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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
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Posted - 2016.06.08 06:18:21 -
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In general, I agree that WINE support has made for a much smoother experience. But there is still one strange behaviour I consistently get with opening a new contract. It takes a long time. Like a minute or two long to create a contract when I select some items and choose 'Create Contract' from the right-click menu. But this delay only seems to happen for the first one. If I create a second contract it works near instant as usual.
Anyone else seeing this behaviour?
Why Do They Gank?
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Neve Talie-Ko
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2016.06.08 16:18:00 -
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Thanks for the Wine support.
I got the in game browser back!
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Tass Caffington
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
6
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Posted - 2016.06.08 20:04:27 -
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I switched to Wine yesterday. However, the settings were not copied although I clicked the copy-button. How can I fix this?
regards, Tass
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
"We're not happy until you're content!"
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Grella Khurelem
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2016.06.08 22:55:37 -
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Wine looks fine, but there are problems in a windowed environment that forced me to switch back so I can use multiple clients.
The problems are with every button on the screen. The location of where they are activated seem to be off by a half-inch or so on the screen. I'm assuming that this is related to the window bar, but I'm not exactly sure.
I've also not been able to get multiple clients to run at the same time either, but I'll need to try that again another day. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
1055
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Posted - 2016.06.08 23:02:02 -
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Grella Khurelem wrote:Wine looks fine, but there are problems in a windowed environment that forced me to switch back so I can use multiple clients.
The problems are with every button on the screen. The location of where they are activated seem to be off by a half-inch or so on the screen. I'm assuming that this is related to the window bar, but I'm not exactly sure.
I've also not been able to get multiple clients to run at the same time either, but I'll need to try that again another day. I've noticed this intermittently when running on my laptop, but haven't yet seen a reliable repro, making it hard to track down. When this has happened, resizing the window has resolved the issue. I know this isn't ideal, but it's a workaround at least.
I will keep an eye on this issue and see if I can fix it. If anyone runs into this and finds a reliable repro case I'd be very interested to hear about it.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise Apocalypse Now.
265
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Posted - 2016.06.08 23:32:17 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:Grella Khurelem wrote:Wine looks fine, but there are problems in a windowed environment that forced me to switch back so I can use multiple clients.
The problems are with every button on the screen. The location of where they are activated seem to be off by a half-inch or so on the screen. I'm assuming that this is related to the window bar, but I'm not exactly sure.
I've also not been able to get multiple clients to run at the same time either, but I'll need to try that again another day. I've noticed this intermittently when running on my laptop, but haven't yet seen a reliable repro, making it hard to track down. When this has happened, resizing the window has resolved the issue. I know this isn't ideal, but it's a workaround at least. I will keep an eye on this issue and see if I can fix it. If anyone runs into this and finds a reliable repro case I'd be very interested to hear about it.
I have been using WINE since i first learned about it. I only run windowed mode, lowest graphic settings. The only thing i have issues with is every once in awhile you go to click and the mouse drags, the camera pans slowly. it seems this has something with the control/option/alt/command key seeming to become sticky. focusing on a different client/application seems to fix it most times, or changing the camera.
If there was only a way to log everything and have it send the logs at the push of a button, vs trying to file bug reports overtime.
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
- The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
DIDE- is open to new members
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Ian Tucenghi
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2016.06.09 02:34:55 -
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Hi All,
Does switching to wine helps in lowering the heat that is generated by Mac while playing EVE? Further, it is now worth the switch? I would love to hear your guidance and advise on this matter.
Thank you, and Fly safe o7 |
Trisk Hurenlor
The Amarr Republic Allied Industries
0
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Posted - 2016.06.09 03:27:00 -
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Spent 20 minutes typing up my experience. Pressed "Post", nothing got posted, back button didn't show all I wrote. So here's the super short version:
I too had v.2.2.999545 launcher. - had to read 12 pages to see the solution (yes i googled, but didn't want to invest huge amounts of time until i had confirmation - Thanks Bro!!) - ran old launcher once to get latest updates. installed new launcher, which loaded 82 MB more data then automatically installed yet a newer launcher which loaded another 50 MB of data - ran Eve (left launcher on Cider for first run) - lost all settings, bookmarks, overview and chat channels - switched to Wine, restarted launcher, ran Eve - seems a little better, more Mac compliant (app switcher shows other apps when in Eve).
