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Posted - 2007.02.09 20:49:00 -
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the bpo returns is a start.
but the money made from that which must be billions. will this be returned. i very much doubt it. so the damage has been done.
what is keiron answer to this question
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Posted - 2007.02.09 20:56:00 -
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it has now been proved that BOB are cheaters, not all but the leaders knew about this.
the CEOS of these corps need to held to account. So now everything bob has achieved is so devalued i would be ashamed to be in said alliance.
So what is going to be done on this
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Posted - 2007.02.09 21:01:00 -
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Edited by: aggro on 09/02/2007 20:58:31 why have you not banned the people who profited from this.
you ban the guy who exposed this.
SORRY CCP YOU HAVE MADE THE WRONG DECISION ON THIS ONE
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Posted - 2007.02.09 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 09/02/2007 21:01:24 Sad to see how human nature can sometimes let us do wrong stuff, putting your job on the line for a stupid little advantage in a damn game ffs :(
On those people going: "OMG! Super much billions of ISK profits!"...
Sabre BPO is the only one of those that makes a decent profit, but it nowhere near the likes of Ballistic Control II, Cerberus, Nighthawk, etc.
You might be talking maybe 400m / week tops, maybe a lot to a goon, but nothing in the larger scale of things. Yes, BDCI owns a Sabre BPO.
these bpos are the ones that have been declared and can bet many more have found there way into said alliances.
Money is only part of the issue, the other part is the ceo and directors of coprp knowing and excepting the tainted bpos. this is what needs to be asked.
Winning at all cost which include hax,gms knowledge etc is so sad in this great game. I feel sorry for people willing to go down this road.
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Posted - 2007.02.09 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: b0xor This is bull****!
Those BPOs are crap. No one would risk their job over some crappy ammo BPOs.
This is nothing but a smokescreen to try and cover up something bigger.
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Posted - 2007.02.09 23:08:00 -
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Please remain constructive - Serathu ([email protected])
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Posted - 2007.02.09 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 09/02/2007 23:01:29 Your leaders are liars and cheaters of the highest magnitude - you've asked us how we can follow Remedial - for all his faults, he's never, ever, come close to what your leaders have done. How can you follow them, after all of this? You called Goonfleet the cancer of EVE ; it is my pleasure to hand the title back to you.
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very good quote. remedial is not my favourite character but you are so much better than the leaders in bob who knowly cheat
bobs new names BOD CHEATS HAXERS
just add to the list
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Posted - 2007.02.10 00:09:00 -
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THE BIG QUESTION WHERE DO CCP GO FROM HERE
1. All cheaters like t20 need to be banned as stated in ther own policies.BANNED 2. Other people like sir molle who knowly knew about bpos etc BANNED 3. Investigate other dev misconducts ie Why is one scouting poses before a bob war dec INVESTAGATE 4.A third party should conduct their own internal investigation. INVESTIGATE 5.All ill gotten gains from bpo be given back DONE NOW 6.ccp publically state they have a problem with devs cheating but will do all they can to resolve the issue no matter where it leads. DONE NOW
CCP you need to act quick to stop this cancer which your dev cheaters have caused before it ruins this great game.
HARD DECISIONs NEED TO BE MADE TO STOP THE ROT
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Posted - 2007.02.10 01:32:00 -
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Edited by: aggro on 10/02/2007 01:31:32 Can we have an official statement from bob on all this.
Who knew what was going on etc. What they plan to do. Apologise to all of eve over there actions
Those that took the poison chalice owe it to the honest members in BOB to try and restore the pride they once had in there alliance.
If this does not happen BOB will become a dirty word. the words cheat,hax,exploits will follow them everywhere
Anyone who lose a ship to a bob gang will always wonder if there was something underhand going on. Also if you kill a bob guy. Will he get his ship back using petitions or just see it back in his hanger when he docks up.
The silence from BOB directors etc is deafening
  
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Posted - 2007.02.10 11:23:00 -
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so next time someone account is banned for a minor infrigement of the eula.
