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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2783
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Posted - 2016.03.08 03:06:00 -
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Being mad is okay. Just learn from it and exercise a healthy level of caution when dealing with others in the future. We all get our ragey moments in this game. However, yeah... As Loyd and Ralph have mentioned, many of us partake in activities in the game that we would NEVER do in RL.
We're not closet thieves and murderers.
It's just that this game allows for thievery and murder and all sorts of nogoodery that we have learned can be quite enjoyable. They have even advertised in the past 'Be The Villain!', the problem with this is preconceptions from other games as to what a villain is. It's not the comical, yet ineffective Snidely Whiplash archetype in this game that is the villain... it's con men, thieves, gankers, and other forms of predation.... all of which appealing to different types of player.
You got a taste of evil in EVE. It stings, but it's not the end of the world.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
829
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Posted - 2016.03.08 03:18:07 -
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JacenSolo wrote: I follow you. Yes the scam isnt new, its certainly evolved and ive lost prospective being gone so long i guess. Yeah ill get over it but i still want to complain abit more.
Rock on.
Just don't confuse game behavior with RL behavior. If you play poker, then bluffing (lying) is an accepted game mechanic. People that bluff in game might be totally honest with you outside the game. People that play FPS don't run around shooting people at random in RL like they do in game.
In eve scamming is very much accepted as long as the scam takes place completely within game space. Sorry for your loss, but Goonswarm, one of the most oldest corps in the game has always told their newbies to basically perform this same scam, charging a recruiting fee etc, when the only way to get in was via something awful forum invite after 3 months of participation.
There are two major rules in eve. 1. Never fly what you can't afford to lose. 2. Trust no one.
My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
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Mobadder Thworst
Wiking Brigade The Devil's Warrior Alliance
901
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Posted - 2016.03.08 03:50:34 -
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This game hurts. I feel sick when I lose a frigate.
I bet you turned every color in the rainbow and sweated beads of pure hate.
Here is my advice: grab a beer and toast the tricky bastards who got you.
You may be able to get them back. Perhaps you can infiltrate. Maybe you can get a gank or two on them. Maybe not.
No matter what, that is the game. You just lost a hand where you went all in. That sick feeling is proof you played.
Had this been poker, you would have lost more. You just wouldn't have felt so angry.
Eve isn't special because it simulates mining or because we can all chat. It's special because you feel shaky and want to throw up after an engagement.
You paid for that sense of loss. Savor it. Do something with it. If you need help, contact me in game.
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JacenSolo
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2016.03.08 04:06:49 -
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I'm as mad about how blind I was when I really knew better. If nothing else I got to make a fresh start. Just trying to decide on sticking in hi sec for awhile or heading out. Scraped up about 900 mill after selling some things so I'm not starting off totally broke but I need to make it count.. |

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
2361
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Posted - 2016.03.08 08:45:43 -
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JacenSolo wrote:I'm as mad about how blind I was when I really knew better. If nothing else I got to make a fresh start. Just trying to decide on sticking in hi sec for awhile or heading out. Scraped up about 900 mill after selling some things so I'm not starting off totally broke but I need to make it count.. Hello OP. I know the people you are talking about and I am sure we can make things right here. I am an official New Order Agent and therefor I can set you up with the required mining permit. The permit is only 10mil ISK and valid for a full year. Please contact me via EVE mail and I will look into this.
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
351
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Posted - 2016.03.08 09:14:36 -
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JacenSolo wrote:Again an intended game mechanic. We are going in circles though.
as is scamming, stealing, backstabbing, espionage, etc, as long as it's in-game, all these are allowed.
Just Add Water
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Ozzie Udan
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
169
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Posted - 2016.03.08 12:07:52 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:JacenSolo wrote:I'm as mad about how blind I was when I really knew better. If nothing else I got to make a fresh start. Just trying to decide on sticking in hi sec for awhile or heading out. Scraped up about 900 mill after selling some things so I'm not starting off totally broke but I need to make it count.. Hello OP. I know the people you are talking about and I am sure we can make things right here. I am an official New Order Agent and therefor I can set you up with the required mining permit. The permit is only 10mil ISK and valid for a full year. Please contact me via EVE mail and I will look into this.
If ever Ima Wreckyou ever leaves eve or new order it will be a sad day for us all, especially as I don't have her corpses in my collection
At least you say more than " AG fail again" like some of your bot like cohorts do
A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head.
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Dom Arkaral
Gate Is Red Complaints Department
130
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Posted - 2016.03.08 12:36:49 -
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Ozzie Udan wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:JacenSolo wrote:I'm as mad about how blind I was when I really knew better. If nothing else I got to make a fresh start. Just trying to decide on sticking in hi sec for awhile or heading out. Scraped up about 900 mill after selling some things so I'm not starting off totally broke but I need to make it count.. Hello OP. I know the people you are talking about and I am sure we can make things right here. I am an official New Order Agent and therefor I can set you up with the required mining permit. The permit is only 10mil ISK and valid for a full year. Please contact me via EVE mail and I will look into this. If ever Ima Wreckyou ever leaves eve or new order it will be a sad day for us all, especially as I don't have her corpses in my collection At least you say more than " AG fail again" like some of your bot like cohorts do Miner, calm down
JacenSolo wrote:I'm as mad about how blind I was when I really knew better. If nothing else I got to make a fresh start. Just trying to decide on sticking in hi sec for awhile or heading out. Scraped up about 900 mill after selling some things so I'm not starting off totally broke but I need to make it count.. @op ship happens, so don't get attached to your belongings 
Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker
I have no Honer (truly)
Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche!
Salt Harvesting Level CCCXV
Save me from myself. #broadcast4reps when you're in need o7
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JacenSolo
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2016.03.08 12:58:39 -
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Strange people lurk at night |

