EVE Search - My Eagle and it's dire dps.

All Channels

Ships and Modules

My Eagle and it's dire dps.

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: [1] 2 3 :: one page
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Marquis Dean Repo Industries	Posted - 2007.02.09 00:16:00 - [1] I was just testing out my shiny Eagle against an alt to see how good it was at extremes of range. Here's my setup briefly: 4 x 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun (Iron M) (Not skilled for T2, will be in 2 weeks) 2 x Assault Launcher II (Flameburst Precision) 1 x Photon Scattering Field II 2 x Supplemental Scanning CPU (not skilled for T2) 2 x Optical Tracking Computer (not skilled for T2) 2 x Magnetic Field Stabiliser II 2 x Tracking Enhancer II My guns: Falloff: 12km Tracking: 0.0429112503639 rad/sec RoF: 4.11 sec Damage Mod: 6.19284197204 x Optimal Range: 159km And the ship: Shield hp: 2606 Em resist: 66.25% Exp resist: 70% Kin resist: 77.5% Therm resist: 85% Targeting range: 176km Scan res: 529.203625019 mm Skills: Med Hybrid IV (will be V soon) Sharpshooter III (will be IV soon) Surgical Strike III (will be IV soon) Motion Prediction III (will be IV soon) Rapid Firing III (will be IV soon) Trajectory Analysis III (will be IV soon) If there's anything else you need to know just ask. Can anyone tell me why my Eagle couldn't pop a stationary Executioner with a 400mm plate in less than 12 volleys? I'm getting 'excellent' hits like 75 and 90. Even though not all my skills are as high as they should be, and not all of my gear is T2, it just doesn't seem very good for a HAC. ------ ------ Originally by: Crag Heyder I'm not talking FPS here, it's SPF.
Salusa VC TunDraGon	Posted - 2007.02.09 00:41:00 - [2] Eagle is a good long range gang ship, good for picking of Inty's and such. Try fitting Blasters for close in work. Never tried myself, but some peeps says it does ok. And you really need all Tech II on it to get the best out of it.
xHalcyonx Amarr EmpiresMod	Posted - 2007.02.09 00:42:00 - [3] I would assume that it's the T2 ammo, Spike specifically, that makes the Eagle useable.
Lakotnik	Posted - 2007.02.09 00:43:00 - [4] Well, skills and t2 help a lot. And that ship, with good setup, pops inties and pods VERY fast. Smile, tomorrow will be worse.
AKULA UrQuan Caldari STK Scientific INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.09 01:17:00 - [5] T2 250s + Spike M You'll notice a huge jump in damage against the same plated Executioner. The Eagle pretty much demands a full t2 fit to be worth a damn. even then in DPS it's only equal to a ferox with the same guns @HAC level 5.
Liu Kaskakka PAK	Posted - 2007.02.09 01:23:00 - [6] /cue flamage for flying a turret HAC with 50k sp in gunnery King Liu is RIGHT!!
Koloch Amarr	Posted - 2007.02.09 01:25:00 - [7] it is a very good HAC the problem is you need all of the supporting skills to lvl 4 or 5 to make it good...all HACs would under perform with the same level of skills.
Koloch Amarr	Posted - 2007.02.09 01:27:00 - [8] Originally by: Liu Kaskakka /cue flamage for flying a turret HAC with 50k sp in gunnery lol
Gryphin Rambaldi Gallente	Posted - 2007.02.09 01:30:00 - [9] Originally by: Liu Kaskakka /cue flamage for flying a turret HAC with 50k sp in gunnery was gonna say, less of the flamage, and more of the Studio Laugh TrackÖ. seriously tho, the Eagle really needs T2 across the board, and top notch gunery skills. It can do really well then, but still just barely as good as the Ferox, as some have pointed out.
Neuromandis EPSILON TEAM Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.02.09 01:49:00 - [10] Edited by: Neuromandis on 09/02/2007 01:46:57 Originally by: Gryphin Rambaldi seriously tho, the Eagle really needs T2 across the board, and top notch gunery skills. It can do really well then, but still just barely as good as the Ferox, as some have pointed out. DPS ok, as good as ferox. But Oh the range and the anti-blaster resists... Gotta love them... Oh, and a suggestion... I'd lose at least one of the tracking mods, the fourth one is not really that effective as tracking computers are nerfed together with tracking enhancers.
Tunajuice Convergent Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.09 01:50:00 - [11] Well, it does similar damage to a ferox and can have a similar tank to a ferox..but a ferox hits at around 80km, and an eagle at 180-200km.. depending how crazy you go with rigs etc.
