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Naj Panora Diamond Dust. 30	Posted - 2016.03.12 00:03:18 - [1] - Quote Was thinking today about the practice of miner bumping and thought a slight revision to the rule might be in order. Allow players to bump miners only if they are in a player run corp so miners would have recourse against the bumper. There really shouldn't be any activity in Eve that doesn't have counter play and a character in an NPC corp bumping ships is just that an aggressive activity that has no counter play. Sorry if this is the wrong place feel free to move it if it is.
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 2363	Posted - 2016.03.12 01:00:07 - [2] - Quote Or you could just purchase a mining permit as it is required by the Code in New Order territory (Highsec). After all they are only 10mil ISK and valid for a full year! the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Naj Panora Diamond Dust. 30	Posted - 2016.03.12 01:09:03 - [3] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Or you could just purchase a mining permit as it is required by the Code in New Order territory (Highsec). After all they are only 10mil ISK and valid for a full year! Doesn't look like this has anything to do with you seeing as you are in a player corp but thanks for stopping by.
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 3143	Posted - 2016.03.12 01:14:59 - [4] - Quote There are counter plays, but nothing too easy/guaranteed. Keep moving rather than being afk, put a prop mod on a skiff or hide amongst the rocks such that there is no clear path for the bumper to get a run up. Ive never had trouble with bumpers except when i was afk. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided" Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
Danika Princip GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 4289	Posted - 2016.03.12 01:49:59 - [5] - Quote Sure, but only if you also require that anyone mining outside of a newbie starter system is also in a player corp.
Naj Panora Diamond Dust. 30	Posted - 2016.03.12 01:58:45 - [6] - Quote Danika Princip wrote: Sure, but only if you also require that anyone mining outside of a newbie starter system is also in a player corp. It's easy to gank barges as is and a barge isn't committing an aggressive action against you.
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 2364	Posted - 2016.03.12 02:01:14 - [7] - Quote Naj Panora wrote: Danika Princip wrote: Sure, but only if you also require that anyone mining outside of a newbie starter system is also in a player corp. It's easy to gank barges as is and a barge isn't committing an aggressive action against you. Why don't you gank the bumper then? the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Legion 17510	Posted - 2016.03.12 02:04:50 - [8] - Quote Stick a prop mod on your barge.
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 14680	Posted - 2016.03.12 03:40:58 - [9] - Quote so if i were to come bump you would you wardec me? Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Kyra Lee Ixian Machines TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance 66	Posted - 2016.03.12 04:01:21 - [10] - Quote There is plenty of counter play. Higgs Anchor, orbit some rocks to keep moving, hide in the rocks so that the bumper can't get a clear line to you, dock up when a bumper comes in system, go where there are no bumpers, and lastly leave highsec. There are probably more things you could do that I and others haven't mentioned. Making more arbitrary space magic rules is never a good fix to any problem.

Iain Cariaba 2789	Posted - 2016.03.12 06:02:38 - [11] - Quote Kyra Lee wrote: There is plenty of counter play. Higgs Anchor, orbit some rocks to keep moving, hide in the rocks so that the bumper can't get a clear line to you, dock up when a bumper comes in system, go where there are no bumpers, and lastly leave highsec. There are probably more things you could do that I and others haven't mentioned. Making more arbitrary space magic rules is never a good fix to any problem. You're forgetting the most useful counter. If you simply ******* pay attention to the game, you don't have to worry about bumpers and gankers. Regardless, redundant thread being redundant and all, reported for redundancy. EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid. I couldn't have said it better. Hello, Mr Carebear. Would you like some cheese with that whine?
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 2243	Posted - 2016.03.12 06:23:07 - [12] - Quote Naj Panora wrote: Was thinking today about the practice of miner bumping and thought a slight revision to the rule might be in order. Allow players to bump miners only if they are in a player run corp so miners would have recourse against the bumper. There really shouldn't be any activity in Eve that doesn't have counter play and a character in an NPC corp bumping ships is just that an aggressive activity that has no counter play. Sorry if this is the wrong place feel free to move it if it is. Fozzie already gave you that counter play when he buffed the speed and agility of the Procurer and the Skiff. If fit with a prop mod and moving they are highly resistant to bumping. Just orbit something. Otherwise, just gank them as was said above. CONCORD is not there to protect them, but rather just add a cost to aggression. Depending what ships they are using and what you gank with, you might even find it cheaper than a wardec.
Danika Princip GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 4289	Posted - 2016.03.12 11:05:02 - [13] - Quote Naj Panora wrote: Danika Princip wrote: Sure, but only if you also require that anyone mining outside of a newbie starter system is also in a player corp. It's easy to gank barges as is and a barge isn't committing an aggressive action against you. They're my industrial competition, but I can't do anything about them while they hide in NPC corps. Nerf NPC corp mining alts.
Lugh Crow-Slave 1705	Posted - 2016.03.12 21:46:48 - [14] - Quote Danika Princip wrote: Naj Panora wrote: Danika Princip wrote: Sure, but only if you also require that anyone mining outside of a newbie starter system is also in a player corp. It's easy to gank barges as is and a barge isn't committing an aggressive action against you. They're my industrial competition, but I can't do anything about them while they hide in NPC corps. Nerf NPC corp mining alts. This I'm done with the one man mining fleets clearing ice belts in 10 minutes at least let me Dec them so I can kill their freighter Citadel worm hole tax
admiral root Red Galaxy 3672	Posted - 2016.03.12 22:27:57 - [15] - Quote Naj Panora wrote: There really shouldn't be any activity in Eve that doesn't have counter play Excellent, then bumping doesn't need any changes. Also, one more nerf, amirite? No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 11227	Posted - 2016.03.13 12:29:44 - [16] - Quote Naj Panora wrote: Danika Princip wrote: Sure, but only if you also require that anyone mining outside of a newbie starter system is also in a player corp. It's easy to gank barges as is and a barge isn't committing an aggressive action against you. The barges are ***** raping the asteroid belts, causing wanton environmental destruction. I'd call that a pretty ***** aggressive action, you monster! Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log


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