i know, that was the most -short term- worthy way to get isk from your LP (1m isk = 1000 LP). I'l have to work a long time for my 14 LVL 4 agents before i can reach the stellar LP cumulation for worthy offer (like faction BS).. sigh ..
Jazmyne Lee	Posted - 2007.02.13 11:08:00 - [23] Well ok i am sick of people not beliving me or conplaning that dont pay good. ok if you mining pvp or do any type of low sec stuff i will use nice words here shut up dont say a thing. this is not for you guys. also be smart about it i can fly level4's so i line up 3 or 4 level4 missions before killing my standing i get my implates then i do the level4's and my standing comes up to do level3's again i work with two NPC corps not one so takes me alot to kill my standing i also start saying no only when i have already got one mission from normal means and i have standing higher then 7. Look i said kill standing not lose it all togather. Yes there is better ways to make money but for some one that plays at work afk's my missions level4's cant be done and low sec cant be done. this is good money. i get about 10 +3's a day call me a lier i'll show you. you cant do it well go back to mining cos to me this is better then making fake contacts. or stealing from people. yes you the person about to bag the idea i know how you make ya isk.
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2007.02.13 16:28:00 - [24] Edited by: Venkul Mul on 13/02/2007 16:25:00 Originally by: Jazmyne Lee Ok with standing i got my toons up so high i could do level4's as well as 3's i set 2 level4 missions going and then try as many level3's if one lose's to much standing i finish the level4 missions and get standing back. i am still in the lower end but the type of agent matters not. now and then you get level3 missions that are very easy do them 5 mins of ya day wont kill you. I can spend a day messing around and get 4 or 5 agents going. then i am set for a week. do level4's to make up for it And how you deliver the mission if you can't speak with the agent?
SolidDread	Posted - 2007.02.13 17:44:00 - [25] Originally by: null01001 Now i have no other choice but to refuse +3 implant offer from agents. From what i know, that was the most -short term- worthy way to get isk from your LP (1m isk = 1000 LP). The most -short term- worthy way to get isk from your LP is connection books, which is also at 15k LP but rarer than the +3 Implant. 15k LP and 10m for a possibly 40-90m book.
Lee Walker	Posted - 2007.02.13 19:34:00 - [26] Originally by: Lord WarATron If the OP regards this as good money, I would like to see what the OP regards 10/10 plex's like....... Except no one but BoD can solo 10/10 complexes.
hotgirl933	Posted - 2007.02.14 06:49:00 - [27] good post yeah watch for the patch tho
Jazmyne Lee	Posted - 2007.02.14 20:00:00 - [28] two things. One you can finish a mission with no standing. start the mission then kill the standing with another agent till you get what one you want. two 10/10's can be done very easy if ya have a runner but as you said BOB control alot of them sadly big groups run to much of eve there is no reall areas you can just mess around without people trying to clam it. would be nice to some unsafe space e.g black holes and stuff area people cant control with out large risks on there part. needs to be more done in the way of salf damage. e.g. like of farscape not best show but has some fun idea's maybe then people can fly 10/10's more often. me i can make 250mil in high sec i play alone so i dont group or pvp, So the risk is just to high to fly to 0.0 ccp want more 0.0 but there not helping more and more groups more and more pk's no room to just be alone anymore. so for now i may my implate isk then fly afk level3's with drones all day at work. that so had nuthing to do with my thread but well some one said 10/10 thort i add to it.

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