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CCP Snorlax
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C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.03.07 18:14:01 -
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In an effort to offer more officially supported ways to play EVE on Mac we are now providing support for Wine in addition to Cider. DonGÇÖt worry, weGÇÖre not simply posting a long page of instructions for you to set up Wine GÇô the launcher takes care of it all. To begin with we offer this as an alternative to the current solution GÇô you simply select it in the EVE Launcher Preferences. We will continue providing Cider, the current solution, until we are satisfied with Wine providing a similar experience.
What is Wine?
As stated on www.winehq.org Wine is a compatibility layer capable of running Windows application on several POSIX-compliant operating systems, such as Linux, Mac OSX and BSD. Instead of simulating internal Windows logic like a virtual machine or emulator, Wine translates Windows API calls into POSIX calls on-the-fly, eliminating the performance and memory penalties of other methods and allowing you to cleanly integrate Windows applications into your desktop.
How do I try it?
Make sure your launcher is up to date (version 1016420 or later). Select Preferences... from the EVE Launcher menu and select Wine for the wrapper.
Wine options
You shouldn't have to change any Wine options, and these may change at any time as we get feedback.
For now, the main option is what version of Wine should be used - we provide daily builds from the Wine git repository (git://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git). If you select 'Use dev versions' you can choose any of a number of recent daily builds, or to always use the latest one. If you leave the dev versions checkbox unchecked, you can select from stable builds that will have had some testing.
The WINEDEBUG field allows you to set a value for the WINEDEBUG environment variable that controls debugging output from Wine. This can be useful for tracking down issues, but should in general be left empty.
What if it doesn't work?
Go back to Preferences and select Cider for the wrapper, then everything should work as it did before. Please do tell us about it, either by posting in the feedback thread or by filing a bug report. Our goal is to offer additional officially supported ways to play EVE on the Mac and we need your feedback on this to do that.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.03.07 18:21:03 -
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Known issues
- Settings profiles don't migrate automatically
- Launcher needs to be restarted after changing wrapper type
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3774
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Posted - 2016.03.07 18:47:09 -
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It did not work.
I set it to Wine; version: Latest.
It downloaded a bunch of stuff, copied stuff, and eventually settled down, and looked just like the launcher normally does. I tried to start a session. The little white triangle by the name of one of my accounts turned into a square when I clicked on it, just like normal.
Nothing further happened for abut a minute. Then the square turned back to a triangle. No session of Eve started.
I switched it back to Cider, and the session did start when I wanted it to.
I tried Wine again, and it still failed.
In the above, whenever it failed, I would close and re-open the launcher, and try a second time. The fails were always fails.
BTW, I hope this works out, and thanks for working on it. Those using Wine seem to like it, so I am looking forward to being able to dump Cider forever and ever.
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Shock Lee
Intergalactic Stonecutters
0
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Posted - 2016.03.07 18:56:11 -
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My launcher reports to be v.2.2.999545 - any idea how to get that updated to the newest version?
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Dave-C Patrouette
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
0
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Posted - 2016.03.07 19:14:31 -
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I run eve on mac os x in wine religiously, and was wondering if there is a place to report the wine-mac bugs?
For currently if your probe window is windowed and not fullscreen there is significant flickering of the probe window.
I also compile/build my own wine from scratch and try to report bugs to the wine crew. |
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CCP Darwin
C C P
C C P Alliance
2008
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Posted - 2016.03.07 19:18:58 -
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Dave-C Patrouette wrote:I run eve on mac os x in wine religiously, and was wondering if there is a place to report the wine-mac bugs?
If you're using the procedure CCP Snorlax posted to install and run the WINE version for Mac, please use the in-game bug reporter, or if necessary our bug reporting web page.
CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins
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Manssell
OmiHyperMultiNationalDrunksConglomerate
Together We Solo
297
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Posted - 2016.03.07 19:48:04 -
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Holly mother of unpronounceable Icelandic gods, this is what the game is supposed to look like!
Launcher updated fine and the switchover to Wine worked fine for me. Will bug report tonight from in-game any problems I get.
THANK YOU cold northern people. |
Limyh Oteo
BAND of MAGNUS
THE R0NIN
1
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Posted - 2016.03.07 20:00:52 -
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Will give this a try - your effort is much appreciated CCP guys and gals! |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3774
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Posted - 2016.03.07 20:02:45 -
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As it did not work for me, I'm wondering if I am missing something.
Does telling the launcher to use Wine result in it downloading EVERYTHING needed to run Eve under Wine, including Wine, like it does for Cider? Or do I need to go to the Wine website and download other stuff as well?
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CCP Maxwell
C C P
C C P Alliance
91
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Posted - 2016.03.07 20:14:40 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:As it did not work for me, I'm wondering if I am missing something.
Does telling the launcher to use Wine result in it downloading EVERYTHING needed to run Eve under Wine, including Wine, like it does for Cider? Or do I need to go to the Wine website and download other stuff as well?
The launcher should take care of everything.
It would be interesting to see your logs.
CCP Maxwell - QA Engineer - Team RnB
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Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
334
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Posted - 2016.03.07 20:31:37 -
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Anything that helps Mac and Linux at all, is very welcome by the Mac OSX community |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3774
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Posted - 2016.03.07 20:46:32 -
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CCP Maxwell wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:As it did not work for me, I'm wondering if I am missing something.
Does telling the launcher to use Wine result in it downloading EVERYTHING needed to run Eve under Wine, including Wine, like it does for Cider? Or do I need to go to the Wine website and download other stuff as well? The launcher should take care of everything. It would be interesting to see your logs.
You mean evelogs.log? Where should I send it?
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Katrina Bekers
Rim Collection RC
The Old Guard.
248
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Posted - 2016.03.07 20:48:52 -
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As an EVE player since Trinity offered semi-native support of Linux thru Cedega, then discontinued it and unofficially helping all us WINE orphans get our EVE fix thru the many, many years of Linux gaming, I wish to thank Snorlax, CCP, and everyone involved for a GREAT news for the Mac cousins, and EVE at large.
There's hope even for us linuxers!
My tip is hatted.
And Snorlax has still a box of beer with his name paid, for when I'll meet it at Fanfest.
<< THE RABBLE BRIGADE >>
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
930
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Posted - 2016.03.07 20:54:47 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:CCP Maxwell wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:As it did not work for me, I'm wondering if I am missing something.
Does telling the launcher to use Wine result in it downloading EVERYTHING needed to run Eve under Wine, including Wine, like it does for Cider? Or do I need to go to the Wine website and download other stuff as well? The launcher should take care of everything. It would be interesting to see your logs. You mean evelogs.log? Where should I send it?
There are files called launcherlogs-timestamp.txt - unfortunately I don't have a Mac at home and don't remember where they're located. Probably /Library/Application Support/CCP/EVE/Launcher, or something like that. Put them in a Dropbox or Google Drive and send me the link in EVE mail - don't post it here, the logs may have more detail than you're comfortable with posting publically.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Invisusira
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
324
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Posted - 2016.03.07 20:58:14 -
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oh man can't wait to try this out when I get home
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3774
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Posted - 2016.03.07 21:05:07 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:
There are files called launcherlogs-timestamp.txt - unfortunately I don't have a Mac at home and don't remember where they're located. Probably /Library/Application Support/CCP/EVE/Launcher, or something like that. Put them in a Dropbox or Google Drive and send me the link in EVE mail - don't post it here, the logs may have more detail than you're comfortable with posting publically.
I don't have those set up, I'll go do that. In the meantime, here are the last few lines of a launcherlog:
2016-03-07T12:50:22.239Zwineerror"err:seh:setup_exception_record stack overflow 1008 bytes in thread 000b eip 98823866 esp 00240f40 stack 0x240000-0x241000-0x340000"
2016-03-07T12:50:22.239Zdefaultdebug""
2016-03-07T12:50:22.303Zwineerror"err:module:attach_process_dlls \"gdi32.dll\" failed to initialize, aborting"
2016-03-07T12:50:22.303Zwineerror"err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L\"C:\\\\tq\\\\bin\\\\exefile.exe\" failed, status c000001d"
2016-03-07T12:50:22.303Zdefaultdebug""
2016-03-07T12:50:22.306ZdefaultdebugProcess 11021 finished with exit code 29
2016-03-07T12:51:38.767ZdefaultdebugEVE Launcher closing, 0 client(s) still running
2016-03-07T12:51:39.235ZdefaultdebugClosing WebGui
2016-03-07T12:51:39.235ZdefaultdebugCustomWebPage destructor done
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Limyh Oteo
BAND of MAGNUS
THE R0NIN
2
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Posted - 2016.03.07 21:29:01 -
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It is working very well for me - among the highlights:
+ single application window - no more 2 windows per account if I open the IGB
+ performance - at least for me on my 2014 Retina MacBook Pro the performance bump is visible
+ No need to install anything - seamless change to wine - restart launcher and it worked
on the down side:
- settings did not migrate - but totally worth it.... |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3774
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Posted - 2016.03.07 22:03:47 -
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Limyh Oteo wrote:...........
- one additional minus - can't use mac keyboard shortcuts -command + c and command +v or command + q. I can live without them, but if at all possible - those would be nice. Still totally worth it.
+ addtional plus - IGB does not get stuck on the black screen. At least it has not for me.
Do the PC versions work, where you use control instead of command?
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
933
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Posted - 2016.03.07 22:29:01 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Limyh Oteo wrote:...........
- one additional minus - can't use mac keyboard shortcuts -command + c and command +v or command + q. I can live without them, but if at all possible - those would be nice. Still totally worth it.
+ addtional plus - IGB does not get stuck on the black screen. At least it has not for me. Do the PC versions work, where you use control instead of command?
Control key ought to work. I'll see what I can do about enabling Command key as well.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Lizzie Lefthand Marstolt
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2016.03.07 22:38:59 -
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Amazing work!  |
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Lizzie Lefthand Marstolt
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2016.03.07 23:31:23 -
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Except too bad I couldn't get it to work yet myself... Submitted bug report: EBR-71036 |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
934
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Posted - 2016.03.07 23:37:54 -
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Lizzie Lefthand Marstolt wrote:Except too bad I couldn't get it to work yet myself... Submitted bug report: EBR-71036
Are you on OS X 10.9 by any chance?
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Lizzie Lefthand Marstolt
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2016.03.07 23:45:55 -
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iMac (late 2009) / Yosemite 10.10.5
3.06 GHz core 2 duo
8 gb ddr3
Nvidia geforce 9400 |
Leora Risalo
21 Inc
Alternate Allegiance
2
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Posted - 2016.03.08 00:27:37 -
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Could you please post a guide for newbies? i ve never used wine and experience issues with native mac client. Id rather try out this new option prior installing windows |
Invisusira
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
324
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Posted - 2016.03.08 00:30:21 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:It did not work.
I set it to Wine; version: Latest.
It downloaded a bunch of stuff, copied stuff, and eventually settled down, and looked just like the launcher normally does. I tried to start a session. The little white triangle by the name of one of my accounts turned into a square when I clicked on it, just like normal.
Nothing further happened for abut a minute. Then the square turned back to a triangle. No session of Eve started.
I switched it back to Cider, and the session did start when I wanted it to.
I tried Wine again, and it still failed.
In the above, whenever it failed, I would close and re-open the launcher, and try a second time. The fails were always fails.
BTW, I hope this works out, and thanks for working on it. Those using Wine seem to like it, so I am looking forward to being able to dump Cider forever and ever.
Exact same issue here. If you could let me know where the logs are, that would be great - not having any luck finding any logs here.
OSX 10.8.5
2.7 Ghz i5 iMac
edit: my bug report. are we even being serious right now lmao
EVE Music
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Ronald Sotken
Swag Yolo Industries
0
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Posted - 2016.03.08 00:52:32 -
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This is great, but does anyone know I ought to copy my current profile settings to?
Currently I can launch with wine and it works much better than the cider wrapper (ctrl + dragging to multi lock, for example), but I really don't want to have to reconfigure all the settings. 
Default install location is
/Users/[name]/Library/Application Support/EVE Online/p_drive/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE
And it contains the following folders/files
IGBR
Patches
SharedCache
c_program_files_ccp_eve_tranquility
c_sisi_singularity
c_tq_tranquility
crash_history.crs
history.txt
The current settings profile is located in c_tq_tranquility, but I'm not sure where to copy the folder to so that the wine wrapper based launcher can launch with them.
Any ideas? |
Ronald Sotken
Swag Yolo Industries
0
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Posted - 2016.03.08 01:05:55 -
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Leora Risalo wrote:Could you please post a guide for newbies? i ve never used wine and experience issues with native mac client. Id rather try out this new option prior installing windows
It's as simple as launching the EVE Launcher, selecting Eve Launcher > Preferences (command + ,), and selecting the option to use Wine, instead of Cider on the wrapper type.
The launcher will install Wine and configure it to work. After that, restart the launcher and launch clients as per normal. You'll have to migrate settings, but there should be a fix in the coming week or so.
Good luck! |
Invisusira
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
324
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Posted - 2016.03.08 01:19:01 -
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Ronald Sotken wrote:/Users/yourName/Library/Application Support/EVE Online/p_drive/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/SharedCache/wineenv/drive_c/users/rob/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/c_tq_tranquility/PROFILE
Hope that helps some people out.
Interestingly, there's nothing there at all for me (and it wasn't working for me, see above post). Goes as far as Users/yourName/Library/Application Support/EVE Online/p_drive/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/SharedCache/wineenv/drive_c/users/yourName/Local Settings/Application Data/ but then CCP and beyond is missing.
EVE Music
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trever
Calamitous-Intent
Feign Disorder
0
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Posted - 2016.03.08 02:35:00 -
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I ran into same issues as those above me. Where i followed the procedure and it tries to start but fails. Submitted a support ticket with my logs.
Thanks for all your work CCP Snorlax. |
sytaqe violacea
Circus of midnight
42
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Posted - 2016.03.08 02:45:31 -
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+1
Eventually, I got to be able to input Japanese text to EVE Client directly ! 
(For a long time, I used external text editor to input Japanese text because copy & paste was the only way to speak Japanese in OSX client.) |
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Invisusira
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
324
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Posted - 2016.03.08 04:21:21 -
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Tried uninstalling Wine (which is... not really possible, apparently?) using the uninstall thing here:
http://winebottler.kronenberg.org/wp/faqs/category/winebottler/
Didn't seem to do anything; same result - launcher tries to launch, but no client is instantiated.
EVE Music
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Dragosta DinTei
The Kalisco Colective
0
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Posted - 2016.03.08 05:07:29 -
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Ronald Sotken wrote:
/Users/yourName/Library/Application Support/EVE Online/p_drive/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/SharedCache/wineenv/drive_c/users/rob/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/c_tq_tranquility/PROFILE
Hope that helps some people out.
Just one fix: this part: ".../drive_c/users/rob/Local Settings/..." where it says "rob" it's your mac username, or "yourName" as Ronald says at the beggining "/Users/yourName/..."
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Dragosta DinTei
The Kalisco Colective
0
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Posted - 2016.03.08 05:16:06 -
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here, made a simple guide on activating Wine wrapper
Step-by-Step |
Invisusira
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
324
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Posted - 2016.03.08 05:43:20 -
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Here's the error (or lack thereof) some of us are getting where the Launcher doesn't do anything when Wine is selected:
http://i.imgur.com/EU8FtFE.gifv
EVE Music
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Miranda Hanomaa
New Kamio Mining Authority
0
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Posted - 2016.03.08 06:26:51 -
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Please bring this to Linux as well, ASAP :)
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
2361
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Posted - 2016.03.08 08:16:20 -
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To celebrate this occasion here is a posting I made in 2011 :-)
Quote:I don't think that supporting a native Linux Client would be wise. The only way that makes sense in my opinion is to support wine as an official platform. This way there is only one client that supports Win Xp/Vista/7 and wine this could also replace the Mac client. I have no idea why CCP outsources the Mac client to Transgaming, maybe they don't have the know how to support wine.
source
the Code ALWAYS wins
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epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc.
Illusion of Solitude
1802
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Posted - 2016.03.08 12:30:38 -
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A bit fiddly to reset everything up, but it probably needed a good clean up by now 
Not sur what to report, I cannot exactly define what has changed yet, but the impression is it looks cleaner and sharper, and I can see the icons properly for the first time since the overview changes.
No I cannot be persuaded to go back to Cider
Thanks, a worthwhile piece of work.
There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
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GM Mechanic
Game Masters
C C P Alliance
7
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Posted - 2016.03.08 12:52:30 -
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Invisusira wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:It did not work.
I set it to Wine; version: Latest.
It downloaded a bunch of stuff, copied stuff, and eventually settled down, and looked just like the launcher normally does. I tried to start a session. The little white triangle by the name of one of my accounts turned into a square when I clicked on it, just like normal.
Nothing further happened for abut a minute. Then the square turned back to a triangle. No session of Eve started.
I switched it back to Cider, and the session did start when I wanted it to.
I tried Wine again, and it still failed.
In the above, whenever it failed, I would close and re-open the launcher, and try a second time. The fails were always fails.
BTW, I hope this works out, and thanks for working on it. Those using Wine seem to like it, so I am looking forward to being able to dump Cider forever and ever. Exact same issue here. If you could let me know where the logs are, that would be great - not having any luck finding any logs here. OSX 10.8.5 2.7 Ghz i5 iMac edit: my bug report. are we even being serious right now lmao
To open the folder where the launcher logs are located please open the finder and select go to folder, copy and paste the following:
~/Library/Application Support/CCP/EVE/launcher
This should open the correct folder to where the log files are located.
With regards,
GM Mechanic,
CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514 | EVE Valkyrie
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woooooooooooo
The Shadow Phoenix Fleet
5
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Posted - 2016.03.08 13:08:29 -
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my client got white out'd when i did several times of gesture swipe. i lost my hecate while running wh site.. anyway.
also, client does not load POS field, and specific UI elements like a ship status. like this. https://cdn.eveonline.kr/files/attach/images/133/235/016/71ef6cbf6b37dad75fc4e3f633310d9c.png
i will make bug report with log. |
Anorak Halliday Art3mis
Vega Unlimited
0
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Posted - 2016.03.08 13:30:10 -
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I downloaded Eve on my Mac, but it already came wrapped in wine. I looked in the Library\Application Support\EVE there were default Windows directories, and in one of them was the eve data. So is that purposeful, because it doesn't look purposeful from this post. |
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Azeta
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2016.03.08 14:06:41 -
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I would just like to voice my support for this direction, and a thank you to CCP for giving us this option. I tried this out last night and it worked brilliantly. I know there are still problems for some people but at least there is an open source option (submitting a bug report to the WINE community) for resolution notwithstanding support from our favorite game developer.
Thank you thank you thank you! If this still works post March release I'll be re-subbing my alts. Frankly we need to somehow tell all the mac people who have left about this new option so they can at least try it out!
My observations: Everything is faster. Everything I tried worked perfectly (although I just realized I did not try Windowed mode). I had graphics on max settings and it was much faster and more responsive than cider on medium. I wouldn't have thought this would be the case, but there it is. I'm on a Mac Pro (2013) with OS X 10.11.3.
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Ronald Sotken
Swag Yolo Industries
0
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Posted - 2016.03.08 15:51:25 -
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Dragosta DinTei wrote:Ronald Sotken wrote:
/Users/yourName/Library/Application Support/EVE Online/p_drive/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/SharedCache/wineenv/drive_c/users/yourName/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/c_tq_tranquility/PROFILE
Hope that helps some people out.
Just one fix: this part: ".../drive_c/users/rob/Local Settings/..." where it says "rob" it's your mac username, or "yourName" as Ronald says at the beggining "/Users/yourName/..."
Didn't catch the second username in that string. Either way, I think the launcher needs to download and install the wine wrapper for the client in order for the subdirectories wineenv/drive_c/users/rob/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/c_tq_tranquility/PROFILE to be created.
If the launcher won't do anything with the wine wrapper, it could be an issue of your system not working properly with wine.
This is a printout of running system_profiler SPSoftwareDataType in bash (with some user details omitted)
System Software Overview:
System Version: OS X 10.10.5 (14F1509)
Kernel Version: Darwin 14.5.0
Boot Volume: Macintosh HD
Boot Mode: Normal
Secure Virtual Memory: Enabled
Hope it can help. 
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Apoq Surrat
Amarritus Patriotus
4
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Posted - 2016.03.08 17:45:42 -
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I just tried this on my Mac Pro 2012, Nvidia GTX 680 with latest Nvidia Web Driver, running El Capitan 10.11.3.
The new launcher works fine with Cider, but when i switch it to Wine, it copies files, then says its ready, but will not start the game. When I click to play, the play symbol next to my name turns to a square, my name turns green along with the line under it. It then just sits there for about 45 seconds, then changes back to normal as if I never clicked anything.
Apple MacPro dual 6-core Xeon 3.06ghz, 32gig ecc ram, SSD, 4x HD, EVGA GTX 680 Mac Edition.
Running OS X El Capitan and Windows 10 Pro.
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Azeta
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2016.03.08 18:10:13 -
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Apoq Surrat wrote:I just tried this on my Mac Pro 2012, Nvidia GTX 680 with latest Nvidia Web Driver, running El Capitan 10.11.3.
The new launcher works fine with Cider, but when i switch it to Wine, it copies files, then says its ready, but will not start the game. When I click to play, the play symbol next to my name turns to a square, my name turns green along with the line under it. It then just sits there for about 45 seconds, then changes back to normal as if I never clicked anything.
Did you re-start the launcher? This was listed as a known issue on the first post in this thread. I did so after the wine files were copied and it started right up. |
Xerxes Fehrnah
Cherokee Mining Company
42
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Posted - 2016.03.08 18:42:06 -
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CCP,
From the bottom of my heart, thank you. This has bothered me for two years. I have been fighting with wine, unix command line, winetricks, and everything else under the sun to make Eve work on my Mac with some quality level approaching the Windows client.
This experience is completely superior. I have a working copy of wine, which ironically I finally got working again after weeks of tinkering just yesterday.
I clicked the button, it downloaded files, I moved my hud around, imported my overview, and now it is flying. The experience was seamless and easy.
A master stroke. You doubled the quality of the Mac experience and brought us back into your house in one shot.
I love you for this. Thank you.
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Invisusira
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
324
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Posted - 2016.03.08 18:44:26 -
[46] - Quote
Azeta wrote:Apoq Surrat wrote:I just tried this on my Mac Pro 2012, Nvidia GTX 680 with latest Nvidia Web Driver, running El Capitan 10.11.3.
The new launcher works fine with Cider, but when i switch it to Wine, it copies files, then says its ready, but will not start the game. When I click to play, the play symbol next to my name turns to a square, my name turns green along with the line under it. It then just sits there for about 45 seconds, then changes back to normal as if I never clicked anything. Did you re-start the launcher? This was listed as a known issue on the first post in this thread. I did so after the wine files were copied and it started right up.
It's a known issue, but not a solved one. Rebooting the client/launcher/computer does nothing to solve it.
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3775
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Posted - 2016.03.08 19:23:38 -
[47] - Quote
Invisusira wrote:Azeta wrote:Apoq Surrat wrote:I just tried this on my Mac Pro 2012, Nvidia GTX 680 with latest Nvidia Web Driver, running El Capitan 10.11.3.
The new launcher works fine with Cider, but when i switch it to Wine, it copies files, then says its ready, but will not start the game. When I click to play, the play symbol next to my name turns to a square, my name turns green along with the line under it. It then just sits there for about 45 seconds, then changes back to normal as if I never clicked anything. Did you re-start the launcher? This was listed as a known issue on the first post in this thread. I did so after the wine files were copied and it started right up. It's a known issue, but not a solved one. Rebooting the client/launcher/computer does nothing to solve it.
He is the first one to report having it with 10.11. CCP Snorlax has been able to reproduce the issue, and is working on it. (We have been eve mailing each other).
Just now I noted Wine 1.8 showed up in the list in the preferences, three versions (two in the Dev version list). I tried them all. None worked for me.
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Invisusira
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
324
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Posted - 2016.03.08 19:58:37 -
[48] - Quote
Vincent Athena wrote: CCP Snorlax has been able to reproduce the issue, and is working on it. (We have been eve mailing each other).
\o/ woot!
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
937
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Posted - 2016.03.08 20:02:37 -
[49] - Quote
Vincent Athena wrote:Invisusira wrote:Azeta wrote:Apoq Surrat wrote:I just tried this on my Mac Pro 2012, Nvidia GTX 680 with latest Nvidia Web Driver, running El Capitan 10.11.3.
The new launcher works fine with Cider, but when i switch it to Wine, it copies files, then says its ready, but will not start the game. When I click to play, the play symbol next to my name turns to a square, my name turns green along with the line under it. It then just sits there for about 45 seconds, then changes back to normal as if I never clicked anything. Did you re-start the launcher? This was listed as a known issue on the first post in this thread. I did so after the wine files were copied and it started right up. It's a known issue, but not a solved one. Rebooting the client/launcher/computer does nothing to solve it. He is the first one to report having it with 10.11. CCP Snorlax has been able to reproduce the issue, and is working on it. (We have been eve mailing each other). Just now I noted Wine 1.8 showed up in the list in the preferences, three versions (two in the Dev version list). I tried them all. None worked for me.
This is taking a bit longer than I hoped, but should be sorted tomorrow. For some reason I'm expected to have a life outside of work as well...
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3776
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Posted - 2016.03.08 20:08:33 -
[50] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:
This is taking a bit longer than I hoped, but should be sorted tomorrow. For some reason I'm expected to have a life outside of work as well...