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
2362
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Posted - 2016.03.08 13:10:49 -
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Ozzie Udan wrote:If ever Ima Wreckyou ever leaves eve or new order it will be a sad day for us all, especially as I don't have her corpses in my collection That is probably because I ussually dunk miners and not freighters because it is usually not possible for me to dedicate as much time and attention to the game as is needed if you fly with a fleet of people.
I just don't see AG failing all the time because since loyal started to dunk Freighters all AGs are somehow in Uedama and left the miners behind. Not only are you failing non stop daily, constantly, you are not even present and don't even try.
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. A Few Brave Men
2689
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Posted - 2016.03.08 13:19:09 -
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OMG... you sir just took favourite isd spot in my bio
 
PS sorry dorium but there can be only one
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. A Few Brave Men
2689
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Posted - 2016.03.08 13:30:37 -
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I would like to confirm in real life I sit on gas stations and blow up any vehicles or pedestrians I consider flashy. When blowing up a smaller vehicle like a scooter or Prius I like to keep one gun spare in case I get a chance to 'pod' the driver.
On a serious note @OP would you like to press charges and bring this before the Court of Crime and Punishment?
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
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Yourmoney Mywallet
Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation
914
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Posted - 2016.03.08 13:37:12 -
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
*catchbreath*
HAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
*wipetear*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! |

Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. A Few Brave Men
2689
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Posted - 2016.03.08 13:41:04 -
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*OOC*
If you wanna chat in game about this and many more such pitfalls send me an in game mail.
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
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Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
722
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Posted - 2016.03.08 13:46:32 -
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I hope you are aware of the severity of your accusations. Fortunately, all your lies and slander are completely in vain as everybody knows that the Goonswarm Federation does not condone scamming and all members adhere to a strict no scamming policy. I also know for a fact that Amok. does indeed have a CEO and there's nothing mysterious about her. She is a figure of honour and integrity, and if she found you were a spy, you just got what you deserved. |

JacenSolo
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2016.03.08 13:49:19 -
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Neuntausend wrote:I hope you are aware of the severity of your accusations. Fortunately, all your lies and slander are completely in vain as everybody knows that the Goonswarm Federation does not condone scamming and all members adhere to a strict no scamming policy. I also know for a fact that Amok. does indeed have a CEO and there's nothing mysterious about her. She is a figure of honour and integrity, and if she found you were a spy, you just got what you deserved. Umm Brilliant |

Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2785
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Posted - 2016.03.08 14:49:21 -
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I'd take Noragen up on his offer if I were you OP. Despite his nogoodnickery, he's actually a pretty upright feller. He'll steer you straight on how to navigate the crooked path.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Ozzie Udan
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
169
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Posted - 2016.03.08 15:17:35 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Ozzie Udan wrote:If ever Ima Wreckyou ever leaves eve or new order it will be a sad day for us all, especially as I don't have her corpses in my collection That is probably because I ussually dunk miners and not freighters because it is usually not possible for me to dedicate as much time and attention to the game as is needed if you fly with a fleet of people. I just don't see AG failing all the time because since loyal started to dunk Freighters all AGs are somehow in Uedama and left the miners behind. Not only are you failing non stop daily, constantly, you are not even present and don't even try.
just saying i like your postings
But i know what you mean about time, speaking from my point of view, small ganks are very hard to intervene upon, to many of us show and you stop, maybe i should try harder, is it just miners you go for?
And to JacenSolo welcome back to eve and remember you are not along , some of us try to stand up to them and fight the good fight..
How can someone write something about the goons and say a strict no scamming policy and i even heard honour and integrity being used. Now this is a crime fit for c&p I almost choked on my lunch .
A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head.
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Dom Arkaral
Gate Is Red Complaints Department
131
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Posted - 2016.03.08 15:27:13 -
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Ozzie Udan wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Ozzie Udan wrote:If ever Ima Wreckyou ever leaves eve or new order it will be a sad day for us all, especially as I don't have her corpses in my collection That is probably because I ussually dunk miners and not freighters because it is usually not possible for me to dedicate as much time and attention to the game as is needed if you fly with a fleet of people. I just don't see AG failing all the time because since loyal started to dunk Freighters all AGs are somehow in Uedama and left the miners behind. Not only are you failing non stop daily, constantly, you are not even present and don't even try. just saying i like your postings  But i know what you mean about time, speaking from my point of view, small ganks are very hard to intervene upon, to many of us show and you stop, maybe i should try harder, is it just miners you go for? And to JacenSolo welcome back to eve and remember you are not along , some of us try to stand up to them and fight the good fight.. How can someone write something about the goons and say a strict no scamming policy and i even heard honour and integrity being used. Now this is a crime fit for c&p I almost choked on my lunch . The only good fight is James 315's war against bots and bot aspirants Praise James!
Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker
I have no Honer (truly)
Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche!
Salt Harvesting Level CCCXV
Save me from myself. #broadcast4reps when you're in need o7
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Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
722
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Posted - 2016.03.08 16:23:09 -
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Ozzie Udan wrote:How can someone write something about the goons and say a strict no scamming policy and i even heard honour and integrity being used. Now this is a crime fit for c&p I almost choked on my lunch .
If you feel that you have been wronged by members of Goonswarm Federation, feel free to let us know about it. There may be a few black sheep here and there, and once we know who they are, we can kick them out. If you do, however, you better make sure you have actual proof. We will not accept baseless accusations and slander directed at our pilots and member corporations. |

JacenSolo
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2016.03.08 18:53:31 -
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Neuntausend wrote:Ozzie Udan wrote:How can someone write something about the goons and say a strict no scamming policy and i even heard honour and integrity being used. Now this is a crime fit for c&p I almost choked on my lunch . If you feel that you have been wronged by members of Goonswarm Federation, feel free to let us know about it. There may be a few black sheep here and there, and once we know who they are, we can kick them out. If you do, however, you better make sure you have actual proof. We will not accept baseless accusations and slander directed at our pilots and member corporations. I guess the screen shot I provided in game was not sufficient. Id throw it out here but it would just cause more fan fare than anything. If your serious ill send it via PM |