Op: Can you edit your 1st post and add the solution for those with launcher v.2.2.999545. Include a warning about losing settings, bookmarks, overview and chat channels. Thanks.
Regards, Trisk
P.S. Now I know to copy my reply to clipboard before pressing "POST". Here's hoping it works this time. |
Ian Tucenghi
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2016.06.09 13:17:59 -
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Ian Tucenghi wrote:Hi All,
Does switching to wine helps in lowering the heat that is generated by Mac while playing EVE? Further, it is now worth the switch? I would love to hear your guidance and advise on this matter.
Thank you, and Fly safe o7
In addition to the above, I took the plunge and tried wine. At the initial stage, it was all good and I can feel that it was light to the resources and the heat was down. It was pretty nice. However, it broke down specifically my mouse did not work and can't correctly press the UI in the game. Hence, I had to go back to Cider.
But I like wine. I hope it gets fixed soon.
I am running a MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Mid 2014) with the following specs:
2.6 GHz Intel Core i5 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 intel Iris 1536 MB
Thank you, and looking forward to a more stable wine.
Fly Safe o7 |
zuranus
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2016.06.09 14:18:25 -
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Linux user here ,just installed the new launcher (1045952.1.948) with wine and was successfull launching the game but
no luck with saving/copying my settings.
Hope to see wine option in the launcher for my Linux machine
Good work CCP! |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
1056
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Posted - 2016.06.09 14:24:49 -
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zuranus wrote:Linux user here ,just installed the new launcher (1045952.1.948) with wine and was successfull launching the game but
no luck with saving/copying my settings.
Hope to see wine option in the launcher for my Linux machine
Good work CCP! You mean like this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6503381#post6503381 ?
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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zuranus
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2016.06.09 21:45:10 -
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Arg.. somehow I thought mac clients had a different directx version since directx9 is phasing out ,hmm well
fingers crossed that wine comes up with directx11 soon.
I'm able to play for now with the new launcher . |
Coyote DelSur
Kontained Chaos Demonic Wheat Pineapple
0
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Posted - 2016.06.10 00:31:20 -
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Last night I switched to the new Wine and lost the Command Click. The game is all but unplayable now.
A support ticket has produced no response in close to a full day.
Any ideas? |
Johny Rambo
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2016.06.10 04:50:56 -
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Use control?
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Runsha
Pearlgate Associates
15
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Posted - 2016.06.10 06:15:37 -
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Black Pedro wrote:In general, I agree that WINE support has made for a much smoother experience. But there is still one strange behaviour I consistently get with opening a new contract. It takes a long time. Like a minute or two long to create a contract when I select some items and choose 'Create Contract' from the right-click menu. But this delay only seems to happen for the first one. If I create a second contract it works near instant as usual.
Anyone else seeing this behaviour?
Have had that issue for quite some time. Like you said its only first contract I create each session and its not that long so figured was just a matter of loading assets not used except for contracts. |
Runsha
Pearlgate Associates
15
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Posted - 2016.06.10 06:40:24 -
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I seem to be the odd one out here even as far as Mac users goes. At least not seen anyone else comment that is using a Mini. So figure I should toss out my two bits on what I'm seeing with Wine. (and I mean other than the faint vapor trails from drinking it)
MAC Mini (Mid 2011) 2.5Ghz Intel Core i5 8GB 1333 MHz DDR3 AMD Radeon HD 6630M 256 MB
Had to swear at it a few times and kill the new launcher before it finally took over from the old one and stopped hanging up. Had to play with it a bit before figured out how to get it to transfer settings then wanted to facepalm as its kinda obvious when you do figure it out. (delete the "default" settings when you do transfer so that it now defaults to what you transferred).