I'll give you that as soon as I see a picture of you swimming in a hot spring while wearing a merman tail.
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Invisusira
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
324
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Posted - 2016.03.08 21:29:37 -
[51] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:This is taking a bit longer than I hoped, but should be sorted tomorrow. For some reason I'm expected to have a life outside of work as well...
I'm just thrilled to see Mac support turned around this quickly! +1 for merman tail pic!
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Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Fidelas Constans
2993
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Posted - 2016.03.09 01:09:57 -
[52] - Quote
anyone else experiencing issues with the cider client after using the wine version? I'm seeing cpu resources go through the roof and cant even get to selection screen. |
Danny TronIcs
Deep Orbit Colonization
0
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Posted - 2016.03.09 03:32:05 -
[53] - Quote
THANK YOU!
So far it is working very well on 2013 MacPro with Dual AMD FirePro and an iMac with Intel Graphics.
Really appreciate this kind of work!
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Empress Sarum
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2016.03.09 04:38:10 -
[54] - Quote
Thank you so much CCP!
I no longer have to fiddle around with wine and PlayonMac etc, to get a "close to windows" eve online client feel. Just followed your instructions and away it went, amazing! Much smoother then my cider client experiences so far.
One thing I have noticed, I am playing in windowed mode, with a set resolution (1344x840), each time I reboot the client the resolution grows by a few pixels. For example if I set my windowed size to the above resolution, the next time i start that client it has moved up to 1352x855. And will continue to grow in small increments until I have to reset it manually to where I want it. I tested it with a custom resolution by resizing the window, and the same behaviour, it grows by a few pixels per restart.
Running on:
OSX 10.11.2
MacBookPro Mid 2015
Geforce GT 650m
16gb Ram
I have resolution scaling to 90%, I'm not sure if that would impact this or not. It did this same behaviour when running the windows install via wine and PlayonMac. The cider wrapper keeps the resolution the same.
Any ideas on this?
Many thanks!! <3 |
Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
218
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Posted - 2016.03.09 07:51:25 -
[55] - Quote
CCP Snorlax and the other Mac support team - WHY THE HECK IS THIS NOT IN THE NEWS.
BUTA, more importantly thank you guys so much, I look forward to getting home in a few hours and switching over.
I will be back with more love soon
p.s. You all deserve a bonus.
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
- The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
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Mr Veda
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
139
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Posted - 2016.03.09 09:05:00 -
[56] - Quote
Firstly, many thanks for moving the client to wine. I'm sure it will be a huge improvement :)
Having a similar issue as many in the thread. Pressing the play button causes nothing to happen. After some time, the button goes back to a square. I also get this message from time to time:
There was an error writing a file to disk (see log for details).
If there are EVE clients running they might prevent updating files.
This could be also be caused by incorrect file permissions. Do you want me to try to fix permissions for the shared cache folder? (/Users/Madasa/Library/Application Support/EVE Online/p_drive/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/SharedCache/)
EVE LogLite also shows no activity
OS 10.11.3
Mac Pro (Early 2008)
2 x 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
10 GB 800 MHz DDR2 FB-DIMM
ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024 MB
Tried to file a bug report yesterday with my logs but there was an error on the website
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
218
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Posted - 2016.03.09 11:11:18 -
[57] - Quote
CCP - would it be possible to add a auto upload of logs via loglite? Don't know if this is a good idea or not, but I would not mind sending all my logs to you each time I played if it meant the client got better.
I asked this in the launcher thread, and felt it was also good to post here as this is the feedback for the wine version.
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
- The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
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Verite Rendition
F.R.E.E. Explorer
146
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Posted - 2016.03.09 12:00:05 -
[58] - Quote
Snorlax, etc: kudos to you guys. After NVIDIA purchased the Cider team and tech, it was obvious that Cider as a product was nearing its end, and honestly I expected you guys to pull the plug on Mac support as a result. I'm not sure what you had to do to sell CCP management on spending resources to distribute and support WINE directly, but thank you for not giving up on the Mac. |
Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
219
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Posted - 2016.03.09 13:44:00 -
[59] - Quote
anyone figure out how to copy over settings?
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
219
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Posted - 2016.03.09 14:09:16 -
[60] - Quote
Ronald Sotken wrote:This is great. Already noticed some much better functionality, such as multi locking with ctrl + mouse click drag not causing the client to lag out. Undocking is much cleaner too, and before I was having unhandled memory exceptions. I'll submit a report if it happens again.
But anyway, if any one was wondering, I was able to migrate the old settings profile from the cider wrapper to the wine wrapper by copying the settings sub directory from the following location
/Users/yourName/Library/Application Support/EVE Online/p_drive/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/c_tq_tranquility/PROFILE
to this location
/Users/yourName/Library/Application Support/EVE Online/p_drive/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/SharedCache/wineenv/drive_c/users/rob/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/c_tq_tranquility/PROFILE
Hope that helps some people out.
<<<< This needs to be added up to the top by a blue.
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
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Laris Orwan
The Congregation
No Handlebars.
61
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Posted - 2016.03.09 14:46:24 -
[61] - Quote
Worked very seamlessly in terms of changing from cider to wine and then back. So great work on this!
Initial impressions are very good on the performance side.. I'm getting 30FSP sat in an astroid field with a mixture of medium and high settings... wait for it... on a mid 2013 MBA. TBH cider was working well for me but FPS in the same situation and settings was 20. So performance seems a lot better.
Problems are key commands and settings not copying over. Settings less of an issue but ctr-space minimises the app for me and doesn't stop the ship, which could be a huge problem. Yes I can change the shortcut, but with 4 years of playing it's not something i'd want to change. I've not checked lots of commands though. Also the cmd-c etc is an issue for long term mac users. Hard to break such old habits.
If the key commands can be solved then it's a no brainer for me. Copying the settings would be a bonus.
Great work so far CCP I'll keep my eye on how this progress's.
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Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Fidelas Constans
2993
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Posted - 2016.03.09 15:27:24 -
[62] - Quote
So I've managed to get a few sessions in doing a few different things and my impression is mixed.
Firstly, the client is much smoother in terms of responsiveness and graphics. Haven't run more than two clients at a time, but I don't EVER recall the FPS counter resting at 40-60. Even with certain effects and settings set to high. I wish I had known it worked this way sooner. I'm going to geuss that installation + me = RIP.
Now the issues.
I couldn't list them all because there are a lot of specific instances and unique situations, but the most annoying and inhibiting are actually pretty bad.
Windows dissapear. I don't know how to explain this other than they open from wherever they were minimized and not even a second later completely transparent. I know the window is there by seeing and selecting it by alt-tabbing and I can still interact with buttons (have no idea which buttons though). Happened with both the maps, fitting screen, cargo window, and all at varying settings. The worst part of that, was that even the esc menu was missing. The screen would fade color and nothing would show up, buttons and tooltip a still showed up.
the map has many graphical bugs. Either I can't see any colors, lines, shapes, or labels (usually not all at once. Sometimes the actual graphics representing stars and their connections and such, would appear on the opposite side of the screen (residing outside the map window) with labels still in the map. Still fully interacts me somehow. Both maps had a tendency to do some sort of ghosting or whatever it's called when the after image is left behind. There's a few more but I would need to see them again to get a good example.
Some of the resolution settings seem to be acting funny. I normally play on my MPB (1200x1080) and a 32" TV (don't know res off hand). Playing the largest window size on the tv works fine, but setting any client to 1200x1030(?)(the OS X one that accounts for window bar up top) causes a weird shift where the screen content gets shoved under the window bar and all the buttons are shifted slightly so that I have to click slightly below them to actually click on it. Does not seem to be an issue in full screen or fixed window (which is a neat little feature btw). It also seems that all window settings are just ever so slightly shorter than the cider sizes. There's a small sliver of my desktop visible that wasn't there before.
I'm really loving the performance increase a lot, however these bugs are making certain features and settings become 'sensitive' areas that I don't touch for fear of getting stuck in the middle of something important.
Also in addition to my earlier post about the cider version being botched, I took a quick peek at the LogLite logs (haven't submitted bug report yet) and it seems the recurring error is something about a ballpark not responding after 30 tries. |
Laris Orwan
The Congregation
No Handlebars.
61
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Posted - 2016.03.09 15:32:20 -
[63] - Quote
Another command that doesn't work for me is alt-F for the fitting window.
Map has serious FSP issues though is fine graphically.
EDIT - alt doesn't work at all. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
939
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Posted - 2016.03.09 15:44:24 -
[64] - Quote
I've published a new Wine build, built from the stable branch (1.8.1). This build runs on the one machine I found inhouse where the previous build would fail.
I'm curious to see if this improves the situation for anyone that was unable to run before - please report back!
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Professor Humbert
Project Fruit House
Solyaris Chtonium
16
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Posted - 2016.03.09 15:54:13 -
[65] - Quote
Hello,
While warping to a gate my entire screen is suddenly filled with some video news that cannot be closed. |
Invisusira
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
324
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Posted - 2016.03.09 17:02:30 -
[66] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:I've published a new Wine build, built from the stable branch (1.8.1). This build runs on the one machine I found inhouse where the previous build would fail.
I'm curious to see if this improves the situation for anyone that was unable to run before - please report back!
Well report back when I arrive home! Thanks for all your great work! o7
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
2238
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Posted - 2016.03.09 17:05:48 -
[67] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:I've published a new Wine build, built from the stable branch (1.8.1). This build runs on the one machine I found inhouse where the previous build would fail.
I'm curious to see if this improves the situation for anyone that was unable to run before - please report back!
Didn't work yesterday.
Works today.
Good job!
Runs well too. The only problem I noticed in the few minutes I played around with it is that no numbers show up in the market history graph display. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
939
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Posted - 2016.03.09 17:16:36 -
[68] - Quote
Black Pedro wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:I've published a new Wine build, built from the stable branch (1.8.1). This build runs on the one machine I found inhouse where the previous build would fail.
I'm curious to see if this improves the situation for anyone that was unable to run before - please report back! Didn't work yesterday. Works today. Good job! Runs well too. The only problem I noticed in the few minutes I played around with it is that no numbers show up in the market history graph display.
Please file a bug report from within the game, with screenshots. It's easy to lose track of things reported in forum threads and I want to be sure to fix those issues!
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Manssell
OmiHyperMultiNationalDrunksConglomerate
Together We Solo
299
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Posted - 2016.03.09 18:33:55 -
[69] - Quote
Ok. Been running it the last two nights and this is great! 2011 Macbook Pro running 10.10.5 Game is much, much snappier, things like markets and hangers load a bit quicker, I'm getting a higher frame rate. All the new effects are there! Can resize the window anyway I like.
The only issues I've run into is cut and paste from outside to inside the client does not work for me. I also get the "There was an error writing a file to disk (see log for details)." when I log out one character and try to switch characters, but by closing the dialog it out and trying it again it always works.
This is great CCP! Thanks guys for working on this. |
Resin Neublem
Ultima Unitatis
No Points Necessary
1
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Posted - 2016.03.09 22:46:24 -
[70] - Quote
This is wonderful. I will switch from PlayOnMac immediately.
One thing that would be great to get working is the SSL problems with certain sites in the in game browser. This affects zkillboard and tripwire.
You can see the error by going to these URLs in the in game browser:
Quote:
Error Loading Requested URL
Unable to process the website's SSL certificate
Error Code: -207
I asked on Tweetfleet slack in the #mac-and-linux room and one of the ISDs mentioned that's because it's trying to use TLS:
Quote:that's to do with your system configuration. you need to configure your network software to only pull SSL rather than SSL or TLS pages for https calls. as igb can't handle tls
I opened a similar issue for the tripwire dev https://bitbucket.org/daimian/tripwire/issues/103/ssl-issues-using-in-game-browser-and-wine but it doesn't sound like it's really a problem with their end.
It would be great if the wine install would tweak what needs to be tweaked to get the IGB to work. Several wormhole corps use tripwire location tracking and that becomes a deal breaker for wine recruits.
I can also try out some WINEDEBUG switches if anyone knows what I could experiment with.
Thanks for the awesome work CCP! |
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5019
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Posted - 2016.03.09 23:31:13 -
[71] - Quote
Configuring the EVE client to run under WINE worked without a hitch, but I'm unable to access the general settings menu (ESC) to reconfigure anything. I just turns the screen greyscale and nothing appears. The lack of this menu and the functionality of command keys is a deal killer at this point, unfortunately. That and the ability to import existing settings.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Apoq Surrat
Amarritus Patriotus
5
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Posted - 2016.03.09 23:57:31 -
[72] - Quote
After todays update, the WINE option is working on my MacPro! Thanks for fixing it !
Apple MacPro dual 6-core Xeon 3.06ghz, 32gig ecc ram, SSD, 2x SSHD, 2x HD, EVGA GTX 680 Mac Edition.
Running OS X El Capitan and Windows 10 Pro.
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Invisusira
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
324
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Posted - 2016.03.10 00:16:39 -
[73] - Quote
Still doesn't work. Same issue, launcher never starts a client and the 'play' triangle comes back.
tried both the 1.8.1 and the dev 1.9.5 builds.
I also get this error:
Quote:There was an error writing a file to disk (see log for details).
If there are EVE clients running they might prevent updating files.
This could be also be caused by incorrect file permissions. Do you want me to try to fix permissions for the shared cache folder? (/Users/david/Library/Application Support/EVE Online/p_drive/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/SharedCache/)
when I click "play" only on the first attempt after starting the launcher.
Pastebin of my launcher's log:
http://pastebin.com/KHizikAj
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Manssell
OmiHyperMultiNationalDrunksConglomerate
Together We Solo
299
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Posted - 2016.03.10 02:05:10 -
[74] - Quote
Invisusira wrote:Still doesn't work. Same issue, launcher never starts a client and the 'play' triangle comes back. tried both the 1.8.1 and the dev 1.9.5 builds. I also get this error: Quote:There was an error writing a file to disk (see log for details).
If there are EVE clients running they might prevent updating files.
This could be also be caused by incorrect file permissions. Do you want me to try to fix permissions for the shared cache folder? (/Users/david/Library/Application Support/EVE Online/p_drive/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/SharedCache/) when I click "play" only on the first attempt after starting the launcher. Couple pastebins of my launcher's log: http://pastebin.com/KHizikAj
http://pastebin.com/MVE311ad
http://pastebin.com/aJk6v5gm
Clicking "retry" when this happens works for me. |
Invisusira
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
324
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Posted - 2016.03.10 02:36:00 -
[75] - Quote
"Retry" and "Yes" both got me past the message, but the client still won't launch.
EVE Music
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Sunrise Aigele
Pemberley Enterprises
BadWrongFun
69
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Posted - 2016.03.10 04:16:38 -
[76] - Quote
Suddenly, EVE is pretty. <3 Sadly, nearly every time I press Play to launch my client, I get a message to the effect that:
Dialog Box wrote:There was an error writing a file to disk (see log for details).
Iff there are EVE clients running they might prevent updating files.
This could be[sic] also be caused by incorrect file permissions. Do you want me to try to fix permissions for the shared cache folder? (/Users/sunrise/Library/Application Support/EVE Online/p_drive/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/SharedCache/)
Ignore/Retry/Yes
No EVE clients are running. LogLIte is pinwheeling. I will update as soon as I can query it.
Running OS X 10.11.
EDIT: Unlike Invisusira's, my client launches normally after I choose Yes. |
trever
Calamitous-Intent
Feign Disorder
1
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Posted - 2016.03.10 04:20:35 -
[77] - Quote
Still same as the other day. I press the triangle and it wants to start but never does anything. I submitted my logs via support ticket. |
Empress Sarum
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2016.03.10 09:34:57 -
[78] - Quote
For those of you that got it working, does the client change window size on each launch? (If you are running in windowed mode).
Mine keeps growing by a few pixels each time I load a client, just wondering if anyone else is having this issue, or if its some strange byproduct of having had playonmac installed, and running eve via wine with that before using CCP's new wine method.
Quote:One thing I have noticed, I am playing in windowed mode, with a set resolution (1344x840), each time I reboot the client the resolution grows by a few pixels. For example if I set my windowed size to the above resolution, the next time i start that client it has moved up to 1352x855. And will continue to grow in small increments until I have to reset it manually to where I want it. I tested it with a custom resolution by resizing the window, and the same behaviour, it grows by a few pixels per restart. |
Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
220
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Posted - 2016.03.10 11:55:32 -
[79] - Quote
Some tid bits.
Under Wine - screen resolution isn't very consistent.
My iMac and External monitor are both native 1920x1080. I play in window mode which means I run 1920 x 1030. Under the wine version. It seems that it starts up in like 1920 x 1038/1060 and like any other compensation of 1920x10**.
Aslo - what is the hotkey for screenshots? As this is not changeable via the shortcuts window.
edit: also when UI windows are pinned - and attached to other windows and the neocom bar, the resolution messes the attachment/stickiness of the windows up.
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
- The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
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Empress Sarum
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2016.03.10 13:38:51 -
[80] - Quote
Amarisen Gream wrote:Some tid bits.
Under Wine - screen resolution isn't very consistent.
My iMac and External monitor are both native 1920x1080. I play in window mode which means I run 1920 x 1030. Under the wine version. It seems that it starts up in like 1920 x 1038/1060 and like any other compensation of 1920x10**.
So its happening to you swell, well it's good to know I'm not the only one, I wonder if there is a fix, or way yo lock the resolution so it doesn't slightly change each time you launch the client. |
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Het Silenius
Rifterlings
Zero.Four Ops
1
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Posted - 2016.03.10 15:47:26 -
[81] - Quote
I haven't been able to get it to work on 10.9.5. I do currently have EVE installed via WineBottler, though. Would that cause a conflict? |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
944
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Posted - 2016.03.10 16:56:30 -
[82] - Quote
Het Silenius wrote:I haven't been able to get it to work on 10.9.5. I do currently have EVE installed via WineBottler, though. Would that cause a conflict?
It shouldn't. I'd be curious to see your launcher logs. Can you dig them up and put in a Dropbox (or Google Drive) and send me the link in EVE Mail?
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Het Silenius
Rifterlings
Zero.Four Ops
1
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Posted - 2016.03.10 17:27:11 -
[83] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:
It shouldn't. I'd be curious to see your launcher logs. Can you dig them up and put in a Dropbox (or Google Drive) and send me the link in EVE Mail?
EVE Mail sent, thanks. |
Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
220
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Posted - 2016.03.10 19:31:57 -
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Empress Sarum wrote:Amarisen Gream wrote:Some tid bits.
Under Wine - screen resolution isn't very consistent.
My iMac and External monitor are both native 1920x1080. I play in window mode which means I run 1920 x 1030. Under the wine version. It seems that it starts up in like 1920 x 1038/1060 and like any other compensation of 1920x10**. So its happening to you swell, well it's good to know I'm not the only one, I wonder if there is a fix, or way yo lock the resolution so it doesn't slightly change each time you launch the client.
Just realized you posted before me about the same issue.
I'm cheering for the Mac team at CCP to find a fix.
Also, any word on the Command key change?
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All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
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Chromartix
Gone Dark
3
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Posted - 2016.03.10 21:09:40 -
[85] - Quote
Thank you CCPeople! BiaB plus WINE support makes playing on my late 2012 Mac Mini fantastically awesome. |
Lauresh Thellere
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
66
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Posted - 2016.03.11 09:15:59 -
[86] - Quote
Empress Sarum wrote:For those of you that got it working, does the client change window size on each launch? (If you are running in windowed mode). Mine keeps growing by a few pixels each time I load a client, just wondering if anyone else is having this issue, or if its some strange byproduct of having had playonmac installed, and running eve via wine with that before using CCP's new wine method. Quote:One thing I have noticed, I am playing in windowed mode, with a set resolution (1344x840), each time I reboot the client the resolution grows by a few pixels. For example if I set my windowed size to the above resolution, the next time i start that client it has moved up to 1352x855. And will continue to grow in small increments until I have to reset it manually to where I want it. I tested it with a custom resolution by resizing the window, and the same behaviour, it grows by a few pixels per restart.
Wine has always done that for me even before CCP introduced the Wine wrapper. I'm not sure why but it's kind of annoying as I keep comms on the side next to the client :P |
Invisusira
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
324
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Posted - 2016.03.12 01:03:14 -
[87] - Quote
Got a client booting now, but I can't change the resolution - there's only one option, and it spans across both my monitors, which is not at all what I want.
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Sunrise Aigele
Pemberley Enterprises
BadWrongFun
80
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Posted - 2016.03.12 06:55:06 -
[88] - Quote
I decided to load Captain's Quarters while running Project Discovery, to which I am hopelessly addicted. Invariably, after perhaps ten to fifteen minutes of normal function, Project Discovery will become unable to load slides, and LogLite will fill up with over 300 messages per minute, all of them saying, "[f]ailed to set RenderTarget to slot 0." It is occasionally interspersed with the error, "[f]failed to get a valid ballpark in time after trying 30 times." (CQ has a ballpark?! Where?! ) After a couple of minutes of this, the client becomes unresponsive, and I have to force quit to terminate it. Then, invariably, I get the message that "There was an error writing a file to disk."
I have worked around this by loading the hangar instead.
(Note: I do not have to be running Project Discovery to get the RenderTarget error. That is merely what I was doing when I noticed it.) |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
944
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Posted - 2016.03.12 12:14:26 -
[89] - Quote
Sunrise Aigele wrote:I decided to load Captain's Quarters while running Project Discovery, to which I am hopelessly addicted. Invariably, after perhaps ten to fifteen minutes of normal function, Project Discovery will become unable to load slides, and LogLite will fill up with over 300 messages per minute, all of them saying, "[f]ailed to set RenderTarget to slot 0." It is occasionally interspersed with the error, "[f]failed to get a valid ballpark in time after trying 30 times." (CQ has a ballpark?! Where?! ) After a couple of minutes of this, the client becomes unresponsive, and I have to force quit to terminate it. Then, invariably, I get the message that "There was an error writing a file to disk." I have worked around this by loading the hangar instead. (Note: I do not have to be running Project Discovery to get the RenderTarget error. That is merely what I was doing when I noticed it.)
I'll see if we can reproduce this in the office. I've been in CQ without errors, but it may depend on settings and/or the OS X version and hardware used. I'd appreciate if you could file a bug report, give me your system details and attach a saved log from LogLite.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Sunrise Aigele
Pemberley Enterprises
BadWrongFun
80
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Posted - 2016.03.13 03:08:20 -
[90] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Sunrise Aigele wrote:I decided to load Captain's Quarters while running Project Discovery, to which I am hopelessly addicted. Invariably, after perhaps ten to fifteen minutes of normal function, Project Discovery will become unable to load slides, and LogLite will fill up with over 300 messages per minute, all of them saying, "[f]ailed to set RenderTarget to slot 0." It is occasionally interspersed with the error, "[f]failed to get a valid ballpark in time after trying 30 times." (CQ has a ballpark?! Where?! ) After a couple of minutes of this, the client becomes unresponsive, and I have to force quit to terminate it. Then, invariably, I get the message that "There was an error writing a file to disk." I have worked around this by loading the hangar instead. (Note: I do not have to be running Project Discovery to get the RenderTarget error. That is merely what I was doing when I noticed it.) I'll see if we can reproduce this in the office. I've been in CQ without errors, but it may depend on settings and/or the OS X version and hardware used. I'd appreciate if you could file a bug report, give me your system details and attach a saved log from LogLite.
I cleared my log because it was pinwheeling. It had hundreds of thousands of lines! That will make it easier to isolate the problem and bug report it.
Look for one soon. I am on 10.11.3, the latest version of OS X. |
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3789
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Posted - 2016.03.13 05:04:41 -
[91] - Quote
Now that its working for me, Here are some issues Ive found.
Command Q does not quit the game. Instead, it tries to quit XQuartz. Control Q does nothing.
In the market interface, the price history plot has no scale values shown.
I'm using a MacBook Pro, with a trackpad. When I do a two finger scroll on my hangar window, the window jumps to the contents of the ship hangar, or the contents of a station container. To see this, put many items in your hangar, so a scroll is needed to navigate them all.
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Sunrise Aigele
Pemberley Enterprises
BadWrongFun
80
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Posted - 2016.03.13 05:18:09 -
[92] - Quote
Is there an upper limit on the attachment size for a support ticket? I ask because when the bug I'm reporting logs more than 5 errors per second, and I play for 20 minutes to wait for a freeze, it becomes unwieldy. It is over 27MB in size.
I have narrowed it down to three issues, for which there will be two tickets filed as soon as I sort out the logs. I may simply start over tomorrow or the next day and not wait so long!):
1) CQ in windowed mode crashes either before it loads or as soon as I move the camera;
2) Project Discovery's slide display pane goes black as soon as I try to use command-shift-4 to take a screenshot of the slide;
2) CQ in full screen mode runs smoothly, but crashes as soon as I use command-shift-4 to take a partial screenshot,but at least I get the screen shot. |
Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
224
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Posted - 2016.03.13 06:21:45 -
[93] - Quote
Vincent Athena wrote:Now that its working for me, Here are some issues Ive found.
Command Q does not quit the game. Instead, it tries to quit XQuartz. Control Q does nothing.
In the market interface, the price history plot has no scale values shown.
I'm using a MacBook Pro, with a trackpad. When I do a two finger scroll on my hangar window, the window jumps to the contents of the ship hangar, or the contents of a station container. To see this, put many items in your hangar, so a scroll is needed to navigate them all.
Wine treats the command key as the "alt" key. So normally hot keys don't work.
Just think and try to train yourself for now that EVE is Native Windows and only window hotkey work.