I think a law suit against ccp could happen. people pay money for this game and fraud and corruption is rife it seems.
ccp have not banned people for major infridgements of the EULA, so why are paying customers so poorly treated.
ccp better have some very good lawyers
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Posted - 2007.02.10 20:16:00 -
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Why are the Eula violation of bob directors treated differantly to any other player.
This whole thing stinks to high heaven of favouritism,double standards and coverups.
CCP get you act togeather and fast before this great game goes down the plughole.
This is a major crises and what do you ccp do, take the weekend off. If i owned a company and had they type of stuff going on. i would make all staff come in and sort this out or risk losing there job.
But typical ccp they waited 6 month to reveal there coverup, so what is another 2 days. This speaks volumes of how seriously they are taking this.
Dont expect any truthful answers soon.
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Posted - 2007.02.10 22:15:00 -
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This is a question I had to do some research to get. Until reading the community response thread, I had not heard of a cynonet network and had to ask around to get some answers. As for the question itself...
sorry kieron please tell me you dont believe the cr*p you are writing.
If it is true what you wrote then you are so out of touch with the game you might as well be playing WOW.
     Aggro hands kieron a spade to dig himself and ccp a bit deeper hole.
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Posted - 2007.02.11 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 11/02/2007 10:08:42 Right, I have read every post on this this subject, and I have this to say:
Firstly, am am honestly shocked that there was any truth to these allegations, and disappointed. You lot probably won't believe me, but frankly I could care less.
Secondly, I trust CCP have taken whatever action they think appropriate. It may not be enough for some, but calling for more isn't really going to change anything. IMHO T20 should have been sacked when this was orginally discovered, but that didn't happen for whatever reason. I can live with that.
Any BoB characters who knowingly took advantage of T20 should be punished as appropriate.
Kuwhateverhisname is should remain banned. If he had just outed all this as some sort of service to the community, that would have been one thing (although there is really no excuse for airing all this in public anyway), but that isn't the case, is it? He tried to use this information for personal gain, revealing bit and peices in exchange for ingame isk, whilst trying to get BoB and CCP to cough up to silence him. He is no hero.
If he had done the "right thing", all of this could have been resolved privately, as such matters should. Harming the game in order to forward his own agenda has achieved nothing, and it never can.
I can't even see how you people can defend him. His actions are not "for the greater good", they were for his own good. What next, a webpage listing ever infraction against every player, ever? (Not that it would affect me, I am a good boy in-game .. although the forums do let me down a little) 
Do I believe that BoB are where they are because of T20? Honestly, no.
Frankly, if the BPO's go back on the lottery there is a good chance they will end up back in BoB's hands anyway. We have bought up (for huge amounts of perfectly legally earned ISK) a vast array of blueprints, and we would probably be able to buy up these.
People want to think the worst of BoB, and I am cool with that. We have purposely fostered an image of being Eve's "bad guys", and it has worked well for us. We enjoy being the bad guys. That does not, however, mean supporting cheating.
My reputation in Eve is, I think, pretty solid. I may be in BoB, but I am not BoB. I support BoB, but I will never condone cheating.
I haven't been able to bring myself to log on since this news came out. Not out of shame, because I have nothing to be ashamed about, but more just to let the whole thing sink in.
I feel for CCP, I feel for BoB, and I feel for the community.
This whole affair could have been handled in a much better way, but alas we are where we are.
What now?
Do we, as CCP suggest, try to put this behind us and move on; or do we do all we can to risk the future of this game?
I have invested a lot in Eve, and I really don't want to see it die, so what now?
The ultimate future of Eve is in the hands of the community, you, me, everyone.
It is time to act like the mature individuals we all are, and not the mob we have become.
nice post
i do feel sorry for the bob grunts{no disrespect intended}. they have been let down by there superiors. they are owed a huge PUBLIC apology from their bosses. This does not seem forthcoming so it would seem that they do not care for there members who now have to carry with them the stigma of cheaters.
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