J'Poll
Perkone Caldari State
6382
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Posted - 2016.03.08 19:19:12 -
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OP is a dumbass.
He fell for 2 of the oldest scams in EVE
* Never pay ISK to join a corp * Never have them ship your stuff.
Really, you are a whiny ***** about a perfectly legal game mechanic.
HTFU or leave (personally, I hope the latter from what I've seen so far from you)
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
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J'Poll
Perkone Caldari State
6382
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Posted - 2016.03.08 19:21:47 -
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JacenSolo wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:JacenSolo wrote:BTW i apologize, I dont know you and i shouldn't have called you a liar. I just don't see why you are so passionate about defending thief's. I'm not passionate about defending thieves, I am passionate about correcting people who think if you do something in a video game you must be a bad person. And no, space pixels is not actual loss, it's space pixels. I get it, shoot me, blow my ship up, etc etc.. Thats not bad, thats what the game is designed to do. I was naive and i admitted it. Im not sure what else you want. Im trying to simply vent and let people know what happened and you are just here attacking me for letting people know.
Letting people know     
Seriously,
This scam has been documented and known ever since I started EVE, in 2010.
So, really if you fell for it, it should have been YOU who should have been warned (or would have done some proper research)
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
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Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
727
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Posted - 2016.03.08 19:51:25 -
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JacenSolo wrote:Neuntausend wrote:Ozzie Udan wrote:How can someone write something about the goons and say a strict no scamming policy and i even heard honour and integrity being used. Now this is a crime fit for c&p I almost choked on my lunch . If you feel that you have been wronged by members of Goonswarm Federation, feel free to let us know about it. There may be a few black sheep here and there, and once we know who they are, we can kick them out. If you do, however, you better make sure you have actual proof. We will not accept baseless accusations and slander directed at our pilots and member corporations. I guess the screen shot I provided in game was not sufficient. Id throw it out here but it would just cause more fan fare than anything. If your serious ill send it via PM
I haven't seen any screenshots or other pieces of evidence so far, and the OP does not contain any tangible information. Please don't forget to send chat or audio logs as well. The more info you include, the easier it will be for me to sort things out. |

JacenSolo
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2016.03.08 20:31:32 -
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Neuntausend wrote:JacenSolo wrote:Neuntausend wrote:Ozzie Udan wrote:How can someone write something about the goons and say a strict no scamming policy and i even heard honour and integrity being used. Now this is a crime fit for c&p I almost choked on my lunch . If you feel that you have been wronged by members of Goonswarm Federation, feel free to let us know about it. There may be a few black sheep here and there, and once we know who they are, we can kick them out. If you do, however, you better make sure you have actual proof. We will not accept baseless accusations and slander directed at our pilots and member corporations. I guess the screen shot I provided in game was not sufficient. Id throw it out here but it would just cause more fan fare than anything. If your serious ill send it via PM I haven't seen any screenshots or other pieces of evidence so far, and the OP does not contain any tangible information. Please don't forget to send chat or audio logs as well. The more info you include, the easier it will be for me to sort things out. Read 2 posts back.. I said if you really want information I can PM you but im not flashing it here for more fanfare.. |

Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
728
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Posted - 2016.03.08 20:34:36 -
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I have not gotten a PM either. |

JacenSolo
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2016.03.08 20:36:15 -
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Neuntausend wrote:I have not gotten a PM either. Well who the **** are you. Just **** off im done with the rant anyway. |

J'Poll
Perkone Caldari State
6385
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Posted - 2016.03.08 20:37:50 -
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JacenSolo wrote:Neuntausend wrote:I have not gotten a PM either. Well who the **** are you. Just **** off im done with the rant anyway.
Wow.
You go from let me PM you ingame so I can proof myself to go F yourself, I'm done in less then 5 minutes.
OP must be butthurt very much to be like that.
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
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Dom Arkaral
Gate Is Red Complaints Department
133
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Posted - 2016.03.08 20:38:14 -
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JacenSolo wrote:Neuntausend wrote:JacenSolo wrote:Neuntausend wrote:Ozzie Udan wrote:How can someone write something about the goons and say a strict no scamming policy and i even heard honour and integrity being used. Now this is a crime fit for c&p I almost choked on my lunch . If you feel that you have been wronged by members of Goonswarm Federation, feel free to let us know about it. There may be a few black sheep here and there, and once we know who they are, we can kick them out. If you do, however, you better make sure you have actual proof. We will not accept baseless accusations and slander directed at our pilots and member corporations. I guess the screen shot I provided in game was not sufficient. Id throw it out here but it would just cause more fan fare than anything. If your serious ill send it via PM I haven't seen any screenshots or other pieces of evidence so far, and the OP does not contain any tangible information. Please don't forget to send chat or audio logs as well. The more info you include, the easier it will be for me to sort things out. Read 2 posts back.. I said if you really want information I can PM you but im not flashing it here for more fanfare.. Proof or gtfo Ty
There's a rule for rumor mongering (32 I think) This looks more like a rumor thread than a fact thread
Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker
I have no Honer (truly)
Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche!
Salt Harvesting Level CCCXV
Save me from myself. #broadcast4reps when you're in need o7
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JacenSolo
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2016.03.08 20:41:28 -
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Oh goodness .. That hurts my internet feelings |
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