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
- The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
224
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Posted - 2016.03.13 06:24:55 -
[94] - Quote
Sunrise Aigele wrote:Is there an upper limit on the attachment size for a support ticket? I ask because when the bug I'm reporting logs more than 5 errors per second, and I play for 20 minutes to wait for a freeze, it becomes unwieldy. It is over 27MB in size.
I have narrowed it down to three issues, for which there will be two tickets filed as soon as I sort out the logs. I may simply start over tomorrow or the next day and not wait so long!):
1) CQ in windowed mode crashes either before it loads or as soon as I move the camera;
2) Project Discovery's slide display pane goes black as soon as I try to use command-shift-4 to take a screenshot of the slide;
2) CQ in full screen mode runs smoothly, but crashes as soon as I use command-shift-4 to take a partial screenshot,but at least I get the screen shot.
For uploading files to CCPs bug report - just compress the file first. Had to do that the other day.
If you don't know how to compress the file - right-click and compress.
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3789
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Posted - 2016.03.13 16:46:29 -
[95] - Quote
Amarisen Gream wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:Now that its working for me, Here are some issues Ive found.
Command Q does not quit the game. Instead, it tries to quit XQuartz. Control Q does nothing.
In the market interface, the price history plot has no scale values shown.
I'm using a MacBook Pro, with a trackpad. When I do a two finger scroll on my hangar window, the window jumps to the contents of the ship hangar, or the contents of a station container. To see this, put many items in your hangar, so a scroll is needed to navigate them all. Wine treats the command key as the "alt" key. So normally hot keys don't work. Just think and try to train yourself for now that EVE is Native Windows and only window hotkey work.
Except control Q does nothing. There is no hot key, not even a windows native hot key, to quit the client.
Edit: I found I could change the shortcut for quit so control Q quits the current client without quitting Xquartz.
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Bleyddyn apRhys
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2016.03.13 17:24:58 -
[96] - Quote
I switched to Wine to test it and didn't encounter any problems except that my settings weren't transferred over. I couldn't find any directions on how to transfer my settings so I switched back to Cider. Unfortunately, all of my old settings are now gone in Cider, too. Resetting window locations would be annoying, but I really, really don't want to have to rebuild all of my keybindings.
Any suggestions on how I can get my settings back? |
Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
225
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Posted - 2016.03.14 03:54:45 -
[97] - Quote
Bleyddyn apRhys wrote:I switched to Wine to test it and didn't encounter any problems except that my settings weren't transferred over. I couldn't find any directions on how to transfer my settings so I switched back to Cider. Unfortunately, all of my old settings are now gone in Cider, too. Resetting window locations would be annoying, but I really, really don't want to have to rebuild all of my keybindings.
Any suggestions on how I can get my settings back?
Edited: Never mind, I figured it out.
I copied everything from (because the date/time stamps were from February):
~/Library/Application\ Support/EVE\ Online/p_drive/Local\ Settings/Application\ Data/CCP/EVE/c_program_files_ccp_eve_tranquility/settings
to:
~/Library/Application\ Support/EVE\ Online/p_drive/Local\ Settings/Application\ Data/CCP/EVE/c_tq_tranquility/settings_Default
NOT TO (the location that makes more sense):
~/Library/Application\ Support/EVE\ Online/p_drive/Local\ Settings/Application\ Data/CCP/EVE/c_tq_tranquility/settings_EVE_Online
The Wine version puts a folder in you documents folder (I think) but on like page two of this thread someone provides the location for your settings.
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All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
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Planeten Schreck
Bittersweet Corp
6
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Posted - 2016.03.14 15:29:15 -
[98] - Quote
Hi,
Mac 10.9.5, amd 5780 GPU.
Tryed to use wine but not workling:
Switch Setting to wine, downloads stuff. Quit Launcher, restart Launcher. start client produces a square and after a short time a triangle again.
even installed x11 pack on max.
Tryed to submit bug report but the wegsite is not working at the moment:
2016-03-14T16:22:18.379Zdefaultdebug("WINEDLLOVERRIDES=mscoree,mshtml=", "TMPDIR=/var/folders/86/wyygdbrs45z10kkfnvc_r16r0000gn/T/", "HOME=/Users/rolfrosenbaum", "PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin", "LOGNAME=rolfrosenbaum", "__CF_USER_TEXT_ENCODING=0x1F5:0:3", "WINEPREFIX=/Users/rolfrosenbaum/Library/Application Support/EVE Online/p_drive/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/SharedCache//wineenv", "WINEDEBUG=", "SHELL=/bin/bash", "SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/launch-jtRRc5/Listeners", "Apple_PubSub_Socket_Render=/tmp/launch-KrkGSh/Render", "__CHECKFIX1436934=1", "USER=rolfrosenbaum")
2016-03-14T16:22:20.901Zwineerror"err:module:load_builtin_dll failed to load .so lib for builtin L\"winemac.drv\": dlopen(/Users/rolfrosenbaum/Library/Application Support/EVE Online/p_drive/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/SharedCache/wine/lib/wine/winemac.drv.so, 258): Symbol not found: _OSAtomicDecrement32Barrier"
2016-03-14T16:22:20.901Zdefaultdebug" Referenced from: /Users/rolfrosenbaum/Librar"
2016-03-14T16:22:20.901Zdefaultdebug""
2016-03-14T16:22:20.912Zwineerror"err:x11drv:process_attach failed to load libX11.6.dylib: dlopen(libX11.6.dylib, 266): image not found"
2016-03-14T16:22:20.912Zdefaultdebug""
2016-03-14T16:22:21.257Zwinedebug"fixme:heap:RtlSetHeapInformation 0x490000 0 0x32fb74 4 stub"
2016-03-14T16:22:21.257Zdefaultdebug""
2016-03-14T16:22:21.271Zwinedebug"fixme:heap:RtlSetHeapInformation 0x0 1 0x0 0 stub"
2016-03-14T16:22:21.271Zdefaultdebug""
2016-03-14T16:22:24.622Zwinedebug"fixme:heap:RtlSetHeapInformation 0x490000 0 0x328154 4 stub"
2016-03-14T16:22:24.622Zdefaultdebug""
2016-03-14T16:22:27.135Zwineerror"err:setupapi:do_file_copyW Unsupported style(s) 0x144"
2016-03-14T16:22:27.135Zdefaultdebug""
2016-03-14T16:22:27.295Zwinedebug"fixme:msvcp:_Locinfo__Locinfo_ctor_cat_cstr (0x328960 1 C) semi-stub"
2016-03-14T16:22:27.295Zwinedebug"fixme:msvcp:_Locinfo__Locinfo_ctor_cat_cstr (0x328678 1 C) semi-stub"
2016-03-14T16:22:27.295Zdefaultdebug""
2016-03-14T16:22:27.295Zdefaultdebug"Network layer using: CarbonIO\r"
2016-03-14T16:22:27.295Zdefaultdebug"Executing DirectXRedist.exe ...\r"
2016-03-14T16:22:27.296Zdefaultdebug"Starting up Trinity through _trinity_stub_deploy ...\r"
2016-03-14T16:22:27.296Zdefaultdebug""
2016-03-14T16:22:27.296Zdefaultdebug"A traceback has been generated. It has been logged in the log server as stacktrace #1\r"
2016-03-14T16:22:27.296Zdefaultdebug"Terminating process by request - returning 0"
2016-03-14T16:22:27.303ZdefaultdebugProcess 2372 finished with exit code 0
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
225
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Posted - 2016.03.14 16:15:24 -
[99] - Quote
Has anyone had problems resizing the EVE window?
I know I reported issues with Wine and screen resolution.
I noticed i have the option when i mouse over the edge of EVE to resize it. I have not had any issues. Just wondering if anyone saw this? And if it has worked or not worked
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All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
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Ronald Sotken
Swag Yolo Industries
0
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Posted - 2016.03.14 17:19:53 -
[100] - Quote
Since switching to the wine wrapper I've noticed that sometimes when warping/jumping into a system, the video that is displayed on the billboards will play in full screen. I haven't been able to determine the trigger for this, but it seems to occur when commencing warp, or alt+clicking in space.
I have found no way to remove it without restarting the client.
See the following to get an idea of what I'm talking about,
http://imgur.com/a/NGf94
And here is the screenshots of the billboards displaying the same images,
http://imgur.com/a/wSK2Z
I'm playing on a 2012 macbook pro using the wine wrapper.
Seems someone else on page 4 is having this issue as well.
Any advice on a workaround/fix would be greatly appreciated. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
945
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Posted - 2016.03.14 17:28:07 -
[101] - Quote
Ronald Sotken wrote:Since switching to the wine wrapper I've noticed that sometimes when warping/jumping into a system, the video that is displayed on the billboards will play in full screen. I haven't been able to determine the trigger for this, but it seems to occur when commencing warp, or alt+clicking in space. I have found no way to remove it without restarting the client. See the following to get an idea of what I'm talking about, http://imgur.com/a/NGf94
And here is the screenshots of the billboards displaying the same images, http://imgur.com/a/wSK2Z
I'm playing on a 2012 macbook pro using the wine wrapper. Seems someone else on page 4 is having this issue as well. Any advice on a workaround/fix would be greatly appreciated.
I will look into this.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Ronald Sotken
Swag Yolo Industries
0
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Posted - 2016.03.14 17:59:00 -
[102] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Ronald Sotken wrote:Since switching to the wine wrapper I've noticed that sometimes when warping/jumping into a system, the video that is displayed on the billboards will play in full screen. I haven't been able to determine the trigger for this, but it seems to occur when commencing warp, or alt+clicking in space. I have found no way to remove it without restarting the client. See the following to get an idea of what I'm talking about, http://imgur.com/a/NGf94
And here is the screenshots of the billboards displaying the same images, http://imgur.com/a/wSK2Z
I'm playing on a 2012 macbook pro using the wine wrapper. Seems someone else on page 4 is having this issue as well. Any advice on a workaround/fix would be greatly appreciated. I will look into this.
Thanks so much! |
Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
1159
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Posted - 2016.03.14 19:22:06 -
[103] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Ronald Sotken wrote:Since switching to the wine wrapper I've noticed that sometimes when warping/jumping into a system, the video that is displayed on the billboards will play in full screen. I haven't been able to determine the trigger for this, but it seems to occur when commencing warp, or alt+clicking in space. I have found no way to remove it without restarting the client. See the following to get an idea of what I'm talking about, http://imgur.com/a/NGf94
And here is the screenshots of the billboards displaying the same images, http://imgur.com/a/wSK2Z
I'm playing on a 2012 macbook pro using the wine wrapper. Seems someone else on page 4 is having this issue as well. Any advice on a workaround/fix would be greatly appreciated. I will look into this.
I was in Help chat yesterday and I spoke to someone who was having this problem on Ubuntu. I told them to file a bug report but I'm not sure if he knew how to do that. |
Ronald Sotken
Swag Yolo Industries
0
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Posted - 2016.03.14 19:37:34 -
[104] - Quote
Primary This Rifter wrote:
I was in Help chat yesterday and I spoke to someone who was having this problem on Ubuntu. I told them to file a bug report but I'm not sure if he knew how to do that.
I've filed a bug report showing the screenshots as well. I posted more info about my system in the report, as well. Hopefully it'll just be a conflict or something simple. |
XSrederX
Subtle Subterfuge
Together We Solo
3
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Posted - 2016.03.15 16:18:31 -
[105] - Quote
experiencing the resolution and random game videos glitches. Have a 2007 Mac Pro with a GTX 950 (non-native/flashed) the client does not recognize my video card in wine but does in Cider perhaps that is the source of some of my issues? |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
947
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Posted - 2016.03.15 16:27:58 -
[106] - Quote
XSrederX wrote:experiencing the resolution and random game videos glitches. Have a 2007 Mac Pro with a GTX 950 (non-native/flashed) the client does not recognize my video card in wine but does in Cider perhaps that is the source of some of my issues?
Please file a bug report, attaching the logs from ~/Library/Application Support/CCP/EVE/Launcher. Send me the ID of the report to ensure I get it right away.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Invisusira
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
324
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Posted - 2016.03.16 04:35:43 -
[107] - Quote
Able to launch reliably now, but screen resolutions are all over the place. By default I can only select 4k something x 1k something (both monitors), but by switching back and forth between fullscreen and windowed I can get other options to show up. Sometimes they work, usually they minimize the EVE window into the dock, where it can't be re-opened. And unfortunately at no point am I able to get my full resolution on only my main monitor in windowed mode, which is how I (and I'd imagine most people with multiple monitors) play.
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Bast Antollare
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2016.03.16 07:55:56 -
[108] - Quote
Not sure if this is a problem but it seems odd. When I run "shared cache settings" under "settings", it finds about 2500 extra files, which it then deletes. Then when I restart the launcher it downloads about 2500 files. The client does start immediately after the files are deleted (without restarting the launcher) and seems to work fine. Yet, once I close the launcher and restart it, it downloads those 2500 files again.
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
947
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Posted - 2016.03.16 09:34:33 -
[109] - Quote
Bast Antollare wrote:Not sure if this is a problem but it seems odd. When I run "shared cache settings" under "settings", it finds about 2500 extra files, which it then deletes. Then when I restart the launcher it downloads about 2500 files. The client does start immediately after the files are deleted (without restarting the launcher) and seems to work fine. Yet, once I close the launcher and restart it, it downloads those 2500 files again. Screen cap of log files: log 1log 2
Thanks for reporting this. I think I know what is going on, I'll look into this.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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trever
Calamitous-Intent
Feign Disorder
1
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Posted - 2016.03.18 07:01:46 -
[110] - Quote
Found a few screen resolution glitches so far.
Every time I start a client it always starts the client one of my three screens at whatever the resolution I had that profile at. The problem with this is that while they are in windowed mode they do not have the top menu bar to move the client to a different spot. If i hit escape and try to change the resolution while in windowed mode I find a only 3 resolutions and their a bit wonky.
The work around i found was to go to fixed screen to move the client to my main screen.
Then select full screen and and select a resolution. By selecting full screen I am able to see all the available resolutions like normal again.
After hitting apply with an appropriate resolution I go back and select windowed mode, and viola all the normal resolutions are back.
After hitting apply I am able to see the top menu bar finally and can move the client like normal/resize.
I am having to do this for every client I open up every time.
I will send you a evemail with my logs, screencaptures and so forth.
Thanks Snorlax! |
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
229
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Posted - 2016.03.18 07:04:56 -
[111] - Quote
trever wrote:Found a few screen resolution glitches so far.
Every time I start a client it always starts the client one of my three screens at whatever the resolution I had that profile at. The problem with this is that while they are in windowed mode they do not have the top menu bar to move the client to a different spot. If i hit escape and try to change the resolution while in windowed mode I find a only 3 resolutions and their a bit wonky.
The work around i found was to go to fixed screen to move the client to my main screen.
Then select full screen and and select a resolution. By selecting full screen I am able to see all the available resolutions like normal again.
After hitting apply with an appropriate resolution I go back and select windowed mode, and viola all the normal resolutions are back.
After hitting apply I am able to see the top menu bar finally and can move the client like normal/resize.
I am having to do this for every client I open up every time.
I will send you a evemail with my logs, screencaptures and so forth.
Thanks Snorlax!
If you have not noticed - wine for me allows me to resize my windows from the edge. I was doing this from the esc > graphic settings, but they never stayed. So now I just resize the window like I would with any other windowed application.
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
- The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
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Invisusira
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
324
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Posted - 2016.03.18 23:50:22 -
[112] - Quote
Amarisen Gream wrote:If you have not noticed - wine for me allows me to resize my windows from the edge. I was doing this from the esc > graphic settings, but they never stayed. So now I just resize the window like I would with any other windowed application.
oh sweet TIL. welp that makes wine useable!
EVE Music
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Invisusira
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
324
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Posted - 2016.03.19 01:21:15 -
[113] - Quote
Ok oddly, sound refuses to play through my USB headset. System sound plays, Mumble plays, but EVE sound plays through my regular speakers. Only in Wine.
EVE Music
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Bast Antollare
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2016.03.19 03:02:53 -
[114] - Quote
Invisusira wrote:Ok oddly, sound refuses to play through my USB headset. System sound plays, Mumble plays, but EVE sound plays through my regular speakers. Only in Wine.
Thought it was just me, but I have the same issue - mumble works fine, but can't get Eve sound to play through USB headset. |
Xerxes Fehrnah
Cherokee Mining Company
57
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Posted - 2016.03.19 18:08:21 -
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Eve is much better under wine. Thank you for this update. It means a lot.
A feature request for wine support on Mac: Every time I start the launcher, it downloads a new version of wine --devel. It's spending a considerable amount of my Comcast data allotment. It would be nice to have a toggle switch that would allow me to reject updates to wine except on a daily, every other day, or as wanted basis.
I understand why Eve updates are essential in real time, as we all need to be on the same version, but wine updates could be throttled or ignored entirely unless some critical update is present that fixes a bug.
TL;DR: let me set the launcher to "notify me about wine updates available, and allow me to decide to reject or accept them."
Thanks again CCP_Snorlax!!!
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
948
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Posted - 2016.03.19 18:21:59 -
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Xerxes Fehrnah wrote:Eve is much better under wine. Thank you for this update. It means a lot.
A feature request for wine support on Mac: Every time I start the launcher, it downloads a new version of wine --devel. It's spending a considerable amount of my Comcast data allotment. It would be nice to have a toggle switch that would allow me to reject updates to wine except on a daily, every other day, or as wanted basis.
I understand why Eve updates are essential in real time, as we all need to be on the same version, but wine updates could be throttled or ignored entirely unless some critical update is present that fixes a bug.
TL;DR: let me set the launcher to "notify me about wine updates available, and allow me to decide to reject or accept them."
Thanks again CCP_Snorlax!!!
The Wine versions will stabilize soon. It shouldn't be downloading every time, though, unless maybe if you have selected latest dev builds. Try unchecking 'dev builds' for the Wine wrapper. You can also select a specific build, rather than latest, and it will stick to that.
The current version spends a fair amount of time verifying the files every time, though - that is already addressed in the latest dev version of the launcher that I will deploy next week.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
230
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Posted - 2016.03.19 22:30:17 -
[117] - Quote
Bast Antollare wrote:Invisusira wrote:Ok oddly, sound refuses to play through my USB headset. System sound plays, Mumble plays, but EVE sound plays through my regular speakers. Only in Wine. Thought it was just me, but I have the same issue - mumble works fine, but can't get Eve sound to play through USB headset. Just tested with 3.5mm stereo plug and sound works fine, switch to USB headphone - no sound.
I have no issues with EVE audio through my BOSE which hooks up via USB.
From memory you have to pick your audio out source before you start EVE.
If you hold alt/option - click the audio icon - you can pick the out source.
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
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Bast Antollare
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2016.03.20 07:46:45 -
[118] - Quote
Bast Antollare wrote:Invisusira wrote:Ok oddly, sound refuses to play through my USB headset. System sound plays, Mumble plays, but EVE sound plays through my regular speakers. Only in Wine. Thought it was just me, but I have the same issue - mumble works fine, but can't get Eve sound to play through USB headset. Just tested with 3.5mm stereo plug and sound works fine, switch to USB headphone - no sound.
So, even stranger behaviour - No sound when I have one client open, but when I open a second account, the sound starts up. Works fine until I close one of the accounts and then it goes dead again.
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Johny Rambo
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2016.03.20 12:33:44 -
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I am unable to start client via wine wrapper at all.
Every times I start launcher it copies wine files.
Yesterday when I started launcher after a week of not using it and I tried to start client, MacOSX told me I need X11 server to start explorer.exe and I should go and download it.
So I did - I downloaded X11 from http://www.xquartz.org, installed it but to no effect.
I will raise a bug soon, I just need to find 3 minutes to get to these damn launcher logfiles... ;)
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
950
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Posted - 2016.03.20 12:35:20 -
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Johny Rambo wrote:I am unable to start client via wine wrapper at all. Every times I start launcher it copies wine files. Yesterday when I started launcher after a week of not using it and I tried to start client, MacOSX told me I need X11 server to start explorer.exe and I should go and download it. So I did - I downloaded X11 from http://www.xquartz.org, installed it but to no effect. I will raise a bug soon, I just need to find 3 minutes to get to these damn launcher logfiles... ;)
I'll release an update next week that I'm hoping will resolve those issues.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Johny Rambo
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2016.03.20 12:37:20 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:Johny Rambo wrote:I am unable to start client via wine wrapper at all. Every times I start launcher it copies wine files. Yesterday when I started launcher after a week of not using it and I tried to start client, MacOSX told me I need X11 server to start explorer.exe and I should go and download it. So I did - I downloaded X11 from http://www.xquartz.org, installed it but to no effect. I will raise a bug soon, I just need to find 3 minutes to get to these damn launcher logfiles... ;) I'll release an update next week that I'm hoping will resolve those issues.
Shall I hold on until then with raising the bug report (assuming it will not fix the problems)?
I am very happy you are looking into make Mac users lives better, so I don't want to cause additional workload by raising tickets for supporting that may be fixed in few days :)
EDIT: I enabled client logging and that's what I ended up with in Eve LogLite:
http://imgur.com/ZTZv1u7 |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
950
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Posted - 2016.03.20 13:00:12 -
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Johny Rambo wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:Johny Rambo wrote:I am unable to start client via wine wrapper at all. Every times I start launcher it copies wine files. Yesterday when I started launcher after a week of not using it and I tried to start client, MacOSX told me I need X11 server to start explorer.exe and I should go and download it. So I did - I downloaded X11 from http://www.xquartz.org, installed it but to no effect. I will raise a bug soon, I just need to find 3 minutes to get to these damn launcher logfiles... ;) I'll release an update next week that I'm hoping will resolve those issues. Shall I hold on until then with raising the bug report (assuming it will not fix the problems)? I am very happy you are looking into make Mac users lives better, so I don't want to cause additional workload by raising tickets for supporting that may be fixed in few days :) EDIT: I enabled client logging and that's what I ended up with in Eve LogLite: http://imgur.com/ZTZv1u7
Just hold on, I'll post here once the update is out. The symptoms match with what I've seen before.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Trevor Dalech
We pooped on your lawn
Resonance.
231
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Posted - 2016.03.21 18:14:10 -
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The wine client seems to run a lot smoother than the regular one, I might even upgrade my graphics settings from full-low to some-medium!
However, a few little bugs I've noticed:
1) Sometimes, the launcher will open Xquartz but not open the EVE client. Clicking the 'play' button again will launch the client properly.
2) In windowed mode, the top bar (to move/close/minimize the window) sometimes does not appear, instead a white bar appears at the bottom which will allow me to move the window. Click on the EVE menu then reacts as if I were clicking on the 'close' button which should be in roughly the same location. Switch to 'fixed window mode' and back fixes this.
3) Tripwire (tripwire.eve-apps.com) does not load properly in the in game browser. It does load properly on the regular client (old and new launcher) but then you have to deal with all the IGB crashing bugs. I'm not sure if this is a tripwire bug or a problem with the client.
4) Jumping gates/wormholes is a lot faster for the wine client, but there still is a long delay before a system fully loads (about 20-30 seconds as opposed to nearly a minute on the regular client.) |
Invisusira
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
324
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Posted - 2016.03.21 20:43:45 -
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Current status:
Wine runs, and thanks to being able to resize window via dragging bottom right corner, is usable. (In-game resolution selection continues to be v buggy.)
Performance/looks are moderately better than Cider, but not by much. (This is more a compliment of the current Cider build than a dis on the Wine build.)
In-game sound does not play through USB headset, which means I can't use it for any sort of fleet ops.
EVE Music
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
232
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Posted - 2016.03.21 21:37:03 -
[125] - Quote
Invisusira wrote:Current status:
Wine runs, and thanks to being able to resize window via dragging bottom right corner, is usable. (In-game resolution selection continues to be v buggy.)
Performance/looks are moderately better than Cider, but not by much. (This is more a compliment of the current Cider build than a dis on the Wine build.)
In-game sound does not play through USB headset, which means I can't use it for any sort of fleet ops.
Question? Do you change the output for the audio before or after starting EVE. I knew the Cider version, if you changed after starting EVE it didn't work.
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
- The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
951
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Posted - 2016.03.22 10:55:43 -
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I've updated Wine and the launcher, see https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6405274#post6405274
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Arlyn Nightblade
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2016.03.22 12:02:26 -
[127] - Quote
Thanks Snorlax!
Any update on the strange resolution always changing in windowed mode whenever you launch a new insane of the client? |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
951
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Posted - 2016.03.22 12:39:36 -
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Arlyn Nightblade wrote:Thanks Snorlax!
Any update on the strange resolution always changing in windowed mode whenever you launch a new insane of the client?
