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Helox Gallente Demonic Retribution Pure.	Posted - 2007.02.10 22:13:00 - [1] First, I do not need t20 to be fired to keep enjoying the game. But I do not understand why he isn't. I have been working as a system administrator for the past 7 years, and I cannot begin to think of what would happen to me if I were ever to abuse the systems that are trusted to me. It's not CCP that I blame, more compagnies have empoyees they cannot miss, but I cannot believe that t20 himself wants to keep this job. Forgiveness is fine, but by his action he has betrayed the customers as well as his collegues. Other people have pointed out that removing the BPO's is a good way to deal with this. It's unbelievable that CCP thinks this will solve their problem. Right now there is a giant breach in convidance between CCP and their customers, and they better figure something better out to fix it. -- the above is my personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect that of the little voices in my head
Helox Gallente Demonic Retribution Pure.	Posted - 2007.02.11 00:19:00 - [2] I'm growing more and more frustrated with the "awh it's not a biggie" mentality of CCP. I mean, I know there are people screaming for BOB blood, but tbh, I couldn't care less about them. Apart from beeing a well organized alliance, they took whatever they could get their hands on. Tbh, I can't blame them. But ffs CCP! At least come out with it. Not like this, with just 2 crappy devblogs and a thread in a forum that noone ever read. -- the above is my personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect that of the little voices in my head -- http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=473335The truth
Helox Gallente Demonic Retribution Pure.	Posted - 2007.02.11 01:07:00 - [3] Originally by: Shameless Avenger To all ppl saying "I have that T2 BPO and is not good"... Can I have your T2 BPO? Can I just get the Sabre BPO? -- the above is my personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect that of the little voices in my head -- READ!
Helox Gallente Demonic Retribution Pure.	Posted - 2007.02.11 01:48:00 - [4] Originally by: Halkin whats done is done, its time to move on for everyone. i'm not particularly happy about it but thats it, finished. how long can you go on about the injustice of it all? get back to what we all know and love which is playing the game. I call BS. For me it's not the fact that it happened. It's they way that CCP tried to keep it silent, and denied any existence of it until hard evidence was provided. And now they are doing damage control. Instead of some decent communication with us (the players) this whole story gets demoted to a subforum noone ever reads. I think this entire affair might show us how CCP is viewing their customers. And right now, I don't feel they appriciate them. At all. -- the above is my personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect that of the little voices in my head -- READ!
Helox Gallente Demonic Retribution Pure.	Posted - 2007.02.11 01:52:00 - [5] Originally by: The Armin Those of you wanting t20's head should consider the following. You have set the jobs of your friends and coworkers in danger, you have seriously damaged your companys rep, if CCP looses subscriptions over this (like many).. well imagine the consequences. Isn't it punishment enough to have to clock in at work at 7 or 8 every morning and look into the eyes of the very ppl who's job you've set in danger ? Hell no. Tbh, if I where him, I'd resign now, and make it known to the community. On the other hand, CCP is covering his ass, so thats no longer nessecary. -- the above is my personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect that of the little voices in my head -- READ!
Helox Gallente Demonic Retribution Pure.	Posted - 2007.02.11 01:57:00 - [6] Originally by: Halkin Originally by: Helox Originally by: Halkin whats done is done, its time to move on for everyone. i'm not particularly happy about it but thats it, finished. how long can you go on about the injustice of it all? get back to what we all know and love which is playing the game. I call BS. For me it's not the fact that it happened. It's they way that CCP tried to keep it silent, and denied any existence of it until hard evidence was provided. And now they are doing damage control. Instead of some decent communication with us (the players) this whole story gets demoted to a subforum noone ever reads. I think this entire affair might show us how CCP is viewing their customers. And right now, I don't feel they appriciate them. At all. they were trying to protect their reputation probably, if they tried to cover it up. normally a natural response from a person. as is being tempted by riches on offer. lets witch hunt this to the max then, lets demand t20 resigns from CCP, gives up his income and publicly gets flogged outside CCP's HQ. please. get a life you sad excuse for an individual and play the game (oh noes! its a game!) It might be a game, but since when is that an excuse for someone that works on it to drop all intergrity? Or for a compagny to support him in that? -- the above is my personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect that of the little voices in my head -- READ!
Helox Gallente Demonic Retribution Pure.	Posted - 2007.02.11 14:45:00 - [7] Originally by: Counterparty The devs are not bishops or prophets or professional athletes. So they don't have to have integrity? Because that is I think Lucre is trying to point out. If anyone ABUSES the power that they got when they accepted a certain position, would that be ok in a game opposed to reallive? I used to work at a bank, would it be ok for me to "spawn" cash in my account? Because that wouldn't be "real" money? -- the above is my personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect that of the little voices in my head -- READ!