First run I had a couple instances where things paused while Wine data was loaded but was not long and has not occurred since. (I did not have any form of Wine loaded previous). Run in Windowed mode normally and tho I did notice my "notifications" button has drifted a bit and seems a few previously unpinned windows somehow became pinned, I have not noticed the window size to alter between sessions. Tho I honestly did not look to verify the resolution numbers so it might have grown slightly.
Only real item of notice came after about 90 minutes online with lots of jumps and docking transitions. And that that there started to be a screen shear during transition. By this I mean I started getting what appears to be a brief (half a second to 2 seconds) period during transition where screen used to go black and now is a fairly colorful burst of cubic noise. Tried to grab a screenshot but so far not caught it. Will keep trying tho.
Definitely seem to be able to run higher better graphics levels without the lag it used to cause so overall I'm a much happier MAC than I was just a week ago. |
Coyote DelSur
Kontained Chaos Demonic Wheat Pineapple
0
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Posted - 2016.06.10 13:07:08 -
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Johny Rambo wrote:Use control?
I tried that, but it didn't work either. |
Kai Lyn Katano
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2016.06.10 17:55:16 -
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How does one capture screenshots under Wine? With Cider I used the extended-keyboard key, "Print Screen" (located above the Insert, Delete, Home, End, Page Up, Page Down sextet). Since upgrading to Wine, no new png files show up on my disk searches which tells me that my screenshots are no longer getting captured. |
Coyote DelSur
Kontained Chaos Demonic Wheat Pineapple
0
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Posted - 2016.06.10 22:22:47 -
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Coyote DelSur wrote:Last night I switched to the new Wine and lost the Command Click. The game is all but unplayable now.
A support ticket has produced no response in close to a full day.
Any ideas? Over two days now and no response to the support ticket, no usable response here, and no usable response in Help Chat or OS X Chat.
I can't undock until this gets fixed.
Do I have to go back to Cider? If so, for how long will that be supported. Is that going to be discontinued on June 30?
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Coyote DelSur
Kontained Chaos Demonic Wheat Pineapple
0
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Posted - 2016.06.11 02:35:04 -
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Coyote DelSur wrote:Coyote DelSur wrote:Last night I switched to the new Wine and lost the Command Click. The game is all but unplayable now.
A support ticket has produced no response in close to a full day.
Any ideas? Over two days now and no response to the support ticket, no usable response here, and no usable response in Help Chat or OS X Chat. I can't undock until this gets fixed. Do I have to go back to Cider? If so, for how long will that be supported. Is that going to be discontinued on June 30? Screwit. I went back to Cider--and lost all my settings again.
If Cider disappears on June 30, so do I. |
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Johny Rambo
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2016.06.11 06:39:22 -
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Rather than spamming this thread with "I'm leaving, byeeeeee" posts, it would be more helpful if you would give example of what exactly you are trying to do, how and which bit does not work. This way you may get some reasonable response. Try to describe your problem in more details.
EDIT: Just checked and for my wine setup, both command and control work same way. If neither if these works for you, you must be doing something wrong. Therefore - examples please. |
Kyriacou Kansene
Yaya's Play Palace
5
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Posted - 2016.06.11 09:25:01 -
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I had similar experience as some other users setting up the new wine wrapper and am happy with the switch over and improvements to graphic quality.
A couple of minor things bug me, first when the Eve game window first opens (windowed mode) it's not quite at 0,0, and I have to drag it a few pixels over to the edge. I'm guessing a quick line of script could be inserted to get it to open at 0,0 or I could wright it myself...
Other thing I have noticed is the count stepper in the industry window has buggy functionality, in that I can only manualy use it with the up and down arrows, and the mouse wheel no longer automaticaly dose this and when I move my mouse pointer off the steppers it seems to wind back any progress if i wiggle my mouse around to much. [I'll file a bug report...]. |
Coyote DelSur
Kontained Chaos Demonic Wheat Pineapple
0
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Posted - 2016.06.11 14:12:40 -
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Johny Rambo wrote:Rather than spamming this thread with "I'm leaving, byeeeeee" posts, it would be more helpful if you would give example of what exactly you are trying to do, how and which bit does not work. This way you may get some reasonable response. Try to describe your problem in more details.