Do you mean the window growing slightly whenever you launch? I have fixed that in the client itself, that will be included in the next release, sometime soon after Easter.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Planeten Schreck
Bittersweet Corp
6
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Posted - 2016.03.22 12:52:48 -
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Still not working for me: (but the error changed form the last Version)
10.9.5 Mac Pro #5780 GPU:
2016-03-22T13:48:06.209Zdefaultdebug"/Users/rolfrosenbaum/Library/Application Support/EVE Online/p_drive/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/SharedCache//wine/bin/wine" ("/Users/rolfrosenbaum/Library/Application Support/EVE Online/p_drive/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/SharedCache//wineenv/drive_c/tq/bin/exefile.exe", "/noconsole", "/server:tranquility", "/triPlatform=dx9", "/ssoToken=VnoK2xxwv9k0PMPAnmLpHajZQPNwG8jPrqXVhCoXibKmftZhz0YEViuiIm2PETF6uQw6uqCul8fLGiBOBqH9uQ2", "/settingsprofile=Erwin_Window", "", "/remotefilecachefolder=Z:/Users/rolfrosenbaum/Library/Application Support/EVE Online/p_drive/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/SharedCache//ResFiles")
2016-03-22T13:48:06.209Zdefaultdebugwineenv exists
2016-03-22T13:48:06.209Zdefaultdebug("PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin", "__CF_USER_TEXT_ENCODING=0x1F5:0:3", "WINEDLLOVERRIDES=mscoree,mshtml=", "WINEDEBUG=", "HOME=/Users/rolfrosenbaum", "DYLD_FALLBACK_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/X11/lib", "USER=rolfrosenbaum", "WINEPREFIX=/Users/rolfrosenbaum/Library/Application Support/EVE Online/p_drive/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/SharedCache//wineenv", "LOGNAME=rolfrosenbaum", "Apple_PubSub_Socket_Render=/tmp/launch-6PnItl/Render", "TMPDIR=/var/folders/86/wyygdbrs45z10kkfnvc_r16r0000gn/T/", "__CHECKFIX1436934=1", "SHELL=/bin/bash", "SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/launch-7SRtAy/Listeners")
2016-03-22T13:48:06.511Zwineerror"err:module:attach_process_dlls \"gdi32.dll\" failed to initialize, aborting"
2016-03-22T13:48:06.511Zwineerror"err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L\"C:\\\\windows\\\\system32\\\\winemenubuilder.exe\" failed, status c000001d"
2016-03-22T13:48:06.719Zwineerror"err:module:attach_process_dlls \"gdi32.dll\" failed to initialize, aborting"
2016-03-22T13:48:06.719Zwineerror"err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L\"C:\\\\windows\\\\system32\\\\rundll32.exe\" failed, status c000001d"
2016-03-22T13:49:09.218Zwineerror"err:seh:setup_exception_record stack overflow 992 bytes in thread 000b eip 9264a866 esp 00240f50 stack 0x240000-0x241000-0x340000"
2016-03-22T13:49:09.301Zwineerror"err:module:attach_process_dlls \"gdi32.dll\" failed to initialize, aborting"
2016-03-22T13:49:09.301Zwineerror"err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L\"C:\\\\tq\\\\bin\\\\exefile.exe\" failed, status c000001d"
2016-03-22T13:49:09.304ZdefaultdebugProcess 562 finished with exit code 29 |
Manssell
OmiHyperMultiNationalDrunksConglomerate
Together We Solo
300
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Posted - 2016.03.22 13:28:12 -
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Invisusira wrote:Current status:
Wine runs, and thanks to being able to resize window via dragging bottom right corner, is usable. (In-game resolution selection continues to be v buggy.)
Performance/looks are moderately better than Cider, but not by much. (This is more a compliment of the current Cider build than a dis on the Wine build.)
In-game sound does not play through USB headset, which means I can't use it for any sort of fleet ops.
Yea, you gotta plug in the USB headset before you load the launcher. It works fine after that, but like the Cider of a year ago hot swapping USB headsets doesn't work (yet?). |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
951
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Posted - 2016.03.22 13:37:23 -
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Planeten Schreck wrote:Still not working for me: (but the error changed form the last Version)
10.9.5 Mac Pro #5780 GPU:
...
Can you send me the full log in EVE mail? It's best if you put it in a Dropbox, Google Drive or something like that and mail me the link.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Planeten Schreck
Bittersweet Corp
6
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Posted - 2016.03.22 15:07:51 -
[132] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Planeten Schreck wrote:Still not working for me: (but the error changed form the last Version)
10.9.5 Mac Pro #5780 GPU:
...
Can you send me the full log in EVE mail? It's best if you put it in a Dropbox, Google Drive or something like that and mail me the link.
evemail send.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5cxIV-EfISuTmlwMU10VW1Qdzg/view?usp=sharing |
Invisusira
Pentag Blade
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
324
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Posted - 2016.03.22 16:04:47 -
[133] - Quote
Manssell wrote:Invisusira wrote:In-game sound does not play through USB headset, which means I can't use it for any sort of fleet ops. Yea, you gotta plug in the USB headset before you load the launcher. It works fine after that, but like the Cider of a year ago hot swapping USB headsets doesn't work (yet?).
protip, tyty.
EVE Music
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3792
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Posted - 2016.03.22 18:40:07 -
[134] - Quote
And as a result, it now no longer works for me. No XQuartz, but no client either. If I set it to Wine 1.8.1, it does work for me, and does run XQuartz.
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Pete Toxcal
White Zulu
Scorpion Federation
6
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Posted - 2016.03.22 20:26:43 -
[135] - Quote
Hi Snorlax,
works perfect on MacBook pro 2015.
Some tasks seems to work a bit faster like warping or changing screen when you ere docking or changing to pi.
There is only one thing that nerves a bit: After using a gate the both windows "Overview" and "Selected Item" needs longer than before to display the new contents. It was already slow on Cider, but in Wine its sometimes slower than before. I've made a jurney through New Eden with 48 jumps and sometimes it needs up to 4 seconds until this windows are showing the contents. This feels like some hours when you are landing into a gate camp.
But all other funtions are fine. Good job.
cu in space - Pete |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
951
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Posted - 2016.03.22 20:47:13 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:And as a result, it now no longer works for me. No XQuartz, but no client either. If I set it to Wine 1.8.1, it does work for me, and does run XQuartz.
Can you try the Wine versions available when you check Use dev versions under the Wine settings?
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3792
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Posted - 2016.03.22 22:01:40 -
[137] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:And as a result, it now no longer works for me. No XQuartz, but no client either. If I set it to Wine 1.8.1, it does work for me, and does run XQuartz. Can you try the Wine versions available when you check Use dev versions under the Wine settings?
That took awhile. Change wine preference, close launcher, open launcher, let files be updated, try to run it, wait for it to not work, close launcher, open launcher, try and run it again, wait for it to not work, change wine preferences. Repeat.
And none of them worked. The only one that works is the non-Dev 1.8.1 - test. Even that one has issues. It creates a window that is half off my screen. I cannot see the right half. Fortunately, I can get to the esc menu and change the window to full screen, then back to fix it.
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
951
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Posted - 2016.03.22 22:14:43 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:And as a result, it now no longer works for me. No XQuartz, but no client either. If I set it to Wine 1.8.1, it does work for me, and does run XQuartz. Can you try the Wine versions available when you check Use dev versions under the Wine settings? That took awhile. Change wine preference, close launcher, open launcher, let files be updated, try to run it, wait for it to not work, close launcher, open launcher, try and run it again, wait for it to not work, change wine preferences. Repeat. And none of them worked. The only one that works is the non-Dev 1.8.1 - test. Even that one has issues. It creates a window that is half off my screen. I cannot see the right half. Fortunately, I can get to the esc menu and change the window to full screen, then back to fix it.
Alright, thanks for trying!
I'll do some more testing on 10.9, may ask you do more testing for me later, if you haven't given up on me yet.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Arlyn Nightblade
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2016.03.23 00:27:52 -
[139] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Arlyn Nightblade wrote:Thanks Snorlax!
Any update on the strange resolution always changing in windowed mode whenever you launch a new insane of the client? Do you mean the window growing slightly whenever you launch? I have fixed that in the client itself, that will be included in the next release, sometime soon after Easter.
You are amazing! THANK YOU for all the hard work! And I hope you have a nice break and time to rest during Easter (if you celebrate it of course).
I'm sure I speak for all mac users who are now enjoying a much better gaming experience when i say this! Thanks again:) |
Lizzie Lefthand Marstolt
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2016.03.23 15:42:33 -
[140] - Quote
Ok, now client stopped working again. Had to switch to the wine 1.8.1-test for it to start working again. And even that gives these errors (although it seems to work fine):
error 2016-03-23T17:33:08 8 C:\tq\bin\exefile.exe Batman ExeFile Main Exefile STARTUP
error 2016-03-23T17:33:22 8 C:\tq\bin\exefile.exe Batman client General EVE Client version 14.03 build 1021814 started 03/23/2016 17:33:18
error 2016-03-23T17:33:27 8 C:\tq\bin\exefile.exe Batman client Localization Localization module: No label with name 'UI/Structures/Deployment//DeploymentHeader'.
error 2016-03-23T17:33:27 1069 /Applications/EVE Launcher.app/Contents/MacOS/evelauncher Batman.local evelauncher wine "err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {5a508685-a254-4fba-9b82-9a24b00306af} not registered"
error 2016-03-23T17:33:27 1069 /Applications/EVE Launcher.app/Contents/MacOS/evelauncher Batman.local evelauncher wine "err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {5a508685-a254-4fba-9b82-9a24b00306af} could be created for context 0x1"
error 2016-03-23T17:33:27 1069 /Applications/EVE Launcher.app/Contents/MacOS/evelauncher Batman.local evelauncher wine "err:ole:CoInitializeEx Attempt to change threading model of this apartment from multi-threaded to apartment threaded"
error 2016-03-23T17:33:29 1069 /Applications/EVE Launcher.app/Contents/MacOS/evelauncher Batman.local evelauncher wine "err:ole:CoInitializeEx Attempt to change threading model of this apartment from multi-threaded to apartment threaded"
error 2016-03-23T17:34:24 8 C:\tq\bin\exefile.exe Batman svc michelle Failed to get a valid ballpark in time after trying 30 times
System:
iMac (late 2009) / Yosemite 10.10.5
3.06 GHz core 2 duo
8 gb ddr3
Nvidia geforce 9400 |
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Ronald Sotken
Swag Yolo Industries
1
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Posted - 2016.03.24 02:16:39 -
[141] - Quote
Still having the strange issue with billboard video playing in full screen when I jump into systems that have a billboard on gate, but its much more playable than using cider, and I appreciate that.
I logged in no less than 12 hours ago, WINE wrapper worked fine, but now the latest WINE version results in the client not starting at all. The launcher shows a stop symbol and the bar goes green as if the client is launching, but then it goes back to a state of no client running.
MacBook Pro 2012,
Directx 9
Using OS X 10.10.5
WINE latest
Launcher version 1021473 (according to About EVE Launcher)
Clients launch fine with cider.
If I switch back to WINE version 1.8.1-test, the same issue exists.
I also posted this in the update to the WINE wrapper thread.
I can send through the logs in an evemail in full.
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
232
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Posted - 2016.03.24 12:10:33 -
[142] - Quote
CCP Snorlax, did you change something some in which the command key works again?
If you did. I love you even more.
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
- The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
952
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Posted - 2016.03.24 12:22:59 -
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Amarisen Gream wrote:CCP Snorlax, did you change something some in which the command key works again?
If you did. I love you even more.
Yes, I did, in the default Wine version.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
232
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Posted - 2016.03.24 12:41:59 -
[144] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Amarisen Gream wrote:CCP Snorlax, did you change something some in which the command key works again?
If you did. I love you even more. Yes, I did, in the default Wine version.
You deserve a dozen cookies...
Thank you
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
- The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
952
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Posted - 2016.03.24 13:23:10 -
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Amarisen Gream wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:Amarisen Gream wrote:CCP Snorlax, did you change something some in which the command key works again?
If you did. I love you even more. Yes, I did, in the default Wine version. You deserve a dozen cookies... Thank you
Chocolate chip, please :)
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
232
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Posted - 2016.03.24 16:23:33 -
[146] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Amarisen Gream wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:Amarisen Gream wrote:CCP Snorlax, did you change something some in which the command key works again?
If you did. I love you even more. Yes, I did, in the default Wine version. You deserve a dozen cookies... Thank you Chocolate chip, please :)
I can't read Icelandic. :(
http://bernhoftsbakari.is/#_=_
Any one here know how to set up a way to buy Snorlax some cookies?
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
- The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
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Lillik Eoner
Merchants Trade Consortium
The Last Chancers.
0
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Posted - 2016.03.25 00:42:39 -
[147] - Quote
Not sure if I did something wrong, but my launcher (v. 1021473) does not allow me to switch between wrappers. |
Dom Aumer
Lone Wolf Union
Yulai Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.03.25 20:01:02 -
[148] - Quote
Arthur Aihaken wrote:Configuring the EVE client to run under WINE worked without a hitch, but I'm unable to access the general settings menu (ESC) to reconfigure anything. I just turns the screen greyscale and nothing appears. The lack of this menu and the functionality of command keys is a deal killer at this point, unfortunately. That and the ability to import existing settings.
I seemed to be having the same issue. Windows (including the Esc -> settings window) weren't properly stacking and windows disappeared upon trying to open/close things (i.e. they were there since I could see tooltips but the windows themselves were invisible).
This was only an issue when I was out in space, not in the character selection screen. My character normally was logged out in a POS and I found when I docked/undocked the in-space window issues were fixed (one time I had to dock/undock twice). |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
952
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Posted - 2016.03.25 20:49:30 -
[149] - Quote
Dom Aumer wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:Configuring the EVE client to run under WINE worked without a hitch, but I'm unable to access the general settings menu (ESC) to reconfigure anything. I just turns the screen greyscale and nothing appears. The lack of this menu and the functionality of command keys is a deal killer at this point, unfortunately. That and the ability to import existing settings. I seemed to be having the same issue. Windows (including the Esc -> settings window) weren't properly stacking and windows disappeared upon trying to open/close things (i.e. they were there since I could see tooltips but the windows themselves were invisible). This was only an issue when I was out in space, not in the character selection screen. My character normally was logged out in a POS and I found when I docked/undocked the in-space window issues were fixed (one time I had to dock/undock twice).
Please file a bug report in game right after this happens, I need to see logs. Even better if you have full logs from LogLite - attach to the bug report.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Dom Aumer
Lone Wolf Union
Yulai Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.03.25 22:08:06 -
[150] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Dom Aumer wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:Configuring the EVE client to run under WINE worked without a hitch, but I'm unable to access the general settings menu (ESC) to reconfigure anything. I just turns the screen greyscale and nothing appears. The lack of this menu and the functionality of command keys is a deal killer at this point, unfortunately. That and the ability to import existing settings. I seemed to be having the same issue. Windows (including the Esc -> settings window) weren't properly stacking and windows disappeared upon trying to open/close things (i.e. they were there since I could see tooltips but the windows themselves were invisible). This was only an issue when I was out in space, not in the character selection screen. My character normally was logged out in a POS and I found when I docked/undocked the in-space window issues were fixed (one time I had to dock/undock twice). Please file a bug report in game right after this happens, I need to see logs. Even better if you have full logs from LogLite - attach to the bug report.
Done & done.
EBR-74128
Thanks for the Wine support! |
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Invisusira
Pentag Blade
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
324
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Posted - 2016.03.26 01:06:14 -
[151] - Quote
window keeps enlarging itself on launch. sent bug report, EBR-74163
EVE Music
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Liam Campbell
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2016.03.27 08:16:32 -
[152] - Quote
The IGB is not freezing now, this is amazing thank you. But some websites are having problems loading. Sreenshots of evepraisal.com and zkillboard.com
https://i.gyazo.com/43a2695b6cd6b51fb9eacfb4dd58bb2a.png
https://i.gyazo.com/40be11666e39000d16d4e9f3293b64bb.png |
Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
232
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Posted - 2016.03.27 16:11:46 -
[153] - Quote
Invisusira wrote:window keeps enlarging itself on launch. sent bug report, EBR-74163
CCP Snorlax has stated he has made a fix for this that will take place in a patch soon after Easter. You can find his post on page 7
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
- The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
DIDE- is open to new members
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Apoq Surrat
Amarritus Patriotus
5
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Posted - 2016.03.27 21:09:37 -
[154] - Quote
WINE had been working, but during one of the recent updates it quit. Clicking play now just turns the bar green for a while, then it goes back to blue. This is using the "latest" version option on two different MacPro systems I have, one with Nvidia GTX 680, and other with ATI Radeon 5870, both running El Capitan 10.11.4.
Hopefully the after-easter patch will help things.
Until then, I'm back to using Cider.
Also... Thanks so much CCP Snorlax for helping us Mac users !
MacPro dual 6-core Xeon 3.06ghz, 64GB ECC Ram, SSD, 2x SSHD, 2x HD, EVGA GTX 680 Mac Edition.
Running OS X El Capitan and Windows 10 Pro.
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
953
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Posted - 2016.03.27 22:18:54 -
[155] - Quote
Apoq Surrat wrote:WINE had been working, but during one of the recent updates it quit. Clicking play now just turns the bar green for a while, then it goes back to blue. This is using the "latest" version option on two different MacPro systems I have, one with Nvidia GTX 680, and other with ATI Radeon 5870, both running El Capitan 10.11.4.
Hopefully the after-easter patch will help things.
Until then, I'm back to using Cider.
Also... Thanks so much CCP Snorlax for helping us Mac users !
Try switching the Wine version to 1.8.1-test instead of latest - let me know if that changes anything.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Gaius Plantagenet
Un4seen Development
Sev3rance
7
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Posted - 2016.03.28 01:44:17 -
[156] - Quote
Earlier this week (Tuesday?) the Mac launcher just stopped working on my late-2009 iMac (OS 10.10.5, 2.66 GHz Intel Core i5, 12GB RAM, ATI Radeon HD 4850 512 MB). Even before then, every launch brought a renewed file download. Switching to 1.8.1-test got it working again and it seems to be quite stable now, and no longer downloads new files with each launch. |
Apoq Surrat
Amarritus Patriotus
5
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Posted - 2016.03.28 15:40:46 -
[157] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Apoq Surrat wrote:WINE had been working, but during one of the recent updates it quit. Clicking play now just turns the bar green for a while, then it goes back to blue. This is using the "latest" version option on two different MacPro systems I have, one with Nvidia GTX 680, and other with ATI Radeon 5870, both running El Capitan 10.11.4.
Hopefully the after-easter patch will help things.
Until then, I'm back to using Cider.
Also... Thanks so much CCP Snorlax for helping us Mac users ! Try switching the Wine version to 1.8.1-test instead of latest - let me know if that changes anything.
Changing to 1.8.1-test fixed it on both MacPro systems and the game ran fine.
MacPro dual 6-core Xeon 3.06ghz, 64GB ECC Ram, SSD, 2x SSHD, 2x HD, EVGA GTX 680 Mac Edition.
Running OS X El Capitan and Windows 10 Pro.
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
232
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Posted - 2016.04.02 00:02:51 -
[158] - Quote
CCP Snorlax,
Any idea on when the patch will be that fixes the resolution changes upon start up?
I am using Wine version, latest
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
- The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
DIDE- is open to new members
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Invisusira
Pentag Blade
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
324
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Posted - 2016.04.02 16:30:21 -
[159] - Quote
I randomly get sessions where I have to use my control key instead of my command key as a modifier for things like select all, copy, paste, etc. Seems completely random and happens maybe 1 in 5 or 6 sessions? Submitted bug report.
EVE Music
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
957
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Posted - 2016.04.03 23:52:36 -
[160] - Quote
Invisusira wrote:I randomly get sessions where I have to use my control key instead of my command key as a modifier for things like select all, copy, paste, etc. Seems completely random and happens maybe 1 in 5 or 6 sessions? Submitted bug report.
Make sure you don't have the dev versions of Wine enabled.
The dev versions are built automatically from 3 different repos, only one of which has my changes. If you have the dev versions enabled, with Latest selected, you will be somewhat randomly jumping between the CCP fork of Wine (which has the keyboard mapping fixed) or the original Wine repo from either the development or the stable branch. The ability to select from these dev builds is primarily to enable us to test different versions.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Invisusira
Pentag Blade
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
324
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Posted - 2016.04.04 23:53:40 -
[161] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Make sure you don't have the dev versions of Wine enabled.
Ah ha, that did the trick! Thanks!
EVE Music
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Mad Mabata
Sturmgrenadier Inc
Dirt Nap Squad.
0
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Posted - 2016.04.05 03:46:55 -
[162] - Quote
Overall, the game 'feels' smoother and less laggy using the wine client.
Switch to wine went easy (but was hard to find), maybe it should be under the launcher settings?
However, I have two problems / bugs:
- Game crashes when I jump from gate to gate in high-sec. This has also been the case in cider
- My tripwire through the IGB does not work. I am in contact with the tripwire developer, here's a link to the issue:
https://bitbucket.org/daimian/tripwire/issues/111/igb-shows-only-text-after-upgrading-to
The latter is kind of a pain... because it makes wormhole life very miserable and actually makes me consider going back to cider. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
957
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Posted - 2016.04.05 10:43:50 -
[163] - Quote
Mad Mabata wrote:Overall, the game 'feels' smoother and less laggy using the wine client. Switch to wine went easy (but was hard to find), maybe it should be under the launcher settings? However, I have two problems / bugs: - Game crashes when I jump from gate to gate in high-sec. This has also been the case in cider - My tripwire through the IGB does not work. I am in contact with the tripwire developer, here's a link to the issue: https://bitbucket.org/daimian/tripwire/issues/111/igb-shows-only-text-after-upgrading-to
The latter is kind of a pain... because it makes wormhole life very miserable and actually makes me consider going back to cider.
I'm guessing this has to do with https, I'll investigate.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Arlyn Nightblade
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2016.04.06 01:03:51 -
[164] - Quote
Amarisen Gream wrote:CCP Snorlax,
Any idea on when the patch will be that fixes the resolution changes upon start up?
I am using Wine version, latest
I don't think that fix made it into the latest patch (2016-04-05) as the windows are still growing/resizing each time you launch a new client. |
Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
232
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Posted - 2016.04.06 02:54:04 -
[165] - Quote
Arlyn Nightblade wrote:Amarisen Gream wrote:CCP Snorlax,
Any idea on when the patch will be that fixes the resolution changes upon start up?
I am using Wine version, latest I don't think that fix made it into the latest patch (2016-04-05) as the windows are still growing/resizing each time you launch a new client.
I don't think it did ether, as I use the latest wine and it still has the same issue.
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
- The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
DIDE- is open to new members
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ashahara
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2016.04.06 08:38:18 -
[166] - Quote
will try some of these tweaks when I get home this evening, never played eve on a Mac before and im not having much fun at the moment after installing and re subbing 2 days ago. |
Mad Mabata
Sturmgrenadier Inc
Dirt Nap Squad.
0
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Posted - 2016.04.07 03:45:53 -
[167] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Mad Mabata wrote:Overall, the game 'feels' smoother and less laggy using the wine client. Switch to wine went easy (but was hard to find), maybe it should be under the launcher settings? However, I have two problems / bugs: - Game crashes when I jump from gate to gate in high-sec. This has also been the case in cider - My tripwire through the IGB does not work. I am in contact with the tripwire developer, here's a link to the issue: https://bitbucket.org/daimian/tripwire/issues/111/igb-shows-only-text-after-upgrading-to
The latter is kind of a pain... because it makes wormhole life very miserable and actually makes me consider going back to cider. I'm guessing this has to do with https, I'll investigate.
Yes, zkillboard seems to have similar issues.
"Unable to process the website's SSL certificate" - Error Code: -207 |
ashahara
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2016.04.07 08:15:50 -
[168] - Quote
Had a much better experience with the game last night. selected the wine wrapper as detailed in the OP and followed the instructions to the letter, I did not have a single IGB crash, not a single game freeze.
Sitting in station and flying in normal space, I get a steady 60FPS, when entering mission space, it drops to circa 40 FPS.Graphic settings are maxed out with no AA.
my only issue now seems to be the "Connection Lost, the Socket was closed" message I get. Tried re-setting my modem & router as mentioned in another thread I found which worked ok for a bit, but then I got the message again. definitely not as bad as the night before, but the problem still remains.
have upgraded my trial account to full sub based on my new experience on my imac |
Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
232
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Posted - 2016.04.07 12:12:58 -
[169] - Quote
ashahara wrote:Had a much better experience with the game last night. selected the wine wrapper as detailed in the OP and followed the instructions to the letter, I did not have a single IGB crash, not a single game freeze. Sitting in station and flying in normal space, I get a steady 60FPS, when entering mission space, it drops to circa 40 FPS.Graphic settings are maxed out with no AA. my only issue now seems to be the "Connection Lost, the Socket was closed" message I get. Tried re-setting my modem & router as mentioned in another thread I found which worked ok for a bit, but then I got the message again. definitely not as bad as the night before, but the problem still remains. have upgraded my trial account to full sub based on my new experience on my imac
welcome to full-time EVE.
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
- The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
DIDE- is open to new members
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Azeta
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:54:19 -
[170] - Quote
ashahara wrote:
my only issue now seems to be the "Connection Lost, the Socket was closed" message I get. Tried re-setting my modem & router as mentioned in another thread I found which worked ok for a bit, but then I got the message again. definitely not as bad as the night before, but the problem still remains.
If you are not using an Apple Airport Extreme I would like to recommend them (since you are clearly a Mac person). I suffered from unreliable connections and devices for years with d-link, linksys, etc. before I finally gave up and figured I'd try the Apple device if only so I wouldn't have to re-boot the thing once (or more) a day. The difference was night and day. It only goes down when there is a power outage, I never get disconnected at random, and all my network access seems faster.
That said, if your provider has upstream problems there isn't much you can do but complain. I may be able to walk you through some network tests to help isolate the problem if you feel that would help you. |
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Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
329
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Posted - 2016.04.09 20:35:44 -
[171] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Invisusira wrote:I randomly get sessions where I have to use my control key instead of my command key as a modifier for things like select all, copy, paste, etc. Seems completely random and happens maybe 1 in 5 or 6 sessions? Submitted bug report. Make sure you don't have the dev versions of Wine enabled. The dev versions are built automatically from 3 different repos, only one of which has my changes. If you have the dev versions enabled, with Latest selected, you will be somewhat randomly jumping between the CCP fork of Wine (which has the keyboard mapping fixed) or the original Wine repo from either the development or the stable branch. The ability to select from these dev builds is primarily to enable us to test different versions.