Helox Gallente Demonic Retribution Pure.	Posted - 2007.02.11 20:45:00 - [8] Originally by: Damon Ra Edited by: Damon Ra on 11/02/2007 20:30:32 Originally by: Elve Sorrow One last question, before i give this thread a rest. Originally by: Hellmar As of the beginning of January this year, we have been building up a special institution within our company similar to the Internal Affairs divisions of law enforcement agencies. You found out about a Dev cheating, abusing game mechanics for his own advantage in July last year, yet not acted untill January this year? Why? Simple. CCP was on thr ropes already from a manpower perspective last summer, and couldn't afford to lose one of their key Devs and.or create this kind of player response. There was an upcoming merjer and the China server, and Dragon code were all just coming together. Far easier and cheaper to sweep it under the mat and hope no one found out. Now here we are... Dunno, but I believe t20 was a webdeveloper and just recently was promoted to a junior game dev? (Way to punish him btw) There we go! -- the above is my personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect that of the little voices in my head -- READ!
Helox Gallente Demonic Retribution Pure.	Posted - 2007.02.12 08:19:00 - [9] Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Originally by: MrDisposable Its monday 8:09 a.m. in iceland as of your posting. Is there anything you are ever right about? Well its still sunday were im at And everyone in iceland is just now trudging into the office to start the daily grind and try to put together a finalized responce.. think you would have it all ready at opening time on the first day after the weekend? Sheese impatient people.. Let's face it, something of this magnitude (almost 100 pages in one thread after 3 days?) might be a reason to work on the weekend... -- the above is my personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect that of the little voices in my head -- READ!
Helox Gallente Demonic Retribution Pure.	Posted - 2007.02.12 09:22:00 - [10] Originally by: Templer Relleg Time is ticking Kieron. You still havent answered any of our important questions, only the ones that doesnt matter. Its like digging your own grave. I cant see why it should be so hard to answer our questions. If you arent covering up for something, you should be able to answer whatever we would ask. We are close to 3000 posts now, and reaching 100 pages(Which breaks the thread?), filled with unhappy people. Dont let us down Tick Tock. A bit harsh, but yeah, I'd expect SOME sort of statement by now... -- the above is my personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect that of the little voices in my head -- READ!

Helox Gallente Demonic Retribution Pure.	Posted - 2007.02.12 09:40:00 - [11] Originally by: Xendie and lets discuss bans abit and reasons for them. kug apparently got all his 5 accounts permabanned for showing ppl T20's dirty ass in public. heres the thing though, T20 had a website at CCP where his firstname was displayed in public with the email adress that kug posted on his forums. doesnt that mean that the info he posted was already available to the public?, if so why ban? btw since kug havent been judged by any court of law for breaking any law kug cannot be banned for that as by the eula states something like "you are not allowed to break any laws yadda-yadda", doesnt that mean that CCP needs to know by The guys hacks forums... Even though he is to be recommended for publishing this, he first tried to blackmail both BoD and CCP. Perma ban is too good for him afaic. -- the above is my personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect that of the little voices in my head -- READ!
Helox Gallente Demonic Retribution Pure.	Posted - 2007.02.12 10:32:00 - [12] Originally by: Rutefly T%hatll teach me to read all posts b4 posting 8) So this guy haxxed forums by means to investigate, to put it to his defense. Well not nice but could be excused to some extend. Blackmailing ? OMG! Someone investigate that part. Thats straight to the banzor . Sigh. He allready has been permabanned... -- the above is my personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect that of the little voices in my head -- READ!
Helox Gallente Demonic Retribution Pure.	Posted - 2007.02.12 12:07:00 - [13] Originally by: Samuel Freedom And so the seemingly unstopable juggernaut continues....... 100 pages plus and still alot of unanswered questions, alot and very few answered, I can wait I bet they use this thread to let people blow off steam. Once this slows down the thread will be locked and later on deleted. Bussiness as usual will ensue... -- the above is my personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect that of the little voices in my head -- READ!
Helox Gallente Demonic Retribution Pure.	Posted - 2007.02.12 12:55:00 - [14] Originally by: Mecinia Lua Perhaps even offer an amnesty period for Devs and GMs to come forward at this point and reveal improper actions they have done. Correct any such actions to the best of the ability of the software and developers. This is actually a VERY good idea. -- the above is my personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect that of the little voices in my head -- READ!
Helox Gallente Demonic Retribution Pure.	Posted - 2007.02.12 15:07:00 - [15] Originally by: Diurpaneus Edited by: Diurpaneus on 12/02/2007 14:59:26I'm 31 maried(no kids tough) but TRUST me eaven if my WIFE would cheat on my I woudnt be SO UPSET like now! WTF? Are you sure? -- the above is my personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect that of the little voices in my head -- READ!

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