EDIT: Just checked and for my wine setup, both command and control work same way. If neither of these work for you, you must be doing something wrong. Therefore - examples please. I did describe the problem--the Command-Click no longer works. I tried the Control-Click and that doesn't work. I tried a number of other combinations, and nothing did what the old Command-Click used to do. That means I can't select groups of any kind and access the little menus that Command-Click used to bring up.
I switched back to Cider and everything worked fine.
But if Cider is what is being discontinued on June 30, I have no idea what to do next. |
Khazdurak Kor
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
0
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Posted - 2016.06.11 16:18:27 -
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Ian Tucenghi wrote:Hi All,
Does switching to wine helps in lowering the heat that is generated by Mac while playing EVE? Further, it is now worth the switch? I would love to hear your guidance and advise on this matter.
Thank you, and Fly safe o7
I have a 2011 iMac. With cider and the osx version, it used to get very very hot, occasional crashes. With wine, it's probably half as hot, runs much smoother with all high settings and no crashes. To be perfectly honest, it's not a straight forward process to get wine, macports etc. properly installed if you're not too familiar with the console; and the instructions are sometimes vague, but once it's setup, it's absolutely worth it.
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Johny Rambo
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2016.06.11 17:48:08 -
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Coyote DelSur wrote: I did describe the problem--the Command-Click no longer works. I tried the Control-Click and that doesn't work. I tried a number of other combinations, and nothing did what the old Command-Click used to do. That means I can't select groups of any kind and access the little menus that Command-Click used to bring up.
Finally! So the PC-right-click functionality no longer works? You're using Macbook or standalone Mac? On Macbook double tap (as in 2 fingers on touchpad) does that. With Mac and standard Mac mouse, probably someone can advise what is the correct way to do it (I asm using MBA).
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Coyote DelSur
Kontained Chaos Demonic Wheat Pineapple
0
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Posted - 2016.06.11 19:42:32 -
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Johny Rambo wrote:Coyote DelSur wrote: I did describe the problem--the Command-Click no longer works. I tried the Control-Click and that doesn't work. I tried a number of other combinations, and nothing did what the old Command-Click used to do. That means I can't select groups of any kind and access the little menus that Command-Click used to bring up.
Finally! So the PC-right-click functionality no longer works? You're using Macbook or standalone Mac? On Macbook double tap (as in 2 fingers on touchpad) does that. With Mac and standard Mac mouse, probably someone can advise what is the correct way to do it (I asm using MBA). I'm using a standard iMac and mouse. |
Vimalakirti Bassui
It Cannont Be Named
0
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Posted - 2016.06.11 19:54:55 -
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Hi guys. I have been running Eve via Wine on my mac for a couple of years now. I usually run the latest version of wine-devel (currently 1.9.12). So I have a process to keep it up to date and some other windows applications installed that I run.
I've tried the newest Mac launcher and once I worked out the settings issues everything seems to work well. But, is it possible to have the new Mac launcher run Eve via my already installed version of wine? Or does it only work with the launchers pre-packaged versions of wine? Maybe some way to point the launcher (via a config file) at my own version of wine?
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chbm
Tribal Mist Independent Operators Consortium
4
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Posted - 2016.06.12 10:40:56 -
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Just a quick note, I had a crash on startup due to incompatibility with
/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/HAL/RazerAudio.plugin
Luckily I don't have any razor audio stuff so I just deleted that and the now EVE starts under wine.
If you have this problem you exefile.exe crashing in source/RzAudioSettings/TwinkleMac/NahimicAPO_Mac/NahimicAPO_Mac |
chbm
Tribal Mist Independent Operators Consortium
4
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Posted - 2016.06.12 10:59:05 -
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Another note, copy profile did work except for window / full mode which defaulted to full screen. Apart from that all the other settings were there. |
Johny Rambo
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2016.06.12 11:57:50 -
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Coyote DelSur wrote: I'm using a standard iMac and mouse.
I just checked - double tap on mouse should work same way as on touchpad. Did you use gestures on Mac before? More on Mac gestures here: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204895
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