Is this related in any way at all to the dev versions of Beer? |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
959
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Posted - 2016.04.09 21:36:36 -
[172] - Quote
Drago Shouna wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:Invisusira wrote:I randomly get sessions where I have to use my control key instead of my command key as a modifier for things like select all, copy, paste, etc. Seems completely random and happens maybe 1 in 5 or 6 sessions? Submitted bug report. Make sure you don't have the dev versions of Wine enabled. The dev versions are built automatically from 3 different repos, only one of which has my changes. If you have the dev versions enabled, with Latest selected, you will be somewhat randomly jumping between the CCP fork of Wine (which has the keyboard mapping fixed) or the original Wine repo from either the development or the stable branch. The ability to select from these dev builds is primarily to enable us to test different versions. Is this related in any way at all to the dev versions of Beer?
Those are only available at Fanfest :)
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Weenheen
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2016.04.10 19:37:10 -
[173] - Quote
First, the new Wine option runs very fine for me and my 5 year old iMac, made me subscribe from trial!
The only bug I could detect is that the market history graph's axes are no longer labeled. The graph is there alright, but you can't make heads an tails out of it without those labels. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
959
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Posted - 2016.04.10 21:12:58 -
[174] - Quote
Weenheen wrote:First, the new Wine option runs very fine for me and my 5 year old iMac, made me subscribe from trial!
The only bug I could detect is that the market history graph's axes are no longer labeled. The graph is there alright, but you can't make heads an tails out of it without those labels.
Yes, it's a known issue - it's on the top of my list.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Darryn Lowe
Golden Duck Frigate Mining Corp
38
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Posted - 2016.04.10 23:31:26 -
[175] - Quote
+1000000000 for this.
I tried it last night and frankly am now disturbed by the fact the voices in my head are not being drowned by the noise of my fans going mental.
Could you make this default because Cider is full of issues. |
Weenheen
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2016.04.11 09:18:10 -
[176] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Weenheen wrote:First, the new Wine option runs very fine for me and my 5 year old iMac, made me subscribe from trial!
The only bug I could detect is that the market history graph's axes are no longer labeled. The graph is there alright, but you can't make heads an tails out of it without those labels. Yes, it's a known issue - it's on the top of my list.
Oh, sorry, must have missed it's a known issue.
Well, I'll let you get back to rocking on then :D |
Invisusira
Pentag Blade
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
324
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Posted - 2016.04.11 23:56:29 -
[177] - Quote
Didn't look too much into it, so not sure if it's Wine or the Mac client in general, but Citadel graphics on SiSi are pretty glitchy. Shadows rendering very poorly and flickering all over the place.
EVE Music
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Darryn Lowe
Golden Duck Frigate Mining Corp
38
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Posted - 2016.04.12 23:03:01 -
[178] - Quote
I had an issue the other day with scanning with probes.
I get the map show up but the spheres don't show up and I can control my probes.
I couldn't see if anyone else was having this problem and I have to admit I haven't checked it out since. |
Mad Mabata
Sturmgrenadier Inc
Dirt Nap Squad.
0
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Posted - 2016.04.14 01:16:51 -
[179] - Quote
My bookmarks are sorted wrong / different to the Cider/Windows sorting.
That is really annoying when living in a wormhole and trying to have bookmarking schemes...
The game also crashes when jumping gates in high-sec. I had the same issue in Cider, but wine is no improvement there either.
With the SSL remaining a nasty issue that doesn't allow tripwire, I am rolling back to cider now. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
962
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Posted - 2016.04.14 15:51:15 -
[180] - Quote
I'm working on the SSL issue, hope to have to resolved soon.
I'd love to see logs from crashes when jumping gates. If you run with LogLite (enable 'Run clients with logging' in launcher settings), then save the log and attach it to a bug report. Put my name in the title or send me the report id so I get it right away.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Slickrock Wildlight
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.04.21 06:30:39 -
[181] - Quote
EVE unplayable right now.
Updated my system (MacPro2013) to 10.11.4, and it started wigging out. (Prior to the update, I was getting the frequent crashes others have reported).
Under Cider, which had been the default setup, no graphics would load, I'd only get overlay screens. So I found this thread, told the launcher to download all files to improve performance, and switch to Wine.
Wine looks, nicer, but one fatal flaw. No overlays will work. Hit the button for them, and you see them appear to zoom to minimize. I've tried with and without DX9, and multiple Wine versions. Same problem.
Also, when it was in fullscreen on my two-monitor system, the billboard that you see when you are docked would take up the whole screen. Windowed mode got rid of that.
Help!!! |
Niobe Maken
Hydra Inc.
Invictum.
0
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Posted - 2016.04.21 09:46:52 -
[182] - Quote
Unfortunately, it is impossible for me to play EVE Online with WINE, because although I come into play in but everything is just black. It is also not possible a ticket to create or change settings.
IMac late 2013
3,4 GHz Intel Core i5
16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 775M 2048 MB
Wine : Released
Launcher: 1024032
GUI: 1.907
Help needed^^ |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
963
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Posted - 2016.04.21 10:00:21 -
[183] - Quote
Niobe Maken wrote:Unfortunately, it is impossible for me to play EVE Online with WINE, because although I come into play in but everything is just black. It is also not possible a ticket to create or change settings.
IMac late 2013
3,4 GHz Intel Core i5
16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 775M 2048 MB
Wine : Released
Launcher: 1024032
GUI: 1.907
Help needed^^
Please file a bug report with logs:
Go to settings in the launcher, enable 'Run clients with logging'. This will then start up LogLite when you press Play. Once the game has started, let it sit for a minute or so on the black screen, then go to LogLite and save the log.
Then go here: https://community.eveonline.com/support/bug-reports/ and fill in the report (mention my name in the title so I can find it quickly), with as much detail as you can and attach the log file you just saved.
I'll take a look as soon as I can and see if the logs give me a clue as to what is going wrong.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
963
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Posted - 2016.04.21 10:17:36 -
[184] - Quote
Slickrock Wildlight wrote:EVE unplayable right now.
Updated my system (MacPro2013) to 10.11.4, and it started wigging out. (Prior to the update, I was getting the frequent crashes others have reported).
Under Cider, which had been the default setup, no graphics would load, I'd only get overlay screens. So I found this thread, told the launcher to download all files to improve performance, and switch to Wine.
Wine looks, nicer, but one fatal flaw. No overlays will work. Hit the button for them, and you see them appear to zoom to minimize. I've tried with and without DX9, and multiple Wine versions. Same problem.
Also, when it was in fullscreen on my two-monitor system, the billboard that you see when you are docked would take up the whole screen. Windowed mode got rid of that.
Help!!!
I need to see logs - see post above for details on how to file a bug report with logs.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Niobe Maken
Hydra Inc.
Invictum.
0
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Posted - 2016.04.21 11:32:00 -
[185] - Quote
Everytime I try to upload a file (5.3MB) your system told me after 100% "Upload failed" |
Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
256
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Posted - 2016.04.21 13:23:53 -
[186] - Quote
@ CCP Snorlax - it seems a recent patch changed the launch multi-client time back to 1 sec. When I go back to change the settings it is in the 60 sec spot but it shows 1 sec between start up. I have had to do this many time over the last week.
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
- The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
DIDE- is open to new members
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
964
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Posted - 2016.04.21 18:24:15 -
[187] - Quote
Niobe Maken wrote:Everytime I try to upload a file (5.3MB) your system told me after 100% "Upload failed"
external file link added
Report is up
I think I know what-¦s going on - Wine is underestimating available video memory. For now, you could try disabling post-processing. It's a bit bit tricky when there's nothing visible on screen, though. If the client works under Cider you could try switching back, changing settings, then going to Wine again.
I should be able to address this in Wine sometime next week.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Niobe Maken
Hydra Inc.
Invictum.
0
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Posted - 2016.04.21 21:16:17 -
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Post-processing disabled in cider and then switch to WINE - still black screen. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
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Posted - 2016.04.21 22:21:35 -
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Niobe Maken wrote:Post-processing disabled in cider and then switch to WINE - still black screen.
Right, settings are stored in a different place, forgot about that. After you've changed this in Cider you need to copy your settings again. In Preferences in the launcher is a big button labeled 'Copy client settings from Cider to Wine'. Press that after switching back to Wine.
Again, I'm hoping to sort this out next week - this convoluted process is just a temporary workaround.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Slickrock Wildlight
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.04.22 03:11:36 -
[190] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:
I think I know what-¦s going on - Wine is underestimating available video memory. For now, you could try disabling post-processing. It's a bit bit tricky when there's nothing visible on screen, though. If the client works under Cider you could try switching back, changing settings, then going to Wine again.
I should be able to address this in Wine sometime next week.
I've submitted a report.
The memory issue sounds like a probably cause, as what I'm seeing is graphics that fail to load when changing environments (either docking or undocking) or at highest settings overlays don't load.
thanks for looking into this CCP Snorlax!!! |
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Niobe Maken
Hydra Inc.
Invictum.
0
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Posted - 2016.04.22 06:04:26 -
[191] - Quote
Switching post-processing off has no effect.
So I try a little bit and disable antialiasing. *boing*
Everything fine until now with post -processing active. |
Slickrock Wildlight
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.04.23 00:35:24 -
[192] - Quote
Niobe Maken wrote:Switching post-processing off has no effect.
So I try a little bit and disable antialiasing. *boing*
Everything fine until now with post -processing active.
That helped with me as well, but I'm still seeing sporadic instances of the captain's quarters being completely black, or only partially loading, and instances where some popup overlays won't load.
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Slickrock Wildlight
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.04.23 03:20:02 -
[193] - Quote
I discovered what might be part of the problem I'm seeing since my OS update and going to Wine...
Some overlay windows automatically minimize, and I can't get them back open without either docking/undocking or restarting. |
Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
256
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Posted - 2016.04.23 13:18:13 -
[194] - Quote
http://prntscr.com/avtmiz
thats a picture of my settings and i've never had issues with post-processing. and i never have anti-aliasing turned on.
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
- The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
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Bodaaa
SniggWaffe
WAFFLES.
7
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Posted - 2016.04.23 13:59:59 -
[195] - Quote
Retina Windowed mode resolutions issue:
Wine works fantastic in fullscreen in 2880x1800, but unfortunately I am used to play in windowed mode. On Cider this is set at 2560x1600 which nicely takes up the middle of the screen.
Getting this setup is not possible under Wine. If you try windowed mode it reverts to a very low resolution of 1280x800 or even lower if resized. Setting anything higher, the screen is off screen. I am fairly certain the way the retina display works under OS X is the culprit.
Best regards,
PS: does Mumble overlay work with Wine? |
Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
256
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Posted - 2016.04.23 19:57:53 -
[196] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Known issues
- Settings profiles don't migrate automatically
- Launcher needs to be restarted after changing wrapper type
- Launcher needs to be restarted after changing Wine version
- When starting in windowed mode, window grows slightly each time
I believe the last one has been fixed - don't know if I could consider restarting the launcher after changing to wine or changing version of wine would be considered a issue.
Guess it depends on the player.
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
- The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
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Slickrock Wildlight
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.04.24 04:39:55 -
[197] - Quote
One thing's for certain.. with the persistent graphical problems, there's no way I could do anything more that be a mining carebear until these issues are resolved. I almost lost my venture tonight because I couldn't get drones launched, because I couldn't get the drone window to appear. |
Cesar Sunn
Grae Universe Enterprise
EVIAN NATION
0
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Posted - 2016.04.25 13:02:34 -
[198] - Quote
Finally got round to trying this and I'm so chuffed that I can finally spread Eve across two monitors! Woo! Space looks huge now!
One issue I've found is that on undock the camera isn't locked to your ship and I have to select "look at" to lock it. Not a big issue but could be annoying.
Macbook Pro 13 inch 2013
El Capitan 10.11 |
Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
256
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Posted - 2016.04.25 20:26:47 -
[199] - Quote
CCP Snorlax, been having issues that last few days where jumping gates once again is locking up the screen so I can rotate my view tell I change camera type.
Started up after I logged into my alt to do some MCT, had issues on her and now on the main again. This might now be your department but thought you should know.
Happens in Orbit camera mode - have to switch to tactical (might take two to three changes)
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
965
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Posted - 2016.04.25 22:25:06 -
[200] - Quote
Amarisen Gream wrote:CCP Snorlax, been having issues that last few days where jumping gates once again is locking up the screen so I can rotate my view tell I change camera type.
Started up after I logged into my alt to do some MCT, had issues on her and now on the main again. This might now be your department but thought you should know.
Happens in Orbit camera mode - have to switch to tactical (might take two to three changes)
Please file a bug report with logs:
Go to settings in the launcher, enable 'Run clients with logging'. This will then start up LogLite when you press Play. Once you experience the camera issue, then go to LogLite and save the log.
Then go here: https://community.eveonline.com/support/bug-reports/ and fill in the report (mention my name in the title so I can find it quickly), with as much detail as you can and attach the log file you just saved.
I'll take a look as soon as I can and see if the logs give me a clue as to what is going wrong, and get the dev who worked on the camera to help if needed.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Manssell
OmiHyperMultiNationalDrunksConglomerate
Together We Solo
300
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Posted - 2016.04.26 13:54:23 -
[201] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Amarisen Gream wrote:CCP Snorlax, been having issues that last few days where jumping gates once again is locking up the screen so I can rotate my view tell I change camera type.
Started up after I logged into my alt to do some MCT, had issues on her and now on the main again. This might now be your department but thought you should know.
Happens in Orbit camera mode - have to switch to tactical (might take two to three changes) Please file a bug report with logs: Go to settings in the launcher, enable 'Run clients with logging'. This will then start up LogLite when you press Play. Once you experience the camera issue, then go to LogLite and save the log. Then go here: https://community.eveonline.com/support/bug-reports/ and fill in the report (mention my name in the title so I can find it quickly), with as much detail as you can and attach the log file you just saved. I'll take a look as soon as I can and see if the logs give me a clue as to what is going wrong, and get the dev who worked on the camera to help if needed.
Haven't filled a bug report yet, but 'm having the same problem occasionally. The 'fix' I found was to select something out of game (in windowed mode) and then click back in game back and forth a few times. Sometimes this works sometimes you have to change camera modes to get it to work. |
Kevin Felixio
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Disturbed Acquaintance
0
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Posted - 2016.04.26 23:48:18 -
[202] - Quote
Hiya,
First of all, having wine support is amazing! Cider has been gradually doing a worse and worse job of actually performing will, with random FPS drops and taking an ungodly amount of time when undocking, which have all been fixed for me now.
Secondly, I have noticed that "Hide Wine" does not have a shortcut associated with it. Is this a global issue or is this something related to my personal setup? I have currently fixed this issue by adding a custom shortcut in my system preferences.
Lastly, is there a way for me to manually input the window resolution I want? My secondary monitors are only 21" while my iMac is a 27", and I can only choose from resulotions that 'fit' my 27".
With regards,
Kevin |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
967
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Posted - 2016.04.26 23:58:31 -
[203] - Quote
Kevin Felixio wrote:Hiya,
First of all, having wine support is amazing! Cider has been gradually doing a worse and worse job of actually performing will, with random FPS drops and taking an ungodly amount of time when undocking, which have all been fixed for me now.
Secondly, I have noticed that "Hide Wine" does not have a shortcut associated with it. Is this a global issue or is this something related to my personal setup? I have currently fixed this issue by adding a custom shortcut in my system preferences.
Lastly, is there a way for me to manually input the window resolution I want? My secondary monitors are only 21" while my iMac is a 27", and I can only choose from resulotions that 'fit' my 27".
With regards,
Kevin
You know you can resize the window under Wine by dragging on the edges, right?
What do you mean by "Hide Wine"?
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
256
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Posted - 2016.04.27 01:54:03 -
[204] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Kevin Felixio wrote:Hiya,
First of all, having wine support is amazing! Cider has been gradually doing a worse and worse job of actually performing will, with random FPS drops and taking an ungodly amount of time when undocking, which have all been fixed for me now.
Secondly, I have noticed that "Hide Wine" does not have a shortcut associated with it. Is this a global issue or is this something related to my personal setup? I have currently fixed this issue by adding a custom shortcut in my system preferences.
Lastly, is there a way for me to manually input the window resolution I want? My secondary monitors are only 21" while my iMac is a 27", and I can only choose from resulotions that 'fit' my 27".
With regards,
Kevin You know you can resize the window under Wine by dragging on the edges, right? What do you mean by "Hide Wine"?
he means that "clicking wine in the menu bar" (top left)... it doesn't have the command+h option for hiding wine (aka EVE. as the window is labeled wine.
p.s. did you get a cookie at fanfest...
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
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Kevin Felixio
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Disturbed Acquaintance
0
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Posted - 2016.04.27 12:28:49 -
[205] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:
You know you can resize the window under Wine by dragging on the edges, right?
What do you mean by "Hide Wine"?
I'm afraid it's not letting me resize. It's showing me the little resize window curser but nothing happens when I drag. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
967
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Posted - 2016.04.27 12:36:00 -
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Kevin Felixio wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:
You know you can resize the window under Wine by dragging on the edges, right?
What do you mean by "Hide Wine"?
I'm afraid it's not letting me resize. It's showing me the little resize window curser but nothing happens when I drag.
OK, that's something I haven't seen. Guess I'll need to do some testing with multiple monitors.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Kevin Felixio
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Disturbed Acquaintance
0
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Posted - 2016.04.27 19:50:48 -
[207] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Kevin Felixio wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:
You know you can resize the window under Wine by dragging on the edges, right?
What do you mean by "Hide Wine"?
I'm afraid it's not letting me resize. It's showing me the little resize window curser but nothing happens when I drag. OK, that's something I haven't seen. Guess I'll need to do some testing with multiple monitors.
Reporting in with an update: I've been able to resize, but apparently I can only resize the window if I try to resize it in the title bar. Previously I was trying to resize from the bottom-right corner and from the bottom of the window.
A few other things I have noticed (apologies if they've been reported before, couldn't find a list of known issues other than the 4 bullet points in this topic):
- When tabbing out and in of EVE, it often thinks I have ctrl pressed down. Need to hit ctrl on the keyboard myself to reset the down state of the ctrl key
- I can't type any characters that require the alt-key modifier such as \ (alt + shift + :) or Gé¼ (alt + $). I am using an azerty keyboard layout
- Up close all textures are pixelated: https://i.imgur.com/OQky4g9.jpg
- When zooming my camera in or out while in space the "parallax seems to break" as in: The stations/planets/background textures will keep zooming in but not zoom out. I can reset this by looking at an object.
- I keep getting random "Socket Closed" errors today when in space (never when docked), unsure if it's because of patch or because of wine since I switched yesterday.
If there is any way I can help you pin down more issues or provide you with in-depth information about my environment, please let me know how master Snorlax o7 |
Rahl Gryphon
Ovistavin Enterprises
7
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Posted - 2016.04.28 03:07:48 -
[208] - Quote
I submitted a bug report (78333) on this, but I haven't seen it mentioned in this tread.
When running two wine clients I have seen an issue where if I quit one client I can no longer type in the other. The function keys still work for modules. I can't type in the chat, split items or the bug reporting windows.
I have to quit both clients and restart them to fix it. Just reopening one doesn't work. |
Slickrock Wildlight
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.04.30 16:54:48 -
[209] - Quote
Having new problems with the system map since the patch. Unless I turn off post-processing completely, it's a total graphics disaster. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
973
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Posted - 2016.05.02 10:21:55 -
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Slickrock Wildlight wrote:Having new problems with the system map since the patch. Unless I turn off post-processing completely, it's a total graphics disaster.
Working with it more today.. it's a disaster. What's the worst is the map. Can only get the map to load 25% of the time.
It really seems that it's overall memory issues.. I checked the memory usage while Wine/EVE was running, and it wasn't high at all, barely over 1G.. is it simply not getting enough memory allocated? Or is it a graphics memory issue?
Try the following, to ensure the Wine environment is properly set up:
Open the shared cache folder (View menu, Reveal in Finder, Shared Cache) and delete the wine and wineenv folders. Note that if you delete the wineenv folder you will lose all settings. If you want to maintain client settings you can delete everything from within wineenv except drive_c/users.
It seems that updating Wine versions is not a 100% reliable - I'm working on improving this in the launcher.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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jonmar
Enraged Bears
1
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Posted - 2016.05.02 14:54:16 -
[211] - Quote
Rahl Gryphon wrote:I submitted a bug report (78333) on this, but I haven't seen it mentioned in this tread.
When running two wine clients I have seen an issue where if I quit one client I can no longer type in the other. The function keys still work for modules. I can't type in the chat, split items or the bug reporting windows.
I have to quit both clients and restart them to fix it. Just reopening one doesn't work.
I too get this issue. I have found that multiple presses of the Command / Option or Control key frees up the keyboard again.
Usually the Command key suffices but in particularly difficult times all three need to be pressed. |
Dom Aumer
Lone Wolf Union
Yulai Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.05.02 17:41:57 -
[212] - Quote
Dom Aumer wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:Dom Aumer wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:Configuring the EVE client to run under WINE worked without a hitch, but I'm unable to access the general settings menu (ESC) to reconfigure anything. I just turns the screen greyscale and nothing appears. The lack of this menu and the functionality of command keys is a deal killer at this point, unfortunately. That and the ability to import existing settings. I seemed to be having the same issue. Windows (including the Esc -> settings window) weren't properly stacking and windows disappeared upon trying to open/close things (i.e. they were there since I could see tooltips but the windows themselves were invisible). This was only an issue when I was out in space, not in the character selection screen. My character normally was logged out in a POS and I found when I docked/undocked the in-space window issues were fixed (one time I had to dock/undock twice). Please file a bug report in game right after this happens, I need to see logs. Even better if you have full logs from LogLite - attach to the bug report. Done & done. EBR-74128 Thanks for the Wine support!
For those still having an issue with randomly disappearing windows, this helpful fellow's fix (just deleting the Wine cache) worked for me. Also remember to check that you're using Dx9.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6469499#post6469499
I will update my bug report. |
Peter Grayson
PARABELUM-Project
Vendetta Mercenary Group
21
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Posted - 2016.05.03 18:01:28 -
[213] - Quote
Just reactivate my account after few months of pause, and gave a try to Wine wraperGǪ Everything run smoothly, excellent work on this! BRAVO ! |
Xibita Silva
BlackOps Silva Squadron
0
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Posted - 2016.05.06 14:10:26 -
[214] - Quote
I'm looking... but i'm not finding the "preferences" in the launcher where i can activate the wine wrapper.
Can i get a screenshot or something to point me to the right direction? Thanks ;) |
Slickrock Wildlight
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2016.05.06 22:56:24 -
[215] - Quote
Dear CCP Snorlax,
Thanks for all your work on this. The last two builds have been really stable, and the window-disappearing issues have gone away (deleting those other cache files may have been part of that).
The game's running really well right now. Thanks again for all your efforts to help us!
o7 |
Alicia Dnari
Dnari Mining and Manufacturing
5
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Posted - 2016.05.10 00:07:09 -
[216] - Quote
This seems like a great idea, but it doesn't work for me. I switched to Wine in launcher prefs, the launcher downloaded wine, but then every time I try to launch eve, wine starts up and then crashes tryng to execute some xxxexe.exe thing (I don't remember the name). After four tries, I'm going back to cider. The damn client may be crashing regularly, but at least I get a few minutes in the game.
If this keeps up, though, I guess I'll have to cancel my four accounts. :-( |
Katia Echerie
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
36
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Posted - 2016.05.11 04:16:16 -
[217] - Quote
If you are using Cider try this fix https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=480596&find=unread.
It worked for me and may as well do the trick for you. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3844
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Posted - 2016.05.20 18:32:52 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:Weenheen wrote:First, the new Wine option runs very fine for me and my 5 year old iMac, made me subscribe from trial!
The only bug I could detect is that the market history graph's axes are no longer labeled. The graph is there alright, but you can't make heads an tails out of it without those labels. Yes, it's a known issue - it's on the top of my list.
CCP Snorlax, is this still at the top of your list? I'm still missing the labels.
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
992
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Posted - 2016.05.20 19:01:43 -
[219] - Quote
Vincent Athena wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:Weenheen wrote:First, the new Wine option runs very fine for me and my 5 year old iMac, made me subscribe from trial!
The only bug I could detect is that the market history graph's axes are no longer labeled. The graph is there alright, but you can't make heads an tails out of it without those labels. Yes, it's a known issue - it's on the top of my list. CCP Snorlax, is this still at the top of your list? I'm still missing the labels.
Apologies. I thought that fix was out. I'll take another look.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Bodaaa
SniggWaffe
WAFFLES.
7
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Posted - 2016.05.21 17:22:06 -
[220] - Quote
CCP Snorlax, have you had the chance to into the resolution issue on retina macs under Wine? |
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Scooter Nelson
Dutch East Querious Company
Asteria Concord.
0
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Posted - 2016.06.01 17:24:32 -
[221] - Quote
I have been using EVE Online on my i-Mac 17" - 2013, 2011 and 2012 MacBook Pro 15" and 2015 MacBook Pro 15" Retina. Ever since the ability was added use WINE through the new Launcher, it has been much better.
Dragging to re-size windows, running 2 accounts at the same time, no lockups when 1 of the 2 running accounts were running - these don't happen anymore.
There was one time, where I experience some corruption, but to remove all the variables, I blew out all the EVE files, in the library folder and everywhere else, to insure a clean install. This is often key, not just in EVE but in many apps. I had MS Office for Mac 2016 since the early betas last year, and wiping out all of it, and then a fresh install as cured any ills I have had with that product.
