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Neuntausend
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.04.04 16:49:42 -
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Aiwha wrote:We got paid to stop fighting each other and come **** on you. Which we gladly took because we both despise your leadership. After we roll you we'll probably get back to slapping each other silly. Again, this all comes down to you getting dogpiled because your coalitions diplomacy is absolute ****.
Our diplomacy isn't any more **** than some of your bigger "allies". The main difference is that they gave up their territories last year without even trying to defend it once in Aegis sov, because like us, they already knew the new system would be kind of terrible, and unlike us they don't have the perseverance to even try. |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
879
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Posted - 2016.04.04 18:33:43 -
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No, they just don't want to put in effort to hold space. They clearly wanted to hold space for years before, otherwise they wouldn't have. |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
880
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Posted - 2016.04.04 20:10:31 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:TLDR
ProviBloc 15K dudes 1 Region, successful defense vs 40K man coalition
CFC 40K dudes 8 Regions, abysmal failure vs 50K man coalition
I'd go out on a limb and say ProviBloc wouldn't have been able to defend had we seriously wanted to invest more than a couple of days and actually claim it, which we didn't (why would we want to take a region at the other end of the cluster after Phoebe).
Also, the Imperium has in no way abysmally failed yet, so I'd recommend waiting with that statement until it has actually happened.
Compared to the Providence campaign, this war is already going much more slowly after having gone on for much longer, and it will slow down even more the more space we lose.
That aside, though, I do agree to a certain level. ADMs in some parts have not exactly been stellar when the storm hit. Deklein has a lot of sixes, and very few systems lower than 4, simply because it's being used by a 17k strong alliance.
So yes, having a 3k Alliance sitting on a regions worth of systems is simply too little people to properly occupy and defend it. |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.04.04 20:28:29 -
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I agree, the situation has changed. But cut the crap about the imperium getting expelled for when you've actually managed to do it, will you? This war is far from over. |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.04.04 21:46:51 -
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Zappity wrote:Neuntausend wrote:I agree, the situation has changed. But cut the crap about the imperium getting expelled for when you've actually managed to do it, will you? This war is far from over. By this logic, the Imperium equals goonswarm. Because whilst you are still holding Deklein you are certainly not still holding Vale, Tribute, Fade etc. But I guess those weren't held by GSF so they don't count.
The Imperium has lost quite a lot of space, this is true. I just don't consider that an abysmal failure in the face of a force superior in numbers and grr. In a war like this, space will be lost. It would be an abysmal failure for the attacking side were it not so. Don't think in individual alliances, because that's not what we are - the Imperium is a coalition and should be seen as one. As long as at least one Imperium alliance still holds space, all members of the Imperium will have a place to stay.
edit: We also still hold most of the regions you listed. They certainly are on fire, but you have not taken them just yet. |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.04.04 22:04:58 -
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Rain6637 wrote:Andski wrote:I'm 99% confident you couldn't name anyone in Imperium leadership beyond The Mittani and Sion Ha trick question it's ALL mittens and Sion.
I find this guy with the hat disturbing. He's a leader, right? |
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