AKULA UrQuan Caldari STK Scientific INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.09 01:56:00 - [12] 80? I got one that's good for 140km with the current nerfed spike M ammo. It was good out to 155km in RMR.
j0sephine Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.02.09 02:47:00 - [13] "Can anyone tell me why my Eagle couldn't pop a stationary Executioner with a 400mm plate in less than 12 volleys?" Iron ammo, no 3rd damage mod, no tech 2 turret damage bonus, low base skills. It all adds up, unfortunately.
Marquis Dean Repo Industries	Posted - 2007.02.09 03:12:00 - [14] Can anyone suggest some rigs then, while we're here? Assume it is T2 fitted and all the skills are where they need to be. I was thinking of boosting the RoF/damage of the hybrids, but it'll stack with the MagStabs, or of doing something to improve the shield but then I get a larger sig radius and no one wants that. Any ideas? ------ ------ Originally by: Crag Heyder I'm not talking FPS here, it's SPF.
Marquis Dean Repo Industries	Posted - 2007.02.09 03:13:00 - [15] Originally by: Liu Kaskakka /cue flamage for flying a turret HAC with 50k sp in gunnery 1.6 million actually. But thanks. ------ ------ Originally by: Crag Heyder I'm not talking FPS here, it's SPF.
Sadist Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.02.09 03:31:00 - [16] Originally by: Marquis Dean Can anyone suggest some rigs then, while we're here? Assume it is T2 fitted and all the skills are where they need to be. I was thinking of boosting the RoF/damage of the hybrids, but it'll stack with the MagStabs, or of doing something to improve the shield but then I get a larger sig radius and no one wants that. Any ideas? I would suggest tracking, but that stacks with tracking comps/enhancers. Other than that your only option is for larger shield capacity (if there is a rig for that, i forget) imo. Not much point in weapon rigs atm, since it's much more efficient to stick 2 dmg mods on most ships. òòòòòòòòòòòò VIP member of the [23] Quote: - Numbers alone do not win a battle - No, but I bet they help.
Liu Kaskakka PAK	Posted - 2007.02.09 08:50:00 - [17] Originally by: Marquis Dean Originally by: Liu Kaskakka /cue flamage for flying a turret HAC with 50k sp in gunnery 1.6 million actually. But thanks. King Liu is RIGHT!!
Masochistic Cannibal Amarr The Ring of Fire	Posted - 2007.02.09 08:58:00 - [18] Originally by: Marquis Dean Originally by: Liu Kaskakka /cue flamage for flying a turret HAC with 50k sp in gunnery 1.6 million actually. But thanks. Rofl You asked why you where doing weaksauce damage, theres your answer ! Though the Eagle will never have 'good' dps it's the only cruiser capable of hitting at 150km afaik. Cannibal I eat babies ! [Hauling services available~ Contact ingame]
ZelRox Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.02.09 09:47:00 - [19] Originally by: Masochistic Cannibal Originally by: Marquis Dean Originally by: Liu Kaskakka /cue flamage for flying a turret HAC with 50k sp in gunnery 1.6 million actually. But thanks. Rofl You asked why you where doing weaksauce damage, theres your answer ! Though the Eagle will never have 'good' dps it's the only cruiser capable of hitting at 150km afaik. Cannibal 150 ? try 220 + falloff :) My optimal with spike is 220, that with hac 5. Could be even more if i dropped mwd and added another tracking computer. Damage is pretty decent too. With 10 times as much Sp in gunnery ---------------------- BiH 4tw
enymphia Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.09 10:24:00 - [20] tech1 guns suck tech2 guns rule! get some sp in gunnery and the hac-skill at least to 4 and by the way, the eagle wasnt designed to be a dmgdealer, its just a bigger harpy :) Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Petwraith ([email protected])
Majutsu Caldari	Posted - 2007.02.09 11:41:00 - [21] Originally by: Marquis Dean Originally by: Liu Kaskakka /cue flamage for flying a turret HAC with 50k sp in gunnery 1.6 million actually. But thanks. 1 million of that being in weapons upgrades and advanced weapons upgrades still leaves you with the same problem. You really, really need much better gunnery skills.
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2007.02.09 18:05:00 - [22] Originally by: Koloch it is a very good HAC the problem is you need all of the supporting skills to lvl 4 or 5 to make it good...all HACs would under perform with the same level of skills. It underpreforms with surgical strike 5 rapid fire 5 gunnery 5 sharpshooter 5 trajectory analisis 4 controlled burst 4 med hybrid spec 4