So when it doubt, clean it all out - and re-download the whole thing...its worth the time.
I use my iMac 2013 with 10.11.5 and always keep the OS up to date. Same with my 2015 MacBook Pro 15" w/Retina. Minimal problems, except high heat and fan speeds on the MB Pro.
I occasionally have a failure (once every 10-15 hours of play time - not all at once) but only when running dual accounts at same time.
Nice work CCP and keep it up.
Scooter |
Bodaaa
SniggWaffe
WAFFLES.
7
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Posted - 2016.06.01 19:14:55 -
[222] - Quote
Scooter Nelson wrote:I have been using EVE Online on my i-Mac 17" - 2013, 2011 and 2012 MacBook Pro 15" and 2015 MacBook Pro 15" Retina. Ever since the ability was added use WINE through the new Launcher, it has been much better. Dragging to re-size windows, running 2 accounts at the same time, no lockups when 1 of the 2 running accounts were running - these don't happen anymore. There was one time, where I experience some corruption, but to remove all the variables, I blew out all the EVE files, in the library folder and everywhere else, to insure a clean install. This is often key, not just in EVE but in many apps. I had MS Office for Mac 2016 since the early betas last year, and wiping out all of it, and then a fresh install as cured any ills I have had with that product. So when it doubt, clean it all out - and re-download the whole thing...its worth the time. I use my iMac 2013 with 10.11.5 and always keep the OS up to date. Same with my 2015 MacBook Pro 15" w/Retina. Minimal problems, except high heat and fan speeds on the MB Pro. I occasionally have a failure (once every 10-15 hours of play time - not all at once) but only when running dual accounts at same time. Nice work CCP and keep it up. Scooter
Do you play in full screen?
What resolution can you play windowed on the MPBR? |
Scooter Nelson
Dutch East Querious Company
Asteria Concord.
0
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Posted - 2016.06.02 00:15:12 -
[223] - Quote
Bodaaa wrote:Scooter Nelson wrote:I have been using EVE Online on my i-Mac 17" - 2013, 2011 and 2012 MacBook Pro 15" and 2015 MacBook Pro 15" Retina. Ever since the ability was added use WINE through the new Launcher, it has been much better. Dragging to re-size windows, running 2 accounts at the same time, no lockups when 1 of the 2 running accounts were running - these don't happen anymore. There was one time, where I experience some corruption, but to remove all the variables, I blew out all the EVE files, in the library folder and everywhere else, to insure a clean install. This is often key, not just in EVE but in many apps. I had MS Office for Mac 2016 since the early betas last year, and wiping out all of it, and then a fresh install as cured any ills I have had with that product. So when it doubt, clean it all out - and re-download the whole thing...its worth the time. I use my iMac 2013 with 10.11.5 and always keep the OS up to date. Same with my 2015 MacBook Pro 15" w/Retina. Minimal problems, except high heat and fan speeds on the MB Pro. I occasionally have a failure (once every 10-15 hours of play time - not all at once) but only when running dual accounts at same time. Nice work CCP and keep it up. Scooter Do you play in full screen? What resolution can you play windowed on the MPBR?
I play full screen or Windowed...running up to about 1800 x 1000? Not sure exactly...but no troubles. sometimes I also run 2 accounts at the same time, but the MBP gets very hot
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Mavin Shaaderin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.06.02 03:38:17 -
[224] - Quote
So far I'm finding the Wine port to be stable, but it is extremely slow to launch the client. Usually takes two minutes before it starts kicking the GPU into the graphics mode it expects to run in. While the Cider client was slow as well, this is much worse. I can't tell if it is even launching for over two minutes. Running on a 2010 iMac 27" with upgraded GPU (Radeon 6970M 1GB), 2.98GHz i7 with 8GB. |
Scooter Nelson
Dutch East Querious Company
Asteria Concord.
0
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Posted - 2016.06.02 21:31:57 -
[225] - Quote
Mavin Shaaderin wrote:So far I'm finding the Wine port to be stable, but it is extremely slow to launch the client. Usually takes two minutes before it starts kicking the GPU into the graphics mode it expects to run in. While the Cider client was slow as well, this is much worse. I can't tell if it is even launching for over two minutes. Running on a 2010 iMac 27" with upgraded GPU (Radeon 6970M 1GB), 2.98GHz i7 with 8GB.
Very strange. Never had this problem or anything even close. If you have the time, I would wipe it all out and re-install fresh. |
Syrix Death
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2016.06.03 13:39:47 -
[226] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:In an effort to offer more officially supported ways to play EVE on Mac we are now providing support for Wine in addition to Cider.
Could we please have a *.dmg-like launcher for debian too? It's really awsome you guys make such efforts for MAC users. But i think it is really important to give also debian users a launcher for EVE. Especially since DX9 support is going to phase out. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
1047
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Posted - 2016.06.03 13:45:26 -
[227] - Quote
Syrix Death wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:In an effort to offer more officially supported ways to play EVE on Mac we are now providing support for Wine in addition to Cider. Could we please have a *.dmg-like launcher for debian too? It's really awsome you guys make such efforts for MAC users. But i think it is really important to give also debian users a launcher for EVE. Especially since DX9 support is going to phase out.
Have you seen this post: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6503381#post6503381
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Viliana Ovaert
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
4
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Posted - 2016.06.05 03:38:51 -
[228] - Quote
Since switching to Wine, I noticed that the Mumble overlay no longer appears in the game client, but *does* appear on the launcher instead. Switching back to Cider fixes this.
Anyone else encounter this and/or know how to resolve? |
brou Saissore
Knight's Cloning Company
My Other Laboratory is a Distillery
1
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Posted - 2016.06.05 22:42:33 -
[229] - Quote
Shock Lee wrote:My launcher reports to be v.2.2.999545 - any idea how to get that updated to the newest version?
Ok - never mind... Figured it out...
Dear Bob, please tell us how! I have that exact launcher version. |
Bro Saissore
Knight's Cloning Company
My Other Laboratory is a Distillery
0
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Posted - 2016.06.05 22:50:13 -
[230] - Quote
brou Saissore wrote:Shock Lee wrote:My launcher reports to be v.2.2.999545 - any idea how to get that updated to the newest version?
Ok - never mind... Figured it out... Dear Bob, please tell us how! I have that exact launcher version.
For future reference, the solution is to grab the latest launcher from https://community.eveonline.com/support/download/
After getting the new launcher, the settings for wine etc are accessed by going to the mac menu bar (usually at the top of the screen), click EVE launcher, select "Preferences....". HTH. |
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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1724
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Posted - 2016.06.07 09:57:50 -
[231] - Quote
Bro Saissore wrote:...the settings for wine etc are accessed by going to the mac menu bar....". HTH.
Holy mother.... 
I've been looking at the launcher screen for ages (6 weeks) and couldn't find the options and brushed it off as me being dumb (probably true) and unlucky as per usual not getting the right launcher.
Jebus frkk... -.- 
Thanks bro! |
Miss Scordite
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.06.07 10:55:30 -
[232] - Quote
Mouse scrolling seems to be accelerated now, after moving from cider to wine. When i try to scroll with the two-finger gesture on a trackpad with the usual speed, the scrolling is so slow that a list almost doesn't move. I have to do a quick swing to make a list scroll and that makes it impossible to find specific entry in long lists. My environment is el captain on mac book pro with a force touch trackpad. |
Barefeats
Catapan Enterprises UK
0
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Posted - 2016.06.07 12:41:05 -
[233] - Quote
Seems to work fine on launch... command keys don't work, but you folks know that.
Graphics look a lot better.
iMac Retina 5K, OSX 10.11.5 |
Barefeats
Catapan Enterprises UK
0
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Posted - 2016.06.07 13:00:09 -
[234] - Quote
Forgot to say I am running 3 clients... seems stable.
thanks CCP for support to Mac community. |
Dan Ende
Royal Caldari Air Force
1
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Posted - 2016.06.07 16:20:34 -
[235] - Quote
been running WINE for some time now. With Cider I was getting frequent freezes and lockups with my IMac Retina, running WINE fixed that.
The only thing I have to figure out is how to get the system to automatically accept the Wine Server. At the moment just after the character selection, the screen clears and shows me Wine wants to accept connection Allow or Deny -- I accept Allow and then have to select the WINE server from the dock to start
Its not a big issue, but one I would like to resolve., |
Maya DeReneau
Stealth Tactics and Reconnaissance Service
Sock Puppet Federation
1
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Posted - 2016.06.07 23:40:18 -
[236] - Quote
I was really hoping for the improved performance that others have been seeing running under WINE, but unfortunately for me it's just the opposite. WINE did clear up the problem of lagging for up to a minute after jumping through gates (which I haven't seen in Cider lately either), but in every other way the performance is far worse. Even with minimal graphics settings the client stutters and lags constantly and is pretty much unplayable for anything but station spinning. Maybe my 2007 iMac (2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo, 4 GB RAM, ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro with a whopping 256 MB of video RAM) is getting too long in the tooth. It just seems strange that most seem to see a speed increase and I see a major performance hit. Could there be some setting that needs to be adjusted due to the low amount of video memory? |
Utremi Fasolasi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
487
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Posted - 2016.06.08 00:56:19 -
[237] - Quote
Wine version is working a lot better for me than Cider was but there seems to be a lot of missing graphics effects like active shield and armor mod effects and such. |
Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
265
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Posted - 2016.06.08 01:54:10 -
[238] - Quote
Maya DeReneau wrote:I was really hoping for the improved performance that others have been seeing running under WINE, but unfortunately for me it's just the opposite. WINE did clear up the problem of lagging for up to a minute after jumping through gates (which I haven't seen in Cider lately either), but in every other way the performance is far worse. Even with minimal graphics settings the client stutters and lags constantly and is pretty much unplayable for anything but station spinning. Maybe my 2007 iMac (2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo, 4 GB RAM, ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro with a whopping 256 MB of video RAM) is getting too long in the tooth. It just seems strange that most seem to see a speed increase and I see a major performance hit. Could there be some setting that needs to be adjusted due to the low amount of video memory?
With the age of your computer, I you won't see much. your running a core 2 duo (used to sell those babies). 64bit processor that is crippled by the OS to run 32 bit.
Most people who are seeing improvements are seeing them on 64bit processors (meaning the OS can do more), plus WINE has more room to breath. Now EVE is 32bit, but I have 4 64bit processors, and you have 2 32(64 bit cripples)...
So in all understanding. . . your computer is long in the tooth. I hope you can afford a new one.
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
- The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
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Scimitar585
Onimac Industries
0
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Posted - 2016.06.08 05:40:14 -
[239] - Quote
I found the new Launcher option to use WINE worked brilliantly. I was using WINE via the shell before since the CIDER version has always been problematic for me, lock ups, and when I compared it recently to my WINE version I didn't like the CIDER look. My only complaint I had before was the market place, it looked like I was missing a font or two so the graph was missing some information.
Since using the new Launcher with WINE built in, it has fixed the market place, made it much easier to keep up to date and hasn't failed or even locked up once yet.. (I use the fixed window option that thankfully was still available which removed the only problem I knew of when switching back into the game).
I'm delighted with it.. Thank you CCP Devs.
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Dan Ende
Royal Caldari Air Force
1
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Posted - 2016.06.08 06:14:56 -
[240] - Quote
Dan Ende wrote:been running WINE for some time now. With Cider I was getting frequent freezes and lockups with my IMac Retina, running WINE fixed that.
The only thing I have to figure out is how to get the system to automatically accept the Wine Server. At the moment just after the character selection, the screen clears and shows me Wine wants to accept connection Allow or Deny -- I accept Allow and then have to select the WINE server from the dock to start
Its not a big issue, but one I would like to resolve.,
this is not an issue now, thankyou cpp |
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
2544
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Posted - 2016.06.08 06:18:21 -
[241] - Quote
In general, I agree that WINE support has made for a much smoother experience. But there is still one strange behaviour I consistently get with opening a new contract. It takes a long time. Like a minute or two long to create a contract when I select some items and choose 'Create Contract' from the right-click menu. But this delay only seems to happen for the first one. If I create a second contract it works near instant as usual.
Anyone else seeing this behaviour?
Why Do They Gank?
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Neve Talie-Ko
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2016.06.08 16:18:00 -
[242] - Quote
Thanks for the Wine support.
I got the in game browser back!
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Tass Caffington
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
6
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Posted - 2016.06.08 20:04:27 -
[243] - Quote
I switched to Wine yesterday.
However, the settings were not copied although I clicked the copy-button.
How can I fix this?
regards,
Tass
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
"We're not happy until you're content!"
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Grella Khurelem
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2016.06.08 22:55:37 -
[244] - Quote
Wine looks fine, but there are problems in a windowed environment that forced me to switch back so I can use multiple clients.
The problems are with every button on the screen. The location of where they are activated seem to be off by a half-inch or so on the screen. I'm assuming that this is related to the window bar, but I'm not exactly sure.
I've also not been able to get multiple clients to run at the same time either, but I'll need to try that again another day. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
1055
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Posted - 2016.06.08 23:02:02 -
[245] - Quote
Grella Khurelem wrote:Wine looks fine, but there are problems in a windowed environment that forced me to switch back so I can use multiple clients.
The problems are with every button on the screen. The location of where they are activated seem to be off by a half-inch or so on the screen. I'm assuming that this is related to the window bar, but I'm not exactly sure.
I've also not been able to get multiple clients to run at the same time either, but I'll need to try that again another day.
I've noticed this intermittently when running on my laptop, but haven't yet seen a reliable repro, making it hard to track down. When this has happened, resizing the window has resolved the issue. I know this isn't ideal, but it's a workaround at least.
I will keep an eye on this issue and see if I can fix it. If anyone runs into this and finds a reliable repro case I'd be very interested to hear about it.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
265
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Posted - 2016.06.08 23:32:17 -
[246] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Grella Khurelem wrote:Wine looks fine, but there are problems in a windowed environment that forced me to switch back so I can use multiple clients.
The problems are with every button on the screen. The location of where they are activated seem to be off by a half-inch or so on the screen. I'm assuming that this is related to the window bar, but I'm not exactly sure.
I've also not been able to get multiple clients to run at the same time either, but I'll need to try that again another day. I've noticed this intermittently when running on my laptop, but haven't yet seen a reliable repro, making it hard to track down. When this has happened, resizing the window has resolved the issue. I know this isn't ideal, but it's a workaround at least. I will keep an eye on this issue and see if I can fix it. If anyone runs into this and finds a reliable repro case I'd be very interested to hear about it.
I have been using WINE since i first learned about it. I only run windowed mode, lowest graphic settings.
The only thing i have issues with is every once in awhile you go to click and the mouse drags, the camera pans slowly. it seems this has something with the control/option/alt/command key seeming to become sticky. focusing on a different client/application seems to fix it most times, or changing the camera.
If there was only a way to log everything and have it send the logs at the push of a button, vs trying to file bug reports overtime.
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
- The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
DIDE- is open to new members
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Ian Tucenghi
EVE University
Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2016.06.09 02:34:55 -
[247] - Quote
Hi All,
Does switching to wine helps in lowering the heat that is generated by Mac while playing EVE? Further, it is now worth the switch? I would love to hear your guidance and advise on this matter.
Thank you, and Fly safe o7 |
Trisk Hurenlor
The Amarr Republic
Allied Industries
0
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Posted - 2016.06.09 03:27:00 -
[248] - Quote
Spent 20 minutes typing up my experience. Pressed "Post", nothing got posted, back button didn't show all I wrote. So here's the super short version:
I too had v.2.2.999545 launcher.
- had to read 12 pages to see the solution (yes i googled, but didn't want to invest huge amounts of time until i had confirmation - Thanks Bro!!)
- ran old launcher once to get latest updates. installed new launcher, which loaded 82 MB more data then automatically installed yet a newer launcher which loaded another 50 MB of data
- ran Eve (left launcher on Cider for first run)
- lost all settings, bookmarks, overview and chat channels
- switched to Wine, restarted launcher, ran Eve - seems a little better, more Mac compliant (app switcher shows other apps when in Eve).
Op: Can you edit your 1st post and add the solution for those with launcher v.2.2.999545. Include a warning about losing settings, bookmarks, overview and chat channels. Thanks.
Regards,
Trisk
P.S. Now I know to copy my reply to clipboard before pressing "POST". Here's hoping it works this time. |
Ian Tucenghi
EVE University
Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2016.06.09 13:17:59 -
[249] - Quote
Ian Tucenghi wrote:Hi All,
Does switching to wine helps in lowering the heat that is generated by Mac while playing EVE? Further, it is now worth the switch? I would love to hear your guidance and advise on this matter.
Thank you, and Fly safe o7
In addition to the above, I took the plunge and tried wine. At the initial stage, it was all good and I can feel that it was light to the resources and the heat was down. It was pretty nice. However, it broke down specifically my mouse did not work and can't correctly press the UI in the game. Hence, I had to go back to Cider.
But I like wine. I hope it gets fixed soon.
I am running a MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Mid 2014) with the following specs:
2.6 GHz Intel Core i5
8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
intel Iris 1536 MB
Thank you, and looking forward to a more stable wine.
Fly Safe o7 |
zuranus
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2016.06.09 14:18:25 -
[250] - Quote
Linux user here ,just installed the new launcher (1045952.1.948) with wine and was successfull launching the game but
no luck with saving/copying my settings.
Hope to see wine option in the launcher for my Linux machine
Good work CCP! |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
1056
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Posted - 2016.06.09 14:24:49 -
[251] - Quote
zuranus wrote:Linux user here ,just installed the new launcher (1045952.1.948) with wine and was successfull launching the game but
no luck with saving/copying my settings.
Hope to see wine option in the launcher for my Linux machine
Good work CCP!
You mean like this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6503381#post6503381 ?
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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zuranus
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2016.06.09 21:45:10 -
[252] - Quote
Arg.. somehow I thought mac clients had a different directx version since directx9 is phasing out ,hmm well
fingers crossed that wine comes up with directx11 soon.
I'm able to play for now with the new launcher . |
Coyote DelSur
Kontained Chaos
Demonic Wheat Pineapple
0
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Posted - 2016.06.10 00:31:20 -
[253] - Quote
Last night I switched to the new Wine and lost the Command Click. The game is all but unplayable now.
A support ticket has produced no response in close to a full day.
Any ideas? |
Johny Rambo
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2016.06.10 04:50:56 -
[254] - Quote
Use control?
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Runsha
Pearlgate Associates
15
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Posted - 2016.06.10 06:15:37 -
[255] - Quote
Black Pedro wrote:In general, I agree that WINE support has made for a much smoother experience. But there is still one strange behaviour I consistently get with opening a new contract. It takes a long time. Like a minute or two long to create a contract when I select some items and choose 'Create Contract' from the right-click menu. But this delay only seems to happen for the first one. If I create a second contract it works near instant as usual.
Anyone else seeing this behaviour?
Have had that issue for quite some time. Like you said its only first contract I create each session and its not that long so figured was just a matter of loading assets not used except for contracts. |
Runsha
Pearlgate Associates
15
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Posted - 2016.06.10 06:40:24 -
[256] - Quote
I seem to be the odd one out here even as far as Mac users goes. At least not seen anyone else comment that is using a Mini. So figure I should toss out my two bits on what I'm seeing with Wine. (and I mean other than the faint vapor trails from drinking it)
MAC Mini (Mid 2011)
2.5Ghz Intel Core i5
8GB 1333 MHz DDR3
AMD Radeon HD 6630M 256 MB
Had to swear at it a few times and kill the new launcher before it finally took over from the old one and stopped hanging up. Had to play with it a bit before figured out how to get it to transfer settings then wanted to facepalm as its kinda obvious when you do figure it out. (delete the "default" settings when you do transfer so that it now defaults to what you transferred).
First run I had a couple instances where things paused while Wine data was loaded but was not long and has not occurred since. (I did not have any form of Wine loaded previous). Run in Windowed mode normally and tho I did notice my "notifications" button has drifted a bit and seems a few previously unpinned windows somehow became pinned, I have not noticed the window size to alter between sessions. Tho I honestly did not look to verify the resolution numbers so it might have grown slightly.
Only real item of notice came after about 90 minutes online with lots of jumps and docking transitions. And that that there started to be a screen shear during transition. By this I mean I started getting what appears to be a brief (half a second to 2 seconds) period during transition where screen used to go black and now is a fairly colorful burst of cubic noise. Tried to grab a screenshot but so far not caught it. Will keep trying tho.
Definitely seem to be able to run higher better graphics levels without the lag it used to cause so overall I'm a much happier MAC than I was just a week ago. |
Coyote DelSur
Kontained Chaos
Demonic Wheat Pineapple
0
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Posted - 2016.06.10 13:07:08 -
[257] - Quote
Johny Rambo wrote:Use control?
I tried that, but it didn't work either. |
Kai Lyn Katano
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2016.06.10 17:55:16 -
[258] - Quote
How does one capture screenshots under Wine? With Cider I used the extended-keyboard key, "Print Screen" (located above the Insert, Delete, Home, End, Page Up, Page Down sextet). Since upgrading to Wine, no new png files show up on my disk searches which tells me that my screenshots are no longer getting captured. |
Coyote DelSur
Kontained Chaos
Demonic Wheat Pineapple
0
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Posted - 2016.06.10 22:22:47 -
[259] - Quote
Coyote DelSur wrote:Last night I switched to the new Wine and lost the Command Click. The game is all but unplayable now.
A support ticket has produced no response in close to a full day.
Any ideas?
Over two days now and no response to the support ticket, no usable response here, and no usable response in Help Chat or OS X Chat.
I can't undock until this gets fixed.
Do I have to go back to Cider? If so, for how long will that be supported. Is that going to be discontinued on June 30?
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Coyote DelSur
Kontained Chaos
Demonic Wheat Pineapple
0
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Posted - 2016.06.11 02:35:04 -
[260] - Quote
Coyote DelSur wrote:Coyote DelSur wrote:Last night I switched to the new Wine and lost the Command Click. The game is all but unplayable now.
A support ticket has produced no response in close to a full day.
Any ideas? Over two days now and no response to the support ticket, no usable response here, and no usable response in Help Chat or OS X Chat. I can't undock until this gets fixed. Do I have to go back to Cider? If so, for how long will that be supported. Is that going to be discontinued on June 30?
Screwit. I went back to Cider--and lost all my settings again.
If Cider disappears on June 30, so do I. |
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Johny Rambo
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2016.06.11 06:39:22 -
[261] - Quote
Rather than spamming this thread with "I'm leaving, byeeeeee" posts, it would be more helpful if you would give example of what exactly you are trying to do, how and which bit does not work.
This way you may get some reasonable response.
Try to describe your problem in more details.
EDIT: Just checked and for my wine setup, both command and control work same way.
If neither if these works for you, you must be doing something wrong.
Therefore - examples please. |
Kyriacou Kansene
Yaya's Play Palace
5
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Posted - 2016.06.11 09:25:01 -
[262] - Quote
I had similar experience as some other users setting up the new wine wrapper and am happy with the switch over and improvements to graphic quality.
A couple of minor things bug me, first when the Eve game window first opens (windowed mode) it's not quite at 0,0, and I have to drag it a few pixels over to the edge. I'm guessing a quick line of script could be inserted to get it to open at 0,0 or I could wright it myself...
Other thing I have noticed is the count stepper in the industry window has buggy functionality, in that I can only manualy use it with the up and down arrows, and the mouse wheel no longer automaticaly dose this and when I move my mouse pointer off the steppers it seems to wind back any progress if i wiggle my mouse around to much. [I'll file a bug report...]. |
Coyote DelSur
Kontained Chaos
Demonic Wheat Pineapple
0
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Posted - 2016.06.11 14:12:40 -
[263] - Quote
Johny Rambo wrote:Rather than spamming this thread with "I'm leaving, byeeeeee" posts, it would be more helpful if you would give example of what exactly you are trying to do, how and which bit does not work.
This way you may get some reasonable response.
Try to describe your problem in more details.
EDIT: Just checked and for my wine setup, both command and control work same way.
If neither of these work for you, you must be doing something wrong.
Therefore - examples please.
I did describe the problem--the Command-Click no longer works. I tried the Control-Click and that doesn't work. I tried a number of other combinations, and nothing did what the old Command-Click used to do. That means I can't select groups of any kind and access the little menus that Command-Click used to bring up.
I switched back to Cider and everything worked fine.
But if Cider is what is being discontinued on June 30, I have no idea what to do next. |
Khazdurak Kor
Signal Cartel
EvE-Scout Enclave
0
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Posted - 2016.06.11 16:18:27 -
[264] - Quote
Ian Tucenghi wrote:Hi All,
Does switching to wine helps in lowering the heat that is generated by Mac while playing EVE? Further, it is now worth the switch? I would love to hear your guidance and advise on this matter.
Thank you, and Fly safe o7
I have a 2011 iMac. With cider and the osx version, it used to get very very hot, occasional crashes. With wine, it's probably half as hot, runs much smoother with all high settings and no crashes.
To be perfectly honest, it's not a straight forward process to get wine, macports etc. properly installed if you're not too familiar with the console; and the instructions are sometimes vague, but once it's setup, it's absolutely worth it.
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Johny Rambo
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2016.06.11 17:48:08 -
[265] - Quote
Coyote DelSur wrote:
I did describe the problem--the Command-Click no longer works. I tried the Control-Click and that doesn't work. I tried a number of other combinations, and nothing did what the old Command-Click used to do. That means I can't select groups of any kind and access the little menus that Command-Click used to bring up.
Finally!
So the PC-right-click functionality no longer works?
You're using Macbook or standalone Mac?
On Macbook double tap (as in 2 fingers on touchpad) does that.
With Mac and standard Mac mouse, probably someone can advise what is the correct way to do it (I asm using MBA).
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Coyote DelSur
Kontained Chaos
Demonic Wheat Pineapple
0
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Posted - 2016.06.11 19:42:32 -
[266] - Quote
Johny Rambo wrote:Coyote DelSur wrote:
I did describe the problem--the Command-Click no longer works. I tried the Control-Click and that doesn't work. I tried a number of other combinations, and nothing did what the old Command-Click used to do. That means I can't select groups of any kind and access the little menus that Command-Click used to bring up.
Finally! So the PC-right-click functionality no longer works? You're using Macbook or standalone Mac? On Macbook double tap (as in 2 fingers on touchpad) does that. With Mac and standard Mac mouse, probably someone can advise what is the correct way to do it (I asm using MBA).
I'm using a standard iMac and mouse. |
Vimalakirti Bassui
It Cannont Be Named
0
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Posted - 2016.06.11 19:54:55 -
[267] - Quote
Hi guys. I have been running Eve via Wine on my mac for a couple of years now. I usually run the latest version of wine-devel (currently 1.9.12). So I have a process to keep it up to date and some other windows applications installed that I run.
I've tried the newest Mac launcher and once I worked out the settings issues everything seems to work well. But, is it possible to have the new Mac launcher run Eve via my already installed version of wine? Or does it only work with the launchers pre-packaged versions of wine? Maybe some way to point the launcher (via a config file) at my own version of wine?
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chbm
Tribal Mist
Independent Operators Consortium
4
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Posted - 2016.06.12 10:40:56 -
[268] - Quote
Just a quick note, I had a crash on startup due to incompatibility with
/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/HAL/RazerAudio.plugin
Luckily I don't have any razor audio stuff so I just deleted that and the now EVE starts under wine.
If you have this problem you exefile.exe crashing in source/RzAudioSettings/TwinkleMac/NahimicAPO_Mac/NahimicAPO_Mac |
chbm
Tribal Mist
Independent Operators Consortium
4
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Posted - 2016.06.12 10:59:05 -
[269] - Quote
Another note, copy profile did work except for window / full mode which defaulted to full screen. Apart from that all the other settings were there. |
Johny Rambo
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2016.06.12 11:57:50 -
[270] - Quote
Coyote DelSur wrote:
I'm using a standard iMac and mouse.
I just checked - double tap on mouse should work same way as on touchpad.
Did you use gestures on Mac before?
More on Mac gestures here: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204895
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Mad Mabata
Sturmgrenadier Inc
Dirt Nap Squad.
0
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Posted - 2016.06.12 14:52:43 -
[271] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:I'm working on the SSL issue, hope to have to resolved soon.
I'd love to see logs from crashes when jumping gates. If you run with LogLite (enable 'Run clients with logging' in launcher settings), then save the log and attach it to a bug report. Put my name in the title or send me the report id so I get it right away.
Hey, thanks for your support!
I was just checking back on wine and only now saw your answer, I apologize.
The SSL issue seems resolved, great work!!! I will keep you posted about the jumping gates issue in HS. I had it recently again and again in when jumping gates in highest on Cider. We will see if it occurs in wine.
I stick to wine now again. I keep you posted how it goes! |
Mad Mabata
Sturmgrenadier Inc
Dirt Nap Squad.
0
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Posted - 2016.06.12 18:02:17 -
[272] - Quote
Mad Mabata wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:I'm working on the SSL issue, hope to have to resolved soon.
I'd love to see logs from crashes when jumping gates. If you run with LogLite (enable 'Run clients with logging' in launcher settings), then save the log and attach it to a bug report. Put my name in the title or send me the report id so I get it right away. Hey, thanks for your support! I was just checking back on wine and only now saw your answer, I apologize. The SSL issue seems resolved, great work!!! I will keep you posted about the jumping gates issue in HS. I had it recently again and again in when jumping gates in highest on Cider. We will see if it occurs in wine. I stick to wine now again. I keep you posted how it goes!
Hello again, I can report the following things:
- The bookmarks appear in a different order than to Cider / Windows EVE versions.
See http://i.imgur.com/KEHff0a.png
The # should be before . and it would be tremendous if we could make this improvement happen!
- I cannot paste signatures into Tripwire. It works under Cider but not Wine. See Dev post here: https://bitbucket.org/daimian/tripwire/issues/126/cant-copy-paste-signatures-into-tripwire#comment-None
This again seems like a deal breaker bug for folks that live in w-space and relay on mappers like tripwire.
- Finally, referring to the quoted posts, I can report that after several hours of high-sec jumping I have not experienced any crashes.
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Krassus Mena
Abusive Authority Act
0
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Posted - 2016.06.12 20:07:10 -
[273] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:Limyh Oteo wrote:...........
- one additional minus - can't use mac keyboard shortcuts -command + c and command +v or command + q. I can live without them, but if at all possible - those would be nice. Still totally worth it.
+ addtional plus - IGB does not get stuck on the black screen. At least it has not for me. Do the PC versions work, where you use control instead of command? Control key ought to work. I'll see what I can do about enabling Command key as well.
Neither works inside IGB. Tripwire in my case. |
Tass Caffington
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
6
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Posted - 2016.06.13 09:46:25 -
[274] - Quote
Wine looks pretty neat and it performes better than the cider wrapper.
However, I cannot get the CTRL- ALT- CMD-keys running. I can't
even cmd-Tab out of eve.
Did I miss some setting or option? Is there a workaround?
regards,
Tass
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
"We're not happy until you're content!"
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Coyote DelSur
Kontained Chaos
Demonic Wheat Pineapple
0
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Posted - 2016.06.14 02:20:06 -
[275] - Quote
Tass Caffington wrote:Wine looks pretty neat and it performes better than the cider wrapper.
However, I cannot get the CTRL- ALT- CMD-keys running. I can't
even cmd-Tab out of eve.
Did I miss some setting or option? Is there a workaround?
regards,
Tass
EDIT:
Ok, the keys are working now after I switched back to cider and then
back again to wine.
the only thing that does not work is the ALT-key in text-input, e.g. I
cannot type a @ or Gé¼ or any other character which does need the
ALT-key.
any suggestions on that?
o7
I switched from Cider back to Wine, but my missing Command-Click keys didn't come back. Nor any of the other combinations. |
Tass Caffington
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
6
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Posted - 2016.06.14 06:39:28 -
[276] - Quote
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Tass Caffington
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
6
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Posted - 2016.06.14 06:40:35 -
[277] - Quote
Coyote DelSur wrote:Tass Caffington wrote:[...]
EDIT:
Ok, the keys are working now after I switched back to cider and then
back again to wine.
the only thing that does not work is the ALT-key in text-input, e.g. I
cannot type a @ or Gé¼ or any other character which does need the
ALT-key.
any suggestions on that?
o7 I switched from Cider back to Wine, but my missing Command-Click keys didn't come back. Nor any of the other combinations.
Hmm, cmd-click works here. But I have a german keyboard. Maybe that's why.
What I also found:
When remapping shortcuts on cider the "<>"-key maps correctly while on wine
the same key maps to "+¦". Looks like we have some sort of Babylon going on
here?
o7
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
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Mad Mabata
Sturmgrenadier Inc
Dirt Nap Squad.
0
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Posted - 2016.06.15 04:07:52 -
[278] - Quote
I just noticed that if I switch the audio source under
mac system preferences --> sound --> input / output
while being ingame it doesn't switch the game sound, e.g. from the speakers to the headphones.
Would be cool if this could be addressed as well! |
Tass Caffington
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
6
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Posted - 2016.06.17 11:27:38 -
[279] - Quote
I have another one:
Radial Menu:
When pulling the mouse from center outwards the mousepointer does not
move but stays in the center of the menu ring. one can actually select
a function but the visual response is broken. the mousepointer does
flash quickly and the circular meter does not move.
o7
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
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Alicia Dnari
Dnari Mining and Manufacturing
5
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Posted - 2016.06.19 15:36:23 -
[280] - Quote
WINE still doesn't work for me. Started the launcher, downloaded the last patch (and there was a launcher update), clicked the go button, and it failed to load. Eventually wine spits out "the program exefile.exe has encountered a serious error and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience." There was a button in the WINE wrapper window that is supposed to "show details" but when it didn't do anything after 5 minutes, I quit WINE, which generated an "application (WINE) crashed" line in loglite. So I quit the launcher and restarted it. Same problem.
When WINE launches, the following lines appear in loglite:
info2016-06-19T11:23:078C:\tq\bin\exefile.exeiMacs-iMacsvcviewStateService viewState required 0.000 seconds to startup
error2016-06-19T11:23:0711063/Applications/EVE Launcher.app/Contents/MacOS/evelauncheriMacs-iMac.localevelauncherwine"err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {5a508685-a254-4fba-9b82-9a24b00306af} not registered"
error2016-06-19T11:23:0711063/Applications/EVE Launcher.app/Contents/MacOS/evelauncheriMacs-iMac.localevelauncherwine"err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {5a508685-a254-4fba-9b82-9a24b00306af} could be created for context 0x1"
error2016-06-19T11:23:0711063/Applications/EVE Launcher.app/Contents/MacOS/evelauncheriMacs-iMac.localevelauncherwine"err:ole:CoInitializeEx Attempt to change threading model of this apartment from multi-threaded to apartment threaded"
So now what? Cider at least lets me get into the game, but I would like to get WINE working if possible. |
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Alicia Dnari
Dnari Mining and Manufacturing
5
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Posted - 2016.06.19 15:52:18 -
[281] - Quote
Well, Cider started up just fine GÇö until I tried to launch the IGB. CCP, if you're not going to fix the damn IGB, please just get rrid of it. |
Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
265
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Posted - 2016.06.20 11:29:04 -
[282] - Quote
Alicia Dnari wrote:Well, Cider started up just fine GÇö until I tried to launch the IGB. CCP, if you're not going to fix the damn IGB, please just get rrid of it.
That's their plan, once crest works and replaces all IGB functions.
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All of his fury and rage.
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Yinmatook
The Scope
Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2016.06.20 13:15:37 -
[283] - Quote
I've noticed (using wine, windowed mode, Yosemite), that when I'm using mouse clicks to give focus to the Netflix I'm watching and back to the EVE client - that sometimes the EVE client does not get full focus (mouse clicks fail to work). When that happens, if I command-tab away from the EVE client and then back, full focus is restored and mouse clicks start working in the client again.
Is this a known issue? If not - can you reproduce or do you need logs? |
Avui
Six Project
Furia.
8
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Posted - 2016.06.21 08:23:53 -
[284] - Quote
First of all let me thanks CCP for supporting Wine on Mac.
For the last 3-4 years I have been preaching to all my fellow Mac Eve players to forget about the Mac client and use Wine instead because of the better experience.
When the Wine support was launched I download the Eve Mac client launcher again and tried and although it worked ok, it was still slower and with lower visual quality than my current Wine setup (never understood why since the graphics parameters in the settings were the same).
However in this latest version of the Launcher you can actually select the Wine version and I selected the 1.9.10 (been using the 1.9.7 in my installation) and I got the game in the same quality!!!!
Thanks a lot for that. Looking forward for the Wine DX11 support and see for the first time the new POS setup effect (preferably before the POSes removal from the game). |
Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
267
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Posted - 2016.06.21 13:08:44 -
[285] - Quote
Yinmatook wrote:I've noticed (using wine, windowed mode, Yosemite), that when I'm using mouse clicks to give focus to the Netflix I'm watching and back to the EVE client - that sometimes the EVE client does not get full focus (mouse clicks fail to work). When that happens, if I command-tab away from the EVE client and then back, full focus is restored and mouse clicks start working in the client again.
Is this a known issue? If not - can you reproduce or do you need logs?
I have this issue all the time. More so on my main than my alt. Have to click a different window. Something to do with wine I would assume.
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All of his fury and rage.
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CeeJay DeGilead
Conclav3 of Shadow5
Chaotic Forge
0
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Posted - 2016.06.25 12:34:42 -
[286] - Quote
i first heard about the potential change from Cider to Wine at FanFest this year. At the time, I didn't know what that meant. It sounded Ok, but I couldn't picture the difference. Fast forward to today ...
The change to wine has been a significant improvement to my gaming experience on the Mac. Eventually, I'll upgrade my laptop, but this has really been a positive experience. I was starting to have performance issues with cider, and I don't have the same issues with wine. I didn't know that my visual experience was crappy until I played on a better Alienware machine. Now with wine, I'm much closer to my experience on the PC.
I'm on a 2012 MBP running the latest OS X. I have not run into the same issues that others have mentioned. i followed the directions to enable wine, and everything worked well.
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Runsha
Pearlgate Associates
15
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Posted - 2016.06.26 20:47:52 -
[287] - Quote
Been 2 weeks since I switched over to Wine. And for the most part I've figured out all the little differences in how things work under it. (unpinned all the windows that seem to have pinned themselves and such) However there is one item that is seriously bugging me. A large number of item icons are just flat out missing. I do alot of research and BPC copy and its a serious pain when I pull up industry and see a bunch of blank squares. How do I force a refresh of icons?? |
Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
270
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Posted - 2016.06.27 01:47:27 -
[288] - Quote
Runsha wrote:Been 2 weeks since I switched over to Wine. And for the most part I've figured out all the little differences in how things work under it. (unpinned all the windows that seem to have pinned themselves and such) However there is one item that is seriously bugging me. A large number of item icons are just flat out missing. I do alot of research and BPC copy and its a serious pain when I pull up industry and see a bunch of blank squares. How do I force a refresh of icons??
Probably just need to reset your games cache files.
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
270
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Posted - 2016.06.28 11:24:37 -
[289] - Quote
@CCP Snorlax (or other Mac Devs)
Was looking at the beta info for Wine, had some stuff that looked like DX11 support features! A little beyond what my brain can understand this morning. So just wondering if we could get an idea or some feedback on how the changes are coming for our favorite client.
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All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
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Pavel Keine
The Scope
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.06.30 10:02:16 -
[290] - Quote
Just tried wine now and most of dx11 effects work! |
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
270
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Posted - 2016.06.30 17:33:07 -
[291] - Quote
Pavel Keine wrote:Just tried wine now and most of dx11 effects work!
Which wine version? And does CCP launcher offer/support it.
Guess I just want more details.
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
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Pavel Keine
The Scope
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.07.01 03:54:19 -
[292] - Quote
Amarisen Gream wrote:Pavel Keine wrote:Just tried wine now and most of dx11 effects work! Which wine version? And does CCP launcher offer/support it. Guess I just want more details. Edit: used what I could from the launcher and it remained DX9
Used Latest(not development (development don't give me use cmd like ctrl)) wine version from CCP and disable "Run with DX9", work all shield and armor effects, propulsion effects doesn't. Play on hi graphic with low shadows and medium shaders.
P.S. OS X 10.11.6 beta4 |
Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
270
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Posted - 2016.07.01 11:16:48 -
[293] - Quote
Pavel Keine wrote:Amarisen Gream wrote:Pavel Keine wrote:Just tried wine now and most of dx11 effects work! Which wine version? And does CCP launcher offer/support it. Guess I just want more details. Edit: used what I could from the launcher and it remained DX9 Used Latest(not development (development don't give me use cmd like ctrl)) wine version from CCP and disable "Run with DX9", work all shield and armor effects, propulsion effects doesn't. Play on hi graphic with low shadows and medium shaders. P.S. OS X 10.11.6 beta4
I did that and when I use the alt-f command it showed DX9 as the driver. And like 22-40 FPS.
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
271
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Posted - 2016.07.13 01:22:22 -
[294] - Quote
It has been a few days (weeks) since we have heard from our CCP Snorlax! Just wanna know how things are going on the development side.
And wanna know if you need any testers for updated wine versions
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
- The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
1073
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Posted - 2016.07.13 09:49:30 -
[295] - Quote
Amarisen Gream wrote:It has been a few days (weeks) since we have heard from our CCP Snorlax! Just wanna know how things are going on the development side.
And wanna know if you need any testers for updated wine versions
I've been on vacation, just got back to work yesterday, hence my radio silence. With my batteries fully charged I'm now investigating the sticky control key issue.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
271
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Posted - 2016.07.13 11:37:29 -
[296] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Amarisen Gream wrote:It has been a few days (weeks) since we have heard from our CCP Snorlax! Just wanna know how things are going on the development side.
And wanna know if you need any testers for updated wine versions I've been on vacation, just got back to work yesterday, hence my radio silence. With my batteries fully charged I'm now investigating the sticky control key issue.
Oh. Glad to hear your back and fully charged. And yeah, sticky control is crazy.
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All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3893
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Posted - 2016.07.13 15:53:28 -
[297] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Amarisen Gream wrote:It has been a few days (weeks) since we have heard from our CCP Snorlax! Just wanna know how things are going on the development side.
And wanna know if you need any testers for updated wine versions I've been on vacation, just got back to work yesterday, hence my radio silence. With my batteries fully charged I'm now investigating the sticky control key issue.
Its not just the control key. The shift key sticks too. It happens to me every time I loot the can in the shipyard site (the Serpentis event site).
100% reproducible. I select the can, click the open icon, click the loot button.
Tapping shift will fix it.
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eVRiAL
Black Mesa Inc
8
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Posted - 2016.07.18 07:35:47 -
[298] - Quote
CCP guys, do you ever played on Mac client? It crashes with buffer overflow every second alt-tab I make.
Another issue, character customization - after selection of clothing shader effects disable completely and everything except eyes turns black. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
1075
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Posted - 2016.07.18 10:30:52 -
[299] - Quote
eVRiAL wrote:CCP guys, do you ever played on Mac client? It crashes with buffer overflow every second alt-tab I make.
Another issue, character customization - after selection of clothing shader effects disable completely and everything except eyes turns black.
Yes, we do, but it may not be on a system exactly like yours, or with the same settings as you have.
Please give us more details by filing a bug report and we will investigate.
Are you playing under Wine? Many players report improved stability after switching to the Wine wrapper as described in the first post in this thread.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
272
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Posted - 2016.07.18 22:59:23 -
[300] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:eVRiAL wrote:CCP guys, do you ever played on Mac client? It crashes with buffer overflow every second alt-tab I make.
Another issue, character customization - after selection of clothing shader effects disable completely and everything except eyes turns black. Yes, we do, but it may not be on a system exactly like yours, or with the same settings as you have. Please give us more details by filing a bug report and we will investigate. Are you playing under Wine? Many players report improved stability after switching to the Wine wrapper as described in the first post in this thread.
I know the character customization defaults to low/medium grade settings on the mac no matter what. probably driver issues. when DX 11 finally shows up all the way. we might get lucky
speaking of DX 11. how is that coming Snorlax?
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All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3899
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Posted - 2016.07.19 16:18:13 -
[301] - Quote
This most likely has been asked and answered, but...15 pages.....
Every time I start up eve I get asked if I want to allow wineserver to connect. How do I stop those requests?
In System Preferences, Security and Privacy, Firewall, I have wineserver listed as "allow incoming connections". What else is needed?
Oh, And CCP Snorlax, are we going to get command-click mapped to secondary click? I tend to fumble finger the double-tap sufficiently often that having command-click mapped to secondary click would be quite helpful.
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
1081
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Posted - 2016.07.19 16:22:08 -
[302] - Quote
Vincent Athena wrote:This most likely has been asked and answered, but...15 pages.....
Every time I start up eve I get asked if I want to allow wineserver to connect. How do I stop those requests?
In System Preferences, Security and Privacy, Firewall, I have wineserver listed as "allow incoming connections". What else is needed?
Oh, And CCP Snorlax, are we going to get command-click mapped to secondary click? I tend to fumble finger the double-tap sufficiently often that having command-click mapped to secondary click would be quite helpful.
I haven't seen this, and don't recall other reports about this. I need to investigate and ask around inhouse.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Rahl Gryphon
Ovistavin Enterprises
7
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Posted - 2016.07.19 17:06:27 -
[303] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:This most likely has been asked and answered, but...15 pages.....
Every time I start up eve I get asked if I want to allow wineserver to connect. How do I stop those requests?
In System Preferences, Security and Privacy, Firewall, I have wineserver listed as "allow incoming connections". What else is needed?
Oh, And CCP Snorlax, are we going to get command-click mapped to secondary click? I tend to fumble finger the double-tap sufficiently often that having command-click mapped to secondary click would be quite helpful. I haven't seen this, and don't recall other reports about this. I need to investigate and ask around inhouse.
I haven't reported it, but I have seen this as well. For me the message pops up when my second client launches. Once or twice I've pressed Deny to see what would happen and didn't notice any problems with that client.
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3899
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Posted - 2016.07.19 17:21:25 -
[304] - Quote
I'll amend my first statement: It does not happen every time. But it happens alot. Maybe it happens when something in wineserver changes?
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Rahl Gryphon
Ovistavin Enterprises
7
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Posted - 2016.07.20 04:34:13 -
[305] - Quote
I was incorrect in my last post. It's not when my second client launches, it's after I pick which character to log in as. |
eVRiAL
Black Mesa Inc
8
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Posted - 2016.07.20 09:50:15 -
[306] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:eVRiAL wrote:CCP guys, do you ever played on Mac client? It crashes with buffer overflow every second alt-tab I make.
Another issue, character customization - after selection of clothing shader effects disable completely and everything except eyes turns black. Yes, we do, but it may not be on a system exactly like yours, or with the same settings as you have. Please give us more details by filing a bug report and we will investigate. Are you playing under Wine? Many players report improved stability after switching to the Wine wrapper as described in the first post in this thread.
Thanks, switched to Wine and everything is back to normal, FPS and jump gate lag is excellent. Hardware: MBP 15" retina, latest OS X.
Why in universe this dog **** Cedar is the default wrapper? |
Alicia Dnari
Dnari Mining and Manufacturing
5
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Posted - 2016.07.20 11:10:18 -
[307] - Quote
Well, for one thing, some of us haven't been able to get Wine to work.
I run Windows 10 in Parallels on this Mac, for access to things like EveMon and EVE-IPH. In theory, that shouldn't cause problems with either Cider or Wine, especially when I'm not actually running Windows, but I dunno, maybe it does with Wine. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
1081
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Posted - 2016.07.20 11:26:45 -
[308] - Quote
Alicia Dnari wrote:Well, for one thing, some of us haven't been able to get Wine to work.
I run Windows 10 in Parallels on this Mac, for access to things like EveMon and EVE-IPH. In theory, that shouldn't cause problems with either Cider or Wine, especially when I'm not actually running Windows, but I dunno, maybe it does with Wine.
I'd like to hear more details about why Wine doesn't work for you. Most players so far report improved stability and performance.
Can you give it another try and report back with details of your issue? Remember that you can log in to Singularity, our test server, if you are concerned about crashing at a bad time.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Alicia Dnari
Dnari Mining and Manufacturing
5
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Posted - 2016.07.20 15:33:49 -
[309] - Quote
I tried it again. It crashed on startup again. This was in loglite: Exefile SHUTDOWN Crashed (0x80000101) for b1056508, minidump written and uploaded in C:\users\blackshoe\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\ce6268e5-0b57-45df-86a0-908df151402a.dmp but I haven't been able to find that file. I did submit a bug report a few minutes ago. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
1081
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Posted - 2016.07.20 16:04:19 -
[310] - Quote
Alicia Dnari wrote:I tried it again. It crashed on startup again. This was in loglite: Exefile SHUTDOWN Crashed (0x80000101) for b1056508, minidump written and uploaded in C:\users\blackshoe\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\ce6268e5-0b57-45df-86a0-908df151402a.dmp but I haven't been able to find that file. I did submit a bug report a few minutes ago.
Thanks, saw the report. Could you attach full logs from LogLite?
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
1081
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Posted - 2016.07.20 16:38:33 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:Alicia Dnari wrote:I tried it again. It crashed on startup again. This was in loglite: Exefile SHUTDOWN Crashed (0x80000101) for b1056508, minidump written and uploaded in C:\users\blackshoe\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\ce6268e5-0b57-45df-86a0-908df151402a.dmp but I haven't been able to find that file. I did submit a bug report a few minutes ago. Thanks, saw the report. Could you attach full logs from LogLite?
One thing to try - go to the shared cache folder (from the View menu, Reveal in Finder, Shared Cache) and delete the wine and wineenv folders, then restart the launcher and try again.
I appreciate your patience in helping me track this down.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Alicia Dnari
Dnari Mining and Manufacturing
5
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Posted - 2016.07.21 01:21:33 -
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Okay. I deleted the wine and wineenv folders as you suggested, and restarted the launcher. Same crash.
I'll see if I can attach the log file to the bug report. |
Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
272
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Posted - 2016.07.21 02:15:50 -
[313] - Quote
Alicia Dnari wrote:Okay. I deleted the wine and wineenv folders as you suggested, and restarted the launcher. Same crash.
I'll see if I can attach the log file to the bug report.
Editadd: log file attached to bug report. Are those things public?
Bug reports are not public as far as I know. Just make sure you
Attn: CCP Snorlax so the bug crews forwards it to him faster.
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All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
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Grella Khurelem
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2016.07.21 17:14:53 -
[314] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Grella Khurelem wrote:Wine looks fine, but there are problems in a windowed environment that forced me to switch back so I can use multiple clients.
The problems are with every button on the screen. The location of where they are activated seem to be off by a half-inch or so on the screen. I'm assuming that this is related to the window bar, but I'm not exactly sure.