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2007.02.09 18:08:00 - [23] Originally by: enymphia tech1 guns suck tech2 guns rule! get some sp in gunnery and the hac-skill at least to 4 and by the way, the eagle wasnt designed to be a dmgdealer, its just a bigger harpy :) It fails, becuase it is not nearly as agile as a harpy, and in the days of Battlships going faster than a lot of intercepters, you need the time to alighn.
Blitzkrieg Lynx Frontier Inc. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.09 18:36:00 - [24] Hence why it is a 80mil HAC. Now it would be funny-actually embarrassing-to compare Eagle dps w/ Munin arty
Isonkon Serikain Gallente Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.09 19:22:00 - [25] Originally by: Marquis Dean Originally by: Liu Kaskakka /cue flamage for flying a turret HAC with 50k sp in gunnery 1.6 million actually. But thanks. My advice to you is to fly a moa until you can use all the t2 trimmings on your eagle. You'll learn how to fly the ship, and it won't be as bad when you lose it. At this point you're not skilled enough for a HAC. Don't blame the ship for the poor performance, its you. Eagles are nasty snipers, but they really need all the t2 to come into this role properly. And also about 2-3 times the sp in gunnery that you have... Pity the fool
Ishmael Hansen No Quarter. C0VEN	Posted - 2007.02.09 19:30:00 - [26] It will always do crappy damage and never kill anything that isn't tackled. Even with good gunnery skills, with luck it can insta pop shuttles and pods (if you get a wrecking). As I usually say you can use it to tickle enemies an 200km + range, now if you get a group of friends in a gang all in eagles, that will make a dent in whatever comes.
Isonkon Serikain Gallente Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.09 19:34:00 - [27] Originally by: Blitzkrieg Hence why it is a 80mil HAC. Now it would be funny-actually embarrassing-to compare Eagle dps w/ Munin arty arty muninn is ok, I dont know what the dps is on an eagle cause I dont fly them, but I can tell you that artis are the weakest dps guns in game. After the muninn's bonus, they are alright. They'll never get the range of an eagle tho... Arti muninn is not very useful past 100km. Pity the fool
Isonkon Serikain Gallente Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.09 19:35:00 - [28] Originally by: Ishmael Hansen It will always do crappy damage and never kill anything that isn't tackled. Even with good gunnery skills, with luck it can insta pop shuttles and pods (if you get a wrecking). As I usually say you can use it to tickle enemies an 200km + range, now if you get a group of friends in a gang all in eagles, that will make a dent in whatever comes. Zelrox, can you confirm that? i've been hit hard by eagles before... Pity the fool
j0sephine Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.02.09 20:07:00 - [29] Edited by: j0sephine on 09/02/2007 20:04:17 "Zelrox, can you confirm that? i've been hit hard by eagles before..." Raw damage of spike ammo fired from 250mm rail II put on typical sniping Eagle is ~175 hp... so that's ~700 hp every 4 seconds or less, minus resistances, give or add the change from light hits or well aimed shots. It isn't much compared to close range damage-oriented HACs, but given the range it's fired from and hp of typical target it's quite nice.
Sorja E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.02.09 20:21:00 - [30] In fact, no. Your Eagle won't go from craptastic to spectacular with maxed skills. My Eagles collect dust in hangars and they now sell for 80 millions which means I should have sold them when they still were around 140 (while most other HACs were above 200). I've flown the Eagle at various ranges and never was impressed. I've been attacked in an inty while stuck in bubbles by Eagles and left with 100% armor. Since Kali, they are not worth flying if not with blasters (and being one of the worst close range HACs). They'll probably get a fifth turret at the same time as the Moa, when the Ferox gets it's 6th turret. Soon (tm). ____________________ A gentleman is someone who can play the bagpipe, but who does not.

Pages: [1] 2 3 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.