I've also not been able to get multiple clients to run at the same time either, but I'll need to try that again another day. I've noticed this intermittently when running on my laptop, but haven't yet seen a reliable repro, making it hard to track down. When this has happened, resizing the window has resolved the issue. I know this isn't ideal, but it's a workaround at least. I will keep an eye on this issue and see if I can fix it. If anyone runs into this and finds a reliable repro case I'd be very interested to hear about it.
I finally played around with Wine and was able to get this fixed with a workaround.
Going back a bit, I have a Mac Mini and a non-Apple monitor. The current Cider client doesn't fit to my screen. Everything works fine, but the EVE time and notifications don't show up on my screen. With Wine, it's the reverse. It is bottom justified, so the Eve menu box and the top of the character photo is covered up by the menu bar on the window.
In the Window menu on Wine, I selected "Zoom" which resized my screen and readjusted the layout. Sometimes it takes a few Zooms, but other times, the screen is top justified and everything works as expected.
If anything, I'm guessing the non Apple monitor is the cause of this problem.
Now that that's working OK-ish, the issue I have now is with the zoomed windows. The windows want to stick to the top of the screen. If I try to move them around, they just bounce back to the top of the screen.
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
272
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Posted - 2016.07.21 21:57:29 -
[315] - Quote
Grella Khurelem wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:Grella Khurelem wrote:Wine looks fine, but there are problems in a windowed environment that forced me to switch back so I can use multiple clients.
The problems are with every button on the screen. The location of where they are activated seem to be off by a half-inch or so on the screen. I'm assuming that this is related to the window bar, but I'm not exactly sure.
I've also not been able to get multiple clients to run at the same time either, but I'll need to try that again another day. I've noticed this intermittently when running on my laptop, but haven't yet seen a reliable repro, making it hard to track down. When this has happened, resizing the window has resolved the issue. I know this isn't ideal, but it's a workaround at least. I will keep an eye on this issue and see if I can fix it. If anyone runs into this and finds a reliable repro case I'd be very interested to hear about it. I finally played around with Wine and was able to get this fixed with a workaround. Going back a bit, I have a Mac Mini and a non-Apple monitor. The current Cider client doesn't fit to my screen. Everything works fine, but the EVE time and notifications don't show up on my screen. With Wine, it's the reverse. It is bottom justified, so the Eve menu box and the top of the character photo is covered up by the menu bar on the window. In the Window menu on Wine, I selected "Zoom" which resized my screen and readjusted the layout. Sometimes it takes a few Zooms, but other times, the screen is top justified and everything works as expected. If anything, I'm guessing the non Apple monitor is the cause of this problem. Now that that's working OK-ish, the issue I have now is with the zoomed windows. The windows want to stick to the top of the screen. If I try to move them around, they just bounce back to the top of the screen.
Are you in full-screen or window-mode?
If your in window mode you should be able to grab a corner and resize with wine version.
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All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
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Eva Yves
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.07.22 11:48:11 -
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i dont know what happen, but my graphics are like 100.000.000 times better, and the game is fluid, looks like a new game :p |
Dan Ende
Royal Caldari Air Force
1
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Posted - 2016.07.23 06:09:16 -
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I had a problem several months ago (crashing and locking up) but found that by switching to Wine it cured that completely. At first I had a problem of it always asking to allow Wine and then opening it from the dock but on the next update, that suddenly disappeared. As soon as I selected my char I was in Eve.
However, with the Tuesday 19 th update the problem is back.
I am on a late 2015 Imac with Retina
I launch Eve and the char selections screen comes up and I choose my character
then the screen defaults to my desktop with a box WINE is attmepting to connect
allow or deny
I choose allow and then have to select the wine (screen image) in the dock. and then it opens
the game run perfectly after that
so it seems something changed somewhere, but where?
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Dan Ende
Royal Caldari Air Force
1
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Posted - 2016.07.23 06:23:12 -
[318] - Quote
Dan Ende wrote:I had a problem several months ago (crashing and locking up) but found that by switching to Wine it cured that completely. At first I had a problem of it always asking to allow Wine and then opening it from the dock but on the next update, that suddenly disappeared. As soon as I selected my char I was in Eve.
However, with the Tuesday 19 th update the problem is back.
I am on a late 2015 Imac with Retina
I launch Eve and the char selections screen comes up and I choose my character
then the screen defaults to my desktop with a box WINE is attmepting to connect
allow or deny
I choose allow and then have to select the wine (screen image) in the dock. and then it opens
the game run perfectly after that
so it seems something changed somewhere, but where?
RESOLVED
for some reason there were two Wineserver entries in the allow list. One pointed to a lone Wineserver in one folder and the other pointed to a folder with multiple Wine files. I could change the one in the grep folder to 'ALLOW' but the other was locked on blocked. So I deleted the wineserver it was pointing to.
That cured my problem. I now go seamlessly from the char selection screen into Eve. I don't know where that errant copy of Wineserver came from, but will look for it again if the problem re-occurs |
Vayaa Yvorme
The Scope
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2016.07.23 06:31:48 -
[319] - Quote
Reporting massive framerate drops once I switch to wine.
As long as I am using Cider, all works smooth at high fps but as soon as I switch to wine, my framerate drops into the unplayable even though all graphical settings remain the same.
When I switch back to Cider, all works well. Tried switching around between them and always the same issue that can be experienced. Is this known to happen on some machines?
On El Capitan here with a i7 Quad Core and 16GB of Ram.
All the best,
Vayaa |
Zen Chaser
PYM Technologies
Pinnacle Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.07.24 12:50:48 -
[320] - Quote
I have searched and can't seem to find an answer to this question. Does someone know which of the wine versions we should be using?
I also want to add my thank you for the support Mac is getting.
o7 |
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Wedge Yamamoto
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.07.25 15:53:34 -
[321] - Quote
The launcher kept bugging me to try Wine so I thought I would try it out. I did and I want to switch back to Cider to compare. But I can't figure out how to switch back. It seems the option to change the wrapper no longer appears in the settings menu for the launcher. How do I switch back? I'm using launcher version 1057794. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
1086
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Posted - 2016.07.25 16:07:36 -
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Wedge Yamamoto wrote:The launcher kept bugging me to try Wine so I thought I would try it out. I did and I want to switch back to Cider to compare. But I can't figure out how to switch back. It seems the option to change the wrapper no longer appears in the settings menu for the launcher. How do I switch back? I'm using launcher version 1057794.
It's in the launcher Preferences.
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
272
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Posted - 2016.07.25 17:22:09 -
[323] - Quote
Zen Chaser wrote:I have searched and can't seem to find an answer to this question. Does someone know which of the wine versions we should be using?
I also want to add my thank you for the support Mac is getting.
o7
I have mine set to use latest non development version in the preference pane.
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All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
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Zen Chaser
PYM Technologies
Pinnacle Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.07.25 18:19:54 -
[324] - Quote
Thank you
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Manssell
OmiHyperMultiNationalDrunksConglomerate
Together We Solo
301
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Posted - 2016.07.25 18:38:33 -
[325] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:This most likely has been asked and answered, but...15 pages.....
Every time I start up eve I get asked if I want to allow wineserver to connect. How do I stop those requests?
In System Preferences, Security and Privacy, Firewall, I have wineserver listed as "allow incoming connections". What else is needed?
Oh, And CCP Snorlax, are we going to get command-click mapped to secondary click? I tend to fumble finger the double-tap sufficiently often that having command-click mapped to secondary click would be quite helpful. I haven't seen this, and don't recall other reports about this. I need to investigate and ask around inhouse.
For some reason I've ben getting the 'wineserver connect' question on launch a lot this week. |
Wedge Yamamoto
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.07.25 19:48:20 -
[326] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Wedge Yamamoto wrote:The launcher kept bugging me to try Wine so I thought I would try it out. I did and I want to switch back to Cider to compare. But I can't figure out how to switch back. It seems the option to change the wrapper no longer appears in the settings menu for the launcher. How do I switch back? I'm using launcher version 1057794. It's in the launcher Preferences.
Oh, got it. I kept looking at the "Settings" button on the launcher screen and I didn't realize there was a Preferences in the pull down menu. Thanks. |
Arcdale
WiNGSPAN Academy for Enterprising Pilots
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
2
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Posted - 2016.07.26 10:20:40 -
[327] - Quote
One small but annoying issue with the Wine version:
D-scan does not register a period "." when typing in the AU field. No problem with this key elsewhere in the UI (e.g. chat)
Apologies if this has been brought up before, looking through 17 pages was a bit much. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
1087
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Posted - 2016.07.26 18:24:15 -
[328] - Quote
Vincent Athena wrote:
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Oh, And CCP Snorlax, are we going to get command-click mapped to secondary click? I tend to fumble finger the double-tap sufficiently often that having command-click mapped to secondary click would be quite helpful.
I'm working on this issue now, hope to have a fix in a day or two.
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Apocalypse Now.
272
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Posted - 2016.07.27 03:16:07 -
[329] - Quote
Don't know if it just me - in one of the recent releases I have had times where my computer throws the improper key press sound (like the one when a key has no function in a window) when I click on things in the wine client. Changing from one client back to the other seems to fix it for a short while.
I multi-box with two accounts.
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All of his fury and rage.
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Jenda Azizora
We came from after the Darkness
0
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Posted - 2016.08.03 08:30:06 -
[330] - Quote
HI
I have big problem with wine ... it kicks me out after a certain mount of time. It says the socket is closed.
What does it mean ? Does it means that the internet connection is brocken or is it the program because on cider this issue didn't appeared at any time.
Thanks for help and sorry if this was already posted. |
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eVRiAL
Annapolis Tactical
12
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Posted - 2016.08.12 07:59:17 -
[331] - Quote
Where are chat logs located? Before they were present in "~/Library/Application Support/EVE Online/p_drive/User/My Documents/EVE/logs/" but after wine nothing new there.
Ok found /Documents/EVE/logs/Chatlogs/ |
DanIstheman
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.08.14 23:51:26 -
[332] - Quote
Hi there tested wine running good in my legacy mac book pro.
Settings all low except shade, to se metallic effect, that is on medium.
Question: i downloaded the full game today, and the launcher started X11 , i have installed before.
Wine version is running x11 to??? so uninstalled my app x11 because wine come with own x11
When you config the preferences do i have to select a version i check latest,also in the wine-debug (must be in blank?)
DX9 checked or not? i think your wrapper should detect my graph card.
MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2012)
Intel HD Graphics 4000 1024 MB
2.5 GHz Intel Core i5
Yosemite last version |
DanIstheman
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.08.15 00:10:53 -
[333] - Quote
Jenda Azizora wrote:HI
I have big problem with wine ... it kicks me out after a certain mount of time. It says the socket is closed.
What does it mean ? Does it means that the internet connection is brocken or is it the program because on cider this issue didn't appeared at any time.
Thanks for help and sorry if this was already posted.
did you give permissions to allowing incoming connections?
if yes
Check permisions and repair maybe the port is owned by other program. use activity monitor to se what is working at same time. |
Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
288
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Posted - 2016.08.30 23:48:59 -
[334] - Quote
@ CCP Snorlax, any word on how Wine is progressing toward DX11???
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All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
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Wedge Yamamoto
Perkone
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2016.09.02 14:18:07 -
[335] - Quote
I want to run my EVE client in portable mode so that EVEMon can scrape the cache data. Presumably this requires running the client with the option '/LUA:OFF' or maybe '/end /LUA:OFF' and then pointing the EVEMon client towards the equivalent of %LOCALAPPDATA%\CPP\EVE.
1) How do I get the wine client to run in portable mode?
2) Where in the "$USER/Library/Application Support/EVE Online" directory structure is the correct cache directory for wine? Is it "$USER/Library/Application Support/EVE Online/p_drive/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/SharedCache/wineenv/drive_c/users/$USER/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE"? |
Caidin
UTiDE
0
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Posted - 2016.09.02 22:51:35 -
[336] - Quote
Hi
having an issue in Windowed mode running at my usual 1024x768 (also tried 1280x768) where I have to position the mouse pointer slightly below where I would usually have it on screen in order to click. The problem doesn't exist in Full Screen or Fixed Mode
I am using the actual machine screen (not external monitor or tv)
System: Macbook Pro retina 13"
Intel HD Graphics 4000 1536 MB
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DanIstheman
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.09.04 23:02:56 -
[337] - Quote
Hi Does anyone solved or has, the mouse clicking issue on el Capitan with wine?
*Sometimes cant click on space
*Sometimes camera stay fixed
*Market windows has clicking delay
*Cant click under windowed mode
Starting to think in not pay next month fee...
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
1104
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Posted - 2016.09.05 11:18:20 -
[338] - Quote
DanIstheman wrote:Hi there tested wine running good in my legacy mac book pro.
Settings all low except shade, to se metallic effect, that is on medium.
Question: i downloaded the full game today, and the launcher started X11 , i have it installed before.
Does your wine version should use your own x11???
wine-debug must be in blank?
Any config tips?
Wrapper detection mac drivers graph card, no need check DX
MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2012)
Intel HD Graphics 4000 1024 MB
2.5 GHz Intel Core i5
Yosemite last version
lol post forum timer.
X11 is a fallback - the native Mac driver is failing for some reason. Would be interested in seeing logs - please file a bug report and attach the launcher logs. It's easiest to find them by going to the View menu in the launcher, Reveal in Finder, Launcher Logs.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
1104
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Posted - 2016.09.05 11:19:08 -
[339] - Quote
DanIstheman wrote:Hi Does anyone solved or has, the mouse clicking issue on el Capitan with wine?
*Sometimes cant click on space
*Sometimes camera stay fixed
*Market windows has clicking delay
*Cant click under windowed mode
Starting to think in not pay next month fee...
I would be interested in seeing logs - please file a bug report and attach the launcher logs. It's easiest to find them by going to the View menu in the launcher, Reveal in Finder, Launcher Logs.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Thufir Arrakis
Kleiner Hund Corporation
0
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Posted - 2016.09.16 18:08:54 -
[340] - Quote
Eve worked well with Cider on my iMac / OS X 10.9.5. I've tried Wine - and the game runs rough and jerky. I think I'm switching back to Cider. |
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
295
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Posted - 2016.09.16 18:30:04 -
[341] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:DanIstheman wrote:Hi Does anyone solved or has, the mouse clicking issue on el Capitan with wine?
*Sometimes cant click on space
*Sometimes camera stay fixed
*Market windows has clicking delay
*Cant click under windowed mode
Starting to think in not pay next month fee...
I would be interested in seeing logs - please file a bug report and attach the launcher logs. It's easiest to find them by going to the View menu in the launcher, Reveal in Finder, Launcher Logs.
If I understand this - I have similar issues, but mine comes from the window not wanting to become the active window if I have been swapping back and forth between different applications. Normally swapping apps works - or just minimizing the eve window and then unminimizing it works.
A lot of the issues can be fix quickly by just changing applications. Clearing cache files and sometimes just a good old restart on the mac.
Edit - and once you restart - play with logging in the back ground so Snorlax can have something fun to read on his days off.
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All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
- The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
295
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Posted - 2016.10.18 18:36:47 -
[342] - Quote
CCP Snorlax must be super busy. We haven't heard from him in a while. Wonder if all those log-lite files are helping.
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
1117
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Posted - 2016.10.18 19:26:22 -
[343] - Quote
Amarisen Gream wrote:CCP Snorlax must be super busy. We haven't heard from him in a while. Wonder if all those log-lite files are helping.
Yeah, sorry, been quite busy. I'll get back to Wine issues in a few days.
Make sure you have the latest non-dev version of Wine selected in the launcher preferences. Latest dev can be quite unstable and can jump between three different branches so I don't recommend using that except for testing specific versions.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
295
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Posted - 2016.10.18 19:49:26 -
[344] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Amarisen Gream wrote:CCP Snorlax must be super busy. We haven't heard from him in a while. Wonder if all those log-lite files are helping. Yeah, sorry, been quite busy. I'll get back to Wine issues in a few days. Make sure you have the latest non-dev version of Wine selected in the launcher preferences. Latest dev can be quite unstable and can jump between three different branches so I don't recommend using that except for testing specific versions.
Thanks. Any word on DX11 support. Everything seemed to shut up about it.
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All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
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Acidcop Shardani
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
0
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Posted - 2016.11.02 22:34:39 -
[345] - Quote
Vayaa Yvorme wrote:Reporting massive framerate drops once I switch to wine.
As long as I am using Cider, all works smooth at high fps but as soon as I switch to wine, my framerate drops into the unplayable even though all graphical settings remain the same.
When I switch back to Cider, all works well. Tried switching around between them and always the same issue that can be experienced. Is this known to happen on some machines?
On El Capitan here with a i7 Quad Core and 16GB of Ram.
All the best,
Vayaa
I have the same issue...All is/was great under Cider (since No changing back anymore as far as I know).
I was sailing smoothly with ALL settings on HIGH, only the shadows on LOW, DX9, and the asteroid environment OFF. Some fields had a million tiny rocks to make it look "special", but I found it incredibly annoying.
Playing fullscreen at 2560x1440.....
Under Wine on the other hand: low fps, fps drops, chop, lag...etc....
I've been trying different settings and ALL settings on LOW, Shadows OFF, AA OFF, PR OFF...and yes, ALL unchecked except the turret option, the game remains to be close to unplayable...
I saw some posts on other forums stating that Wine always has had problems with opengl. But none proposed a solution or workaround.
I took a look at this >>> https://wiki.winehq.org/Performance <<< nothing really that ca help so far...
I did everything according to "the cider to wine" thread on the forum. I have no clue if there is a command that can be used in Wine debug thing that could help the many people who have a bad Wine experience...So actually running out of ideas...
iMac (27-inch, Late 2013), 3,5 GHz Intel Core i7, 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M 4096 MB GDDR5, OSX EL Capitan 10.11.6
Logfiles will be sent as soon as I tried some of the Wine performance test page |
Wedge Yamamoto
Perkone
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2016.11.04 00:30:51 -
[346] - Quote
Amarisen Gream wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:DanIstheman wrote:Hi Does anyone solved or has, the mouse clicking issue on el Capitan with wine?
*Sometimes cant click on space
*Sometimes camera stay fixed
*Market windows has clicking delay
*Cant click under windowed mode
Starting to think in not pay next month fee...
I would be interested in seeing logs - please file a bug report and attach the launcher logs. It's easiest to find them by going to the View menu in the launcher, Reveal in Finder, Launcher Logs. If I understand this - I have similar issues, but mine comes from the window not wanting to become the active window if I have been swapping back and forth between different applications. Normally swapping apps works - or just minimizing the eve window and then unminimizing it works. A lot of the issues can be fix quickly by just changing applications. Clearing cache files and sometimes just a good old restart on the mac. Edit - and once you restart - play with logging in the back ground so Snorlax can have something fun to read on his days off.
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Wedge Yamamoto
Perkone
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2016.11.04 00:34:40 -
[347] - Quote
In the last 24 hours, I've had two mysterious wine crashes right when I am docking into an NPC station. First, a Windows window pops up outside of the EVE window and says that the program is in a bad state and is shutting the app down and then the app shuts down. Haven't been quick enough to get a screen grab. Anyone else seen it? |
Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
297
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Posted - 2016.11.04 01:41:31 -
[348] - Quote
Wedge Yamamoto wrote:In the last 24 hours, I've had two mysterious wine crashes right when I am docking into an NPC station. First, a Windows window pops up outside of the EVE window and says that the program is in a bad state and is shutting the app down and then the app shuts down. Haven't been quick enough to get a screen grab. Anyone else seen it?
Might be the same error I had a month back or so. If CCP Snorlax is still using that google folder I shared with him. It is file 006
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
- The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
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Wedge Yamamoto
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.11.07 16:28:54 -
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Wedge Yamamoto wrote:In the last 24 hours, I've had two mysterious wine crashes right when I am docking into an NPC station. First, a Windows window pops up outside of the EVE window and says that the program is in a bad state and is shutting the app down and then the app shuts down. Haven't been quick enough to get a screen grab. Anyone else seen it?
A new version of the crash this time. I was in Urlen at the Perimeter gate and just started warping to the Kisogo gate and it crashed on warp out. |
Worfel Orlen
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.11.09 00:14:56 -
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No crash here, but I'm having character selection problems. Does anybody know where/how to run the mac version of the repair tool? |
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
299
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Posted - 2016.11.09 01:57:21 -
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ATTN: CCP Snorlax
Please check google folder I have shared with you. File 044. I just lost like all audio for eve as well as discord chat and more. Unplugging and plugging some USB cables rebooted some audio but no voice for discord. Also my neocom went crazy, lost access to top three or four items. Chat, character and E
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
- The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
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wango Maken
Fuxi Legion
Fraternity.
0
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Posted - 2016.11.09 15:38:42 -
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I'm using Macbook Pro. I found that the maximum resolution I can reach is 1440x851 under window mode. The full screen mode works fine but I cant play multi-characters under fullscreen. The icons in window mode are extremely big because of the resolution. It works fine using cider. Hope you can solve this problem. |
Bodaaa
SniggWaffe
WAFFLES.
7
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Posted - 2016.11.17 04:17:59 -
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wango Maken wrote:I'm using Macbook Pro. I found that the maximum resolution I can reach is 1440x851 under window mode. The full screen mode works fine but I cant play multi-characters under fullscreen. The icons in window mode are extremely big because of the resolution. It works fine using cider. Hope you can solve this problem.
This continues one of the biggest issues for a few of us.
The variable that could be at play is the resolution settings in the OS under System Preferences. I have it at default which on a 15" retina is 1440x900 "pixel doubled". Probably this is what wine does capture as my resolution instead of 2880x1800 it should look at.
So as Wine is not recognizing the underlying resolution correctly in windowed mode and shrinks game down while MacOS magnifies it up again for retina. Tried playing around with DPI settings in the cfg files ("LogPixels" setting), but had no impact.
Hope we can solve this. I miss playing multiple clients at 2560x1440 windowed. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
1138
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Posted - 2016.11.17 07:56:09 -
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Bodaaa wrote:wango Maken wrote:I'm using Macbook Pro. I found that the maximum resolution I can reach is 1440x851 under window mode. The full screen mode works fine but I cant play multi-characters under fullscreen. The icons in window mode are extremely big because of the resolution. It works fine using cider. Hope you can solve this problem. This continues one of the biggest issues for a few of us. The variable that could be at play is the resolution settings in the OS under System Preferences. I have it at default which on a 15" retina is 1440x900 "pixel doubled". Probably this is what wine does capture as my resolution instead of 2880x1800 it should look at. So as Wine is not recognizing the underlying resolution correctly in windowed mode and shrinks game down while MacOS magnifies it up again for retina. Tried playing around with DPI settings in the cfg files ("LogPixels" setting), but had no impact. Hope we can solve this. I miss playing multiple clients at 2560x1440 windowed.
I think there is a way to control this behavior in Wine, via the registry. I don't remember the details right now - I'll investigate and see if I can introduce a setting in the launcher for this.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
1140
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Posted - 2016.11.24 16:06:32 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:Bodaaa wrote:wango Maken wrote:I'm using Macbook Pro. I found that the maximum resolution I can reach is 1440x851 under window mode. The full screen mode works fine but I cant play multi-characters under fullscreen. The icons in window mode are extremely big because of the resolution. It works fine using cider. Hope you can solve this problem. This continues one of the biggest issues for a few of us. The variable that could be at play is the resolution settings in the OS under System Preferences. I have it at default which on a 15" retina is 1440x900 "pixel doubled". Probably this is what wine does capture as my resolution instead of 2880x1800 it should look at. So as Wine is not recognizing the underlying resolution correctly in windowed mode and shrinks game down while MacOS magnifies it up again for retina. Tried playing around with DPI settings in the cfg files ("LogPixels" setting), but had no impact. Hope we can solve this. I miss playing multiple clients at 2560x1440 windowed. I think there is a way to control this behavior in Wine, via the registry. I don't remember the details right now - I'll investigate and see if I can introduce a setting in the launcher for this.
See https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6725473#post6725473
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Apoq Surrat
Amarritus Patriotus
11
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Posted - 2016.11.25 02:02:39 -
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I'm curious CCP Snorlax, how many mac users play eve?
My factless guesstimate would be less than 5%?
MacPro (mid 2012) dual 6-core Xeon 3.06ghz, 64GB ECC Ram, SSD, 2x SSHD, 2x HD, EVGA GTX 680 Mac Edition. Running macOS Sierra.
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Taek'li
Nothing on Dscan
3
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Posted - 2016.12.15 20:46:30 -
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I think your estimate is far off. Please remember that while Mac is the officially supported platform, there is a fair share of people using exactly the same thing to play Eve under other flavours of Unix systems (like me - happily running Eve under WIne under Linux Mint 17). |
Taek'li
Nothing on Dscan
3
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Posted - 2016.12.15 22:00:35 -
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For issues with the crashing game on any user action (that is what i had)
Try the following:
In launcher go to settings,
check 'use the dev versions'
and select the only version that is not marked 'ccp-daily'.
For me it was wine 1.9.1.XXXXX
It fixed those issues for me. |
Falstad Lagspike
Lagspike Industries
0
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Posted - 2016.12.28 16:43:13 -
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Any results for running EVE/Wine on OSX Sierra? Hesitant to install Sierra, as EVE is not giving me any problems right now.. :D |
Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise
Sherwood Hisec Industrial Technologies
308
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Posted - 2016.12.30 02:10:47 -
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Falstad Lagspike wrote:Any results for running EVE/Wine on OSX Sierra? Hesitant to install Sierra, as EVE is not giving me any problems right now.. :D
I have been running Sierra since day one or two and haven't had any major issues.
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All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
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